Reason's Why Marijuana should/shouldn't be Legalized

[officebiker]

This thread is about opinions on the legalization of marijuana and not sharing the effects of it from your imaginary friends.. di ba u.lul!!??

Ok, first I have the balls to say I'm sorry kung masyado harsh, but I couldn't find any shorter way to say how wrong your statement is... Lets do an analysis, shall we?

well sana hindi sa pinas.. why? most Filipinos are abusers/ do not have discipline and yung tinatawag na 'malasakit'.. it will do more harm than good for the society.. para dun sa mga 'for medical purposes' and nagsasabing me 'control' sila .. nakakakuha naman kayu di ba? wag na lang kayung papahuli..

Can you explain on how you came up with the above statement?
> most Filipinos are abusers - abusers of what?
> do not have discipline and yung tinatawag na 'malasakit' - anong kinalaman ng malasakit sa weed
> it will do more harm than good for the society - dahil?
> para dun sa mga 'for medical purposes' and nagsasabing me 'control' sila .. nakakakuha naman kayu di ba? wag na lang kayung papahuli.. - hindi mo ba naiisip na may matatanda o may mga tao na pwedeng ma cure pero hindi nila alam at wala silang idea para ma access ito?

I'll leave the rest to you, pero eto ha dahil may "imaginary friends" ka pang nalalaman, I'll be more than happy to introduce you to my friends to prove it, but you have to prove din na hindi ka U.LUL... kase yan yung sinabi natin sa isat isat diba?

I'll leave you with a quote from one of my former junkie friend...

"If intellect and intelligence was worshipped as a god, you'll surely be an atheist"

Now am I harsh?

[sonicassault]

Eh anaasar ako eh.. bakit? hehe..   

first, don't accuse someone of something if you yourself did it first. "weh??.. barbero" is neither about the topic nor does it provide a point to discuss (it's about officebiker and his anecdote). and calling out imaginary friends is fcking childish man.

second, don't dish it out if you can't take it. if you find your stuff funny, either you're stuck in junior high school or actually still in it. probably even grade school. grow the fck up.

[sonicassault]

Ok, first I have the balls to say I'm sorry kung masyado harsh, but I couldn't find any shorter way to say how wrong your statement is... Lets do an analysis, shall we?

well sana hindi sa pinas.. why? most Filipinos are abusers/ do not have discipline and yung tinatawag na 'malasakit'.. it will do more harm than good for the society.. para dun sa mga 'for medical purposes' and nagsasabing me 'control' sila .. nakakakuha naman kayu di ba? wag na lang kayung papahuli..

Can you explain on how you came up with the above statement?
> most Filipinos are abusers - abusers of what?
> do not have discipline and yung tinatawag na 'malasakit' - anong kinalaman ng malasakit sa weed
> it will do more harm than good for the society - dahil?
> para dun sa mga 'for medical purposes' and nagsasabing me 'control' sila .. nakakakuha naman kayu di ba? wag na lang kayung papahuli.. - hindi mo ba naiisip na may matatanda o may mga tao na pwedeng ma cure pero hindi nila alam at wala silang idea para ma access ito?

I'll leave the rest to you, pero eto ha dahil may "imaginary friends" ka pang nalalaman, I'll be more than happy to introduce you to my friends to prove it, but you have to prove din na hindi ka U.LUL... kase yan yung sinabi natin sa isat isat diba?

I'll leave you with a quote from one of my former junkie friend...

"If intellect and intelligence was worshipped as a god, you'll surely be an atheist"

Now am I harsh?

I dunno if this guy is a troll man, but he's totally derailing the discussion here, even if only for the lack of merit of the arguments.

[marzi]

What i dont understand is...BAKIT MAS MALALA ANG KASO SA TAONG NAHULIHAN NG MARIJUANA KAYSA TAONG NAHULIHAN NG SHABU, ECSTACY AT IBA PANG DROGANG MAY MAS MALALANG EPEKTO SA LIPUNAN?

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[officebiker]

I dunno if this guy is a troll man, but he's totally derailing the discussion here, even if only for the lack of merit of the arguments.

Akala kase yata ng iba, pag legalized na e, parang sa mga bahay pa rin ang kuhanan, legal lang, at ibabalot mo pa rin sa isang pinilas na pahina ng revelation galing sa maliit na bible. Syempre dadaan sa Congress yan etc. , may sistema at unfortunately magkaka tax na rin. At siguro naman hindi kahit sino e pwedeng kumuha basta basta, syempre may proseso. Kase nag back read ako ng onti, 2006 pa pala to, ang mga comments e "lalo dadami gulo", "lalo dadami ang high". Kung malelegalize yan may sistema naman siguro kahit papano, although dun sa "Super HIgh Me " na movie parang nakakabili din kahit ibang tao na walang sakit. I'm not sure of eveything about it, I admit, kaya kailangan ng extensive study, pero legal na sya sa ibang states sa US diba?

[officebiker]

What i dont understand is...BAKIT MAS MALALA ANG KASO SA TAONG NAHULIHAN NG MARIJUANA KAYSA TAONG NAHULIHAN NG SHABU, ECSTACY AT IBA PANG DROGANG MAY MAS MALALANG EPEKTO SA LIPUNAN?

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Haha noong 90s bro, ganyan nga, mas matagal imprisonment term pag damo nahulli sayo, kaya malakas loob namin noon kase wala pang batas sa tobats noon, pero ang alam ko may bagong batas na e, eto yata parang 2002 lang..

http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/research/Philippines/RA_9165.html

[marzi]

Haha noong 90s bro, ganyan nga, mas matagal imprisonment term pag damo nahulli sayo, kaya malakas loob namin noon kase wala pang batas sa tobats noon, pero ang alam ko may bagong batas na e, eto yata parang 2002 lang..

http://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/research/Philippines/RA_9165.html

Yan nga alam ko noon. Pag nahuling may dala kang damo, mas malala ang kaso mo. Sa US din daw ganun sa ibang states eh. Pag cocaine ok pa, madali bail. Pero pag weed, yari na.

Gusto ko maka try ng cannabis oil tapos gagawin kong tea oil sa bahay hehe. House of Joy!

[sonicassault]

Yan nga alam ko noon. Pag nahuling may dala kang damo, mas malala ang kaso mo. Sa US din daw ganun sa ibang states eh. Pag cocaine ok pa, madali bail. Pero pag weed, yari na.

Gusto ko maka try ng cannabis oil tapos gagawin kong tea oil sa bahay hehe. House of Joy!

iniisip ko baka dahil napakadaling magproduce ng damo. kung meth yan or MDMA, kailangan mo ng lab, equipment. basically parang negosyo na high end. eh ang damo, tubong lugaw. not only that, since madali at madami ang supply, mas malawak ang influence. siguro kaya mas mataas ang penalty sa damo.

[officebiker]

Yan nga alam ko noon. Pag nahuling may dala kang damo, mas malala ang kaso mo. Sa US din daw ganun sa ibang states eh. Pag cocaine ok pa, madali bail. Pero pag weed, yari na.

Gusto ko maka try ng cannabis oil tapos gagawin kong tea oil sa bahay hehe. House of Joy!

I think a friend who makes space cakes from down south uses cannabis oil, March pa ko last umorder e.

On topic, ganito na lang, lets forget  about the previous hullabaloos and talk objectively.
For you guys ano negative at positive sa legalization? I'll start:

Positive:
1. I do not even have to state the obvious fact na napakadaming uses ng hemp, from oils to paper and textile. Since we are an agricultural country maybe we can be a producer in Asia, unless may bad environmental impact.
2. Medicinal - which I do not have enough information on pero, it is pretty much known naman with all the advocacy and may scientific evidence.

Negative:
1. In a country like ours, I think the main negative here is the actual process of trying to legalize it. The religious and moral hypocrites along with the papogi politicos will surely make noise against it. Since the majority sees in a right wing / conservative  perspective it is almost utterly hopeless, honestly.

[Boxedking]

Natatawa ako dun sa butthurt na walang maipang back up sa claims nya.  Sumindi ka muna kaya para kumalma ka.

@Topic
I totally agree with officebiker's comments. Kung ano-anong kalokohang batas ang maiibento ng mga trapo tungkol sa cannabis. Just think of that penalty the LTO came up with regards to the new plates' screw. Taenang kat@ngahan di ba?! Kaya kung ako tatanungin, let's just keep it underground. The hemp industry has survived that way simula namulat ako.

[sonicassault]

I think a friend who makes space cakes from down south uses cannabis oil, March pa ko last umorder e.

On topic, ganito na lang, lets forget  about the previous hullabaloos and talk objectively.
For you guys ano negative at positive sa legalization? I'll start:

Positive:
1. I do not even have to state the obvious fact na napakadaming uses ng hemp, from oils to paper and textile. Since we are an agricultural country maybe we can be a producer in Asia, unless may bad environmental impact.
2. Medicinal - which I do not have enough information on pero, it is pretty much known naman with all the advocacy and may scientific evidence.

Negative:
1. In a country like ours, I think the main negative here is the actual process of trying to legalize it. The religious and moral hypocrites along with the papogi politicos will surely make noise against it. Since the majority sees in a right wing / conservative  perspective it is almost utterly hopeless, honestly.

With regard to medicinal, I think THC can be classified somewhere below morphine but above your everyday painkillers. Prescription painkiller, which I think is one of its main uses.

As to the negative, tama yan. Another negative related to this is that it will set a legal precedent in legalizing a substance previously classified as a narcotic. How that will affect organized crime is uncertain, as legalizing drugs may actually decrease production of high quality or sufficiently safe narcotics, as they will be subject to taxes and regulation, posing grave threats to poor people because they are left with highly inferior substances.

[christian_siron05]

Ok, first I have the balls to say I'm sorry kung masyado harsh, but I couldn't find any shorter way to say how wrong your statement is... Lets do an analysis, shall we?

well sana hindi sa pinas.. why? most Filipinos are abusers/ do not have discipline and yung tinatawag na 'malasakit'.. it will do more harm than good for the society.. para dun sa mga 'for medical purposes' and nagsasabing me 'control' sila .. nakakakuha naman kayu di ba? wag na lang kayung papahuli..

Well, your shorter way also don't prove anything

Can you explain on how you came up with the above statement?
> most Filipinos are abusers - abusers of what?

Simple lang, abusers in general, look around you and observe, di ba halos karamihan nang pinoy ay likas na mapang abuso?
I have cited these before pero cough syrup and rugby nga tinitira nang iba satin e di ba? for other aspects,
example ko na sarili ko, aminado ako na isa ako sa mga taong nagyoyosi sa kung saan saan lang kahit alam kong me batas na bawal ito.
Well again, this is just an observation/opinion

> do not have discipline and yung tinatawag na 'malasakit' - anong kinalaman ng malasakit sa weed

Actually, wala namang kinalaman ang malasakit sa weed, kahit nga disiplina walang relasyon sa weed eh,
sa legalization na papasok yung disiplina at malasakit, why? great law makers set into consideration the culture and behavior
of a society before any legalization.

> it will do more harm than good for the society - dahil?

Dahil walang malakas na law enforcement ang pinas.

> para dun sa mga 'for medical purposes' and nagsasabing me 'control' sila .. nakakakuha naman kayu di ba? wag na lang kayung papahuli.. - hindi mo ba naiisip na may matatanda o may mga tao na pwedeng ma cure pero hindi nila alam at wala silang idea para ma access ito?

You have proof for this? Like what specific disease can be directly cured by using marijuana?

Ang mahirap lang dito e nauna na kasing naging masama ang image nang cannabis kaya hindi pa makalusot.
It will take a solid scientific proof bago mabaluktot ang law against dito even for medical use, so kung meron na, tsaka lang magiging valid yung point mo.
As for now, e tiis muna kung anomang gamot ang available.

I'll leave the rest to you, pero eto ha dahil may "imaginary friends" ka pang nalalaman, I'll be more than happy to introduce you to my friends to prove it, but you have to prove din na hindi ka U.LUL... kase yan yung sinabi natin sa isat isat diba?

Don't bother, better to keep your friend's private stuffs with them, baka masira pa friendship nyo.

I'll leave you with a quote from one of my former junkie friend...

"If intellect and intelligence was worshipped as a god, you'll surely be an atheist"

yeah I agree, dapat naalala mo yan bago ka nag comment sa thread na to nang U.LUL

Now am I harsh?

Judge yourself

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[christian_siron05]

first, don't accuse someone of something if you yourself did it first. "weh??.. barbero" is neither about the topic nor does it provide a point to discuss (it's about officebiker and his anecdote). and calling out imaginary friends is fcking childish man.

For the record, I'm not the one who started it, kahit mag back read ka pa.

And anong proof mo na childish ang pag cite nang "imaginary friends"?

second, don't dish it out if you can't take it. if you find your stuff funny, either you're stuck in junior high school or actually still in it. probably even grade school. grow the fck up.

Don't understand why are you reacting this way.. I'm not the one who started the bashing, nothing personal pero ayoko lang na mang "UU.LUL" ka dahil yun yung shorter way nang pagsasabi nang 'I don't agree with your statement'.

[christian_siron05]

Natatawa ako dun sa butthurt na walang maipang back up sa claims nya.  Sumindi ka muna kaya para kumalma ka.

U.lul!! [Simply means, I don't agree or your statement is wrong]

[christian_siron05]

I dunno if this guy is a troll man, but he's totally derailing the discussion here, even if only for the lack of merit of the arguments.

U.lul!! [Simply means, I don't agree or your statement is wrong]

[christian_siron05]

I think a friend who makes space cakes from down south uses cannabis oil, March pa ko last umorder e.

On topic, ganito na lang, lets forget  about the previous hullabaloos and  talk objectively.
For you guys ano negative at positive sa legalization? I'll start:

Positive:
1. I do not even have to state the obvious fact na napakadaming uses ng hemp, from oils to paper and textile. Since we are an agricultural country maybe we can be a producer in Asia, unless may bad environmental impact.
2. Medicinal - which I do not have enough information on pero, it is pretty much known naman with all the advocacy and may scientific evidence.

Negative:
1. In a country like ours, I think the main negative here is the actual process of trying to legalize it. The religious and moral hypocrites along with the papogi politicos will surely make noise against it. Since the majority sees in a right wing / conservative  perspective it is almost utterly hopeless, honestly.

This pal..  This

[officebiker]

This pal..  This

Bro ok ka n ba or hindi pa? Pag hindi pa PM mo ko, meet tayo.

[sonicassault]

Bro ok ka n ba or hindi pa? Pag hindi pa PM mo ko, meet tayo.

BTT na tayo bro

[christian_siron05]

Bro ok ka n ba or hindi pa? Pag hindi pa PM mo ko, meet tayo.

Ok naman ako.. just trying to redeem myself here..

[Boxedking]

You lost me at STUFFS. 

[christian_siron05]

You lost me at STUFFS. 

Me problema ka? gusto mo meet din tayu?

[Boxedking]

Me problema ka? gusto mo meet din tayu?

Nasa Makati ka ba? Tara!

[officebiker]

Whoa whoa whoa,

teka kulang yung post ko!!

ganito talaga sasabihin ko kay christian_siron05 pag nagmeet kame.... "Open minded ka ba? risk taker ka ba? nakikita mo yung BMW sa labas, hindi akin yun? yung small body na toyota ang akin. Gusto mo bang sumeksi at pumuti? kikita ka pa, kailangan mo lang ng 2 upline"

Boxedking at christian_siron05, pagpasensyahan nyo na at ako yata nagsimula ng gulo, Chill muna tayo bro, Boxed bigyan kita isang brownies pag naka order ako uli, hahaha

[sonicassault]

Nasa Makati ka ba? Tara!

sama ako paps, di pa ako nakakatry ng jollijeep eh 

[Boxedking]

Isasama ko yan papunta kila Ralph. Pagdadalhin ko ng fuds! 

Ayus! May free happy brownies pa ako!