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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #775 on: November 15, 2011, 09:10:53 AM »
ano pong maire-recommend nyo na mic. at mixer, balak ko po magrecord ng drums using only 1 mic..thanks  :-D

Not easy to recommend this since you will either: a) spend less and get a mono, 1-dimensional sound that will be very hard to tame, and b) spend for a more expensive stereo mic which you can set up as a quasi-overhead position in front of the kit so you can also capture the kick.

In both instances, you will need an excellent room to record in. You also didn't mention your budget but I'm assuming it is...uhhh, a budget setup.
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« Reply #776 on: November 15, 2011, 09:55:17 AM »
Not easy to recommend this since you will either: a) spend less and get a mono, 1-dimensional sound that will be very hard to tame, and b) spend for a more expensive stereo mic which you can set up as a quasi-overhead position in front of the kit so you can also capture the kick.

In both instances, you will need an excellent room to record in. You also didn't mention your budget but I'm assuming it is...uhhh, a budget setup.

10k below po ang budget ko sa mic at mixer ser kit, yung room po eh on going napo ang construction ko sa drum room, bale 13'x11' ang estimate kong dimensions then mga 280 ang ceiling height, concrete slabs po lahat ng walls, ceiling at floor. salamat po sa pagsagot..  :lol:
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #777 on: December 05, 2011, 10:59:48 PM »
sir KItc ask nmn!!haha redandant n kow!!eto po specs ng pc ko
1.pentium 4 dual core e5800 LGA77 3.2 ghZ
2.Asus motherboard P5G41T-MLx3
3.video card Nvidia Geforce 210 1024 mb(makakaapekto hu b to?based on past comments po eh)
4.windows xp sp2 32bit

un lng po then plan ko po mag tyu ng mini studio s bhay!!plan 1 ko po audio interface with usb  2.0 close po s m audio mobile pre mk2!! then a mixer po!!like yamaha mg82cx or mackie 802 vlz3 un lng po!!plan 2 ko po ung alesis multimix 8 usb 2.0 wla nmn po audio interface!!un lng po !sa mic po!!blak ko po muna shure sm57 for vocals,begginer p lng nmn po ako eh!maraming slmat po s mga magrereply!! pslmat p ko nkita ko tong forums n to!! slmat!!budget k po 15 k pro lokking forward to extend to 20!!tnx!! :)
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #778 on: December 06, 2011, 10:33:34 PM »
Mga pre, help naman.

I have an Allen & Heath ZED10FX mixer which has  a USB out. I plan  to plug it in my 13" macbook pro (2010) laptop 2.4GHZ 4GB RAM. I'm using Shure SM58 mics and a videoke player.

1) What is the best software for MAC to record voice (videoke singing) given that your budget is unlimited ?
2) What is the best software for MAC to record voice (videoke singing) given that your budget is $100 ?
3) What is the best software for MAC to record voice (videoke singing) given that it should be FREE ?
4) What is the best software if I use windows 7 64-bit on an i5 / 8GB / Asus xonar setup and unlimited budget for software?

Thanks.

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« Reply #779 on: December 07, 2011, 01:43:25 AM »
good morning!!haha!upon reading past comments!!i distinguished the difference between firewire and usb interface!according to sir Kitc,he uses firewire because of low cpu usage!at first i want to buy an interface with usb connection because i dont have firewire slot in my cpu!it has changed my mind and planning to buy an audio interface with firewire connection!but before buying an interface,i want to buy a PCI firewire expansion card which has a TI chip set!san hu kya meron neto tsaka store n pwd bilhan!!there are stores that comes up in my mind pero mas gusto ko po ung galing sa inyo and magkano po ung price?ung motherboard ko po eh ung ASUS P5G41T-MLX3 na isa lng po ung pci slot.chipset nia po eh intel@G41/Ich7!ask ko lng dn po kung ung expansion card ng firewire eh me distinction na ddr3 or ddr2 like sa RAM!!last na po talaga!is it advisable to me na gumamit ng firewire or usb 2.0 n lng kase ang habol ko lng nmn po eh ung hobby lang na recording!hinde po serious n recording!!ung specs ko po tsaka ung plano ko po  n sa top hihihi!!thank po!!merry Christmas..
 
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #780 on: December 08, 2011, 12:41:00 PM »
ckor - ok naman equipment list mo pero since nandyan na, suggest ko lang na maging familiar ka muna sa gamit mo. anong software mo? tsaka mo na isipin ang firewire dahil usb naman yung multimix mo.
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« Reply #781 on: December 08, 2011, 10:30:51 PM »
sir kitc!2 days n po akong exited sa reply nio :),salamat po s reply!hindi pa po ako nakakabile ng multimix!wala p po akong gamit!nagbago n po ung plan ko!usb interface bibilin ko!2 lng po pinagpipilian ko na nacapture yung attention ko!yung roland quad capture na me bundled na cakewalk sonar x1 LE at yung focusrite scarlett 2i2 bundled with ableton live lite 8!upon reading the reviews on the web!mas marame pong pumapabor s quad capture even though na wala syang gain control sa phones!as to scarlett,andameng bad issues 2ngkol sa drivers nia!!help nmn mag decide!2i2 is not yet available here while quad is availabe sa yupangco!wala po ko idea sa price ng 2i2 dito  dahil hnd pa released ng jb,pero mas mhal yung quad capture sa tingin ko!set aside ko po muna ung mixer since short ako!btw po!sa mixer ok dn po ba yung yamaha mg102c yun lang yung mura sa tingin ko dahil almost 8 k cia sa yupangco!salamat po ng marame!! :)
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« Reply #782 on: December 08, 2011, 11:20:50 PM »
pahabol pa po pala sa mixer!yung yamaha mg82cx since mas mahal sia at may onboard effects!yun nga lang po hindi ko alam kung me stock sa yupangco!san pa po ba meron d2 saten?tnx!looking forward to other brands ng mixer!!
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #783 on: December 12, 2011, 03:33:49 PM »
ckor,

The order of 'speed' in terms of soundcards goes something like this:

internal soundcard > firewire > usb 2 > usb 1.1, where a pci/pcie soundcard is the best if you want the lowest possible latency.

Mind you, this is with regards to branded soundcards whose drivers are really optimized for low latency operation; those consumer-type cards usually will not hack it since their drivers are often optimized for playback and not for recording.

Next is... what is your requirement for recording? Do you really need a mixer? What's with the need for internal effects in the mixer unless you plan to use it for a PA system. In short, what is your REAL requirement? Sonar and Live are both capable, but they have their quirks. Sonar is best thought of as a linear recorder and sequencing tool. Live can be best as a remix/arranging tool, but it also works as a very capable sequencing tool. It all depends on how you want to work.
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #784 on: December 12, 2011, 04:54:39 PM »
tnx sir KitC, i decided to buy an audio interface(usb 2.0) first!i just want to record my vocals with my acoustic guitar!the mixer probably goes next,BTW i included the mixer because it can be used in our sound system,my mother said to me that she wants a quality sound for our mic,and i thought that mixer can do that! the second use of mixer is when I jam together with my cousins for fun!Btw sir what do you mean by these? "Mind you, this is with regards to branded soundcards whose drivers are really optimized for low latency operation; those consumer-type cards usually will not hack it since their drivers are often optimized for playback and not for recording." i am a newbie!sorry for my innocence.
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« Reply #785 on: December 13, 2011, 11:46:54 AM »
Often, you will hear from a lot of people that soundblasters and similar soundcards can be used for recording, i.e., 'pwede na'. I will not lie to you... they can, but with certain caveats.

Like I said earlier, drivers of consumer soundcards are often optimized for playback and not for recording. That's why it's often difficult (but not impossible) to get very low latencies with 'blasters. I know this from experience.

Moving up from blasters, the first thing you will experience is lower noise first, and a clearer representation of the panning from left to right. That's because better spec cards have better spec components. Among the first things I noticed was, apart from low noise, the soundstage could be better visualized. I could hear details that were not inherent in my 'blasters. Another thing was low latencies due to driver optimization; it was much easier to record stuff.

Got to tweakheadz.com and read up on the primer on "The Guide". You will learn a lot about the jargon used in recording, as well as pertinent techniques and tips that you could pick up.
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #786 on: December 13, 2011, 03:50:38 PM »
tnx sir KITc but i have already read that! The only thing that i want for now is an interface first!Is just only for fun, I just want to record my vocals with my guitar or with some minus ones, not for serious recording! I decided for roland Quad capture because it sounds good to me!I called to yupanco but they said that it is not yet available here until january with no specific date!actually, its a good news for me because, I can save more money. I will skip the mixer. TNx sir. I want a roland quad capture sir hahhaha!what can you say about these interface!!Tnx sir!! :-D
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« Reply #787 on: December 14, 2011, 11:32:44 AM »
Seriously, I know nothing about these new Rolands but based on their track record, they produce a lot of good interfaces (if anything, my Roland VariOS is still going strong, though unused  :-( ). Just make a point to keep your drivers updated and always use the same usb port where you first plugged the Roland in.

Anyway, at least Sonar compatibility is assured so that might be a shoo-in for your first DAW and it is a good piece of software, which you can probably tell from my sig.

Since you already read tweakheadz, then you got a good foundation. Time to practice what you read, eh?
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #788 on: December 14, 2011, 02:42:10 PM »
yup !tnx sir kitC eh!haha!! the only thing that bothers me is my limited budget!if i get 1 firewire pci card,then its not enough.haha tnx for the reminders! ill show some reviews if I already bought it!

Upon reading tweakheadz! of course they are in favor of Firewire interfaces.I'd tried to find a review for quad capture but didn't found anyone! I've searched in the youtube in the past few days and luckily found some users of it. They don't have any bad experiences behind my future audio interface!LOL. :wave: i think, the only difference in firewire and USB 2.0(not 1.1 dahhh) is the specs of the PC!Consider the speed of Processor and if its quite enough to transfer data to a high speed hard drive.As of using firewire,they dont need any helpfrom the processor! There are many factors that must be considered in choosing a USB audio interface and I'm trying to understand them.

 I have watched the MTV of one hit combo by parokya ni edgar feat gloc 9 and they are using an m audio fast track mkII usb interface for that recording! Tnx hope that im not in a bad pathway!hahah! ^-^
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« Reply #789 on: December 15, 2011, 10:32:36 AM »
if i get 1 firewire pci card,then its not enough.

Firewire, as good as it is, seems to be in the doldrums today since most of the serial protocols in development is with USB3 and Thunderbolt. I think it's a safe bet to stick with usb for now and forget about firewire interfaces since even Apple is dropping firewire for T-bolt. <Then again, if someone was giving away his fireface for free  :drool: , I'd be a fool not to accept it!>
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #790 on: December 19, 2011, 01:42:29 PM »
pumunta ako last sa Hong Kong sole distributor ng RME fireface. anlayo! ! ! at ang mahal din. difference ng mga 2-5k. going there ulit after pasko, anu sir kitC, pabili ka? ;)
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« Reply #791 on: December 19, 2011, 04:15:39 PM »
Haha! kung pwede lang, bindoy!
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #792 on: December 19, 2011, 04:26:43 PM »
sige sir. sabihan mo ako ah. pwede email niyo ako

bindoy_carredo@yahoo.com padala niyo link. tapos email back ko kayo kapag nandun na ako. . . :) game!? GAS GAS
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Re: Setting up your PC for Recording
« Reply #793 on: December 28, 2011, 12:12:47 AM »
I have a guitar rig 5 problem. there is no input and output in guitar rig 5 as opposed to FL studio which is functioning.







same settings sa fl studio pero gumagana naman  :-(

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« Reply #794 on: December 28, 2011, 10:01:30 AM »
What kind of pc are you using? I noticed you have asio4all. Asio works better if it directly addresses the hardware instead of going through a wrapper. The moment you use asio4all, you are actually using WDM drivers. Try to use asio directly, not asio4all, unless you are using onboard sound, which is not the best setup really.
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« Reply #795 on: December 28, 2011, 12:00:20 PM »
toshiba laptop
dual core 2.27 ghz
2g RAM
32-bit operating system
conexant smartaudio hd

I tried the m-audio asio but still no luck


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« Reply #796 on: December 28, 2011, 11:38:57 PM »
Did you highlight the inputs and outputs?
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« Reply #797 on: December 30, 2011, 12:44:09 PM »
Hi, is Guitar Rig capable of recording as well? Does it have drum loops and bass line to create a backing track? I'll be setting up a new PC soon and I'm a bit old school and a newbie about this.  My goal is to record my riffs, solos and compose music as well.  Thanks!

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« Reply #798 on: December 30, 2011, 11:05:50 PM »
Hi, is Guitar Rig capable of recording as well? Does it have drum loops and bass line to create a backing track? I'll be setting up a new PC soon and I'm a bit old school and a newbie about this.  My goal is to record my riffs, solos and compose music as well.  Thanks!
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« Reply #799 on: December 31, 2011, 10:31:41 AM »
Hi, is Guitar Rig capable of recording as well?

Think of Guitar Rig as software multifx... without the recording option. Aside from standalone operation, it's also a plugin that you use with your favorite DAW.
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