Author Topic: Let's see those EFX! (Read 7097 times)

tyrande101 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 12, 2011, 09:41:28 PM »

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pinapatong ko lang ung spring. grin
sa pang intro ko lng trip gawin un e. hehe. pero kung sa isang buong kanta mo sya gagamitin siguro dapat lagyan mo nlang ng packing tape.. \m/

hindi ko pa natry to bro pero meron akong alternate technique..

mga poging philmusicians! another cymbal/snare effect nanaman ang ishe-share ko.. astig to arang ice ice baby! haha! kanina ko lang ginawa and mga co-musicians ko sa church ay na-elibs sa tunog.. haha!
Now, kung may splash ka or china splash, try this!

**** ilagay mo lang yung splash sa snare mo.. paluin, damahin, lasapin ang kakaibang tunog ng snare! and start doing tugs tugs! as in ♪ ♫ Tug-Tak Tug-Tak ♫ ♪

happy drumming

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**** dalawa ang pwedeng tunog dito, pwede mong paluin yung snare (iwasan yung splash, tunog mute na parang techno) at pwede mo rin paluin ang dulo ng splash, (parang lata na pumapalakpak yung tunog..)

cholok3 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 13, 2011, 11:08:00 AM »

^^ ok yan sir. Parang mark/mike guiliena(?)? \m/

tyrande101 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 13, 2011, 01:24:15 PM »

Quote from: cholok3 on March 13, 2011, 11:08:00 AM

^^ ok yan sir. Parang mark/mike guiliena(?)? \m/

haha! anung band nun bro? hindi ko sya kilala ah.. hehe.. ayos tong thread na ito, sana may mag post pa ng ibat ibang cymbal/drum effect.. tuwang tuwa talaga mga co-musician ko sa tunog ng snare with splash eh.. haha! imba daw..

drumachine · « **Reply #28 on:** March 18, 2011, 05:47:48 PM »

Quote from: tyrande101 on March 12, 2011, 09:41:28 PM

hindi ko pa natry to bro pero meron akong alternate technique..

mga poging philmusicians! another cymbal/snare effect nanaman ang ishe-share ko.. astig to arang ice ice baby! haha! kanina ko lang ginawa and mga co-musicians ko sa church ay na-elibs sa tunog.. haha!
Now, kung may splash ka or china splash, try this!

**** ilagay mo lang yung splash sa snare mo.. paluin, damahin, lasapin ang kakaibang tunog ng snare! and start doing tugs tugs! as in ♪ ♫ Tug-Tak Tug-Tak ♫ ♪

happy drumming

Note:

**** dalawa ang pwedeng tunog dito, pwede mong paluin yung snare (iwasan yung splash, tunog mute na parang techno) at pwede mo rin paluin ang dulo ng splash, (parang lata na pumapalakpak yung tunog..)

i guess this is what bro Gep is reffering to. it's called Drumbal... artists like Johnny Rabb and Benny Greb often use this techniques/effects.

cholok3 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 19, 2011, 01:22:14 AM »

Quote from: tyrande101 on March 13, 2011, 01:24:15 PM

haha! anung band nun bro? hindi ko sya kilala ah.. hehe.. ayos tong thread na ito, sana may mag post pa ng ibat ibang cymbal/drum effect.. tuwang tuwa talaga mga co-musician ko sa tunog ng snare with splash eh.. haha! imba daw..

eto si mark guiliana>>>>

tyrande101 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 19, 2011, 08:50:40 AM »

Quote from: cholok3 on March 19, 2011, 01:22:14 AM

eto si mark guiliana>>>>

brad anu ung nakalagay na parang lata sa bell ng ride? parang lalagyan ng spicy sauce.. hehe..

cholok3 · « **Reply #31 on:** March 19, 2011, 07:43:06 PM »

uu yata. hahaha! parang kaldero. hehe

francisnuega · « **Reply #32 on:** April 15, 2011, 01:23:55 PM »

gusto ko ng Trigger Pedal, para may E-Drum effects ako gamit ang paa, at para makapag trigger ng loops, haha

tudupak · « **Reply #33 on:** April 16, 2011, 11:29:20 PM »

you can also use old guitar strings. cut it and isukbit and let the side where the bola "sizzle" your cymbals..

m1k3y · « **Reply #34 on:** April 18, 2011, 04:38:41 PM »

i stacked a 14/13 inch regal crash to a 16 inch planet z crash, just for experiment, nagulat ako, ayos ang tunog. it sounded like MP's cymbal stack effect like in his video ...10 degrees of turbulent drumming. cheap!

tyrande101 · « **Reply #35 on:** April 19, 2011, 07:34:03 AM »

Quote from: m1k3y on April 18, 2011, 04:38:41 PM

i stacked a 14/13 inch regal crash to a 16 inch planet z crash, just for experiment, nagulat ako, ayos ang tunog. it sounded like MP's cymbal stack effect like in his video ...10 degrees of turbulent drumming. cheap!

hindi po ba namamatay ang tunog ng crash kapag may naka stack ng ganung kalaki? well kasi nag try ako splash 10in ang ini-stack ko sa crash 16in, hindi sya naka baliktad instead nakapatong talaga. ayun patay ang tunog ng crash, pero magandang effects sya kapag ang tugtugan mo is drum and bass.

m1k3y · « **Reply #36 on:** April 20, 2011, 03:37:20 PM »

Quote from: tyrande101 on April 19, 2011, 07:34:03 AM

hindi po ba namamatay ang tunog ng crash kapag may naka stack ng ganung kalaki? well kasi nag try ako splash 10in ang ini-stack ko sa crash 16in, hindi sya naka baliktad instead nakapatong talaga. ayun patay ang tunog ng crash, pero magandang effects sya kapag ang tugtugan mo is drum and bass.

parang ganun nga po ang nangyari kaya naka stack sya,para mabilis mag fade yung crashing sound, parang may pagka china kasi yung character ng regal na crash, i dont know, it works for me, pero IMHO parang yung kay portnoy na stack effect tlga yung tunog, yun nga lang mine's wayyy more cheaper.

jepoyoy · « **Reply #37 on:** April 26, 2011, 09:13:49 PM »

===cymbal project===

*Balak ko kasi gumawa ng parang cymbal project, ang meron ako is 16" stagg sh crash at 10" stagg myra crash. Eto yung balak ko ipagawa kay dabomb...

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UPDATE-> Piggyback po yan

ano masasabi nyo?

Comments naman

*5 lang yung butas kasi yan lang kaya budget ko hahahaha... pero kung mas may maganda kayo na comment, papadagdag ako

thanks guys... ang also to curry and jda for the cymbals

dreddurius · « **Reply #38 on:** April 26, 2011, 10:11:36 PM »

Waw sa itsura pa lang parang ang tinis na ah ^^,

Ingat nga lang sa 10" kasi judging sa cut nya parang mahina ang reinforcement kasi you're cutting ALONG the groove. What I see is maaga syang magkakaroon ng warping. Hope it works out and looking forward na makita ko to sa Classifieds

jepoyoy · « **Reply #39 on:** April 26, 2011, 10:20:15 PM »

prefer mo ba na same cut na nung crash yung sa splash?

naisip ko lang yan kasi yung mga pics ni sir dabomb pag nagrerepair ng cymbal cracks, ganun yung itsura ng butas, so ayun ahahaha

*Pag maganda kinalabasan, ipopost ko ulit dito

dreddurius · « **Reply #40 on:** April 27, 2011, 09:15:28 AM »

Not really, since a matter of preference naman to. I guess ang importante eh yung kalalabasan na tunog. But consider mo na din yung survivability ng pies. consult mo na din sa kanila.

Gud luck meyng!

Riff_6603 · « **Reply #41 on:** April 27, 2011, 04:57:09 PM »

anong sound ba yung habol mo bro? kasi I've tried stacking sabian ozones before, hindi ganun kaganda yung kinalabasan (IMO).. here's the thing, since mala Zildjian EFX style yung preferred cut mo sa crash, then most likely it would have the same intended response when hit freely. now, if you put the EFX style splash on top, it would be something like MP's stacks or any cymbal stack combination for that matter, which has a quick and tight response then right? now since ozones, efx, grilles etc. are made to sound thrashy when hit freely, they wouldn't sound as much at all when stacked. IMO bawas pa nga yung tunog since yung contact points bawas din due to the cutouts. BUT, there are certain cymbal effect stacks that i've seen and tried wherein ozones (or the like for that matter) are stacked with regular hole-free pies, but then again that's a whole different concept.. just trying to give you an idea bro! good luck to your cymbal project!

jepoyoy · « **Reply #42 on:** April 27, 2011, 05:33:46 PM »

Thanks sa mga comments

Ang habol ko po na sound ay something fast and thrashy - that will compliment my 16" hhx evo crash. Gospel kasi tugtugan, so napaicp ako i need a fast crash to compliment the solid sound nung hhx crash.

Naisipan ko bumili na lang ng mura na cymbals, at imodify sila para maging "fast" yung sound. Staggs are known to be thrashy, so I thought, "fast and thrashy" is the sound I needed.

Sabi po ni sir dabomb, holes hasten the decay ng cymbals, ang problem ko kasi:

- Yung 16" stagg crash, mellow ang tunog and swak naman sa tugtugan. My first plan was to rehammer it, pero they were brittle sabi po ni sir dabomb kaya change ng plan
- Yung 10" myra splash, solid yung thrash sound, pero may overtones. Sa research ko, nawawala yung mga overtones pag naglagay ng butas

So, naisip ko po na lagyan sila pareho ng holes

5 nga lang muna maximum, kasi yun lang kaya ng budget hehehe.

@PHILMUSICIANS -> comment kau ng mas magandang design. Kahit gaano karadical yan

ako nmn gagastos eh hehehehe. ika nga ni P-Noy, "Kayo ang boss ko"

*@sir Riff -> parang piggyback po pala yung balak ko na style, balak ko din siya i-stack ng normal (parehong nsa taas ang bell), pero parang di swak eh

Riff_6603 · « **Reply #43 on:** April 27, 2011, 06:41:42 PM »

Quote from: jepoyoy on April 27, 2011, 05:33:46 PM

Thanks sa mga comments

Ang habol ko po na sound ay something fast and thrashy - that will compliment my 16" hhx evo crash. Gospel kasi tugtugan, so napaicp ako i need a fast crash to compliment the solid sound nung hhx crash.

Naisipan ko bumili na lang ng mura na cymbals, at imodify sila para maging "fast" yung sound. Staggs are known to be thrashy, so I thought, "fast and thrashy" is the sound I needed.

Sabi po ni sir dabomb, holes hasten the decay ng cymbals, ang problem ko kasi:

- Yung 16" stagg crash, mellow ang tunog and swak naman sa tugtugan. My first plan was to rehammer it, pero they were brittle sabi po ni sir dabomb kaya change ng plan
- Yung 10" myra splash, solid yung thrash sound, pero may overtones. Sa research ko, nawawala yung mga overtones pag naglagay ng butas

So, naisip ko po na lagyan sila pareho ng holes 5 nga lang muna maximum, kasi yun lang kaya ng budget hehehe.

@PHILMUSICIANS -> comment kau ng mas magandang design. Kahit gaano karadical yan ako nmn gagastos eh hehehehe. ika nga ni P-Noy, "Kayo ang boss ko"

*@sir Riff -> parang piggyback po pala yung balak ko na style, balak ko din siya i-stack ng normal (parehong nsa taas ang bell), pero parang di swak eh

maganda kung sabian o-zone style yung sa crash then zildjian efx style yung sa splash; it's beyond the superficial "just for the look" reasons actually. given yung inherent sound and size nung crash, IMO mas achieve yung preferred sound decay if o-zone style na paikot at uniform ang butas ang gagawin. sa splash mo naman, size really matters pagdating sa modification. IMO, it would be best to do the semi efx style (3 slots like what you had illustrated before sa crash, without the additional holes gaya ng actual zildjian efx style) and not the design that aligns with the actual lathing, as dreddurius mentioned baka magka-issues agad yung cymbals mo (sayang yan!)

BTW, I'd go with piggyback vs stacked for this project. good luck!

jepoyoy · « **Reply #44 on:** April 27, 2011, 06:59:23 PM »

:roll:Thanks sa comments sir Riff

eto po new pics base sa comment ni sir:

---O-zone/EFX piggyback setup

Comments!!

Riff_6603 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 27, 2011, 07:05:14 PM »

ok na yung design mo sa splash. yung sa crash though mas maganda sana kung 6 holes paikot sa bow para uniform yung sound distribution, thus achieving your preferred sound. just shell out a li'l more dough though, trust me it'd be worth it!