Mixers with tape returns?

[titser_marco]

What brands and models have tape returns? I'm thinking of getting one that has 8 returns for the 8 track recorder in my home studio. Thanks!

[KitC]

You're looking for something like this A&H PA28 stereo live mixer:



I think they were called split-board mixers (someone correct me if I'm wrong) because as you can see, the right-hand 8 channels were sometimes meant for monitoring the outputs of 8-track recorders. These mixers can be expensive little buggers. If you have a 24- or 32-input mixer, you can reserve 8 channels for your tape returns without needing something like that A&H board.

[alien_inside]

ALLEN & HEATH: GL2400

[karlo]

ubos biyaya gear 

[mikep]

There are two types of mixer consoles in the analog realm.  One is an in-line console, and the other one is a split console.  The way it is is that the faders, say 1 - 24 are all input faders with their signals coming from mics, line, etc, and a corresponding 24 faders control the outputs coming from the tape machine.  These faders would normally be the return faders.  A typical example of these types of consoles are the old Soundcraft 2400 and DDA Consoles that were previously found in Greenhill Studios and Viva.  What we have at TRACKS is a combination split/in-line, where the faders serve as both line ins and outs but there is another 24 small faders that serve as returns.  Such is the complexity of life during the analog days, ... but it was fun!

FWIW

[densmodina]

maganda ung pinakita ni mods na pix, thats an allen and heath pa 28... may nagagamit ako ganyan sa church, those channels on the right side, channels 17-24 can be used as returns and also line... each channel has an individual phantom power switch, 5 eq knobs, un nga lang wala syang sub groupings... may kamahalan yan, pumapalo sya sa pinakamunimun na six digit amount... hehehe   

[KitC]

Such is the complexity of life during the analog days, ... but it was fun!

It still is, Mike. I long for the smell of tape in a newly opened box. 

[nolit]

I always use a tape sim on most of my mix. But still... nothing compares to the real thing.

[addbot02]

pa OT po..
any tips sa pag set up ng mixer?
especially sa EQ..

[planters]

I always use a tape sim on most of my mix. But still... nothing compares to the real thing.

sir nolit anong tape sim gingagamit nyo? baka pwedeng humingi ng mga tips naman salamat 

[nolit]

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb02/articles/sonarnotes0202.asp

hope this helps.

So far I have used voxengo and PSP. But I always find myself tinkering with the deafult of sonar.

[planters]

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb02/articles/sonarnotes0202.asp

hope this helps.

So far I have used voxengo and PSP. But I always find myself tinkering with the deafult of sonar.

Salamat sir,.. ok din yung PSP vintage warmer noh?, have you tried the digidesign tape saturation plug in? 

[KitC]

pa OT po..
any tips sa pag set up ng mixer?
especially sa EQ..

Start with everything at 0 db then adjust levels to taste (usually downward)' others sometimes start with all faders down - it's subjective. Once you got the levels right, only then should you start adjusting EQ. If you can't hear the diff. bet. low/mid/hi eq adjustments, I don't think you should be at the mixing desk.

[nolit]

Salamat sir,.. ok din yung PSP vintage warmer noh?, have you tried the digidesign tape saturation plug in? 

Sorry I am not in hands on with protools and all those digidesign family. Im sure they are good since they are industry standard.

Everything boils down to your ears actually. Take a good listening. And dont ever forget to keep listening to several good references.