Bakit kaya Hihats lang ang naka-MIC sa mga Cymbals??

[sandythedrummer]

I feel there's inbalance sa sound, well feeling ko lang so what i do is i turn off the Hihat condenser. Hassle sound ng groove pag kasing lakas ng Hats yung snare at kick IMO. Chaka dapat kung ganun may dedicated MIC for the Ride too. Well opinion ko lang naman to.

[MacoySIN]

could have used it as a mono overhead mic instead. hi hats bleed enough through everything already. that's the last thing ill be micing if it was me. unless there are very intricate hi hat patterns that need to cut through. 

[makLoy]

masakit na nga sa tenga masyado eh 

[nikogulo]

baka position lang sa mic? theres a certain angle to get a nice warm sound of the hihats. theres also a certain way to mix it to get a nice balanced sound that does not make it painful to listen too

[trasher]

Experience ko before sa demo recording : Mas malakas pa yung hihat sound ko kesa sa Crash, Ride, China, & even kick sound ng drums ko. Tatlong mic lang kasi yung ginamit. Isa for both the snare & hihat, isa sa kick drum, at isa sa overhead. Kaya ang nangyari puro snares at hihat lang ang narinig sa drums ko.

[nikogulo]

Experience ko before sa demo recording : Mas malakas pa yung hihat sound ko kesa sa Crash, Ride, China, & even kick sound ng drums ko. Tatlong mic lang kasi yung ginamit. Isa for both the snare & hihat, isa sa kick drum, at isa sa overhead. Kaya ang nangyari puro snares at hihat lang ang narinig sa drums ko.

live recording? usually ginagawa namin sa Kerplunk ay dalawang overhead, top and bottom snare, and kick..

[el Brutal]

diba kaya nga may equalizer?

[sandythedrummer]

diba kaya nga may equalizer?

Equalizing is not even an issue kapatid.

[nikogulo]

equalizing wont do as much help if the miking is not done properly...in recording the most important is the way you play. that will affect the recording. it could be miked properly and all but if the playing is bad then its useless

[uglyguy]

equalizing wont do as much help if the miking is not done properly...in recording the most important is the way you play. that will affect the recording. it could be miked properly and all but if the playing is bad then its useless

+1,000,000,000,000 (sana ma realize ng iba yan para tumigil na sila sa kasisisi sa tech)

[Diadem]

maraming ding naman nag mmic sa ride dba? esp metal and jazz bands

[axebass26]

AFAIK ang hats and snare kasi kaya iba ang mics kasi nilalagay sa magkaibang channel yan pag recording.  tapos sa mix nalang aayusin ang volume para level ang lahat... sa live naman ang nakikita ko eh 2 overheads sa crash at ride tapos snare and kick/s. pag sosyal yung prod eh lahat mic'd

[karlwilson]

like in this vid the hi-hats isn't mic'd pero cutting pa rin sound niya...siguro kasi naka mastersound hats niya.

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[migs_23]

IMO! if ever hindi naka MIC-IN ang hats. imagine playing it closed....then playing it with the snare nga, also the toms na hindi siya mic-ed in. hmm. parang hirap madinig.imagine a crash!! it cuts through also a ride! . sa tingin. depende sa sizes ng cymbals? ang labo! ewan ko if im being helpful or not! haha!

[nikogulo]

i think it depends on the room, how the mics are positioned, the hihats used and how you play the hihats...

[kssael]

Something helpful:

HIGH - HAT MICS

[skunkyfunk]

Actually, if you wanna capture those stick chicks it would be important to mic the hats.  but open hats can be very harsh if not mixed properly.

IMO, hat mics aren't necessary but if you play some hihat-bombarded lines, they are of big help.

[michael.astigin]

hindi kasiganon kalakas tumunog ang hi hats
another thing is, may mga certain sounds ang hats na sapat mafocusan such at open and close hats beating
lalo na sa mga jazz players

[harugrugrug]

wala silang budget para bumili ng maayus na overhead mic stand,hehe.
pero drumming wise it sucks pag di magaling pumihit sa mix.

[anjoesatriani]

It depends entirely with the sound tech., or audio engr. in the studio, AFAIK, the standard way is 2 overheads(left and right) to capture only the cymbals except the hihats and ride(others use OH for added thwacks on toms), and a mic for hi-hat and ride.

though practically hindi mazezero out yung bleed ng hats and ride sa overhead that's why usually at low volumes dapat ang ride and hat track.

[david_leyson]

Regarding this question madaming consideration, venue, genre kinds on an event, live or recording.

but when it comes to basic setup, all must fall to the 1:1 ratio except for the cymbals, why? of course it's because of the frequency it gives, and also the cymbals doesn't give the beat, it's more of the ambience of the music/song IMO. more likely it gives the release unto once tight rolls and drifts. the hi hats on the other part plays a big role sa dynamics especially the chops and the breaks.

on loud songs mostly you won't pay attention on what the drummer does but try listening on the quiet parts on a song. you'll surely appreciate why hi-hats ay nakaline-in. 

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[Tarkuz Toccata]

i think it depends on the room, how the mics are positioned, the hihats used and how you play the hihats...

This is very true!

[jetskie]

There are many practical reasons for putting a dedicated mic on any part of the kit. For the hihats takes priority because: 

> it is the most often hit among the cymbals. More events/hits can be counted on the hihat, than the kick, snare, toms, crash and rides.

> it's has the least volume when struck. More often than not, the stick is only dropped or bounced on the hat. the stroke is gentle, but with a closed hat,volume is low... compared to the crash and ride, the strike is on these two is harder... you can watch Discovery channel on how much the cymbal practically warps and bends...

> tama ung nag comment re budget. Many opt for the entry level mic kits of 4 pcs. (eh yun lang pera nila eh, kaya wag natin sila la-itin). If you can afford to have the 8-mic drum kit, then congratulations! It may create bleed problems, but there are solutions for that too...

> i have heard engineers who simply amplified the drums using a kick mic, a snare mic, and 2 overheads condensers. I thought he did great job!