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Title: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mad_tweaker on August 11, 2010, 02:25:35 PM
Did anyone from the audio masters had a chance to test and compare the performance of these 2 amplifiers in driving your subs? Balita ko kasi parehas lang daw sila ng lakas. But I hope may makuha akong inputs/ actual testimonials ng mga nakagamit na nito. Any inputs/opinions will be appreciated. :-)
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: N1X on August 11, 2010, 02:57:38 PM
CA20 ok yan. ok din LEXUS ang problema sobrang mahal ng lexus kaya hirap market
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 11, 2010, 02:59:28 PM
...parehong malakas pero malakas sumira ng speaker ang Lexus 1800...,, :oops:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mad_tweaker on August 12, 2010, 08:42:54 AM
Sir, bkit mo nasabing malakas sumira ng speaker ang Lexus MA1800? Nagdi-DC out ba sya pag tumatagal? Or madaling ba mag-clip compare sa CrellCA20? Kindly explain it further. Thanks and more power!
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: N1X on August 12, 2010, 01:19:08 PM
gamit ko dati MA1800, driving my 4 EL36 with Neusch PD1850 5" v.coil speaker ok naman. kahit dalawa lang oki pa rin di naman ako nasiraan ng speaker. sa ngayon CA20 halos parehas lang sila.. di pako binitin ng Crell at Lexus
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 12, 2010, 09:18:20 PM
Sir, bkit mo nasabing malakas sumira ng speaker ang Lexus MA1800? Nagdi-DC out ba sya pag tumatagal? Or madaling ba mag-clip compare sa CrellCA20? Kindly explain it further. Thanks and more power!

...Yes bossing mas mabilis mag DC Out compared sa Crell CA20...nag ACM M2800 na kami...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 12, 2010, 09:51:18 PM
@ glennox,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sir ,hows the performance of acm audio m2800 compare to crellca20 .alin sa 2 ang maganda ,buo at malakas mag bass, acm m2800 or crellca20..thanks               
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 14, 2010, 07:28:12 PM
@ glennox,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sir ,hows the performance of acm audio m2800 compare to crellca20 .alin sa 2 ang maganda ,buo at malakas mag bass, acm m2800 or crellca20..thanks               

...sir mants para samin mas malinis mag-bass ang ACM amps...try nyo din ang ACM MA2800.2...ang pagkakaiba naman nito eh "dual mono" ang power supply kaya mas stable sa low impedance connection...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 14, 2010, 07:45:13 PM
...sir mants para samin mas malinis mag-bass ang ACM amps...try nyo din ang ACM MA2800.2...ang pagkakaiba naman nito eh "dual mono" ang power supply kaya mas stable sa low impedance connection...,, :wink:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ,,thanks sir. binabalak ko kc bumili pa ng 1 power amps.at target ko nga sana e yong crell ca20...itong acm ma2800 ano ang specs nito sir.    kc may nka post dito sa 1 topic na acm m21200.. at itong acm m21200 ang pangtatapat daw sa ca20 ng crell .so mas mataas yata ang specs nitong acm ma2800 mo sir....how much kaya ang price nyang ma2800 mo,,,thanks,,                                                        http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,172130.25.html
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 14, 2010, 07:49:26 PM
...sir ang ACM MA2800 nasa 36,000.  Yung MA2800.2 nasa 40,000 pero itatanong ko ulit bossing...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 21, 2010, 06:01:01 AM
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                ,,thanks sir. binabalak ko kc bumili pa ng 1 power amps.at target ko nga sana e yong crell ca20...itong acm ma2800 ano ang specs nito sir.    kc may nka post dito sa 1 topic na acm m21200.. at itong acm m21200 ang pangtatapat daw sa ca20 ng crell .so mas mataas yata ang specs nitong acm ma2800 mo sir....how much kaya ang price nyang ma2800 mo,,,thanks,,                                                        http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,172130.25.html

...sir Mants pag gamit mo yung mga 5" coils na 18 inchers,  mas ok ang ACM ma2800.2...ang power nya ay 900 watts at 8 ohms at 1400 watts at 4 ohms pero para samin kasing lakas nito ang Crell CA20...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 21, 2010, 06:45:28 AM
...sir Mants pag gamit mo yung mga 5" coils na 18 inchers,  mas ok ang ACM ma2800.2...ang power nya ay 900 watts at 8 ohms at 1400 watts at 4 ohms pero para samin kasing lakas nito ang Crell CA20...,, :wink:
ah ganon ba sir,,parang ca20 nrin ung lakas nito,,e di mas lalo n cguro ung acm m21200 kc mas mataas ung power output nya,,2x1800 in 4 ohms at 2x1200 sa 8 ohms..thanks ,,,,,sa price panalo din,,,
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 21, 2010, 07:07:05 AM
ah ganon ba sir,,parang ca20 nrin ung lakas nito,,e di mas lalo n cguro ung acm m21200 kc mas mataas ung power output nya,,2x1800 in 4 ohms at 2x1200 sa 8 ohms..thanks ,,,,,sa price panalo din,,,

...hindi pa namin nasusubukan ang bagong m21200 ng ACM sir mants...,, :-)
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 21, 2010, 07:16:15 AM
...hindi pa namin nasusubukan ang bagong m21200 ng ACM sir mants...,, :-)
hehe ganon ba sir..abang nlang ako ng feedback ng makakasubok  nitong m21200,,thanks
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Bellissima on August 25, 2010, 07:44:48 AM
hehe ganon ba sir..abang nlang ako ng feedback ng makakasubok  nitong m21200,,thanks

Meron akong m21200 sir. Based on my experience halos magkasinglakas sila ng Crell CA20 pero para sakin mas malinis tumunog ang m21200, nagagamit ko sya na pang mid-hi,talagang crystal clear. Maganda rin sya pang-bass, mas tight kumpara sa Crell kaya siguro observation ng iba e mas malakas ito kesa CA20. Siguro yung mataas na damping factor (>800) ang inilamang nya. :-)
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 25, 2010, 02:08:22 PM
Meron akong m21200 sir. Based on my experience halos magkasinglakas sila ng Crell CA20 pero para sakin mas malinis tumunog ang m21200, nagagamit ko sya na pang mid-hi,talagang crystal clear. Maganda rin sya pang-bass, mas tight kumpara sa Crell kaya siguro observation ng iba e mas malakas ito kesa CA20. Siguro yung mataas na damping factor (>800) ang inilamang nya. :-)

...Go kami sa ACM amps...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 25, 2010, 04:34:48 PM
Meron akong m21200 sir. Based on my experience halos magkasinglakas sila ng Crell CA20 pero para sakin mas malinis tumunog ang m21200, nagagamit ko sya na pang mid-hi,talagang crystal clear. Maganda rin sya pang-bass, mas tight kumpara sa Crell kaya siguro observation ng iba e mas malakas ito kesa CA20. Siguro yung mataas na damping factor (>800) ang inilamang nya. :-)
thanks sir sa pag share ng ferformance ng ACM m21200,tama bang 32k ang price nito ngayon sa raon sir..ano ang name ng store n meron nito ..mas mataas nga ang damping factor nito kaysa crell,,pero mas madami ang gumagamit ng crell lalo na sa iloilo ginagamit nilang pangbatle ung crell ,,maybe dpa siguro kilala kaya konti pa lang ang gumagamit nitong ACM..thanks
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on August 30, 2010, 11:39:04 PM
thanks sir sa pag share ng ferformance ng ACM m21200,tama bang 32k ang price nito ngayon sa raon sir..ano ang name ng store n meron nito ..mas mataas nga ang damping factor nito kaysa crell,,pero mas madami ang gumagamit ng crell lalo na sa iloilo ginagamit nilang pangbatle ung crell ,,maybe dpa siguro kilala kaya konti pa lang ang gumagamit nitong ACM..thanks

...Sa may Raon sir mants madami ng ACM amps at speakers...ask ko ulit ang name ng store kung san namin nabili yung amin...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mr. ultimate on August 31, 2010, 09:10:14 PM
wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na super lakas malapit na eto!
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 31, 2010, 09:35:08 PM
wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na super lakas malapit na eto!
estemate mo sir kelan ito lalabas at kung ilan ang wattage nito sa 4 ohms at 8 ohms   
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mr. ultimate on August 31, 2010, 09:53:49 PM
mga 3500 watts sa 4 ohms 2 ohms stable pa wala pang price sinabi lang sakin taga iloilo by sept. daw ang labas
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mants on August 31, 2010, 10:22:07 PM
mga 3500 watts sa 4 ohms 2 ohms stable pa wala pang price sinabi lang sakin taga iloilo by sept. daw ang labas
malakas kung ganon thks....
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 02, 2010, 04:19:40 PM
wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na super lakas malapit na eto!

...Bossing may website ba ang LIVE ampli?... :-)
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mr. ultimate on September 02, 2010, 08:50:49 PM
wala pang web site ang live. mag hingi na lang ako ng picture, kung bigyan ako hehehe! ang pag kasabi sakin 16 pcs na caps tig 15,000uf malaki ang trorodial transformer. more than 65pcs ang power transistor. yung sample ginamit na raw sa leganes at gimaras sa iloilo . pero yung darating improve version na raw.
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: luffy on September 02, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
wala pang web site ang live. mag hingi na lang ako ng picture, kung bigyan ako hehehe! ang pag kasabi sakin 16 pcs na caps tig 15,000uf malaki ang trorodial transformer. more than 65pcs ang power transistor. yung sample ginamit na raw sa leganes at gimaras sa iloilo . pero yung darating improve version na raw.

your description of the said amp makes me think of the Alpha 8 model (being discussed in the other forum). anyway, sana magsabi ka na ng price how much?
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mr. ultimate on September 02, 2010, 09:26:59 PM
hindi ko pa alam kung magkano exsakto. sinabi lang 50+ , ipost ko pag may balita na ako pati picture kukuha rin ako.
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: mr. ultimate on September 02, 2010, 10:58:29 PM
kapag nalaman ko price post ko kagad .
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 24, 2010, 12:21:12 AM
wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na super lakas malapit na eto!

...May update na kaya sa LIVE power amp?...,, :?
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: spacejam on September 24, 2010, 12:38:21 AM
went to Raon yesterday.... heard that they will release it next week..still do not know the prices.
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 24, 2010, 12:47:21 AM
went to Raon yesterday.... heard that they will release it next week..still do not know the prices.

...thanks Boss...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: spacejam on September 24, 2010, 12:54:03 AM
...thanks Boss...,, :wink:

sabi ng nakausap ko 800damping factor 1700watts at 8ohms 2ohms stable. sabi sa amin balik daw kami next week.by next friday nandyan na daw.
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 24, 2010, 12:57:49 AM
sabi ng nakausap ko 800damping factor 1700watts at 8ohms 2ohms stable. sabi sa amin balik daw kami next week.by next friday nandyan na daw.

...Wait and see lang Boss...,, :wink:
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Bellissima on September 27, 2010, 11:41:29 AM
Sir yung sinasabi mo siguro yung LIVE Battle Amp 1.0 .Galing kasi ako sa Raon last saturday, nakita ko tong amp na to sa Master Fix General Merchandise. Chineck ko yung specs, same sa binaggit mo na 1700 watts @ 8 ohms and >800 ang damping factor. Nakausap ko yung may-ari, subok na raw nilang mas daig nito ang CRELL CA25. Yun nga lng di ko naipa-demo kasi napadaan lng ako at wala akong budget. Last price daw nila is 48k.
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 27, 2010, 12:06:36 PM
...dapat talaga mai-compare side by side sa CA25 para malaman kung accurate ang specs nitong Live power amp...,, :?
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: spacejam on September 27, 2010, 12:18:58 PM
galing rin ako dun sa raygin ... kakaiba nga ang tunog ng LIVE amplifier. tinitesting nila kasabay ng isang bagong amplifier ng LIVE na FET 2000 na may mosfet transistor  daw sa loob gamit yung LRX 715 speaker ... maganda and malinaw ang tugtog :-D parang JBL SRX 715 
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 28, 2010, 05:45:49 AM
galing rin ako dun sa raygin ... kakaiba nga ang tunog ng LIVE amplifier. tinitesting nila kasabay ng isang bagong amplifier ng LIVE na FET 2000 na may mosfet transistor  daw sa loob gamit yung LRX 715 speaker ... maganda and malinaw ang tugtog :-D parang JBL SRX 715 

...Boss dual 15 ba ang LRX715 or single 15"?...ilang watts daw ang FET2000...,, :?
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: spacejam on September 28, 2010, 06:52:01 AM
single 15 yun... 1200W x 2 @8hms daw yung Fet 2000
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: Glennox on September 29, 2010, 11:46:42 PM
single 15 yun... 1200W x 2 @8hms daw yung Fet 2000

...Price?...,, :?
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: dakilangpatricio on October 12, 2010, 07:57:54 PM
gud pm mga sir. . im patrick from palawan. . and mag setup po ako sound rentals dito


tri amp or quad amp setup gagawin ko. . gusto ko lng po sana malaman kung alam nio po price ng acm amplifiers??? tnx

ACM M2200 = ??
ACM M2300 = ??
ACM M2500 = ??
ACM M2800 = ??
ACM M21200 = ??

maraming salamat po sa inyo
Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: sikyo on October 13, 2010, 06:26:23 PM
gud pm mga sir. . im patrick from palawan. . and mag setup po ako sound rentals dito


tri amp or quad amp setup gagawin ko. . gusto ko lng po sana malaman kung alam nio po price ng acm amplifiers??? tnx

ACM M2200 = ??
ACM M2300 = ??
ACM M2500 = ??
ACM M2800 = ??
ACM M21200 = ??

maraming salamat po sa inyo




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Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
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Title: Re: Crell CA20 vs. Lexus MA1800
Post by: jacobsarinas on September 25, 2016, 10:24:25 PM
Ilang watts po yung lexus ma1800 bridge mono for 8ohms and 4ohms