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Title: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: jgmredor on August 05, 2015, 07:49:42 PM
Not sure where to post this. Dito na lang since I play guitars mostly  :) came across this blog.

OPM is Not Dead

Who said OPM is dead? It's not. There are hundreds of bands, acts and solo performers who continue to make music of all genres, and are very passionate in doing so. Do they make money out of it? No, they lose money. So why bother? Unconditional love. I myself am a musician who's made close to a hundred songs. I believe in my work and I love doing it. It's a way to release my feelings, emotions and my way of sharing stories, fact or fiction, and coloring it with different notes and melodies. It satisfies me and I will keep on doing it. I am not alone in this, I know at least a hundred others who do this for the same reasons as I do. Why haven't you've heard of us? It's simple. Distribution. The recording labels are gone. They are not willing to bet on new artists, instead they rely on already popular names, recycle old and tired material, heck they even ride on the popularity of individuals who can't hit 2 correct notes in succession. It's a business strategy. Along the way, they forgot what their vision is and deviated from it. Why? Because of the consumers. While music is a need for musicians, it's a want for many. How can they want something that they haven't seen or heard of. There's no trigger to create demand, so businesses don't provide supply. But recording labels aren't just a business, they also have a social responsibility to be the triggers of creating demand but have shied away from doing it. Where's the entrepreneurial spirit? What happened to taking risks? What happened to bridging artists and general consumers? OPM lives but distribution is dead.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: coy_2cute on August 05, 2015, 08:17:45 PM
OPM is not dead, it just transformed into something else...
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: qroon on August 05, 2015, 08:52:36 PM
Di ba OPM is simply the popular/mainstream Filipino music? In that case, hangga't may local artist/musicians na sikat ay may buhay pa rin ang OPM.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: RedWinG on August 05, 2015, 11:53:13 PM
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: j-sonic on August 06, 2015, 04:05:04 PM
Other
People's
Music

Kung cover bands lang,siguradong madami pa din
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2015, 04:24:23 PM
Tama, distribution is dead, but the music is pretty much alive.

I can't even keep track of the new bands I haven't listened to yet. Tsaka graduate na yung underground scene sa puro rock at metal lang. Lots of good indie pop, post rock, electronica, fusion, jazz, and everything in between.

Pero yung distribution wala. Mag Spotify ka na lang. Bili ka sa iTunes at CDBaby. Sumipot ka ng gigs. Bili ka sa sa mga restaurant/cafe/shops/bookstore na nagdadala ng mga local stuff dahil friends yung may-ari ng shop at yung artist. Yung Kjwan 4 vol. 2 nga major outlet nga, pero kailangan ko hingin sa kahera dahil walang shelf space.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: gandydancer123 on August 06, 2015, 04:34:34 PM
Tama, distribution is dead, but the music is pretty much alive.

I can't even keep track of the new bands I haven't listened to yet. Tsaka graduate na yung underground scene sa puro rock at metal lang. Lots of good indie pop, post rock, electronica, fusion, jazz, and everything in between.

Pero yung distribution wala. Mag Spotify ka na lang. Bili ka sa iTunes at CDBaby. Sumipot ka ng gigs. Bili ka sa sa mga restaurant/cafe/shops/bookstore na nagdadala ng mga local stuff dahil friends yung may-ari ng shop at yung artist. Yung Kjwan 4 vol. 2 nga major outlet nga, pero kailangan ko hingin sa kahera dahil walang shelf space.

good insight..
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 06, 2015, 04:41:22 PM
OPM is POP.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2015, 04:49:23 PM
OPM is POP.

if OPM is pop the way we used to know it, then yeah it's pretty much dead. And it should stay dead until they can churn out really good pop again.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: dharzfreeman on August 06, 2015, 04:51:15 PM
Hindi ito totoo.. masyado lang kasing mahal ang gastos sa recording, host na promotion industry, and other expenses.. na iilan lang ang may kaya at nakakalusot depende din siyempre sa potential ng isang artist o banda..

say artist like pempemco.. :-D nag struggle din naman sa simula nakilala pa ng husto sa labas pa ng bansa

pero sana bawasan na yun revival sa opm
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2015, 04:55:38 PM
Hindi ito totoo.. masyado lang kasing mahal ang gastos sa recording, host na promotion industry, and other expenses.. na iilan lang ang may kaya at nakakalusot depende din siyempre sa potential ng isang artist o banda..

say artist like pempemco.. :-D nag struggle din naman sa simula nakilala pa ng husto sa labas pa ng bansa

pero sana bawasan na yun revival sa opm

sana mamatay na ang revival. (hahaha see what i did there it's a pun) kung may cover man please lang yung obscure na maganda yung pag narinig mo sa radyo walang makakaalam kahit isang tao kung san galing yun.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: dharzfreeman on August 06, 2015, 05:01:08 PM
sana mamatay na ang revival. (hahaha see what i did there it's a pun) kung may cover man please lang yung obscure na maganda yung pag narinig mo sa radyo walang makakaalam kahit isang tao kung san galing yun.

haha..yes kill all revivalist artists & musicians.. dog damnnit, wala nang talent e  :lol:
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 06, 2015, 05:19:09 PM
haha..yes kill all revivalist artists & musicians.. dog damnnit, wala nang talent e  :lol:

sobrang bulok din kasi ng mga big label producers eh. walang composition skills talaga. wala tayong quincy jones/jimmy iovine. all they could do for their run-of-the-mill talents (aka yung mga artista/celebrity na pinapakanta) is make covers using a MIDI palette that sounds worse than a Magic Sing karaoke, and make similar "original" tunes that use the same damn progressions and melodies. They might as well call every new OPM album a DJ remix of every Ogie Alcasid record, but with a different vocalist using a different MIDI sampler and mixed by a high school student.

@ralph, so what's the right term to refer to non-mainstream-pop filipino music? or yun na yun, Filipino music?
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Boxedking on August 06, 2015, 07:13:10 PM
I had my fair share with regards to having our music distributed by a certain company. It didn't come cheap, I must say. Our producer/bandmate had to shell out as much as P70k for the reproduction of the CDs, printing and distribution nationwide to all affiliated record bars. May additional P10k+ pa para sa "fee" ng Optical Media Board (OMB) bago i-reproduce yun CD.

If you're some bedroom artist who can create tasteful music from entry to mid-level gear, will you be able to afford such price for production and distribution? Aasa ka na naman ba sa social media channels like YouTube for some bigtime personality with "say" in the industry to notice you?

I agree with the content of the blog. OPM isn't dead, just trapped. It's stucked in each artist's bedroom.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 09:31:57 AM
I had my fair share with regards to having our music distributed by a certain company. It didn't come cheap, I must say. Our producer/bandmate had to shell out as much as P70k for the reproduction of the CDs, printing and distribution nationwide to all affiliated record bars. May additional P10k+ pa para sa "fee" ng Optical Media Board (OMB) bago i-reproduce yun CD.

If you're some bedroom artist who can create tasteful music from entry to mid-level gear, will you be able to afford such price for production and distribution? Aasa ka na naman ba sa social media channels like YouTube for some bigtime personality with "say" in the industry to notice you?

I agree with the content of the blog. OPM isn't dead, just trapped. It's stucked in each artist's bedroom.

buti nga may mga website na tulad ng Amplify.ph. If they like it they give you the spotlight. Di na dependent sa big names yung pangalan mo, plus di ka papakialaman para lang masulit nila yung distribution deal nila.

IMO minsan iniisip ko bilang isang Filipino artist, sa ibang bansa ko na lang ibenta yung music ko, kasi di naman naaappreciate dito pero sa iba benta eh (say, UDD, Typecast, Kate Torralba for the contemporary acts). I don't think it makes it less Filipino, you're just making it worth your while. electronica and indie can sell to the UK and France(hello Glasgow!), metal bands to the rest of Europe, Rock bands and hip hop to south east asia, mainstream flavor pop to the US. Leave the demand here to Lito Camo.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 09:58:53 AM
sobrang bulok din kasi ng mga big label producers eh. walang composition skills talaga. wala tayong quincy jones/jimmy iovine. all they could do for their run-of-the-mill talents (aka yung mga artista/celebrity na pinapakanta) is make covers using a MIDI palette that sounds worse than a Magic Sing karaoke, and make similar "original" tunes that use the same damn progressions and melodies. They might as well call every new OPM album a DJ remix of every Ogie Alcasid record, but with a different vocalist using a different MIDI sampler and mixed by a high school student.

@ralph, so what's the right term to refer to non-mainstream-pop filipino music? or yun na yun, Filipino music?

Indie Pop?

to further explain my statement above, lately, in order to make it big in the PH Music Industry, you have to be playing mind-hypnotizing, LSS-ing, catchy pop tunes.

take it from me, our label does not want to release our album (Alternative/Soul) unless we have 2-3 pop sounding songs in the album. hence the covers.


also, dun sa statement na "kill all revival artists and musicians", just to let you guys know, most of the time, its not the artists choice. it's the producers choice. a man has to make money. so kadalasan, walang magawa ang artist. sasalang ka nalang sa studio. at iisipan ng arrangement on the spot yung pinapacover/revive sa inyo.


lastly, hindi yung labels ang may problema if you ask me. it's the audience and the media. hanggang ngayon, pop pa rin ang gusto ng mga nakikinig ng radyo (karamihan). in a label's perspective, syempre, kailangang kumita ng pera. bakit ka pa ba magpapasign sa label or producer kung ayaw mo rin namang sumikat o kumita diba? gusto mong mag play ng music, eh di sana nag indie ka nalang pala. pero alam mo naman pag indie, kaunti lang din ang nakikinig.

so it's an artist's dilemma, magpapakaartist ba ako, at tutugtugin yung gusto ko lang na genre? or do I play what the producers want to gain a share in radio play time?
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 10:25:02 AM
Indie Pop?

to further explain my statement above, lately, in order to make it big in the PH Music Industry, you have to be playing mind-hypnotizing, LSS-ing, catchy pop tunes.

take it from me, our label does not want to release our album (Alternative/Soul) unless we have 2-3 pop sounding songs in the album. hence the covers.


also, dun sa statement na "kill all revival artists and musicians", just to let you guys know, most of the time, its not the artists choice. it's the producers choice. a man has to make money. so kadalasan, walang magawa ang artist. sasalang ka nalang sa studio. at iisipan ng arrangement on the spot yung pinapacover/revive sa inyo.


lastly, hindi yung labels ang may problema if you ask me. it's the audience and the media. hanggang ngayon, pop pa rin ang gusto ng mga nakikinig ng radyo (karamihan). in a label's perspective, syempre, kailangang kumita ng pera. bakit ka pa ba magpapasign sa label or producer kung ayaw mo rin namang sumikat o kumita diba? gusto mong mag play ng music, eh di sana nag indie ka nalang pala. pero alam mo naman pag indie, kaunti lang din ang nakikinig.

so it's an artist's dilemma, magpapakaartist ba ako, at tutugtugin yung gusto ko lang na genre? or do I play what the producers want to gain a share in radio play time?

agree ako sa lahat ng points dito.

let's face it, there's a reason why it's called the music industry. law of supply and demand lang din yan. Filipinos never got over the 80s. Never. And the artists who get to break the monotony? Their fame only lasts as long as they keep the label's demand for radio tunes.

pero I still stand by the kill all the revivals thing. yes it's the producer's choice because of the demand of the people. but law of supply and demand will dictate that if there is only the substitute that is available, then it will replace the main product. So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it. How do I know it won't flop? Hollywood has been feeding the international community with the same crap. Jessie J has been feeding the world with even worse crap. Mainstream will consume everything you says it wants.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 10:52:04 AM
agree ako sa lahat ng points dito.

let's face it, there's a reason why it's called the music industry. law of supply and demand lang din yan. Filipinos never got over the 80s. Never. And the artists who get to break the monotony? Their fame only lasts as long as they keep the label's demand for radio tunes.

pero I still stand by the kill all the revivals thing. yes it's the producer's choice because of the demand of the people. but law of supply and demand will dictate that if there is only the substitute that is available, then it will replace the main product. So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it. How do I know it won't flop? Hollywood has been feeding the international community with the same crap. Jessie J has been feeding the world with even worse crap. Mainstream will consume everything you says it wants.


you realize that nung nawala yung OPM Pop, biglang nagsulputan yung mga KPOP songs at mga songs ng Meteor Garden. IMHO, it is the TV Culture and Radio Culture. sila parin ang nagdidictate kung ano ang ipplay. i dont know if you know this, pero in order to get play time sa mga "Jologs" radio stations like 90.7 Love radio, you will have to pay them. kung ikaw mismo, indie or purist sa genre mo, hindi ka nila ipplay dun. you have to pay a large fee, or sleep with one of their producers/Djs.

hindi ito baseless claims at base sa research ha? nakita ko to kasi andun ako. wala namang artist ang gustong makilala sa Cover Songs eh. the sad fact is, you ahve to do it to survive.


"So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it."

Get real. with the advent of digital media, kahit patayin mo yung airtime nila, ipplay parin yan sa mga CD Dash or USB ng mga jeep at tindahan.

if you think you can simplify the Music Industry with just basic economics, I am sorry but you're way off. It's not that simple. you kill the airtime, people will look for another source. parang hoarding lang yan. may risk ka rin na mapanis yung mga tinda mo.

Ako, i am one of those artists na nagooppose dun sa revival thing. when my band was starting, I tried my best to be against the current, and try to break through that barrier of OPM Pop and Revivals. However, wala talaga. sure, you can keep playing as an artist. but trust me when I say, you'll most probably be playing for free food, or worse, free lang talaga.


Unless, the media conditions the listeners to be open to listening to new stuff, walang mangbabago sa industry. Pop and Revivals will reign supreme. parang mga teleserye lang yan.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 11:06:10 AM

you realize that nung nawala yung OPM Pop, biglang nagsulputan yung mga KPOP songs at mga songs ng Meteor Garden. IMHO, it is the TV Culture and Radio Culture. sila parin ang nagdidictate kung ano ang ipplay. i dont know if you know this, pero in order to get play time sa mga "Jologs" radio stations like 90.7 Love radio, you will have to pay them. kung ikaw mismo, indie or purist sa genre mo, hindi ka nila ipplay dun. you have to pay a large fee, or sleep with one of their producers/Djs.

hindi ito baseless claims at base sa research ha? nakita ko to kasi andun ako. wala namang artist ang gustong makilala sa Cover Songs eh. the sad fact is, you ahve to do it to survive.


"So, if all producers just outright killed all revivals and throwback airtime that's not on "retro day" then listeners will have no choice but to appreciate it."

Get real. with the advent of digital media, kahit patayin mo yung airtime nila, ipplay parin yan sa mga CD Dash or USB ng mga jeep at tindahan.

if you think you can simplify the Music Industry with just basic economics, I am sorry but you're way off. It's not that simple. you kill the airtime, people will look for another source. parang hoarding lang yan. may risk ka rin na mapanis yung mga tinda mo.

Ako, i am one of those artists na nagooppose dun sa revival thing. when my band was starting, I tried my best to be against the current, and try to break through that barrier of OPM Pop and Revivals. However, wala talaga. sure, you can keep playing as an artist. but trust me when I say, you'll most probably be playing for free food, or worse, free lang talaga.


Unless, the media conditions the listeners to be open to listening to new stuff, walang mangbabago sa industry. Pop and Revivals will reign supreme. parang mga teleserye lang yan.

onga no. tama ka, may ibang source nga pala sila, yung owner copies!  :eek: in addition to that kung hindi nga sila nagsasawa sa 80s eh, sigurado wala din silang sawa na paulit-ulitin na lang yung meron sila na hindi na inooffer ngayon. mapapanis nga ang imbentaryo mo nun.

on the KPop and the Meteor Garden thing, kahit ayoko nun, it was a welcome change for me. Strictly on the musical level at least iba sya sa run-of-the-mill mainstream pop na gawa dito. Same with KPop although that one is pretty stale and I have no idea why the movement is still alive (considering Koreans don't have that 80s music hangup we Filipinos have).

curious lang, magkano ang bagsakan ng pera pag magpapa-airtime ka sa jologs radio station?  tsaka gaano katagal ang exposure nun?

At, mas ok kaya kung ang TV ang point of attack para mag-iba ang landscape ng music industry? Because, kunwari sa US, the American Idol thing really pushed the revival/throwback movement there and it lasted for like a decade, simply because that's the only way you can run a constest. Originals will put in too may variables that can take away from the skill's judgment. Now, if they're not making covers, they're making records that sound old (starting with Lady Gaga, up to Swift's 1989 and more recent pop releases).

We have the capacity naman to make more singing contests, it's a dime a dozen here. Kahit nga 100K lang ang grand prize mo kahit sino kakagatin yan. then instead of focusing on revivals, they can start covering established indie records. Still, it's covers, but it's a much better start.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 11:39:38 AM
onga no. tama ka, may ibang source nga pala sila, yung owner copies!  :eek: in addition to that kung hindi nga sila nagsasawa sa 80s eh, sigurado wala din silang sawa na paulit-ulitin na lang yung meron sila na hindi na inooffer ngayon. mapapanis nga ang imbentaryo mo nun.

on the KPop and the Meteor Garden thing, kahit ayoko nun, it was a welcome change for me. Strictly on the musical level at least iba sya sa run-of-the-mill mainstream pop na gawa dito. Same with KPop although that one is pretty stale and I have no idea why the movement is still alive (considering Koreans don't have that 80s music hangup we Filipinos have).

curious lang, magkano ang bagsakan ng pera pag magpapa-airtime ka sa jologs radio station?  tsaka gaano katagal ang exposure nun?

At, mas ok kaya kung ang TV ang point of attack para mag-iba ang landscape ng music industry? Because, kunwari sa US, the American Idol thing really pushed the revival/throwback movement there and it lasted for like a decade, simply because that's the only way you can run a constest. Originals will put in too may variables that can take away from the skill's judgment. Now, if they're not making covers, they're making records that sound old (starting with Lady Gaga, up to Swift's 1989 and more recent pop releases).

We have the capacity naman to make more singing contests, it's a dime a dozen here. Kahit nga 100K lang ang grand prize mo kahit sino kakagatin yan. then instead of focusing on revivals, they can start covering established indie records. Still, it's covers, but it's a much better start.


ugali kasi ng mga radyo, pag tinanggal mo yung source ng droga (i.e. tanggalin mo yung OPM Pop), magiimport yang mga yan. parang yung "What does the fox say". grabe ang naging radio time nung dito sa atin. parang WTF lang. so, in the eyes of producers and labels, [apple], retreat! go back to the old formula!


yung mga ganun, like TSWIFT and Bruno Mars sounding like old Mo-Town artists, may karapatan na sila kasi nga sikat na sila. pero nung bago pa sila, anong ginamit nila to break through? Pop pa rin. cue Love Story and Just The Way You Are.


yes, we can make singing contests covering indie stuff. pero ang mindset nga kasi ng mga TV people ay "If it aint broken, dont fix it". kumbaga, the pop revival thing is still milking and paying out sa pinas. why end a good thing? well, at least for them.


regarding the fees sa love radio, it was around 100 - 150k to be played once or twice in a month.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: red lights on August 07, 2015, 11:52:29 AM


^ 100-150 k??!!!! ang mahal grabeeee!!!
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 12:42:44 PM
to clarify, 100-150k to be played once or twice daily. per month. :D
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: j-sonic on August 07, 2015, 01:17:07 PM
Brad Ralph, seryosong tanong. Yung mga Pinoy artists ba na nagco-cover ng foreign songs,like Regine murdering Aerosmith's hit song from Armageddon,ay nagbabayad ng royalties dun sa foreign artists?
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 01:49:43 PM

ugali kasi ng mga radyo, pag tinanggal mo yung source ng droga (i.e. tanggalin mo yung OPM Pop), magiimport yang mga yan. parang yung "What does the fox say". grabe ang naging radio time nung dito sa atin. parang WTF lang. so, in the eyes of producers and labels, [apple], retreat! go back to the old formula!


yung mga ganun, like TSWIFT and Bruno Mars sounding like old Mo-Town artists, may karapatan na sila kasi nga sikat na sila. pero nung bago pa sila, anong ginamit nila to break through? Pop pa rin. cue Love Story and Just The Way You Are.


yes, we can make singing contests covering indie stuff. pero ang mindset nga kasi ng mga TV people ay "If it aint broken, dont fix it". kumbaga, the pop revival thing is still milking and paying out sa pinas. why end a good thing? well, at least for them.


regarding the fees sa love radio, it was around 100 - 150k to be played once or twice in a month.

and sadly the pop revival thing is still the main cash cow for the philippine radio industry for the past 45 years.
likewise the karaoke industry is prolly getting a kick on this because they have less royalties to pay out (I assume you only have to pay the songwriters, not the arrangers, so that means one payout for 5 different versions of a song).

Dun sa rate, 150K for 2 plays per day for 30 days, assuming 3:30 ang length mo, that figures out to around 715 pesos per minute, 1430 pesos per minute kung once a day lang. Actually not a bad rate, if you were an advertiser. But you're an artist, a "single proprietor" if you will, and that's one huge ass sum of money.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 02:58:15 PM
Brad Ralph, seryosong tanong. Yung mga Pinoy artists ba na nagco-cover ng foreign songs,like Regine murdering Aerosmith's hit song from Armageddon,ay nagbabayad ng royalties dun sa foreign artists?

depende sa arrangement kasi paps. kung parehas kasi kayo ng label, i.e. kung si aerosmith ay warner, at si regine ay warner philippines, pwedeng gamitin ni regine ung song kasi usually, pag sign ng artist, nagsusurrender ka rin ng rights sa label mo. hence, yung i dont want to miss a thing, kay warner na siya, so pag gusto ni warner ipagamit kay regine yung song, pwedeng pwede.


pag hindi naman, yes, magbabayad kayo. depende na sa usapan nung song owner kung magkano. in our bands case, nung nagcover kami, nagbayad kami.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 02:59:41 PM
and sadly the pop revival thing is still the main cash cow for the philippine radio industry for the past 45 years.
likewise the karaoke industry is prolly getting a kick on this because they have less royalties to pay out (I assume you only have to pay the songwriters, not the arrangers, so that means one payout for 5 different versions of a song).

Dun sa rate, 150K for 2 plays per day for 30 days, assuming 3:30 ang length mo, that figures out to around 715 pesos per minute, 1430 pesos per minute kung once a day lang. Actually not a bad rate, if you were an advertiser. But you're an artist, a "single proprietor" if you will, and that's one huge ass sum of money.


ngayon alam mo na kung pano sumikat ang Chicser.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: j-sonic on August 07, 2015, 03:02:15 PM
Okidok brad Ralph,salamat. Magbabakasyon kami diyan next year. Ano bang local bands ang worth watching? Mainstream rock,or harder pop. Di kasi mahilig sa metal si misis.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 03:07:02 PM
Okidok brad Ralph,salamat. Magbabakasyon kami diyan next year. Ano bang local bands ang worth watching? Mainstream rock,or harder pop. Di kasi mahilig sa metal si misis.


usually paps, the good bands are in the good bars like 12 monkeys sa Century City, or sa 19 East. i don't think kasi you'll enjoy the usual bar gig na mejo subpar ang equips (i.e., hindi mo maintindihan ang kinakanta ng vocalist)

so yun. yung mga bands na nagpplay dun, usually are the mainstream pop and rock guys. meron ding mga "undercard" na magagaling rin. try spotting jensen and the flips, baka matripan mo sir. they're rooted in pop, jazz and soul. very pleasing sa ears at makalaglagpanty sa babae hahaha
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: gandydancer123 on August 07, 2015, 03:15:16 PM
yung bleu rascals..and mga acts sa manila bay expat bar na tinutugan nila..
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: j-sonic on August 07, 2015, 03:20:10 PM

usually paps, the good bands are in the good bars like 12 monkeys sa Century City, or sa 19 East. i don't think kasi you'll enjoy the usual bar gig na mejo subpar ang equips (i.e., hindi mo maintindihan ang kinakanta ng vocalist)

so yun. yung mga bands na nagpplay dun, usually are the mainstream pop and rock guys. meron ding mga "undercard" na magagaling rin. try spotting jensen and the flips, baka matripan mo sir. they're rooted in pop, jazz and soul. very pleasing sa ears at makalaglagpanty sa babae hahaha

Hehe,thanks. Subok ko na yung mga subpar na bar bands dati,nasubukan ko na rin tumugtog dun nung 90's kaya alam kong masakit sa tenga,lol.

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Post by: j-sonic on August 07, 2015, 03:22:00 PM
yung bleu rascals..and mga acts sa manila bay expat bar na tinutugan nila..

Thanks Gandy,ayos ang gig mo. Dito kasi la pa ko nami-meet na pwede ka-jam. Puro dating miyembro ng bandang mosiko ang nakilala ko hehe
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Post by: gandydancer123 on August 07, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
Thanks Gandy,ayos ang gig mo. Dito kasi la pa ko nami-meet na pwede ka-jam. Puro dating miyembro ng bandang mosiko ang nakilala ko hehe

 just googled,

Road House Manila Bay, hehe..enjoy! I just see updates sa FB nila, havent been there personally but seems they have good local acts..especially blues and hard rock stuff.. :)
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Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 03:59:16 PM

ngayon alam mo na kung pano sumikat ang Chicser.

eh yun  :eek:


usually paps, the good bands are in the good bars like 12 monkeys sa Century City, or sa 19 East. i don't think kasi you'll enjoy the usual bar gig na mejo subpar ang equips (i.e., hindi mo maintindihan ang kinakanta ng vocalist)

so yun. yung mga bands na nagpplay dun, usually are the mainstream pop and rock guys. meron ding mga "undercard" na magagaling rin. try spotting jensen and the flips, baka matripan mo sir. they're rooted in pop, jazz and soul. very pleasing sa ears at makalaglagpanty sa babae hahaha

jensen and the flips!!
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Post by: Boxedking on August 07, 2015, 05:55:03 PM
to clarify, 100-150k to be played once or twice daily. per month. :D
Hotangena! Mas mahal pa pala sa pagkakaalam ko! Ayaw kasi sabihin samin ng producer dati magkano yun payola sa Love Radio at Yes FM dati noon para patugtugin yun kanta namin.
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 05:58:10 PM
Hotangena! Mas mahal pa pala sa pagkakaalam ko! Ayaw kasi sabihin samin ng producer dati magkano yun payola sa Love Radio at Yes FM dati noon para patugtugin yun kanta namin.

so alam mo na rin pala yung payola hahahaha inang love radio yan hahahaha
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Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
Hotangena! Mas mahal pa pala sa pagkakaalam ko! Ayaw kasi sabihin samin ng producer dati magkano yun payola sa Love Radio at Yes FM dati noon para patugtugin yun kanta namin.

pero mura yan! isipin mo na lang yung rates sa advertisers, tapos ang binibili lang nila mga 5s, 10s, 15s spots. mahal na yung 30s, ikaw 3:30, at least! not sure pero ang paraan lang para makalibre ka sa ganyan is magpasponsor ka (this next song was brought to you by Muhmee! instant mami noodles...)
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Post by: Boxedking on August 07, 2015, 06:00:56 PM
Trenta mil lang sinabi sa amin noon na nilabas nila para sa dalawang hin@yupak na radio stations na yan! Pero sa Pinas FM hindi ata sila humingi ng payola noong humingi sila ng kopya ng single namin na radio-edit version. Di ko lang alam yun sa ibang masa radio stations like Barangay LS.
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Post by: Boxedking on August 07, 2015, 06:02:35 PM
pero mura yan! isipin mo na lang yung rates sa advertisers, tapos ang binibili lang nila mga 5s, 10s, 15s spots. mahal na yung 30s, ikaw 3:30, at least! not sure pero ang paraan lang para makalibre ka sa ganyan is magpasponsor ka (this next song was brought to you by Muhmee! instant mami noodles...)
Yun radio station na mismo nag-aasign kung anong commercial idudugtong sa kanta nyo.
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Post by: chiqgarcia on August 07, 2015, 06:03:41 PM
sariling insight ko lang ito ha...

i think the local movie industry has flatlined mainly because of the industry veterans who dictate what people should watch. i.e. dapat "pang-masa" which is obvious code for "dumbed down". hindi nila inalagaan yung clients/industry nila (inimpose lang nila ang dated taste nila at minaintain ang status quo).

oh wait, did i say movie industry? i meant garment industry, ummm no, i meant music industry... teka, ikaw na lang ang pumili ng local industry na complacent in light of globalization.

look at south korea... they're not particularly more talented than us, but they've produced income-generating commodities (K-pop, gangnam, korean tv/movies).

i remember this concert/video i had... it was "for those about to rock, we salute you" which featured ac/dc, pantera, metallica etc which was held in russia... this russian band (or host?) exclaimed: "we are tired of listening to neil diamond records!" (or something to that effect). seems like they (russian consumers) didn't have much freedom to choose (or options) when it comes to music.
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 07, 2015, 06:11:56 PM
Trenta mil lang sinabi sa amin noon na nilabas nila para sa dalawang hin@yupak na radio stations na yan! Pero sa Pinas FM hindi ata sila humingi ng payola noong humingi sila ng kopya ng single namin na radio-edit version. Di ko lang alam yun sa ibang masa radio stations like Barangay LS.

5 minutes yung kanta namin nun so baka kaya mas mataas. tska more plays sana kami.

si pinasFM di din humingi samin ng payola. pati LS at JAM at RX walang payola, pero hindi sure na ipplay ka. the deal is kasi, mas mraming jeep, taxi at yaya ang naka tune in sa LOVE. so andun yung mga die hard fans ala KathNiel Fans.


and oo, kanya kanyang commercial sa radyo yan hahaaha haselan. malamang kayo paps lei, red horse. kami, closeup HAHAHAHA
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Post by: Boxedking on August 07, 2015, 06:18:56 PM
May isang beses nga na parang sabong panlaba pa nga yun kasunod nun kanta namin. Tawa ako ng tawa sa bus nun eh!

"That song was brought to you by... Ariel! Blah! Blah! Blah!..."  :lol:
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Post by: sonicassault on August 07, 2015, 06:55:27 PM
5 minutes yung kanta namin nun so baka kaya mas mataas. tska more plays sana kami.

si pinasFM di din humingi samin ng payola. pati LS at JAM at RX walang payola, pero hindi sure na ipplay ka. the deal is kasi, mas mraming jeep, taxi at yaya ang naka tune in sa LOVE. so andun yung mga die hard fans ala KathNiel Fans.


and oo, kanya kanyang commercial sa radyo yan hahaaha haselan. malamang kayo paps lei, red horse. kami, closeup HAHAHAHA

question lang, kung walang payola si radio station, pano mo sila icoconvince na ilagay yung kanta mo sa catalog (coz like you said no guarantee of airtime) or idikit sa sponsor?
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Post by: Boxedking on August 07, 2015, 08:16:28 PM
question lang, kung walang payola si radio station, pano mo sila icoconvince na ilagay yung kanta mo sa catalog (coz like you said no guarantee of airtime) or idikit sa sponsor?
Suntok sa buwan yun kapag walang perang involved.
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 09, 2015, 04:55:13 PM

question lang, kung walang payola si radio station, pano mo sila icoconvince na ilagay yung kanta mo sa catalog (coz like you said no guarantee of airtime) or idikit sa sponsor?

Kung naunang magviral sa youtube yan, or pinaguusapan na na online like William Singe, Ylvis, ipplay nila yan. Trending eh.
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Post by: sonicassault on August 10, 2015, 09:01:17 AM
Kung naunang magviral sa youtube yan, or pinaguusapan na na online like William Singe, Ylvis, ipplay nila yan. Trending eh.

hasel  <_<

o sino gusto gumawa ng kanta tungkol sa #AlDub?  :lol: <_<
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Post by: coy_2cute on August 10, 2015, 09:04:08 PM
Kung naunang magviral sa youtube yan, or pinaguusapan na na online like William Singe, Ylvis, ipplay nila yan. Trending eh.

Sabihan ko nga si Ael na mag-novelty songs na lang kami. Bwahahaha!
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 11, 2015, 09:42:48 AM
Sabihan ko nga si Ael na mag-novelty songs na lang kami. Bwahahaha!

April Boy Revivals! =))
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Post by: Boxedking on August 11, 2015, 06:16:37 PM
In the same context with music trying the keep it's head above water, here's an article about Linkin Park "venturing out" to keep the money flowing.

https://hbr.org/2015/06/what-happened-when-linkin-park-asked-harvard-for-help-with-its-business-model?utm_campaign=Socialflow&utm_source=Socialflow&utm_medium=Tweet
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Post by: sonicassault on August 11, 2015, 06:22:32 PM
In the same context with music trying the keep it's head above water, here's an article about Linkin Park "venturing out" to keep the money flowing.

https://hbr.org/2015/06/what-happened-when-linkin-park-asked-harvard-for-help-with-its-business-model?utm_campaign=Socialflow&utm_source=Socialflow&utm_medium=Tweet

I think this explains the Marshall x whateverproduct thing going on.

kelan kaya ako makakakita ng Midnight Meetings artista notebook?  :lol:
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Post by: gandydancer123 on August 12, 2015, 03:33:29 PM
In the same context with music trying the keep it's head above water, here's an article about Linkin Park "venturing out" to keep the money flowing.

https://hbr.org/2015/06/what-happened-when-linkin-park-asked-harvard-for-help-with-its-business-model?utm_campaign=Socialflow&utm_source=Socialflow&utm_medium=Tweet

YOWN ! nice
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Post by: gandydancer123 on August 12, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
^ that linkin park share is fantastic..

I love it...it can also translate into an interesting career.. this things interest me a lot..good read!

music+ Business

Business+ Music..

futureforward...

should find more of these stuff to read..
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Post by: sonicassault on August 12, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
^ that linkin park share is fantastic..

I love it...it can also translate into an interesting career.. this things interest me a lot..good read!

music+ Business

Business+ Music..

futureforward...

should find more of these stuff to read..

We need to get real about music, that it is indeed an industry. Kahit gano ka ka-indie or purist, ang dahilan kung bakit may maganda kang gitara ay dahil may demand nito sa benta na music.

But I think we need another Quincy Jones. He was the one who did both sides of the music industry coin: yung artist type na hindi kumikita, and on the other hand he produced the biggest stars, notably Michael Jackson. He was the one who was able to provide pop with good taste. But it will take a shtload of momentum to get things to that kind of ideal, because even during that time, still lots of crap came out.
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Post by: qroon on August 12, 2015, 09:06:53 PM
So paano natin ibabalik ang topic sa OPM is Dead? He he he.
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Post by: gandydancer123 on August 13, 2015, 04:59:19 AM

Thanked 174 Times in 34 Posts

Re: Marshall Co Branding...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gandy Dancer 

https://hbr.org/2015/06/what-happene...m_medium=Tweet


What Happened When Linkin Park Asked Harvard for Help with Its Business Model

Good article, thanks for that.

Quote:

To be clear, we are still in the music business, but creating and selling music now plays more of a supporting role in our overall business mix. As we get ready to headline a five-city stadium tour of China this summer, we are also planning to meet with technology companies, consumer brands, and venture capital firms to discuss opportunities for partnership. Of course we’ll play the shows and meet with fans, as we’ve always done. But along with continuing to make great music, today’s Linkin Park is now better positioned to operate in the ever-evolving cultural and business landscape.

Welcome to the new music business kids.


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Post by: sonicassault on August 13, 2015, 08:18:03 AM
So paano natin ibabalik ang topic sa OPM is Dead? He he he.

gawing mas magandang uri ng negosyo ang OPM  :lol:

but seriously, yeah ganun nga, mapipilitan ka gumawa ng music na makakasabay sa noveau riche kung gusto mo iangat man lang ng konti ang estado ng OPM.

likewise for the established acts and bands who were popular but not under the garbage pop banner, they can extend their brand's lifespan through other non-music businesses (tulad nung post ni sir gandy sa linkin park) which can also influence a lifestyle that can in turn influence OPM whether it will be for the detriment of its current state (change status quo) or to improve it (same stuff but better material).
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on August 13, 2015, 09:58:37 AM
So paano natin ibabalik ang topic sa OPM is Dead? He he he.


wala di na pwede hahaha nagiintellectual masturbation an si Gandy eh. HAHAHA
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Post by: gandydancer123 on August 13, 2015, 10:13:02 AM

wala di na pwede hahaha nagiintellectual masturbation an si Gandy eh. HAHAHA

bwahaha! game game..

back to topic na! haha  :lol:
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Post by: jgmredor on August 14, 2015, 10:07:33 PM
Wow thanks for posting in this thread. My first topic ever aside from the classifieds! Hahaha!

So the thing is to now evolve into being a brand name and be more than just a band. Pero di ba that's easier done once you're already in the public's consciousness (Jordan brand wouldn't be as successful if Michael Jordan didn't become great) Baka dapat you have someone in the band na merong 6 pack at iaangat ung shirt to show it off and be a century tuna poster boy. Maybe be friends with Daniel Padilla and ask a favor to post you in his social media account saying "Ang cool nitong banda na ito, manonood ako sa gig nila". Then just like that you have a crowd more than other bands lined-up to play.

Then again, what happened to just making music? If that's the case then should we rather spend money to be belo-utiful than on gear and lessons? Should we spend more time on the gym working out than practicing?

This stuff is complicated! It makes song-writing cake.
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Post by: the_godfather on August 14, 2015, 11:33:59 PM
OPM is not dead. A lot of local indie bands are active and producing their own materials. Search lang through google, soundcloud, bandcamp.
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Post by: sonicassault on August 17, 2015, 11:23:30 AM
Wow thanks for posting in this thread. My first topic ever aside from the classifieds! Hahaha!

So the thing is to now evolve into being a brand name and be more than just a band. Pero di ba that's easier done once you're already in the public's consciousness (Jordan brand wouldn't be as successful if Michael Jordan didn't become great) Baka dapat you have someone in the band na merong 6 pack at iaangat ung shirt to show it off and be a century tuna poster boy. Maybe be friends with Daniel Padilla and ask a favor to post you in his social media account saying "Ang cool nitong banda na ito, manonood ako sa gig nila". Then just like that you have a crowd more than other bands lined-up to play.

Then again, what happened to just making music? If that's the case then should we rather spend money to be belo-utiful than on gear and lessons? Should we spend more time on the gym working out than practicing?

This stuff is complicated! It makes song-writing cake.

iba talaga yung trip/mahal mo lang yung music vs really making it in the business. it's like trying to sell a 7/4 song to the pop crowd, just imagine (di naman ata pop ang solsbury hill).

OPM is not dead. A lot of local indie bands are active and producing their own materials. Search lang through google, soundcloud, bandcamp.

well, based dun sa working definition na OPM=pop, yeah it's dead. pero kung Filipino music, I agree, it's very much alive and actually doing much better now than 5 years ago!
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Post by: the_godfather on August 17, 2015, 09:38:22 PM
well, based dun sa working definition na OPM=pop, yeah it's dead. pero kung Filipino music, I agree, it's very much alive and actually doing much better now than 5 years ago!

True! Dami ng listeners, nanonood ng gigs at bumibili ng band merch ngayon. Sana magtuloy tuloy lang at wag magsawa ang tao na making at pumunta sa gigs.

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Post by: sonicassault on August 18, 2015, 07:16:46 PM
True! Dami ng listeners, nanonood ng gigs at bumibili ng band merch ngayon. Sana magtuloy tuloy lang at wag magsawa ang tao na making at pumunta sa gigs.

malaking bagay din yung services tulad ng soundcloud at spotify. Would've never heard of the tons of new indie acts if not for these services. mahilig ako matulog eh kaya di ako mahilig pumunta ng gigs. likewise, yung mga services na yun focused sa audio lang, di tulad ng myspace dati focused sa networking so may "bias" pag nakita mo na konti lang ang likes or something
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Post by: hunk0429 on August 27, 2015, 03:22:57 PM
OPM is not dead!

saw wolfgang/razorback/houndz in 19east recently and it was jampacked! although im not aware of new bands lately, i've heard praises from my colleagues about new bands to check out.. prods are making it more easier for bands to play regular gigs, also the merchandise!

i just wish top40 would comeback.. it promotes bands, OPM specifically... :-(
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Post by: RedWinG on September 25, 2015, 01:26:57 AM
masyado maraming airplay sa radio mga foreign acts.

sana mag-reserve ng day or even time slots for indie or new filipino artist.

nakakumay na mga covers ng OPM ng mga nananalo sa singing contest.  :cry:
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Post by: the_godfather on September 25, 2015, 04:35:35 PM
masyado maraming airplay sa radio mga foreign acts.

sana mag-reserve ng day or even time slots for indie or new filipino artist.

nakakumay na mga covers ng OPM ng mga nananalo sa singing contest.  :cry:

Sir tune in to Jam 88.3. Meron silang show called Fresh Filter, si Russ Davis ang DJ. Dati syang taga NU107. Puro Local Indie Music ang pini-feature nila. My voting system din na pag nanalo ang song ng isang band, makakasama sa regular playlist ng Jam 88.3 yung song. Tested ko na ito, yung song namen na I Feel Like I'm On Drugs nanalo sa Fresh Filter. After that nakakareceive ako ng text message or PM sa facebook na narinig nila song namen sa Jam. :D
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Post by: sonicassault on September 28, 2015, 09:16:32 AM
Sir tune in to Jam 88.3. Meron silang show called Fresh Filter, si Russ Davis ang DJ. Dati syang taga NU107. Puro Local Indie Music ang pini-feature nila. My voting system din na pag nanalo ang song ng isang band, makakasama sa regular playlist ng Jam 88.3 yung song. Tested ko na ito, yung song namen na I Feel Like I'm On Drugs nanalo sa Fresh Filter. After that nakakareceive ako ng text message or PM sa facebook na narinig nila song namen sa Jam. :D

sir pano sumasalang yung kanta  nyo sa Jam? old school style (yung nagddrop ng CD sa station, or nag-eendorse sa email) or napupulot na lang nila kung saan? di ako familiar sa Fresh Filter eh, minsan na lang maka-tune in sa Jam  :-(
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Post by: the_godfather on September 28, 2015, 04:04:42 PM
sir pano sumasalang yung kanta  nyo sa Jam? old school style (yung nagddrop ng CD sa station, or nag-eendorse sa email) or napupulot na lang nila kung saan? di ako familiar sa Fresh Filter eh, minsan na lang maka-tune in sa Jam  :-(

Sinuwerte kame na makasabay namen sa gig yung band ni Russ Davis na Slow Hello. After nun kinausap nya kame at humingi ng permission to play our song sa show nya. Kaya kame oo agad. pero through email submission sa kanila or kung sa facebook Makita nya yung song, sya din ata mismo nagmemessage sa bands. eto yung tumbler page nila:

http://freshfilterph.tumblr.com/

Submissions: freshfilterph@gmail.com

Good luck bro!
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Post by: sonicassault on September 28, 2015, 04:09:54 PM
Sinuwerte kame na makasabay namen sa gig yung band ni Russ Davis na Slow Hello. After nun kinausap nya kame at humingi ng permission to play our song sa show nya. Kaya kame oo agad. pero through email submission sa kanila or kung sa facebook Makita nya yung song, sya din ata mismo nagmemessage sa bands. eto yung tumbler page nila:

http://freshfilterph.tumblr.com/

Submissions: freshfilterph@gmail.com

Good luck bro!

wala naman po akong anda sir ngayon, but thanks! na curious lang sir kung pano gumagana ngayon yung mga ganyang show tulad ng In the Raw dati sa NU  :) buti naman may nagpapasok pa rin ng kanta sa airwaves galing  sa gigs.  :)
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Post by: the_godfather on September 28, 2015, 08:04:15 PM
wala naman po akong anda sir ngayon, but thanks! na curious lang sir kung pano gumagana ngayon yung mga ganyang show tulad ng In the Raw dati sa NU  :) buti naman may nagpapasok pa rin ng kanta sa airwaves galing  sa gigs.  :)

Yup! Laking tulong ng Fresh Filter ng Jam 88.3 sa Indie Music Scene ngayon. Tune in ka pag kaya, you'll be surprised kung gaano kagaling at kaganda mga songs ng local indie bands naten.
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Post by: lennon_reincarnate on January 26, 2016, 05:15:41 PM
check vandalsonthewall.com too.

a simple blogsite whose aim is to discover and review singles and album by (mostly) independent artists. as in naghahanap sila.
you can also submit. style stereogum/pitchfork style ng writing.

radiorepublic and digradio/pinoytuner is very much alive too. pwedeng di kasing sikat ng internet radio satin, pero sinimulan na nila yung trend.

di patay. may mga di lang naghahanap
o ang iba, stuck sa era nung dating panahon, ayaw na makinig.
pramis maraming magaling. mismong ako nasusurprised sa nadidiscover ko :)
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Post by: jm the mute on January 26, 2016, 05:42:52 PM
it's a nice hobby



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Post by: Boxedking on January 26, 2016, 05:46:56 PM
o ang iba, stuck sa era nung dating panahon, ayaw na makinig.
Badtrip nga yun mga ganyan. Nakakawalang ganang kausap.
Title: Re: OPM is Dead (share your thoughts)
Post by: lennon_reincarnate on February 04, 2016, 02:36:41 PM
nabasa ko sa isang interview na isang sikreto ng Sandwich is continuing to evolve. Lagi silang excited maghanap at makadiskubre bagong banda. dun sila naiinspire.

at kung iisipin mo, nakakabata rin. sarap makinig e. sarap manood. it's just a choice if you want to help the scene.
korni nung mga bitter at rereklamo about OPM is better back in the days, pero di naman lumalabas.
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 04, 2016, 03:26:40 PM
nabasa ko sa isang interview na isang sikreto ng Sandwich is continuing to evolve. Lagi silang excited maghanap at makadiskubre bagong banda. dun sila naiinspire.

at kung iisipin mo, nakakabata rin. sarap makinig e. sarap manood. it's just a choice if you want to help the scene.
korni nung mga bitter at rereklamo about OPM is better back in the days, pero di naman lumalabas.


malakas ang sandwich kasi nasa kanila si rayms. dagdag pa, daming connect din lahat ng miyembro. isapaw mo pa yung fact na tumabo sila sa fan base lalo na nung golden years ng pagbabanda (yr 2000s).

parang parokya lang kung titingnan natin, pundasyon na ng opm ang parokya, kahit anong kanta na ang ilabas nila, may tatangkilik at tatangkilik dahil nga, solid fanbase na.

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Post by: sonicassault on February 04, 2016, 03:36:18 PM

nabasa ko sa isang interview na isang sikreto ng Sandwich is continuing to evolve. Lagi silang excited maghanap at makadiskubre bagong banda. dun sila naiinspire.

at kung iisipin mo, nakakabata rin. sarap makinig e. sarap manood. it's just a choice if you want to help the scene.
korni nung mga bitter at rereklamo about OPM is better back in the days, pero di naman lumalabas.

Sa tingin ko di naman masyado nag-evolve ang Sandwich. May changes, may bago, pero hindi evolve like say what happened to linkin park (or yung chicosci ni mong).

Pero tama sila in a way na lagi nga sila naghahanap ng bago at nageexperimento, pero mas madalas na sa ibang banda napupunta yun.


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Post by: fretboard on February 04, 2016, 03:48:16 PM
nood kasi ng gig  :lol:
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Post by: sonicassault on February 04, 2016, 07:30:04 PM

nood kasi ng gig  :lol:

Oo nga naman :lol: pero Kahit nga sa internet malakas din ang presence ng underground scene, kelangan open ka lang talaga


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Post by: CeL1916 on February 08, 2016, 11:45:22 AM
Rakrakan festival was cancelled nung december dahil sa bagyo, pero tinuloy nitong january. Marami nang di nakapunta, pero andun ako at masasabi ko langya jampacked parin.(imagine kung natuloy nung december, mas marami. Yung iba galing pa visayas mindanao. So masasabi ko na andun parin ang support! Buhay parin!
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Post by: queer_rocker on February 11, 2016, 12:07:12 PM

malakas ang sandwich kasi nasa kanila si rayms. dagdag pa, daming connect din lahat ng miyembro. isapaw mo pa yung fact na tumabo sila sa fan base lalo na nung golden years ng pagbabanda (yr 2000s).



(yr 1990s)

itatama ko lang po ginoong drummer
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Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on February 11, 2016, 01:18:07 PM
(yr 1990s)

itatama ko lang po ginoong drummer

nung 90's kasi si Marc Abaya pa ang front man till 2005. and if you really think about it, nagboom talaga ang sandwich nung si raims na yung vocals (mainstream/pop wise)
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Post by: fretboard on February 11, 2016, 03:34:10 PM
Oo nga naman :lol: pero Kahit nga sa internet malakas din ang presence ng underground scene, kelangan open ka lang talaga


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Rakrakan festival was cancelled nung december dahil sa bagyo, pero tinuloy nitong january. Marami nang di nakapunta, pero andun ako at masasabi ko langya jampacked parin.(imagine kung natuloy nung december, mas marami. Yung iba galing pa visayas mindanao. So masasabi ko na andun parin ang support! Buhay parin!

lalo na kasi sa panahon ngayon na ang labanan e ang gig attendance

dati CD sales lang, tsaka merch sa mga record bars malalaman na kaagad kung sino ang HIT na banda.

dati access lang natin RADIO, Live gigs at local zines kaya todo suporta

today may iTunes na, spotify, youtube, vevo , VLC streaming etc. na nag aangat sa mga commercially abled BANDS 

pano naman ang mga pa take off palang? dito natin na wiwitness ang support ng mga concert goers at mga nanonood ng bar gigs

ang sarap lang din kasi kahit iilan lang or kilala mo na regular audience alam mong PACT kayo e, nagiging community na kayo.


(ang labo ng thoughts ko no? hahaha)