Boss GT10 users thread

[j3yps]

ako din wait lang magopen bank para makapagtransfer.. text nalang kita sir j3yps kapag nahulog ko na sa acct mo.. thanks!

while wala pa ung dvd tanong ko lang kung anong pinakabasic na settings na dapat gawin kapag ikakabit mo ung GT10 sa amp? Like kung direct lang sya sa guitar input ng amp at hindi na papadaanin sa fx loop.. in general po like kahit anong brand na amp ano dapat tandaan gawin na settings.. balak ko kasi itry dalhin dun sa jam namin kaso di ko naman alam kalikutin kaya might as well ask for advice na lang muna.. thanks!

For me, set your GT-10's tone first then after that plug it in your amp's input, then adjust the amp to your own liking...

[rogeryu]

If you're going to use just the GT10 COSM preamp go with AMP return
Guitar>GT10>Amp return.
so you will not stack both the COSM preamp and AMP preamp character sound. Just add some cab and mic sim adjustment and set GT to line out/device. you may add tone modify and post eq to not make it sound boxy. Gagamitin mo lng yong Real AMP as active speaker if you get what i mean.

[champz]

If you're going to use just the GT10 COSM preamp go with AMP return
Guitar>GT10>Amp return.
so you will not stack both the COSM preamp and AMP preamp character sound. Just add some cab and mic sim adjustment and set GT to line out/device. you may add tone modify and post eq to not make it sound boxy. Gagamitin mo lng yong Real AMP as active speaker if you get what i mean.

edit lang sir roger.. binasa ko ung manual just now.. and eto pagkaintindi ko pagrerekta lang ako sa input ng amp (Guitar-> Amp input) kailangan ko iset yung "output select nya"? depende dun sa type ng amp na gagamitin ko? Like pag JC120 select JC120 , pagcombo select Combo? Kakabit po kasi ako sa peavey bandit 112 sa lunes pero sa gig na hindi ko alam kung anong brand ng amp.. straight connection lang po gagawin ko wala pa kasi ako alam sa 4cm.. pagnaset ko na po ba ung OUTPUT SELECT ok na sya? UNg Amp na talaga ang active speaker ko? IM really lost here  sa bawat patch din po ba langan ko iselect lagi ung output select pagkakabit ako sa amp or automatic na un? Hay.. baka kasi biglang magbago ang tunog gagamit pa naman ako ng clean at mejo heavy gain na patch.. pero gagamitin ko lang po ung Preset na ng GT para hindi na ako syado mahirapan.. ang gusto ko lang po eh kung ano ung tunog nung preset patch sya ring maririnig ko dun sa amp.. paulit ulit ata ako .. hehe.. sana mahelp nyo ko lapit na kasi un sa 19 na.. wait lang ako sa advice nyo.. thanks!


sir di ko gets... hehe.. pano un .. san kakalikutin un... nako langan ko talaga ng tutorial.. haha.. thanks sir roger.. pls guide mo naman ako sa pagset wala talaga ako idea.. hehe.. thanks ule..

[rogeryu]

Yes champz,
Guitar>GT10>AMP return not AMP input. Kung meron AMP return yon Physical AMP ang gagamitin mo and then set the physical AMP return of the AMP return level. Your GT10 panel OUTPUT KNOB will be then you master volume or level. No need to use the 4CM or AMP send ng physical AMP just the Physical AMP RETURN. Then use GT10 system set to the last option line/device out not STACK or COMBO. Kc Line OUT optin will only activate the cab sim. Your just gonna need two(2) cables. The idea is any guitar amp has two stage, first is the PREAMP stage second is the AMPLIFIER stage then going out to it's speaker. If you use the AMP input your be going into the physical AMP PREAMP. This set up which i'm recommeding is you're just going to use the AMPLIFIER stage and the speaker kaya I say parang active speaker lang siya. Guitar PREAMP has their own TONE trademark or sound characteristic like using Marshall brown ang dating niya compare to FENDER matinis ang tunog niya and good for strat type guitar. It is all because they manufacture their own PREAMP tone as their TRADEMARK. now your not gonna use their PREAMP only that of your variety COSM simulated preamp.

Enjoy and goodluck in finding your tone,
 

[champz]

Yes champz,
Guitar>GT10>AMP return not AMP input. Kung meron AMP return yon Physical AMP and gagamitin mo and then set the physical AMP return of the AMP level. Your GT10 panel OUTPUT KNOB will be then you master volume or level. No need to use the 4CM or AMP send ng physical AMP just the Physical AMP RETURN. Then use GT10 system set to the last option line/device out not STACK or COMBO. Kc this will only activate the cab sim. Your just gonna need two(2) cables.

ok so Guitar > GT10 input > L/mono > Amp return? Tas set yung output select to line/ device? Sir mejo nalilito lang ako san ba yung jack nung AMP RETURN? yung nirerefer ko kasing guitar input sa amp ung normal na jack sa left side lang and i really dont know kung input ba un or return.. first multi ko kasi to and gamit ko lang dalas dati is pedals lang kaya dun lang ako kumukonet lagi kaya di ko alam ung sa amp return and wala rin kasi akong amp so di ko talaga alam un .. san ko ba makikita ung amp return.. and pagnaconnect ko na sya dun ok na sya? Kahit maggamit ako ng preamp ng GT hindi magugulo ung tunog? mahirap kasi dun pa ako magkalikot mauubos oras para pagdun ung sa tone na lang ang poproblemahin ko and mejo madali na magadjust paglumalabas ung tunog nya talaga dun sa amp.. thanks ulit sir roger!

[rogeryu]

Yes champz,
Correct, Guitar>GT10>Left/mono>AMP Return.

To the GT10 setting
-Setting the ouput reference level to match the connected equipment(Main Output Level) see page 65, choose the -10db co'z your going to connect the GT10 to the Guitar AMP.

-Making setting for a connected device (Output Select) see page 25. Select the LINE/PHONE. This is what i use kasi this is the only option that activate the cab and mic sim so you can use both feature. It also stated in manual same page last sentence *When using the speaker simulation, set this to LINE/PHONE.
Although you will see those cab setting menu but there is no effect when using STACK or COMBO. Just set it to LINE/PHONE to make sure.
Now go to page 98-101 and read the selection type COSM preamp and their instructions plus the custom amp setting and custom speaker setting and experiment with it.
Why I don't use STACK or COMBO kc don ko naririnig yong COSM preamp COCKED WAH so I prefer LINE/PHONE. You'll get to know that better later in the future usage and you'll thank me to pointing that out.   

-Your GT10 panel black KNOB will now be your MASTER VOLUME. Experiment with TONE MODIFY or Post EQ so to not make it BOXY sound. I use resonator2 of TONE MODIFY.

To the Guitar AMP setting
check first the AMP your going to use kung may effect loop sa likod (Send and Return) this is what i'm refering AMP Return. Usually may EFFECT LEVEL KNOB din yan. Set it it to 12 o clock or middle. Then some has +4db and -10db push botton, just set it to -10db later test kung ok o hindi set it now to +4db kung ano preference sound mo. The purpose of that push botton is for impedance matching whenever or whatever device your going to input to the AMP Return. In your case GT10 is the device so that should be normally set to -10db. Pero kung MICROPHONE that should be +4db.

The aboved instruction is for the method i'm suggesting but if the AMP your going to use walang EFFECT LOOP no way, just go direct to AMP INPUT and use the AMP PREAMP clean channel then control the TONE so as to give way to the COSM preamp character sound medyo mahirap yan. The reason as I said is your gonna STACK the COSM preamp with another PREAMP if you get what I mean. This will sound harsh and sometimes overdriven and will just invalid the true sound of your COSM preamp simulator. Para kang nag patong ng dalawang Metal zone o dalawang distortion o overdrive. Yes sometime I did some experiment using the AMP INPUT and tweak it to closer to the sound good to me but slightly difference really just using the COSM preamp, para kang may dalang maraming GUITAR AMP iba iba ang TONE mo, that's the real purpose of COSM preamp. Others like it so much their TUBE preamp kaya 4CM ang ginagamit nila at ayaw ng COSM preamp only the GT10 effects lng, sayang ang binayaran nila sa GT10. I remember also suggesting sana gumawa ang Boss ng 2 version ng GT10 one mas mura walang COSM preamp and the other version that we had para nakatipid sila.

O baka di ka na niyan bumili ng DVD ha.....

Goodluck,
 

[champz]

Hi sir roger. Kakatapos lng ng practice namin. ANd really thanks for ur help. Mejo nagamit ko naman ng maayos ung GT. Although syempre di pa ganun kaganda ung tunog. Pagnag 4cm method ba ako meaning hindi ko pwede gamitin ung PREAMP na button ng GT? Like walang effect un? Parang mangyayari individual pedal na lang ang GT? Ung pagkabit nalang ba talaga sa fx return ang the best na gawin? Baka may naforget pa kayo sabihin sa akin.. hehe.. may time pa naman kasi sa friday pa ung tugtog namin.. and good thing may time daw kami magsetup ng gamit dun sa place bago magstart..

Last po.. gagamit ako ng patch na high gain and clean.. pano ko po ba gagawin na sa channel A eh high gain at sa Channel B ang clean.. san ko po ba kakalikutin un? Nalilito kasi ako humahalo pa rin ung distortion ng A pagnasa channel B na ako.. ang ginawa ko kasi nilagay ko lang ung chorus sa channel B sa FXCHAIN and then write.. pwede po ba ung ano sa channel A ang mga umiilaw lang eh ung mga high gain effects ko at pagnilipat ko sa B iilaw naman ung clean lang na effects? Nakakalito na ata tanong ko.. hehe.. sana nagets ko pa rin.. kasi ung ginawa ko hindi namamatay ung mga ilaw nya nagiiba lang ung tunog kaya mejo kakalito.. tapos po ung sa volume pano po un iseset na parehas sila ng lakas nung high gain patch at nung clean.. nahihirapan kasi ako magadjust sa guitar volume knob eh.. sensya na sir.. thanks po ulit! Bibili pa rin pala ako ng dvd  hahaha... thanks!

[rogeryu]

Yes champz,

4CM set up remember the S/R is your PHYSICAL PREAMP, you should not lit the COSM preamp may effect yun KC both are activate. In your case you like to use only the PHYSICAL preamp so don't lit the COSM preamp it would stack both preamp sound. In 4CM set up usually they only like the onboard effect and discard the COSM like you said parang individual pedal na lng yon.
The IDEAL chain set is this but there's no RULE.
Guitar> comp>OD/DS>PREAMP>Modulation effects>AMPLIFIER>Speaker.

If you would analyzed this when using COSM preamp the ideal guitar input is INTO FX LOOP ng amp so to get the aboved suggestion. Kc everything is line up according to GT effect chain di ba.
Look when we use the GUITAR into the AMP INPUT not on the AMP FX LOOP
Guitar>Comp>OD/DS>COSM PREAMP>Modulation>AMP PREAMP>Amply>Spk.
you will stack both PREAMP and yet your GT modulation will go into AMP PREAMP and will then be process it then out to AMPLIFER stage going into speaker. Modulation effects would be suffer plus your COSM preamp would be colored by the AMP PREAMP TONE and you will not get the desire COSM modeller sound as is. That's why AMP RETURN is advised. INPUT din yan AMP RETURN only bypassing the amp preamp.

"Last po.. gagamit ako ng patch na high gain and clean.. pano ko po ba gagawin na sa channel A eh high gain at sa Channel B ang clean.. san ko po ba kakalikutin un? Nalilito kasi ako humahalo pa rin ung distortion ng A pagnasa channel B na ako.. ang ginawa ko kasi nilagay ko lang ung chorus sa channel B sa FXCHAIN and then write.. pwede po ba ung ano sa channel A ang mga umiilaw lang eh ung mga high gain effects ko at pagnilipat ko sa B iilaw naman ung clean lang na effects?

Yes, you need to make use of ASSIGN programming to Switch ON and OFF those effects for intended channel. You can see at the FX CHAIN line up that CHANNEL A and CHANNEL B is parallel. Just set beside those effects for particular channel and switch it ON or OFF Just using CTL1

            --OD/DS>Hgain Pre>NS1>FX1--
Guitar>-                                              -- EQ>Chorus>Delay>Reverb>AMP
            --Comp>Clean Pre>>NS2>FX2--

Sample CTL1 at PDL/FX icon default or set is Channel A/B select

assign1 target OD/DS to OFF source CTL1
assign2 target FX1 to OFF source CTL1
assign3 target COMP to ON source CTL1
assign4 target FX2 to ON source CTL1
Read the manual on how to set up the ASSIGN
Sample the default patch channel A Hgain when you step on CTL1 the channel will switch to clean channel B and also will switch OFF the OD/DS and FX1 eventually this would switch ON now both Comp and FX2 and the flow will continue to modulation effects. You can also include some modulation effects to be switch ON and OFF as assign5 and so forth just using only the Control 1.

If your still not well verse in using ASSIGN, the easiest way is to make 2 different patch short cut isn't it. But the point is you should know how to use this for you to be more effective in building patch and it's your tool just use your imagination and be creative you could apply those later in many application.

[rogeryu]

Yes champz,

4CM set up remember the S/R is your PHYSICAL PREAMP, you should not lit the COSM preamp may effect yun KC both are activate. In your case you like to use only the PHYSICAL preamp so don't lit the COSM preamp it would stack both preamp sound. In 4CM set up usually they only like the onboard effect and discard the COSM like you said parang individual pedal na lng yon.
The IDEAL chain set is this but there's no RULE.
Guitar> comp>OD/DS>PREAMP>Modulation effects>AMPLIFIER>Speaker.

If you would analyzed this when using COSM preamp the ideal guitar input is INTO FX LOOP ng amp so to get the aboved suggestion. Kc everything is line up according to GT effect chain di ba.
Look when we use the GUITAR into the AMP INPUT not on the AMP FX LOOP
Guitar>Comp>OD/DS>COSM PREAMP>Modulation>AMP PREAMP>Amply>Spk.
you will stack both PREAMP and yet your GT modulation will go into AMP PREAMP and will then be process it then out to AMPLIFER stage going into speaker. Modulation effects would be suffer plus your COSM preamp would be colored by the AMP PREAMP TONE and you will not get the desire COSM modeller sound as is. That's why AMP RETURN is advised. INPUT din yan AMP RETURN only bypassing the amp preamp.

"Last po.. gagamit ako ng patch na high gain and clean.. pano ko po ba gagawin na sa channel A eh high gain at sa Channel B ang clean.. san ko po ba kakalikutin un? Nalilito kasi ako humahalo pa rin ung distortion ng A pagnasa channel B na ako.. ang ginawa ko kasi nilagay ko lang ung chorus sa channel B sa FXCHAIN and then write.. pwede po ba ung ano sa channel A ang mga umiilaw lang eh ung mga high gain effects ko at pagnilipat ko sa B iilaw naman ung clean lang na effects?

Yes, you need to make use of ASSIGN programming to Switch ON and OFF those effects for intended channel. You can see at the FX CHAIN line up that CHANNEL A and CHANNEL B is parallel. Just set beside those effects for particular channel and switch it ON or OFF Just using CTL1

            --OD/DS>Hgain Pre>NS1>FX1--
Guitar>-                                              -- EQ>Chorus>Delay>Reverb>AMP
            --Comp>Clean Pre>>NS2>FX2--

Sample CTL1 at PDL/FX icon default or set is Channel A/B select

assign1 target OD/DS to OFF source CTL1
assign2 target FX1 to OFF source CTL1
assign3 target COMP to ON source CTL1
assign4 target FX2 to ON source CTL1
Read the manual on how to set up the ASSIGN
Sample the default patch channel A Hgain when you step on CTL1 the channel will switch to clean channel B and also will switch OFF the OD/DS and FX1 eventually this would switch ON now both Comp and FX2 and the flow will continue to modulation effects. You can also include some modulation effects to be switch ON and OFF as assign5 and so forth just using only the Control 1.

If your still not well verse in using ASSIGN, the easiest way is to make 2 different patch short cut isn't it. But the point is you should know how to use this for you to be more effective in building patch and it's your tool just use your imagination and be creative you could apply those later in many application.

[champz]

sir roger thanks for ur time sa pagreply.. dami ko na natutunan.. gagawin ko palang ung tinuro nyo about dun sa pagassign ng control.. gagayahin ko na lang ung nilagay nyong setup ng pedal sa fxchain.. ung sa select target na ang di ko pa alam.. sir ano bang magandang combination ng OD at PREAMP para sa high gain na patch? Tipong mabigat parang sa metallica or heavy pa dun para may idea lang kayo kung ano ung gusto ko maachieve na tunog.. ung patch kasi ng metallica na nadl ko iba ung tunog sa amp eh pero dito sa pc ayos sya.. Tsaka sa clean na rin ano magandang combination ng PREAMP at ng pedals.. thanks again!

[rogeryu]

Oooops maraming recipes diyan and you're the one who's going to be the chef!
Your mouth taste now be your ear, meron diyan manok, meron diyan baboy meron baka meron din gulay....
Lahat tayo chef, ang specialty ko chinese food kaya mahilig ako sa maanghang MS1959 I+II pero di masyado kaya may konting Turbo Overdrive para ma HIGH ako. Masarap naman din sa akin ang gulay kay nagluluto rin ako ng JC120 at may marasap na Tubescreamer para CLEAN at bumaba ang B/P ko. Now mahilig din ako sa vetsin at paminta kay nilalagyan ko ng FX1 Tone Modify at FX2 PARA EQ para malinamnam at di malansang FIZZ at suwabe. Kung ako magluluto baka di mo kainin 

[champz]

haha.. thanks sir.. hindi ko kasi madistinguish ung mga pagkakaiba nila pagmga distorted patch na.. maingay kasi dito sa speaker ng pc kaya parang same na ung tunog nila.. actually natutuliling na nga tenga ko sa ingay.. nakita ko na rin ung sa assign function sa masterfx.. ganun lang pala kadali un.. hehe.. nalito kasi ako na 8 pwede mo macontrol sa CTRL 1 lang.. haha .. naisip ko kasi ctrl 1 at 2 lang un so dalawa lang.. haha.. sensya na newbie talaga.. pero nagets ko na rin ganun lang pala kadali un.. parang christmas light na ung GT ko patay sindi ng patay sindi na  ang mga buttons .. thanks talaga sir ha.. hehe.. waiting pa sa pera pambili ng dvd nako lapit na matapos ang sale  Merry Christmas na!

[rogeryu]

Sure champz, all the time comrade.

@J3yps,
Sir may topic ba sa DVD regarding MIDI usage and control. Kc I have a my CASIO keyboard MA-150 with MIDI cable maybe I need to buy the DVD to learn more on this.

Thanks,

[j3yps]

Sure champz, all the time comrade.

@J3yps,
Sir may topic ba sa DVD regarding MIDI usage and control. Kc I have a my CASIO keyboard MA-150 with MIDI cable maybe I need to buy the DVD to learn more on this.

Thanks,

Parang wala sir roger eh...

[inkslingerx]

Cge i'll just text you. Man kinuha na Zoom 505 ko......... naiiyak AKOOOOOOOO!

pinakawalan mo na sir? sakin di ko makuhang ibenta, nanghihinayang ako kahit di ko na gigngamit..

[rogeryu]

pinakawalan mo na sir? sakin di ko makuhang ibenta, nanghihinayang ako kahit di ko na gigngamit..

Nanghihinayan din ako eh.

[inkslingerx]

may update na sa fizz supressor sir roger?  mass pro na, mass pro...

[rogeryu]

may update na sa fizz supressor sir roger?  mass pro na, mass pro...

This was his PM to me.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Roger. Pardon my ignorance, I do wish I had heard of the harmonic converger. But maybe a visit to google will change that.

I have ways of getting something mass-produced. Let's get together in January or something, when some personal items have cleared and we can have that mass-produced. grin

warmest

jobet
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I 'll check him out for update, hey anyone experiencing hard to access and difficult to post now in philmusic? baka naman broadband ko ?

Thanks,

[champz]

This was his PM to me.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Roger. Pardon my ignorance, I do wish I had heard of the harmonic converger. But maybe a visit to google will change that.

I have ways of getting something mass-produced. Let's get together in January or something, when some personal items have cleared and we can have that mass-produced. grin

warmest

jobet
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I 'll check him out for update, hey anyone experiencing hard to access and difficult to post now in philmusic? baka naman broadband ko ?

Thanks,

ganyan talaga madalas sa pagpopost or pagview sa philmusic sir.. madalas pagclick mo ng post magiging blank ung page tas pagnirefresh mo ireresend ulit tas error na lalabas or minsan blank pa din.. ganun kasi sa akin madalas eh pero may time din na mabilis sya kahit sabay sabay ka pa nga magopen ng page dito sa philmusic.. smart bro akin pero sa school Pldt dsl ganun din eh bagal pa rin.. kaya for me parang normal na ung hirap ng magpost at pagview dito    like now 

[inkslingerx]

This was his PM to me.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Roger. Pardon my ignorance, I do wish I had heard of the harmonic converger. But maybe a visit to google will change that.

I have ways of getting something mass-produced. Let's get together in January or something, when some personal items have cleared and we can have that mass-produced. grin

warmest

jobet
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

cool , lets just include this in our christmas wishes that this project will materialize..

[rogeryu]

Inklingerx
I'm sure it is  but maybe early next year.

J3yps,
I already received the DVD package, test ko later and thanks comrade.

Roger

[inkslingerx]

ayun o. im expecting mine anytime bukas

[champz]

  nasa inyo na dvd nyo? Hay  .. last na ba bukas para sa promo ni sir j3yps? Sobrang busy sa practice para sa gig namin bukas.. sana makadaan ng bangko bukas.. cant wait to have my own copy.. 

[tapslore]

interesado din ako. but do we have teejay's permission for locally distributing the tutorial in such a manner?

+1, i'm also interested.  just want to be sure everything's above board.

[lestervai]

nakagamit ako gt-10 kagabi...
lupet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!