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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2009, 12:11:43 PM »
yup... and ang masama pa dun... pumapangit ang quality ng music scene natin dito sa Pilipinas kasi kahit hindi pa handa sumabak yung banda ay napipilitan sumabak kasi madali lang magkagig basta may pera pambayad. which is dapat hindi ganun. ang masama pa dun, hindi na rin talaga nafeafeature yung mga magagaling na bands kasi nga mostly ng magagaling ay ayaw nman ng pay to play gigs. so ang nangyayari eh, nasasaturate na yung mga bands dto sa atin na nageend up sa exploitation ng talents ng mga musicians na instead na they get paid for what they do eh they pay to do what they want to do.

in contrast naman, yung mga bands dn may pagkukulang din pagdating sa pagsupport sa mga nagpapaprod. minsan, 6 bands na nga lng sila tutugtog, eh may attitude pa sila na tugtog-alis. minsan, lalagari pa sa ibang gigs, so nasan ang support? and kawawa naman yung mga naiiwan na bands.

isa pa ay yung magpapalineup yung banda ahead of time tapos after magawa yung ads for the event ah magbaback out last minute or worse, hindi sisipot sa gig. kaya ang nangyayari, itong si nagpapaprod nalulugi(cyempre, business din ang pagproprod), kaya sa next event, magtatambak na sya ng napakaraming banda para in case na magbackout ang isa o mangindian yung isa eh ok lng kasi madami pa rin tutugtog.

in the end talo tayong lahat mapaprod, o mapabanda.

solusyon lang jan ay magtulungan at magbigayan. wag maging buwaya kasi mga musicians tayo hindi tyo mga pulitiko.

ok?

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« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2009, 05:12:08 PM »
pati sa mga BOB nangyayari rin naman ang ganito...either may entrance fee or papabenta sila sa bands ng tickets or ang pinakamasakit e BOTH.

i was able to watch a BOB recently and to my dismay, i've learned that contestants paid an entrance fee of P300 plus 10 P30 tickets...

what's more interesting is that there were 29 bands competing for a measly sum of 4k (or was it 3k?) for the champion, 2k for 2nd and 1k for 3rd...

do the math...
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2009, 07:15:27 PM »
Quote from: Bale on November 14, 2009, 05:12:08 PM
pati sa mga BOB nangyayari rin naman ang ganito...either may entrance fee or papabenta sila sa bands ng tickets or ang pinakamasakit e BOTH.

i was able to watch a BOB recently and to my dismay, i've learned that contestants paid an entrance fee of P300 plus 10 P30 tickets...

what's more interesting is that there were 29 bands competing for a measly sum of 4k (or was it 3k?) for the champion, 2k for 2nd and 1k for 3rd...

do the math...

tama ka jan bro... considering marunong naman magmath ang mga Pinoy, hindi ko alam kung bakit patuloy pa rin nilang sinusuportahan ang mga event na ganun... isa lang talaga ang masasabi ko jan, walang maloloko kung walang magpapaloko...

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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2009, 07:36:08 PM »
Quote from: jobs on November 14, 2009, 07:15:27 PM
tama ka jan bro... considering marunong naman magmath ang mga Pinoy, hindi ko alam kung bakit patuloy pa rin nilang sinusuportahan ang mga event na ganun... isa lang talaga ang masasabi ko jan, walang maloloko kung walang magpapaloko...



+10,000  :-D
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #29 on: November 17, 2009, 01:17:39 AM »
speaking of loko... nayari kame dyan sa may cubao ng siang prod na ewan ko ba kung bakit di sinabi na ticket selling pala sila. pag dating namindun na lang nag kaalaman. at dahil napag kasunduan ng banda na sayang ang labas namen ng agbing yun kung di kame makatugtog,pinatulan naman namin.
big mistake.
napagkasunduan na pang lima kami sa lineup. we were at the venue @ 9pm. 2am n di pa kame nakatugtog dahil andami nila pinasingit. bulok yung nag paprod kase pati banda bandahan na wala man lamang sariling gitara ay hinayaan nila umakyat sa stage. ung set up umaabot ng 20 min kase nagmamakaawa pa sila na pahiramin sila ng cable or effects or instrumento.
kung walang dalang gamit, sana wag na lang tumugtog.
ang ending, backout din kame kase plano pala nila kame i huli sa line up. nak ng teteng yan. :| bastusan e.
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2009, 09:29:36 AM »
Quote from: rustdemon on November 17, 2009, 01:17:39 AM
speaking of loko... nayari kame dyan sa may cubao ng siang prod na ewan ko ba kung bakit di sinabi na ticket selling pala sila. pag dating namindun na lang nag kaalaman. at dahil napag kasunduan ng banda na sayang ang labas namen ng agbing yun kung di kame makatugtog,pinatulan naman namin.
big mistake.
napagkasunduan na pang lima kami sa lineup. we were at the venue @ 9pm. 2am n di pa kame nakatugtog dahil andami nila pinasingit. bulok yung nag paprod kase pati banda bandahan na wala man lamang sariling gitara ay hinayaan nila umakyat sa stage. ung set up umaabot ng 20 min kase nagmamakaawa pa sila na pahiramin sila ng cable or effects or instrumento.
kung walang dalang gamit, sana wag na lang tumugtog.
ang ending, backout din kame kase plano pala nila kame i huli sa line up. nak ng teteng yan. :| bastusan e.


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« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2009, 05:24:45 AM »
  DI NAMAN LAHAT NG PRODUCTION GANUN...DEPENDE SA GOAL NG PROD...


  I still remember last April ng Host kami ng FREE JAM SA BARANGGAY NAMIN...
  Since nasa BAND SCENE din ako at first time naming magkaroon ng ganun "JAM"..
  I want to settle it good and remarkable for the both parties, the organizers and the bands(isa kasi ako sa
  head organizer and it's all my plans)

  DAHIL NGA GUSTO NAMING MAGKAROON NG "GOOD IMPRESSION YONG MGA ININVITE NAMING BANDS"
  "AT PARA KUNG MAG-ORGANIZE KAMI SA GANUONG EVENTS DI  KAMI MAPAHIYA SA MGA BANDA NA 
  ININVITE NAMIN..KAYA ANG GINAWA NAMIN..

   1. FREE SERVICE(TRANSPORTATION DOOR TO DOOR) "BACK AND PORT".
   2. FREE FOOD + SNACK = BUSOG
   3. WE OFFER BEER :-D
   4. PLUS P200 EACH MEMBERS!

    FREE LAHAT!!!!

   Nakakatuwa kasi lahat ng band nag-Enjoy!!! yong Bukang bibig nila  "astig kayo dito..sarap bumalik..!!!"
   NAGKAROON KAMI NG GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER BANDS...SOME OF THEM TALAGANG "WILLING
   TO COOPERATE"... AT YON YONG MGA BAND NA NAGTATAK SA ISIPAN NAMIN...

   AND WORTH LAHAT NG GASTOS!!!  HAHHAAHHA


  but syempre as an organizers nalaman ko kung sino sa mga band yong "PAY TO PLAY"...
  AT YON YONG MGA BANDANG "ALAMS NA"

   

  GANUN LANG NAMAN KASI YON EH! SIGURO SA MGA PROD.. KILALANIN DIN NILA YONG BAND NA TALAGANG WILLING TO COOPERATE!!


   

   
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #32 on: November 21, 2009, 08:49:09 AM »
Quote from: 13thchapter on November 21, 2009, 05:24:45 AM
  DI NAMAN LAHAT NG PRODUCTION GANUN...DEPENDE SA GOAL NG PROD...


  I still remember last April ng Host kami ng FREE JAM SA BARANGGAY NAMIN...
  Since nasa BAND SCENE din ako at first time naming magkaroon ng ganun "JAM"..
  I want to settle it good and remarkable for the both parties, the organizers and the bands(isa kasi ako sa
  head organizer and it's all my plans)

  DAHIL NGA GUSTO NAMING MAGKAROON NG "GOOD IMPRESSION YONG MGA ININVITE NAMING BANDS"
  "AT PARA KUNG MAG-ORGANIZE KAMI SA GANUONG EVENTS DI  KAMI MAPAHIYA SA MGA BANDA NA 
  ININVITE NAMIN..KAYA ANG GINAWA NAMIN..

   1. FREE SERVICE(TRANSPORTATION DOOR TO DOOR) "BACK AND PORT".
   2. FREE FOOD + SNACK = BUSOG
   3. WE OFFER BEER :-D
   4. PLUS P200 EACH MEMBERS!

    FREE LAHAT!!!!

   Nakakatuwa kasi lahat ng band nag-Enjoy!!! yong Bukang bibig nila  "astig kayo dito..sarap bumalik..!!!"
   NAGKAROON KAMI NG GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH OTHER BANDS...SOME OF THEM TALAGANG "WILLING
   TO COOPERATE"... AT YON YONG MGA BAND NA NAGTATAK SA ISIPAN NAMIN...

   AND WORTH LAHAT NG GASTOS!!!  HAHHAAHHA


  but syempre as an organizers nalaman ko kung sino sa mga band yong "PAY TO PLAY"...
  AT YON YONG MGA BANDANG "ALAMS NA"

   

  GANUN LANG NAMAN KASI YON EH! SIGURO SA MGA PROD.. KILALANIN DIN NILA YONG BAND NA TALAGANG WILLING TO COOPERATE!!


   

   

saan yan sir? pasali naman po...hehehe...

transpo + food + BEER ay sobrang ok na nga lalo na kung medyo underground bands yung mga nakuha niyo... the P200.00 na pabaon,however big or small this amount is, will be much appreciated by the bands, the "GOOD IMPRESSION" you made on them will be remembered the next time you put up a gig like this...lalong dadami susuporta sa mga production niyo kapag laging ganyan...

+10,000 to you sir!
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #33 on: November 21, 2009, 10:20:43 AM »
Quote from: Bale on November 21, 2009, 08:49:09 AM
saan yan sir? pasali naman po...hehehe...

transpo + food + BEER ay sobrang ok na nga lalo na kung medyo underground bands yung mga nakuha niyo... the P200.00 na pabaon,however big or small this amount is, will be much appreciated by the bands, the "GOOD IMPRESSION" you made on them will be remembered the next time you put up a gig like this...lalong dadami susuporta sa mga production niyo kapag laging ganyan...

+10,000 to you sir!

Quote from: Bale on November 21, 2009, 08:49:09 AM
saan yan sir? pasali naman po...hehehe...

transpo + food + BEER ay sobrang ok na nga lalo na kung medyo underground bands yung mga nakuha niyo... the P200.00 na pabaon,however big or small this amount is, will be much appreciated by the bands, the "GOOD IMPRESSION" you made on them will be remembered the next time you put up a gig like this...lalong dadami susuporta sa mga production niyo kapag laging ganyan...

+10,000 to you sir!

hhahahahhahha...ganun???  nga pala gusto share uli:

 Di poh kami production, Oh maybe that time.,,we're just simple  SK COUNCIL who want to influence youth with music. Worth naman po lahat kasi lahat ng youth sa amin ng-ENJOY. and FYI...yong perang ginastos ay hindi galing sa "ERA FUND"...gumawa kami ng way para magawa yon..."YONG MGA BANDA NAG VOLUNTEER NG MAG GAMIT NA GAGAMITIN..." THEY ARE ALSO THE ONE WHO SUGGEST NA ICLOSE YONG GATE AT MAGPABAYAD KAHIT KUNTI BUT THEY DONT WANT DAW ANYTHING IN RETURN, AS LONG AS THEY WANT TO HELP!"

 SO DAHIL NAKIKITA NAMIN YONG SENCERITY NG MGA BANDA NA NAKIKIPAG-COOPERATE, I KNOW THE FEELING--- KAYA GINAWA NAMIN AYON SA NAPAG-USAPAN NG BUONG COUNCIL."NAKAKAHIYA NAMAN TINGNAN YONG MGA TAONG NANDYAN PARA TUMULONG NG WALA KA MANLANG BINIBIGAY NA PAMPATANGAL NG PAGUD(KAHIT DI NAMAN PAGUD).

 BUT AFTER TWO THAT NIGTH...NAGKAROON NG BATTLE OF THE BAND SA AMIN...BUT LOOK BOTB NA YAN FREE TRANSPO PA RIN, PLUS SNACK..

KAYA NATATAWA SILA SA AMIN KASI PANAY SORRY NAMIN KASI YON LANG YONG NAKAYANAN NAMIN..BUT YET THEY SAID: "SOBRA-SOBRA NA NGA YON!, SA LAHAT NG GIG NA PINUNTAHAN NAMIN..DITO ANG THE BEST, SA SA UULITIN!"

POINT:NAGAWA NGA NAMIN NA WE'RE JUST NEWBIE..AND WE DON'T HAVE EVEN HUGE KNOWLEDGE IN PRODUCTION...YONG MGA TOTOONG PROD PA KAYA. IMPORTANTE ANG PERA IN DOING A BUSINESS. BUT PUTTING GOOD IMPRESSION AND HARMONIOUS RELATIONSHIP IS ONE OF THE FACTOR. MAGTULUNGAN LANG AT INTINDIHIN ANG BAWAT PARTIES PARA MASAYA!!!

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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2009, 08:55:18 AM »
Want to know which productions to avoid? www.notoscum.org
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« Reply #35 on: December 01, 2009, 11:47:19 AM »


kawawa talaga at mahirap music scene sa atin.. nakakalungkot marami ang nag-aabuso.. (may point din ung mga ngpost sa notoscum.org) mejo msyadong hardcore nga lng  :-)
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2009, 01:41:02 AM »
Quote from: PULUBING ALISTO on November 01, 2009, 07:51:11 PM
ibang klaseng tong mga nagpapa production nato ... puhunan nila load lang and konting p.r pera na!!!

pero ang pagkakaalam ko malaki kita nitong mga to, they dont care kung saan lupalop ka nanggaling basta pagnag pa line up ka sumipot ka
kaze nakalista na yan sa kikitain nila...

and i dont care either kung sila nag renta ng venue or place pra sa production

dahil di makatao ang trato nitong mga to sa mga musikerong mahirap tulad ko...

buti sana kung may mga kontak yang mga yan sa music industry karamihan sa kanila e gusto lang talagang kumita dami dyan nag hahandle ng production e minor de edad pa at maangas pa makipagusap!!! kala mo kung sinong mga pesteng magaling sa tugtugan

karamihan sa kanila wala namang alam!!!

sa tingin nyo ba guys tama ba na ang mga members pa sa mga banda nyo ang magbabayad sa entrance fee or magbebenta ng ticket pra makapag gig ng maximum of 2 to 3 songs lang??? sobrang pang aapi yun dba, i dont agree to that!!!

di ba naiisip ng mga manhid at buraot na to na inaabuso lang nila ang mga talento ng mga musikerong naghahangad makilala sa madla??? di ba nila naiisip na di ninananakaw ang mga gamit ng mga banda at lalong di madali makapag produce ng gamit dahil kailangan mo nang sapat halaga pra magkaroon ng sariling gear etc???

sa madalit salita dapat patayin ang ganitong klaseng production sa music industry wala tayong makukuha sa kanila pero satin malaki ang mawawala at nagagamit pa tayo ng mga to...

magisip ka kapatid kung tama ba na abusuhin tayong mga musikero ng mga gahaman at mga linta nato...

kung may masasabi ka at againts ka sa kanila its your chance to say it now or never!!! :x

ayos Bro! +10000000

naka incounter na kami nito...


pag dating sa text ok pa, pero pag nandun ka na

tyaka ka sisingilin.. grrrrr...  pero hindi naman pinagbibigyan yung mga ganyan production..

hindi nalang kami tutugtog,. mag iinuman nalang kami.  :lol: :-D



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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #37 on: December 22, 2009, 10:54:31 AM »
agree.... these prods are not helping the scene matagal ng sistema yan early 90's pa, nag bago lang mga names at personalities,

pero nasa ating mga artist din sagot dyan.....  we can always sa "NO".... instead of maging pissed at bitter tayo just say NO the next time... o kaya pag first time mo sa isang prod i pag tanong mo sa ibang mga tumugtog na dun.....

frankly may mga reputation naman yang mga prod na yan eh sa mga banda din kayo mag tanong...

there are some prods naman dyan na hindi income ang habol... yung iba just to get something going, yung iba sort like throwing parties, yun nalang ang samahan nyo ipag tanong nyo lang

advice lang pag pumayag ka ng libre one time sigurado babalikbalikan ka nila.... libre eh, if you know your good at something dont do it for free....   

ako still do prods pero never ako nag yes sa T.Y. (na snob pa). the bare minimum at least may GAS money, some food, and a couple of drinks. Kung seryoso ang prod na yan they will try to get quality acts.... syempre hindi yan libre

Just say NO

yun lang naman
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« Reply #38 on: December 22, 2009, 12:15:45 PM »
Quote from: erniebong on December 22, 2009, 10:54:31 AM
agree.... these prods are not helping the scene matagal ng sistema yan early 90's pa, nag bago lang mga names at personalities,

pero nasa ating mga artist din sagot dyan.....  we can always sa "NO".... instead of maging pissed at bitter tayo just say NO the next time... o kaya pag first time mo sa isang prod i pag tanong mo sa ibang mga tumugtog na dun.....

frankly may mga reputation naman yang mga prod na yan eh sa mga banda din kayo mag tanong...

there are some prods naman dyan na hindi income ang habol... yung iba just to get something going, yung iba sort like throwing parties, yun nalang ang samahan nyo ipag tanong nyo lang

advice lang pag pumayag ka ng libre one time sigurado babalikbalikan ka nila.... libre eh, if you know your good at something dont do it for free....   

ako still do prods pero never ako nag yes sa T.Y. (na snob pa). the bare minimum at least may GAS money, some food, and a couple of drinks. Kung seryoso ang prod na yan they will try to get quality acts.... syempre hindi yan libre

Just say NO

yun lang naman

There was a prod at Dayo bar - Lights On Production - that we walked out on. Nagtext sa akin a few weeks ago asking if we want to play again, 300 lang naman daw ang remit and take note, they text in the stupid jologs text linggo with "q" "xa", etc. I replied, "asa ka [avocado]".
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« Reply #39 on: December 22, 2009, 12:23:01 PM »
No!

NO!

WTF NO!
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« Reply #40 on: December 22, 2009, 01:07:28 PM »
Quote from: greenweenie on December 22, 2009, 12:15:45 PM
There was a prod at Dayo bar - Lights On Production - that we walked out on. Nagtext sa akin a few weeks ago asking if we want to play again, 300 lang naman daw ang remit and take note, they text in the stupid jologs text linggo with "q" "xa", etc. I replied, "asa ka [avocado]".

at talagang pinanidigan pa nila yung modus nila ah, ayus yun ah....

there was one time sa isa ring prod eh olats talaga we came in there walang maayos na gamit as in a beaten old drumset and a 10 watt practice amp a simple P.A. thats it (in fairness there was food for the bands but not a single drink was offered to us).. we kept our composure and tried to remain professional and played well enough to beat the odds... and before we leave.... pinasuka namin ng pera walang nagawa nagbigay siya ng tipong Penguin Bar na TF... for us its not just the money we taught them a hard lesson. that there is a price for wasting someone else's time.... na sana man lang if they cant pay us they should make an effort for the bands to have a good time.

artists are proud people hindi pwedeng ganyan gayanin tayo diba? kaya if you think your good enough to get paid? say no and let them settle for what they can get for free.....
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #41 on: December 22, 2009, 01:28:04 PM »
share din ako ng naranasan namen sa mga ganitong prod..

nangyare to sa cavite ehh,bali super layo ng venue kahit taga cavite din kami.
then ayan na pag punta namin super excited kami to play kasi parang first time namen tumugtog sa ibang lugar.
pag dating namin sa venue,almost 8pm na pero wala padin kahit isang ampli,as in wala.
akala nga namin hindi na tuloy ehh,tapos maya dumating na revo or adventure taz ibinaba yung mga drumset,ampli etc.walang sound system,parang nirentahan lang yung gamit sa studio.mga 9pm na halos yun.
una kaming nakatugtog,dahil bukod sa gabi na,malayo at delikado ang byahe.(madami kasi kaming dalang gears nun,pasikat ehh  :-P)
dahil sobrang badtrip,umalis kami without paying the said prod :lol:

Worst part??

piniem kami sa FS nung isang organizer(mga january na ata nun,november naganap yung "gig")
at SINISINGIL kami,pampondo daw ng next gig nila.

scum na scum. :x
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2010, 04:36:50 AM »
Huwag tumugtog sa "PAY TO PLAY" event.
Kumilos tayo upang mabago ang takbo ng eksena...
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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2010, 12:57:21 AM »
@paeng

thanks for the up.  ngayon ko lang nakita ang thread na ito.

grabe naman yung kay TS...so hindi lang siya ticket selling, PAY TO PLAY PA kasi kelangan magbayad ng entrance ang mga bandmembers?

take an average band...say, 5 members...tapos magbabayad sila ng tig-P100 na tickets.  so P500 na yan.  tapos yung sampung guests pa nila...alam ko usually mga 7 to 10 guests ang kelangan ng mga hayop na yan.  so mga P700-1000 additional na bayad yan thru ticket sales.  grabe talaga yung mga menor de edad na yan na nagpapaprod...tulad ng sinabi ko dati, mabuti pa at magtrabaho na lang sila bilang service crew.  at least pag ganun wala silang natatapakan...marangal na after-school job...

will do more backreading.  matagal nang nag-lie low ang mga scum prods dito sa PM, at november '09 pa ang thread na ito...but it's still interesting reading...
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #44 on: July 21, 2010, 10:05:23 AM »
mga sir pwede nyo po ba ipm sa akin yung mga ok na production?tnx
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« Reply #45 on: July 21, 2010, 05:22:59 PM »
Quote from: daniel_marshall on July 21, 2010, 10:05:23 AM
mga sir pwede nyo po ba ipm sa akin yung mga ok na production?tnx

Dito makikita mo yung mga hindi ok
Nasa listahan nila...
www.notoscum.org
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2010, 10:02:55 PM »
Quote from: paeng on July 21, 2010, 05:22:59 PM
Dito makikita mo yung mga hindi ok
Nasa listahan nila...
www.notoscum.org
VERY MUCH APPRECIATED,THANKS
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #47 on: October 04, 2010, 05:31:22 AM »
bakit ka naman tutugtog sa mga prod na may bayad???? :evil:
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Offline moony044

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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #48 on: October 18, 2010, 08:56:17 AM »
mejo naguluhan ako sa start ng thread... red kasi yung font sakit sa mata! :lol:

anyways...as i read on nakita ko yung sentiments ng bawat isa and if i am right the factors for saying NO to a production...

enumerate natin isa-isa kung maari, para dun sa mga magbabasa pa ng thread :mrgreen:

1.pay to play-a big no
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Re: ANTI- GIG PRODUCTION
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2010, 06:11:48 AM »
recently checked notoscum.org page, pero down na pala ito...
nakupo, papaano na yung "say no to pay-to-play" movement? :(
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