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Title: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on January 18, 2008, 11:38:34 AM
here is my top 3 Neil Peart  drum performances/recordings

1. Subdivisions - odd time signatures and his trademark para-didles this track from Rush's "Signals" album earned him the monicker of "human drum machine"

2. The Big Money - sounds pretty straight forward until you find out out that in addition to the brutal poundings, Peart triggers various samples and sequences whaile playing his ass off.  From Rush's "Power Windows" Album.

3. The Rhythm Method - Peart takes his percussionist expertise and the avaialable MIDI technology at the time to another level. From "A Show of Hands" live recording.

The guy also writes the majority of the lyrics for Rush's songs. 
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: cfbackbone™ on January 19, 2008, 10:01:26 AM
o bakit wala yata reply dito? ako basta na-aapreciate ko si neil peart. ay di pala na-aapreciate...sinasamba pala. haha!  :evil: :evil: panget ng banat!  :roll:
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on January 21, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
posted this to see if anybody here is into neil peart's drumming, turns out konti lang hahahah  :-D
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: peeves24 on January 21, 2008, 01:25:05 PM
i like neil  :-D


but i hate his dvds hahaha, ikwento ba naman yung ginagawa nya sa isang solo for 2 hours  :-P nakakasawa hehehe


but still, 2112 is one my favorite albums
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: woodstockintheattic on January 21, 2008, 01:43:43 PM
I love the part in one of his DVDs where he was elaborating on his "LSD Forever" performance when he was younger. How could his parents be so supportive of him with performance titles such as that?  :lol:
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 21, 2008, 02:40:59 PM
I'm a die hard fan of Rush, their music and lyrics...Neil Peart is one of my drum heroes, not to mention the lyrics that he wrote...very mind boggling.

All Rush songs are my favorites.
 
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 21, 2008, 02:56:52 PM
i admit, mejo late ko nang nakilala rush, nagkataon may nabili akong modern drummer na si neil peart ang cover, launch ng album nilang vapor trails. ang ganda nung article sa kanya dun, how he managed not to lose his sanity after losing his wife and daughter, lupit ng resolve nya. after that nag start na ko mag research sa rush and nagustuhan ko albums nila. yung 2112 bangis ng fills. pati yung intro sa one little victory, galing. aside from being an amazing drummer, lupit din lyricist, bihirang combination.
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on January 21, 2008, 04:54:41 PM
I love the part in one of his DVDs where he was elaborating on his "LSD Forever" performance when he was younger. How could his parents be so supportive of him with performance titles such as that?  :lol:

si neil peart lang yata sa rush ang openly nag-admit sa pagiging recreational drug user in his youth check out the lyrics to "a passage to bangkok" :) he is still a great drummer nonetheless and one of the few modern drummers who mine the "swing" drumming of the big bands in the 20's and 30's napansin ko nasi majority ng percussive flavor nowadays are middle eastern (in terms of meter) and afro-cuban (dito rin naman na-derive ata yung swing feel).
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 21, 2008, 07:04:10 PM
I heard that Neil wrote a book, I'm wondering if it was released? I think it's about his motorcycle travels after his family had an accident...
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: drumster on January 22, 2008, 03:32:13 AM
Oh man, I've been looking at this thread since it was first posted.  I've been really busy these last few days, and it's only now that I'll be able to share some of my thoughts about Neil Peart, my greatest influence and no. 1 drumming hero of all time!  Actually, I have so much to say haha!

I discovered Neil Peart and Rush back in 1994, when I was still in high school.  The first Rush recording that I ever heard was their "A Show Of Hands" live album.  Since then, I got hooked.  And I was so into Neil Peart's intelligently-crafted and technically-challenging drum parts.

Neil Peart is not only a huge drumming and musical influence.  I also picked up a lot from his wisdom and philosophies in life.  The man is a genius.  I find great inspiration from his lyrical work (he writes the lyrics of most of Rush's songs).  He's a man who lives with such great passion; a man who doesn't live life as a spectator. 

"Just what is it about Peart that allowed him to accomplish so much?  Ask anyone who has spent time with the man.  They'll all give you the same answer.  Neil has a deep passion, a fire, for what he does (It's been a favorite topic in his lyric writing).  No great artist achieves without it." --- William F. Miller on Neil Peart, Modern Drummer, September 2002.

He did experience those tragedies back during the mid-90's (he lost his daughter and his wife, who both died within a span of one year).  Those are devastating losses, and it was a time of darkness and uncertainty for Neil Peart.  But I'm glad that he's able to return with Rush and playing drums again, after overcoming all that tragedy.

I still have more to say hahaha...  I'll post my favorite Neil Peart drum performances next time.  8-)



Neil Peart's Official Website --- http://www.neilpeart.net/
Title: Re: Neil Peart appreciation thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 22, 2008, 05:43:49 AM
I heard that Neil wrote a book, I'm wondering if it was released? I think it's about his motorcycle travels after his family had an accident...

yup, Ghost Rider ang title.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 22, 2008, 05:50:42 AM
@jefisipbata

Thanks man, I will try to research on the GhostRider book, I think it will be a great read..

@drumster

me also sir, "Show of Hands" was my first Rush album, I was in high school back then in the early 90s

It served as a springboard for me to research on other earlier Rush albums...

Until now I'm still hooked  :-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 22, 2008, 08:01:48 AM
eto pala full title

Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road. la pa ko makita sa torrent e.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 22, 2008, 08:30:43 AM
eto pala full title

Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road. la pa ko makita sa torrent e.

ah ok bro thanks. nice book title. will try to find one, sana meron sa National Book Store or Power Books( yea right... :-D)..

Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 22, 2008, 08:34:04 AM
ah ok bro thanks. nice book title. will try to find one, sana meron sa National Book Store or Power Books( yea right... :-D)..



gudluk, dati pa ko naghahanap ng hardcopy pero wala e. 3 yrs ago un. hehehhe. pero sana meron na ngayon. post ka pag meron at nang makabili din..
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 22, 2008, 08:46:10 AM
gudluk, dati pa ko naghahanap ng hardcopy pero wala e. 3 yrs ago un. hehehhe. pero sana meron na ngayon. post ka pag meron at nang makabili din..

yup sure thing bro!

all rush songs are are my favorites, but right now I love to listen other than the more popular songs like Tom Sawyer, Freewill, Red Barchetta, Closer to the Heart are the more intriguing ones like Jacob's Ladder, Beneath, Between and Behind and the 80's era I think, Camera Eye and the Test for Echo album..

I love Neil Peart's drumming because aside from complex, it's natural...more like, it's a part of the song, all aspects of the rhythmic structure contributes to the songs.

I dig this thread, haven't seen anything like this at Guitar Central  :-D Kokonti lang siguro naka rinig or fans of Alex Lifeson, haven't checked bassplace though, Geddy Lee thread or something..Anyway, Long Live Rush!!!  :-D
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 22, 2008, 08:55:03 AM
yup sure thing bro!

all rush songs are are my favorites, but right now I love to listen other than the more popular songs like Tom Sawyer, Freewill, Red Barchetta, Closer to the Heart are the more intriguing ones like Jacob's Ladder, Beneath, Between and Behind and the 80's era I think, Camera Eye and the Test for Echo album..

I love Neil Peart's drumming because aside from complex, it's natural...more like, it's a part of the song, all aspects of the rhythmic structure contributes to the songs.

I dig this thread, haven't seen anything like this at Guitar Central  :-D Kokonti lang siguro naka rinig or fans of Alex Lifeson, haven't checked bassplace though, Geddy Lee thread or something..Anyway, Long Live Rush!!!  :-D

nice, dami ko natutunan dito, noob lng talaga ko pagdating sa rush e. wala ko masyado alam. ung 2112 nalaman ko lang sa interview nung drummer ng killswitch engage, fave daw nya mga tom fills dun. hirap din kase makahanap ng music nila dati, halos lahat ng rush songs ko, extracted lang sa mga videos nila sa youtube e, tska download sa torrent. idol din si geddy lee, hirap nung ginagawa nya, although di ko pa masyado trip boses nya, namulat kase ko sa growl e.hehe..
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 22, 2008, 09:13:23 AM
nice, dami ko natutunan dito, noob lng talaga ko pagdating sa rush e. wala ko masyado alam. ung 2112 nalaman ko lang sa interview nung drummer ng killswitch engage, fave daw nya mga tom fills dun. hirap din kase makahanap ng music nila dati, halos lahat ng rush songs ko, extracted lang sa mga videos nila sa youtube e, tska download sa torrent. idol din si geddy lee, hirap nung ginagawa nya, although di ko pa masyado trip boses nya, namulat kase ko sa growl e.hehe..

yup understandable yan bro, Rush was on the limelight  70s era along with other progressive rock and rock bands like Kansas, Yes, Uriah Heep, Led Zeppelin, Whitesnake ang tataas ng mga boses nila so ngayon nag evolve ang na vocal styles until ngayon iba na naman like the growls and it keeps on evolving....

anyway man, I hope we will have the opportunity to see Neil Peart and Rush here in the Philippines in the future...

or kahit man lang clinic ni Neil Peart, aatend talaga ako  :-D

 
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 22, 2008, 09:33:42 AM
drum clinic? oo nga noh, sabian cymbals nya dibal sana madala ng yupangco dito yan... lupit nun...

OT: astig ang yes, fan ako ni chris squire
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 22, 2008, 09:51:33 AM
grabe pala no, nung na accident yung family ni Neil, I read in Guitar Player na ilang years din sila nag hiatus...that's why I'm interested in his book, gusto kong mabasa yung  soul searching nya, how he coped up and eventually got back on stage..

not only is he a great drummer, but there are lots to learn about life from this drum great, well, as well as the other rock icons too.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 22, 2008, 09:55:47 AM
yup, sobrang tragic. actually yung anak nya ang naaksidente, then after 10 months namatay wife nya due to cancer. kakapraning talaga yun. after that, nawala sya sa band and yun, bumili sya ng BMW na bike, tpos nag road trip. dun nya nagawa yung book. galing nga e, kung yung iba yun, nag suicide na. grabe nga yung interview nya sa modern drummer, kahit di ko pa kilala rush nun, naging instant fan ako ni neil peart.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 22, 2008, 10:52:50 AM
yup, sobrang tragic. actually yung anak nya ang naaksidente, then after 10 months namatay wife nya due to cancer. kakapraning talaga yun. after that, nawala sya sa band and yun, bumili sya ng BMW na bike, tpos nag road trip. dun nya nagawa yung book. galing nga e, kung yung iba yun, nag suicide na. grabe nga yung interview nya sa modern drummer, kahit di ko pa kilala rush nun, naging instant fan ako ni neil peart.

di ko ma imagine pag nangyari sa akin yun..it's a good thing naiintindihan din ng other members until na naka recover si Neil..dito mo makita na di lang sila bandmates pero family na rin..
Kaya pala merong song sa Vapor Trails na "Ghostrider" dun nanggaling sa experience ni Peart....
Speaking of books, Peart is also a big fan of Ayn Rand, na scan ko books niya minsan Rush na rush ang dating.

Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on January 22, 2008, 04:02:15 PM
dami ko rin natutunan sa rush syempre musically, yng interplay nilang tatlo at yung pag appreciate sa odd meters-- naging acquired taste para sa akin dahil predominantly feel player ako, nakakapag construct ang rush ng mga kanta at passages na ginagamit ang mga odd meters pero di mo napapansin dahil sobrang astig ng areglo like subdivisions at free will.

pati yng objectivist philiosophy ni rand na curious din ako, so umiskor ako ng fountain head at anthem at medyo nagkaroon ako ng perspective sa lyrical approach ni neil peart at least dun sa mga earlier rush songs tuald ng anthem at 2112 suite.  medyo appealing nga ang objectivist/libertarian world view kung ang babanda ka or involved ka sa arts, dahil pinapahalagahan nito ang individualism at personal freedom kesa sa mga institutions at regimented ways and means of  making a living at least yun yung pagkakaintindi ko.

cguro kung naging fan ako ng motley crue dahil sa masyado akong naive nung kabataan ko, magiging curious ako kung paano gumawa ng cocain-heroin cocktail or speedball hehehe     :evil:

   
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on January 23, 2008, 06:01:25 AM
It would be a dream come true for me to see Neil Peart in person, performing live with Rush.  I wish for that to happen someday, while Rush is still active, and still alive and rocking.  Neil Peart rarely does drum clinics.  He's got this reputation for being a very private person.  After the family tragedy he experienced, Peart doesn't prefer doing interviews, especially when it involves questions about the tragedy and his personal life.  Which is why during Rush presscons, it's Geddy Lee and Alex Lifeson who face the media.

Neil Peart's works with Rush are must-hears for every aspiring drummer.  Here's a list of some of my favorite Neil Peart drumming performances with Rush, and some of my personal thoughts.


Song (Album, Year)

Limelight (Moving Pictures, 1981) - This is probably my most favorite Rush song.  Every part of this song is so well-crafted.  Time signature shifts from 4 to7 to 6 to 3 and so on, yet Neil's drum parts are smoothly executed.  This song is so fun to play.

Bravado (Roll The Bones, 1991) - Neil played a 16th-note groove in this song, which is reminiscent of U2's classic 16-beat grooves.  I love how the drum parts build up as the song progresses.  This track also reflects Neil's muscular drumming style.

The Big Money (Power Windows, 1985) - This is the very first Rush song I ever heard, and I first heard it on their 1988 live album A Show Of Hands.  This song is a perfect example of how Neil utilized his huge drumkit, with all the bells and whistles (cowbells, electronic drums, and plenty of toms).  His Carl Palmer-inspired snare drum rolls at the song's outro is classic stuff.

Subdivisions (Signals, 1982) - I also first heard this on the A Show Of Hands live album, and this is one of the first Rush songs I attempted to play along with.  Another technically powerful drum performance, with lots of interesting syncopated drum patterns played over the odd-time verses.

Prime Mover (Hold Your Fire, 1987) - I just love this song.  Every part was a technical piece, yet it fits the song perfectly.  How I wished I was the one who thought of these drum parts haha!

Lock And Key (Hold Your Fire, 1987) - This is a fine example of Neil Peart's power drumming.  Check out the drum solo near the end of the song.

Tai Shan (Hold Your Fire, 1987) - This is a fine example of Neil's creative use of electronic drums and China cymbals.

The Color Of Right (Test For Echo, 1996) - This is a simple song based on Neil Peart's standards.  But it just feels so right, it's inspiring, and this is another fun song to play.

YYZ (Moving Pictures, 1981) - I often played this classic Rush instrumental with my old prog-rock band back in college, and it was always a challenge to nail down Neil's power grooves and extended drum fills.  Up until now, this song makes me sweat so much.

Tom Sawyer (Moving Pictures, 1981) - This is Rush's most popular song, and this is Neil Peart's signature song.  He did it all here!


That's all for now.  More from me next time...  8-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: Indie_Boy on January 23, 2008, 06:42:40 AM
hands down to Mr. Neil Peart and the rest of the guys..

it's "a show of hands" & "presto" for me :wink:
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 23, 2008, 08:09:51 AM
dami ko rin natutunan sa rush syempre musically, yng interplay nilang tatlo at yung pag appreciate sa odd meters-- naging acquired taste para sa akin dahil predominantly feel player ako, nakakapag construct ang rush ng mga kanta at passages na ginagamit ang mga odd meters pero di mo napapansin dahil sobrang astig ng areglo like subdivisions at free will.

pati yng objectivist philiosophy ni rand na curious din ako, so umiskor ako ng fountain head at anthem at medyo nagkaroon ako ng perspective sa lyrical approach ni neil peart at least dun sa mga earlier rush songs tuald ng anthem at 2112 suite.  medyo appealing nga ang objectivist/libertarian world view kung ang babanda ka or involved ka sa arts, dahil pinapahalagahan nito ang individualism at personal freedom kesa sa mga institutions at regimented ways and means of  making a living at least yun yung pagkakaintindi ko.

cguro kung naging fan ako ng motley crue dahil sa masyado akong naive nung kabataan ko, magiging curious ako kung paano gumawa ng cocain-heroin cocktail or speedball hehehe     :evil:

   

I love this thread!! I learned a lot really :-D finally I have bros to talk to about Rush...

yup odd meters minsan nga straight 4/4s lang done with taste and disguise pero I don't know, but it's still progressive.....IMHO it's the same approach done by Queensryche..it fits the song na walang overplay, check out the songs "The Thin Line" or "Silent Lucidity" from the Empire album. I believe this approach is also done by Pink Floyd, albums like "Dark Side of the Moon" and "The Wall" yun nga lang medyo iba ang message ng mga songs pero we can see na it's difficult to keep it simple but very progressive pa rin.

Yup personal freedom and individuality is very dominant in Rush Lyrics, from the song Subdvisions that lyric phrase which I love "In the High School halls, in the shopping malls, conform or be cast out".  haaay makabasa na nga ulit ng mga lyrics!!

@drumster

Thanks for the insights in a drummer's perspective sir, surely magbabad na naman ako ngayon with Rush songs  :-D
Yup, na notice ko nga kahit sa mga live concerts, napaka serious ni Peart, yung dalawa eh nag kekenkoy na pero si Peart nakayuko lang while playing with his kits.

Yup Tom Sawyer grabe, one of the most difficult songs to play, nalaglag ako sa kama when I saw the DVD Rush in Rio tapos ginawa nilang intro, I was totally blown away.

One of my dream gigs aside from seeing them play live and playing my own tunes, is to play covers of all of Rush songs. Been listening to some fusion stuff lately but because of this thread parang gusto kong sumifra ulit ng mga Rush songs  :-D






Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on January 23, 2008, 02:50:08 PM
jam tayo minsan ng rush songs mga bro :)

i played bass in a garageband in when i was in college and we tried to do justice to "Tom Sawyer", "Distant Early Warning", "YYZ", "Anthem", "A Passage to Bangkok", "Farewell To kings" etc... along with a couple of covers from Blue Oyster Cult, Stooges, MC5 and Kansas--we sucked but it would be fun to try and play these tunes again with guys that are as passionate about them as i am :)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 23, 2008, 03:17:56 PM
jam tayo minsan ng rush songs mga bro :)

i played bass in a garageband in when i was in college and we tried to do justice to "Tom Sawyer", "Distant Early Warning", "YYZ", "Anthem", "A Passage to Bangkok", "Farewell To kings" etc... along with a couple of covers from Blue Oyster Cult, Stooges, MC5 and Kansas--we sucked but it would be fun to try and play these tunes again with guys that are as passionate about them as i am :)

yeah that will be lots of fun, basta hindi tayo busy, mag sked tayo!  puro Rush lahat  :-)

I was hooked into transcribing Rush songs last June 2007 up to August 2007 pero nahinto kasi aside from taking care and following up of my kid's sped class, I was looking forward to pay attention to my chops and some familiarization with scales that I want to study. Sometimes I just juggle it up with my priorities, medyo mahirap unlike before na single ako and all I do and think about is how to get better on the guitar.

By the way mga kapatid na tambolista, ano yung tawag sa percussion na ginagamit ni Neil Peart sa intro ng "Passage to Bangkok?". I believe Mike Portnoy is also using it a lot...I like that sound.

Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on January 24, 2008, 02:24:14 AM
By the way mga kapatid na tambolista, ano yung tawag sa percussion na ginagamit ni Neil Peart sa intro ng "Passage to Bangkok?". I believe Mike Portnoy is also using it a lot...I like that sound.



Those are cowbells, which are configured as one set, similar to this one --- http://www.lpmusic.com/Product_Showcase/Cowbells/lp_dry_agogo_set.html .  But on the recorded version of "A Passage To Bangkok" (from the 2112 album), he didn't use these.  I think he only uses those cowbells on its live version, particularly on their 1981 live album "Exit... Stage Left".  He also melodically played these cowbells on his Rhythm Method drum solo, which was clearly seen on the "A Show Of Hands" video.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: rodney vidanes on January 25, 2008, 03:23:59 AM
this is a nice thread  :-)

sa kin din talaga Neil Peart is on the top list of drummers. he really rocks but he can also deliver a touch of jazz in his playing. hindi siya nakakasawang panoorin at pakinggan. there's always something new especially every album; he always has something special to offer. napakagaling!

kahit hindi ako drummer he inspires me a lot, just by listening to every beat and pound he expresses and even just by reading his interviews about their (Rush) perspective in music and how the world today has lost the integrity of music among new acts and producers who don't care much about craftmanship anymore (galing mismo sa bibig ni Lee, LIfeson and Peart).

when you hear Peart, there's really a signature to his sound. you'd truly recognize who's sitting behind the drums...there's something in his drum rolls that excites me everytime i hear his utmost playing.  :-)

by the way, available ba sa mga music stores dito ang Snakes and Arrows?
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 25, 2008, 07:25:12 AM

Those are cowbells, which are configured as one set, similar to this one --- http://www.lpmusic.com/Product_Showcase/Cowbells/lp_dry_agogo_set.html .  But on the recorded version of "A Passage To Bangkok" (from the 2112 album), he didn't use these.  I think he only uses those cowbells on its live version, particularly on their 1981 live album "Exit... Stage Left".  He also melodically played these cowbells on his Rhythm Method drum solo, which was clearly seen on the "A Show Of Hands" video.

this is also what I like about Neil. All those little percussions add to that certain character to his solos, it reminds me of a marching band.

Those "vibes" sound alike percussions are also great to listen at in his "Rhythm Method" drum solo, he has that jazz big band influence that you will hear when all those sequenced I think? brass section comes in somewhere near the end of that solo..very melodic approach to drum solos indeed.

@rodney

 yup ako rin gitarista but there's something about Neil na gusto ko na ma infuence ako....he is such a driving force.

We can see such integrity in them even in their videos, kahit videos lang talagang mabigat, very straightforward, no MTV infuence..

Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: jefisipbata on January 25, 2008, 07:29:16 AM
@rodney

 yup ako rin gitarista but there's something about Neil na gusto ko na ma infuence ako....he is such a driving force.

We can see such integrity in them even in their videos, kahit videos lang talagang mabigat, very straightforward, no MTV infuence..



eto yung malupit kay peart, even non-drummers appreciates him. Para sken ganyan ang definition nang isang musician.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 25, 2008, 08:07:35 AM
by the way, available ba sa mga music stores dito ang Snakes and Arrows?

will try to check this weekend if it's available at music stores, the last time I checked, I think that was 3 months ago, wala pa.

I will also attempt to find Neil Peart's Ghostrider book at local bookstores, sana meron... :-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on January 29, 2008, 03:08:10 AM
I want to share a Neil Peart-related blog that I wrote last year.  I shared some of my thoughts about Neil Peart's Fear Trilogy.  For me, it's one of the most profound Peart lyrical compositions.  I learned a lot from his ideas about fear.

http://anthonydio.multiply.com/journal/item/106/Fear

 8-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: AlienHipHop38 on January 30, 2008, 12:39:03 PM
Neil Peart is one of rock music's legend... His chops are crisp and clean. He also plays in big bands. More importantly,like MP,an inspiration of the next generation of drummers. :mrgreen:
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 30, 2008, 01:39:20 PM
I want to share a Neil Peart-related blog that I wrote last year.  I shared some of my thoughts about Neil Peart's Fear Trilogy.  For me, it's one of the most profound Peart lyrical compositions.  I learned a lot from his ideas about fear.

http://anthonydio.multiply.com/journal/item/106/Fear

 8-)

thanks for sharing sir drumster, that was some food for thought, oo nga no, I never really looked at it that way.

It really motivated me to be more proactive for a start.  :-)

From now  I make it a point to read the lyrics while listening to the music of Rush, that way I can understand the songs with more depth.

Anyway, I  forgot what magazine was that but it was about  Rush actually being named as Musicians of the Millenium, I forgot the details..



Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on January 31, 2008, 12:42:27 PM
medyo ot mga bro but if you want to hear neil's drumming on the rush demos for power windows
astig din, demo stage pa lang kick-ass na :), this is from a rush fan site

http://www.rushisaband.com/display.php?id=1341
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on January 31, 2008, 10:41:44 PM
wwwoooowwww!!!! andito pala kayo mga kapatid kong RUSH fans hehe...hugggsss!!!...mwah mwah ...ahihihih!!!

I haven't read all the post here but I am about to while I download
those cool demos.

anyway ganito istorya ko pano ka nadiskubra mga hinayupak sa galing na trio na to hehe..

around the late 80's
may nabili akong slow rock selections sa bangketa nung college days ko sa baguio
kasi andun yung kanta ng boston "more than a feeling", tumatambol na ko nun,
tapos may narinig akong count off....
"bushssssrrrrrgggggg!....A modern-day warrior
Mean mean stride,
Todays tom sawyer
Mean mean pride."....aba naknang tao! first
bar pa lang na love at first hear ako......puts....astig to!!! hanep sarap ng palo!!!
puts ganda ng areglo......waaaahhhh hirap nung bagsakan nila sa gitna!!!,.......waaaaahhhh!!!
RUSH i love i  love!!!.......bow bow hail hail!! immediate fan ako and went out bought as much rush album i could get hold mga lemyak na cassette tapes pa nun hehe.

favorite rush album would always be ...moving pictures
lahat ng side A nyan pinag-aralan ko and luckily I formed a band and played tom sawyer
on my very first rock gig hehe what a start kahit gagu yung technician at mga organizer LoL!
nabigla ata masyado RUSH agad pondo namin hehe.

btw - tnx for those demo links RJJ!
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on January 31, 2008, 11:14:59 PM
medyo ot mga bro but if you want to hear neil's drumming on the rush demos for power windows
astig din, demo stage pa lang kick-ass na :), this is from a rush fan site

http://www.rushisaband.com/display.php?id=1341

hey bro thanks for sharing! galing nito kahit demos pa lang..

@cs mapper

grabe Rush kaagad funds nyo? kainggit naman....yan din yung effect sa akin nung first time kong narinig yung Rush, it was YYZ then, Tom Sawyer.

the first thing that grabbed my attention was  Neil Peart's drumming, It was the most intense music I have ever heard kasi that time way back in high school ( late 80s to early 90s) I was into glam rock like Poison, Warrant...

I was hooked ever since...tama nga yung sabi sa Working Man tribute to Rush na album. It has become the soundtrack of their lives, yan ang nangyari sa akin hehehe...

Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on January 31, 2008, 11:47:07 PM
Thanks for sharing that link, bro rjj!  I'm listening to the demo tracks right now.  It's interesting to hear the Power Windows tracks in its raw state.  And I agree... Demos pa lang, mismo na!  And Rush is reputable for being always ahead of their time, taking advantage of the latest technology.  This is a well-done demo, considering that Power Windows was released in 1985.

Power Windows is one of my favorite Rush studio albums.  My favorite songs from this album are The Big Money, Grand Designs, Marathon, and Middletown Dreams.  The 80's are what most fans describe as Rush's "synthesizer era".  And during this time, Neil incorporated electronics in his massive drum set-up.  The 80's albums are great examples of Neil showing his creativity with electronic percussion.  Some good examples:  The Big Money (Power Windows), Mystic Rhythms (Power Windows), Red Sector A (Grace Under Pressure), Red Lenses (Grace Under Pressure), Force Ten (Hold Your Fire), Tai Shan (Hold Your Fire), Scars (Presto).

By the way, the melodic tom groove on Scars is also the same pattern Neil Peart uses on the electronic portion of his famous drum solos.

 8-)



I was hooked ever since...tama nga yung sabi sa Working Man tribute to Rush na album. It has become the soundtrack of their lives, yan ang nangyari sa akin hehehe...


Amen to that!  I share the same sentiment.  :-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 01, 2008, 02:11:47 AM

iba tlga dating ng rush. i'm really glad fate led me to that pirated hissy cassette tape
containing a live version of tom sawyer na bitin pamo dahil nag fade out
sya dun sa bagsakan part hehe tapos yun pamo ginamit ko pang-sifra
aba eh kalahati lang pala nasipra ko ng marining ko na yung buung moving
picture album. tapos yung "a show of hands" hehe tuwa ako may drum solo
sya at sa unang dinig sus marya medyo natawa ako at the same time
nabigla na pwede pala patunugin ng ganon mga cowbells hahaha parang kenkoy
sya pero malupit sarap tlga pakinggan paulit ulit. parang may sense of humor at well arrange yung
mga drum solo ni neil and yet he comfied that he finds drumming so damn hard to do
though he makes it looks so easy.

nung kapanahunan ko  hirap maghanap ng mga basic infos sa rush bukod sa mga albums kasi ala pa internet ni cell phones ala pa nun LOL!
mga lumang modern drummer mags or guitar or bass mags na minsan may mga rush articles
na paulit ulit kong binabasa. kahit sino sa kanilang tatlo  binabasa ko pero sympre mas ok kung si papa
neil ang dumadakdak hehe. ngayon eh google mo lang andyan na buong istorya ng rush sa wikipedia
at pwede mo download lahat ng albums nila for free hehe..rush torrents kayo dyan LOL!

rush music also helped heal some wounds since my 1st bandmates after some years developing each other talent where stolen from me by this jerks who promised them club gigs or whatever. so instead of feeling sorry for myself i simply kept on studying and transcribing neil peart's
drum parts even though there's no real future  playing some of it with a new band. atleast
rush music kept me in good condition, emotionally and mentally while learning new stuff from them until i got a new rockin band but unfortunately no rush music in the menu but that's ok
coz it was a new era and new music to explore and other bands and drummers to discover old and new.

yeah i was lucky to play tom sawyer live at least once in one college concert and some few more times
on bday gigs and club attacks, yung jam kayo sa club para lagayan yung nakapwestong banda
na mukhang sisiw tumugtog LOL! ...mga kabulastagan namin nun hehe.

pero nakakapagod tlga tumogtog ng rush songs. tom sawyer palang eh nangayayat ako tlga lol
kaya mga idol tlga mga rush kasi hanggang ngayon unpretentious, honest, artistic, totally uncompromising band that stood the test of time. kahit matanda na sila hanep pa rin
tumogtog.

tapos dumating bigla dream theater,,,, yay! pero  kahit ano pa gawin nila iba pa rin yung tatlong  lolo ng progressive rock... iba pa rin music ng rush...malayang malaya at nagpapalawak ng kaisipan...oh ROLL THE BONES...hehe ...RUSH RULES!!!!

hay sensya na mga rush bros napasobra dakdak ko.
inspired lang me after reading all the post here.

anyway marami pa tayong pwede pagusapan sa rush lalu na kay papa neil nung time
na magbigay pugay sya sa kanyang idol dun sa buddy rich memorial concert hehe...di daw sya kuntento
sa performance nya dun hehe somehow it did showed a little...hehe...tulog muna ko lol!
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on February 01, 2008, 07:09:12 AM
I love the 80s era of Rush!! Neil Peart's use of electronic drums feels like he's making his kits sing and it even contributes a lot to the heaviness in their songs, I mean if we attempted to play Big Money or The Mission without those electronic percussions there, kulang na kulang...

Hey fellow Rush and Neil Peart advocates, dont forget also aside from the heavy music and the thought provoking lyrics, the great and virtuostic album covers!! progressive and evolving ang dating.


Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 01, 2008, 02:48:32 PM
^ Oh yeah!  Rush's album artworks are excellent conversation pieces.  Neil Peart has collaborated closely with keyboard player and artist Hugh Syme for most of Rush's artworks.  Here's a page from the Power Windows Rush Tribute Site which talks in detail about all of these.  And as a bonus, all the pictures can be downloaded and used as your desktop wallpaper.  Enjoy!  8-)

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/Wallpaper.htm
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on February 02, 2008, 09:49:46 AM
^ Oh yeah!  Rush's album artworks are excellent conversation pieces.  Neil Peart has collaborated closely with keyboard player and artist Hugh Syme for most of Rush's artworks.  Here's a page from the Power Windows Rush Tribute Site which talks in detail about all of these.  And as a bonus, all the pictures can be downloaded and used as your desktop wallpaper.  Enjoy!  8-)

http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/Wallpaper.htm

wow this is very nice!!! thanks for sharing sir! I downloaded the desktop theme of Power Windows, since among the many, this is one of my favorite album covers.

It's all about explaining life in a very creative and yet logical way...you'd go "oo nga no??!!"

The album covers in my opinion can be considered as expensive paintings in art galleries and museums.

Anyway, I have to find time to read all the thoughts behind the creation of these album covers, dapat dito? in your siesta mode ka where all you have to do in a day is to sit down and relax and just be an avid Rush fan.

As of now, the Power Windows site  is my favorite site, along with this thread also  :-D


 
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ZeF on February 02, 2008, 10:55:08 PM
woohooo..!!! i love rush... i love neil... :)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 03, 2008, 09:12:02 PM
rush rush rush.......rush i d....hehe...

btw totoo bang minsan eh binibisikleta lang ni neil peart
yung susunod na lugar kung saan sila tutugtog?

o nag cycling trip lang tlga sya minsan during off season tours?
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 04, 2008, 04:59:43 AM
^ Yes sir, totoo yan.  When they're on a road tour, instead of riding the bus, he goes to the next city by bike.  Neil Peart loves road trips, whether it's biking, motorcycling, or driving a sportscar.  Neil is a well-travelled man, and he had biking trips on places like China and West Africa.

He's into physical activities such as biking, hiking and skiing.  I remember Neil mentioning in his old Modern Drummer interviews that he isn't sluggish when it comes to physical activities.  In fact, he loves physical exertion.  And he said he got that from drumming.  8-)


*****


I found the old thread about Rush's latest album, "Snakes And Arrows".  Here's the link --- http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,40330.0.html .

And here's the thread which talks about Neil Peart's new Sabian Paragon DiamondbackChinese cymbal, which was used on the said album --- http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,54191.0.html .
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 05, 2008, 12:23:18 AM
wow that's so cool! neil peart is simply a great great great man.
kita ko kasi dun sa isang rush ad sa mga lumang md may hawak na bike si neil na fully
geared for travelling sa harap ng touring bus nila kaya wow really
cool to know he really loves epics bycicle rides just the way their epic band is hehe. Much tnx for the info Sir Drumster hehe.

seems God gave him the ultimate test though...and yet he conquered it
extremely well. Such  a strong man deep inside. I wonder if he found a new love now, personally that is?

one of my drum mentor for some reason hates Neil, his band and his drumming. Well seems he hates guys that are simply uncompromising well that's his problem. Glad I don't have to suck up to this guy anymore just to get recommended on bands with music I really hate.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 05, 2008, 12:34:56 AM
I wonder if he found a new love now, personally that is?

Yes.  After going through the tragedy, Neil re-married.


"On August 10, 1997, Peart's daughter and only child, 19-year-old Selena Taylor, was killed in a single-car accident on the 401 highway near the town of Brighton, Ontario. His common-law wife of 22 years, Jaqueline Taylor, succumbed to cancer only 10 months later on June 20, 1998. Peart, however, maintains that her death was the result of a "broken heart" and called it "a slow suicide by apathy. She just didn't care."

In his book Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road, Peart writes of how he had told his bandmates at Selena's funeral, "consider me retired."[11] Peart took a hiatus to mourn and reflect, during which time he traveled extensively throughout North America on his BMW motorcycle, covering 88,000 km (55,000 miles). At some point in his journey, Peart decided to return to the band. Peart wrote Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road as a chronicle of his geographical and emotional journey.

While visiting long-time Rush photographer Andrew MacNaughtan in Los Angeles, MacNaughtan would play matchmaker and introduce Peart to his future wife, photographer Carrie Nuttall. Peart married Nuttall on September 9, 2000.

In early 2001, Peart announced to his bandmates that he was ready to return to recording and performing. The product of the band's return was the 2002 album Vapor Trails. At the start of the ensuing tour in support of the album, it was decided amongst the band members that Peart would not take part in the daily grind of press interviews and "Meet and Greet" sessions upon their arrival in a new city that typically monopolize a touring band's daily schedule. While Peart has always shied away from these types of in-person encounters, it was decided that having to needlessly expose him to an endless stream of questions about the tragic events of his life was quite unnecessary."


- from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_peart)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 05, 2008, 01:13:12 AM
tsaka iba tlga mga drum solo si Papa Neil.
Oo di ganun kahirap at technically demanding gaya ng pinag-gagawa
nila Virgil Donati, Derek Roddy, Dave Weckl, Mike Mangini, Jojo Mayers or Neil's idol...Buddy Rich...
as in sarap tlga pakinggan na parang nakakarelax pa.
Well thought drum solo indeed.

Anyway I'm glad for some reason I tend to change world easily during
my woodshedding days from rush to led zeppelin to deep purple during my
play along time.

Pag rush dapat tlga note for note kasi super sagwa tlga pag nag-improvise ka sa music nila for some reason lalu na pag tom swayer,
subdivision, freewill, spirit of radio and yyz hehe.

Sa led zep at deep purple songs...ah it's ok to strech and improvise a little on their songs and it's a different world for me something i always wanted to conquer and develop through all the years
I've played drums on and off.

So seeing Neil playing jazz feels kinda wierd for me now while years and years ago
when I was still a newbie drummer ok lang basta importante andun si Neil dun sa Buddy Rich Memorial concert. My drum mentor was laughing out loud telling me how stiff and stupid he sounded during his set. deep inside I was so furious I wanted to kick him off his house hehe. Well i kept cool and thought that
may be someday I might really understand why my drum mentor was so harsh on Neil's attempt to play some jazz music. Now I know...yet I'll keep that for myself hehe.

So I think I'll check my drum mentor now
if he can actually play some old school jazz and this time I'll be the one laughing out load if he can't nail my jazz drumming expectations hehe.


Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 05, 2008, 01:19:16 AM
Yes.  After going through the tragedy, Neil re-married.

"On August 10, 1997, Peart's daughter and only child, 19-year-old Selena Taylor, was killed in a single-car accident on the 401 highway near the town of Brighton, Ontario. His common-law wife of 22 years, Jaqueline Taylor, succumbed to cancer only 10 months later on June 20, 1998. Peart, however, maintains that her death was the result of a "broken heart" and called it "a slow suicide by apathy. She just didn't care."

In his book Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road, Peart writes of how he had told his bandmates at Selena's funeral, "consider me retired."[11] Peart took a hiatus to mourn and reflect, during which time he traveled extensively throughout North America on his BMW motorcycle, covering 88,000 km (55,000 miles). At some point in his journey, Peart decided to return to the band. Peart wrote Ghost Rider: Travels on the Healing Road as a chronicle of his geographical and emotional journey.

While visiting long-time Rush photographer Andrew MacNaughtan in Los Angeles, MacNaughtan would play matchmaker and introduce Peart to his future wife, photographer Carrie Nuttall. Peart married Nuttall on September 9, 2000.

In early 2001, Peart announced to his bandmates that he was ready to return to recording and performing. The product of the band's return was the 2002 album Vapor Trails. At the start of the ensuing tour in support of the album, it was decided amongst the band members that Peart would not take part in the daily grind of press interviews and "Meet and Greet" sessions upon their arrival in a new city that typically monopolize a touring band's daily schedule. While Peart has always shied away from these types of in-person encounters, it was decided that having to needlessly expose him to an endless stream of questions about the tragic events of his life was quite unnecessary."


I think i've read this article first in Modern Drummer haha hirap tlga pag tumatanda na LOL!
oo tama nagasawa na nga pala sya agad hehe good for him and really good for us RUSH fans hehe.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ronnie james jeremy on February 05, 2008, 11:53:59 AM
eto medyo ot ulit mga bro :) to my mind, Rush and obviously Neil Peart's influence on local bands is prevalent in the mid to late 80's.   Case in point:

1. After Image - named after a song in Grace Under Pressure

2. The Dawn - covered Tom Sawyer numerous times (the first time I saw them at Big Bang in Alabang) plus check out the song "Mad Game" in their first album and "Love Will Set Us free" In I stand With You-- to my ears the drumming and arrangement on these songs clearly bear the Rush hallmarks of odd time, sprawling choruses and unison pattern playing.

3. Identity Crisis - had a an instrumental song titled "Anthem" in their debut album which features exotic percussions under an ominous  theme.

i know it sounds like nit picking but it cannot be denied that  Peart and Rush's influence has been assimilated by these bands in some form or another albeit they were manifested in ways that are not very apparent.  did this make any sense ? :)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 05, 2008, 11:48:24 PM
yeah saw the dawn play tom sawyer not once but twice here in pamp hehe astig!

shine - collective soul....play the main hi-hat ala tom sawyer along those bd barks with hihat. parang simplified tom sawyer drum part LOL!
atleast for me.

that's good to know local bands of the late 80's-90's aside the dawn adapted some rush influence without sounding too obviouse. but during this time THE DAWN was the only local band i really love listening to and I was so saddened when the lost Teddy. Randy Rhoads of the Phils afaic. Well, great to know just like RUSH...the dawn still rockin out!
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 14, 2008, 04:15:13 AM
I want to share this online reproduction of Modern Drummer's feature on Neil Peart on their February 1994 issue.  This is a well-written piece done during the height of Rush's 1993 Counterparts album.  I love this article because it reflects so much about Neil Peart's passion, personality and humanity.

Enjoy!  8-)

http://yyz.com/NMS/HTML/articles/md0294.html
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on February 16, 2008, 06:45:09 AM
I want to share this online reproduction of Modern Drummer's feature on Neil Peart on their February 1994 issue.  This is a well-written piece done during the height of Rush's 1993 Counterparts album.  I love this article because it reflects so much about Neil Peart's passion, personality and humanity.

Enjoy!  8-)

http://yyz.com/NMS/HTML/articles/md0294.html

wow!!  :-o THIS IS THE STUFF!! thanks sir Drumster!!  :-D

there could be no better inspiration than reading this article.

I saw Neil wearing a bandana in a drum commercial in Modern Drummer but it never crossed my mind "Does he have cancer?" In fact I think it looks cool! People who conclude that he has cancer without confirming it first are soo weird, in fact,I think lots of people are weird because they do this all the time!  :lol:

I love that story of him going to an African village and trading 4s! with their resident village drummer and villagers by and by danced to the beat..Music is such a universal language...no boundaries...

This article definitely proves it! inspiration for songwriting is everywhere, this is a perfect example of art imitating life.

Anyway, I have to read this article again and again, thanks again for sharing!   





Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 17, 2008, 02:59:08 AM
^ You're welcome!  That is one of my favorite Neil Peart interviews.  I also highly recommend that you read Neil Peart's September 2002 interview on Modern Drummer.  This was one of his rare interviews after his family tragedy and soul-searching journey.  It's a great revelation of how the tragedy changed Neil's life and his outlook, and somehow made him into an even greater and more compassionate human being.  I'll try to look for an online reproduction of that.  The Professor is such a huge inspiration.

About the bandana and shaved head...  Oo nga natawa din ako doon.  Though I thought that was a cruel joke on Neil, speculating that he's dying of cancer.  During that time, shaving heads wasn't the norm, unlike today, it's common for many guys to have the semi-kalbo/skinhead look.  I also shave my head, that's why I also get the chemotherapy jokes haha!  :-D  I also occasionally wear bandanas on some of my gigs, which is another Neil Peart influence that I got.   8-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 17, 2008, 11:14:31 PM
yeah that's an awesome interview might as well read it again on my precious
MD copy of that hehe...kaso nawala ko na ata ito or hiniram ng di ko na alam kung sino...waah!

how old is neil now? (sorry tamad ako magbasa sa rush wiki hehe)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 17, 2008, 11:33:11 PM
"A few years back it seemed as if those things didn't matter anymore, and I felt undercut and genuinely worried. But with this new generation of drummers coming up, I can breathe a huge sigh of relief. Everything's all right!"

......niel's last part of his interview truly show what a unselfish kind o fperson he is appreciating
the new breeds of drummers then.

i wonder if neil is happy with the current new younger drummers now in the new millenium?
are they even really playing the damed drums?
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 18, 2008, 06:23:30 PM
how old is neil now? (sorry tamad ako magbasa sa rush wiki hehe)

Neil Peart is 55 right now.  His birthday is September 12, 1952.


i wonder if neil is happy with the current new younger drummers now in the new millenium?
are they even really playing the damed drums?

He did mention something about the current state of drumming in his September 2002 MD interview.  Particularly, he's not happy with how drumming can be cheated easily nowadays with the use of software and digital tools.  He said something like, if he wants to nail down his drum tracks right, he'd rather re-do his takes with his own blood and sweat, rather than having a computer to correct or polish his parts.  I'll see if I can post some quotes and lines from that interview.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 20, 2008, 07:28:35 PM
now that's a drummer speaking of drumming ethics.
That's why i prefer listening to more raw kind of recordings
like some of pearl jam stuff.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on February 20, 2008, 09:33:43 PM
Okay, here's another Neil Peart interview.....  His first interview with Modern Drummer magazine, April/May 1980 issue.

http://www.andrewolson.com/Neil_Peart/neilpeart_firstinterview.htm

It's interesting to read about Neil's point of view about certain drumming-related things during the early 80's.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: cs_mapper on February 23, 2008, 09:40:21 PM
ayos to! di ko pa ata nabasa to!
hay salamat sa internet!
tnx din sa inyo sir drumster for finding and sharing it here.

---------------------------------------------------------------

NP: To me, it's just the musician's natural environment. I won't say that it's always wonderful, but it's not always awful either. As with anything else, I think it's a more extreme way of life. The rewards are higher, but the negative sides are that much more negative. I think that rule of polarity follows almost every walk of life. The greater the fulfillment that you're looking for, the greater the agony you'll face.

---------------------------------------------------------------

His first answer alone is just mind blowing and exactly true.
I really love this old fart! haha! NP rules!

I don't know but may be it's just my time in life
I'm re-learning my greatest drum idol but not on drums alone this time
but how he thinks and all the rest in that great mind and heart of his.
Like what he said to himself when approaching the Buddy Rich Memorial concert gig. So deep...
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: CDodrummer on February 25, 2008, 07:25:02 PM
I have Neil Peart's Anatomy of a Drum Solo dvd. Ganda nag del trommler solo!
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on February 25, 2008, 07:56:09 PM
Okay, here's another Neil Peart interview.....  His first interview with Modern Drummer magazine, April/May 1980 issue.

http://www.andrewolson.com/Neil_Peart/neilpeart_firstinterview.htm

It's interesting to read about Neil's point of view about certain drumming-related things during the early 80's.

thanks for sharing this article, sir drumster, every interview Neil has is very informative and very educational be it songwriting, drumming, philosophies etc...

nice of Neil to mention Bill Bruford, Nick Mason & Tommy Aldridge, my favorite drummers aside from him.

This interview turn me on to listen to drum sounds a bit more (Neil mentioned about different snare drum sounds and drum materials). It has affected the way I listen to my favorite bands, artists. 

Anyways, I'll be reading this article again, this will also be a nice article to discuss with
fellow Rush advocates!  :-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on May 13, 2008, 03:31:54 AM
Neil Peart has been raving a lot nowadays about his DW gear.

http://www.dwdrums.com/peart/heartandsoul1.html

DW's "The Heart And Soul Of A Drumset" ads with Neil Peart are also featured nowadays on leading drum magazines like Modern Drummer.

Any literary material written by Peart - whether a lyric, a book, a magazine article, or one of his everyday life stories - is always worth reading.  :-)
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on July 02, 2008, 04:16:35 PM
From the August 2008 issue of Modern Drummer magazine...

*****


In Memoriam: JOHN RUTSEY

Rush founding drummer John Rutsey passed away on May 11.  He was fifty five.  Rutsey is best remembered for his playing on Rush's 1974 debut album.  John left the band because he suffered from diabetes and was unable to go on extended tours with the group.

Rutsey was replaced in Rush by Neil Peart, which marked a turning point in the band's sound towards progressive rock.  Rush formed in 1968 in Toronto and was originally composed of guitarist Alex Lifeson, bassist Jeff Jones (who was replaced by Geddy Lee) and Rutsey.

Shortly after leaving Rush, Rutsey gave up drumming to pursue bodybuilding.  Those wishing to pay tribute to the drummer can do so by making a donation to the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation of Ontario.  For more info, go to www.jdrf.ca .


*****


Somehow, if it wasn't for John Rutsey, Neil Peart wouldn't have become Rush's drummer.

May John Rutsey rest in peace.  
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on July 03, 2008, 12:26:22 PM
haven't visited the thread for a while, gosh R.I.P.  John Rutsey great drummer also.

I didn't know Geddy is not an original member of Rush, nice info.

Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: smutdrummer on July 07, 2008, 11:10:42 PM
Neil Peart's Anatomy of a Drum Solo dvd

I got bored!!! meron bang iba dito na pareho ng naramdaman ko? hehehe
or is it just me? i like some of his works though.
1.5 hours of same solo hmmmmm boring


Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on July 08, 2008, 12:22:20 AM
^ Neil Peart's Anatomy Of A Drum Solo dvd generally focuses on Neil Peart's famous drum solo.  So yeah, the whole dvd revolves around Neil's compositional drum solo.  Neil shares his thoughts about it, disects his solo parts, shows how it's done, how everything goes together...

Die-hard fans of Neil Peart and Rush are surely the ones who will appreciate this dvd the most.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: rays on July 09, 2008, 03:48:35 PM
i like neil than any progressive drummer. simple yet coordinated...

the song "between the wheels" made me like him and inspired me as well.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: drumster on July 09, 2008, 08:25:29 PM
^ I never heard anybody describe Neil Peart as simple, until the previous post above.  But I think I understand what you mean.  Perhaps what you meant was, Peart's drumming is arguably simpler compared to the playing of today's technical/progressive masters such as Virgil Donati, Thomas Lang, Marco Minnemann, Danny Carey, or even Mike Portnoy.

Back in the day, I enjoy woodshedding and playing along to Neil Peart's drum parts.  And there's nothing simple about his challenging and physically demanding drum parts.  Well, at least for me.  :-)

Neil Peart set a standard in terms of progressive rock drumming.  It's his creativity and thinking man's approach which makes his drumming special.  Yet, the drum parts he created do fit really well with Rush's style of music.  It's still musically pleasing.   
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: ibysdad on July 10, 2008, 06:52:49 AM
I think this is difficult-- simpler execution of techniques but it remains to be heavy and progressive.

Rush's music tends to be evolving first from the  raw aggressive sounding going to the more modern, simple at least at first if you listen to it, ethereal and still progressive.

Peart's drum solos create that ambient feeling, similar to that when you are inside an art museum or listening to a movie soundtrack! at least that's what I feel, and that's what I crave for. It's not about chops, it's all about being simple and ambient but still heavy and progressive.
Title: Re: The NEIL PEART/RUSH Appreciation Thread
Post by: rays on July 10, 2008, 10:34:42 PM
hehe neil peart style is more conventional than any other progressive drummer. compared to virgil donati and portnoy his showmanship is just enough for their music. he do not overplay most of the time. doesn't sound too technical however, musical perhaps.
Title: Re: NEIL PEART DEAD at 67
Post by: henrytexture on January 11, 2020, 05:55:10 AM
NEIL PEART died of brain cancer (January 7)