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Title: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: kernelsalonpas on July 29, 2012, 01:39:51 PM
this means you, on a personal level. not a tone thread. not a bashing thread. consider this as your personal checklist of what you still need to do, and i guess what are you doing about it.  :-D

more finger exercises.
and a change of patch cables.
still looking for strats that would match the toneS in my head.


how about you guys?  :)

lol... it's not about you giving tips to others, it's about you assessing yourself in an honest fashion.  :-\
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: tongski_02 on July 29, 2012, 01:42:26 PM
1. a very good amp
2. very good speakers
3. a lot of money
4. a lot of practice
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: gnarly on July 29, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
skills. improving it.kung may swerte pangbili ng mga gamit, di mas lalong okay.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: paul_sigua on July 29, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
Suhr backplate on my strat to minimize the noise

Practice.  :-D
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: vitek on July 29, 2012, 03:03:51 PM


Practice :-D
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: Letour on July 29, 2012, 03:35:58 PM
Record your playing somehow. Then you could hear yourself and listen for what you think you need.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: teleclem on July 29, 2012, 04:13:25 PM
Record your playing somehow. Then you could hear yourself and listen for what you think you need.

This helps a lot. Iba rin kasi yung naririnig mo when you're "in it" (ie. playing). Helps evaluate tone/playing.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: freemansj on July 29, 2012, 04:47:19 PM
What else do I need to improve my tone?

GUITAR LESSONS!   :-D
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: nepenthe on July 29, 2012, 05:01:14 PM
tone na naman?  :-P  you should ask yourself how you can create your own piece of art. masyadong madami dito ang concerned sa tone/ gear, that is never gonna end hangga't may mga bagong naglalabasan na gamit.

BTT: i agree with sir Letour. and a lot of practice.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: cayle on July 29, 2012, 05:05:16 PM
"Practice cures most tone issues." - John Suhr


More practice. Best guitar within reach. Better amplifier within reach.  :wave:
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: kernelsalonpas on July 29, 2012, 05:07:48 PM
lakan, haha.. self analysis thread naman to eh.. so personal opinion sa sariling sound.. so no bashing ^_^

there are of course gear-related and skill-related reasons and it varies per person. and there is always room for improvement  :-D
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: spetsnaz1123 on July 29, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
high-end stuff?  8-)

and practice  :-D
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: nepenthe on July 29, 2012, 05:19:11 PM
lakan, haha.. self analysis thread naman to eh.. so personal opinion sa sariling sound.. so no bashing ^_^

there are of course gear-related and skill-related reasons and it varies per person. and there is always room for improvement  :-D
sorry! haha. napanuod ko kasi Earthmover kagabi, man. i was blown away by the tone nung guitarist. he was using an Me-50 and a frigging Behringer amp but his sound was huge!i guess what im trying to point is sa huli ko pinoproblema yung tone ko after finalizing the arrangement of our song.

gearwise?i need a better amp. lol.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: dennis22opina on July 29, 2012, 08:43:02 PM
1) practice
2) practice
3) practice
4) better amp
5) better cables.. :-(
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: kernelsalonpas on July 29, 2012, 08:58:18 PM
sorry! haha. napanuod ko kasi Earthmover kagabi, man. i was blown away by the tone nung guitarist. he was using an Me-50 and a frigging Behringer amp but his sound was huge!i guess what im trying to point is sa huli ko pinoproblema yung tone ko after finalizing the arrangement of our song.
couldn't agree more. arrangement is a different plane altogether. :wink:
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: derekdecastro on July 29, 2012, 09:09:33 PM
IMO. Tone is your identity. We all have our own taste of tone. Tweak your knobs, find out what it does, find your tone. ;) Now, if it doesn't work out after doing that with the gear provided, then more gears to come most likely. lol.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: nepenthe on July 29, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
couldn't agree more. arrangement is a different plane altogether. :wink:
yep. walang paki mga nakikinig sa tone mo, as long as hindi masakit sa tenga.  :lol:

im gonna disagree with the Tone is your identity perspective, unless your Tone is mostly about your skillz/fingers. halintulad natin sa damit ang gears na nagbibigay sayo ng Tone mo. so the clothes is wearing you. clothes do not make the man. or the camera does not make the photographer. ahh you get my point.

at dahil na-modify na ni Voltz ang thread  :-P  i dont think may hinahanap ako na specific tone from gears na I want, siguro exception na yung Tubemeister 36, diba Derek? i make do with what I have right now.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: derekdecastro on July 29, 2012, 10:24:54 PM
yep. walang paki mga nakikinig sa tone mo, as long as hindi masakit sa tenga.  :lol:

im gonna disagree with the Tone is your identity perspective, unless your Tone is mostly about your skillz/fingers. halintulad natin sa damit ang gears na nagbibigay sayo ng Tone mo. so the clothes is wearing you. clothes do not make the man. or the camera does not make the photographer. ahh you get my point.

at dahil na-modify na ni Voltz ang thread  :-P  i dont think may hinahanap ako na specific tone from gears na I want, siguro exception na yung Tubemeister 36, diba Derek? i make do with what I have right now.
Not literally man, what i mean is we have different preferences of tone. Humans have their own identities, same with tone, its very unique! So what maybe good tone for me may not be good for you. :wave:

mismo yang tubemeister 36 na yan. kakaiyak. lol.
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: o2gulo on July 30, 2012, 10:34:03 AM
1) Practice ( this I need most)
2) MOAR AND BETTER AMP
3) BETTER PEDALS
4) ???
5) Profiit!!!!111one

In short, Time and Money and Motivation XD
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: ios on July 30, 2012, 10:55:24 AM
1. A band
2. inspiration
3. practice
4. $$$$$

 :-D
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: techbp on July 30, 2012, 11:58:33 AM
yep. walang paki mga nakikinig sa tone mo, as long as hindi masakit sa tenga.  :lol:

I agree with this. Kanya kanyang preference. Nakakatawa lang kase minsan yung mismong tumututog eh walang paki sa tone niya hehe. Basta tumunog dirt eh okay na, tipong ganun. Hindi aware kumbaga. Parang ; "Wow OD!" then kaskas "tama OD nga, okay na yan, game tugtog na" .. haha!

Sakin, more time for me to practice, during weekends na lang ako nakakapag jam...kulang na kulang hehe
Title: Re: What else do you need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: guitarman8294 on July 30, 2012, 12:07:16 PM
guide lang.

http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/columns/the_guide_to/8_ways_to_improve_your_tone.html
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: gainsucker on July 30, 2012, 02:15:47 PM
lots of skills, lots of money to buy the best gear, and not to work anymore so I can just concentrate on my playing
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: musikerongulul on July 30, 2012, 04:35:48 PM
1. Fender-tele jim root sig  :-D
2. trip kong bandmates
3. more time in the world
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: free2rock on July 30, 2012, 10:06:23 PM
Si Batman bahala sa tone ko.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SFq-anMYrcI/AAAAAAAAD7M/nNLU5ab3dR4/s400/george%2Bbarris%2Bbatman%2Bguitar.jpg)
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: ermonski on July 30, 2012, 10:14:26 PM
proper technique and the right attack to the strings helps a lot.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: kernelsalonpas on July 30, 2012, 11:28:55 PM
Si Batman bahala sa tone ko.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2kjisMm3M9Y/SFq-anMYrcI/AAAAAAAAD7M/nNLU5ab3dR4/s400/george%2Bbarris%2Bbatman%2Bguitar.jpg)

haha. i want that guitar! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: neicon27 on July 31, 2012, 04:42:48 PM
$100,000,000.00

then I'd have more time to play the guitar  :razz:
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: techbp on July 31, 2012, 04:49:17 PM
$100,000,000.00

then I'd have more time to play the guitar  :razz:

haha nice! kahit peso lang bro okay na
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: spetsnaz1123 on July 31, 2012, 04:51:00 PM
$100,000,000.00

then I'd have more time to play the guitar  :razz:

^make it $1 billion, libre namang mangarap  :-D
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: kernelsalonpas on July 31, 2012, 05:29:06 PM
$1B? b*tch please... $100T may budget pako para sa suit ni iron man  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: gainsucker on July 31, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
if you have a billion $$$, you think you'd still be playing a guitar?  <_<
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: musikerongulul on July 31, 2012, 05:58:33 PM
i'd have malmsteen play for me everymorning  :-P
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: kernelsalonpas on July 31, 2012, 10:01:00 PM
if you have a billion $$$, you think you'd still be playing a guitar?  <_<

malmsteen collects ferraris when he's not playing guitar  :-D
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: ToneChild on July 31, 2012, 10:21:40 PM
for me

1. wicked sounding vibrato

2. fender twin + ts808 to my ts30th

3. SRV strat, a strat with fat 50s, or a roadworn 60's strat, any will do

4. blues/jazz chops

pangarap, pangarap (kailangan pa magpractice ng matagal)
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on July 31, 2012, 10:23:40 PM
inspiration and motivation to practice.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: maxi_musikero on August 01, 2012, 09:31:43 AM
1. more time to practice
2. get back to gigging
3. form a new pedalboard
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: nepenthe on August 01, 2012, 10:07:09 AM
1. more time to practice
2. get back to gigging
3. form a new pedalboard
dude, you need time. that's it. lol. when ka ba malilibre uli?
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: maxi_musikero on August 01, 2012, 10:11:53 AM
dude, you need time. that's it. lol. when ka ba malilibre uli?

you got me, bro.  :-D

malilibre ako when i get the time.  :eek:
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: gypsyx on August 01, 2012, 10:44:11 AM
HEART!  :)
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: arkeetar on August 01, 2012, 12:12:48 PM
$100,000,000.00

then I'd have more time to play the guitar  :razz:

tax free!


Time! Hehe
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: Skybox on August 01, 2012, 12:16:06 PM
All I need now is a bunch of guitarded folks worshiping it.  :drool:
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: nathanmanansala on August 01, 2012, 12:50:35 PM
A dr.z z-wreck and a victoria tweed deluxe clone.

Tsaka kfc supreme bowl ala king.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: titser_marco on May 10, 2018, 08:02:06 PM
Practice.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: inexperience on May 11, 2018, 09:41:13 AM
Not to get easily bored or lazy on that gear. Damn, and a good warm-up for me stretches the playing for hours.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 11, 2018, 10:49:51 AM
a better dirt that will fit a noiseless SC Strat :(
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: firemodel55 on May 11, 2018, 11:33:05 AM
MORE MONEY...

and I apologize but its not PRACTICE. PRACTICE is what you need to be a GREAT GUITARIST as a musician. 

No amount of practice will make your fingers sound like a Les Paul when you are playing a Strat.  And no amount of note selection will make a bad sounding amp sound good.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on May 11, 2018, 12:02:21 PM
MORE MONEY...

and I apologize but its not PRACTICE. PRACTICE is what you need to be a GREAT GUITARIST as a musician. 

No amount of practice will make your fingers sound like a Les Paul when you are playing a Strat.  And no amount of note selection will make a bad sounding amp sound good.

+1 for life.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: titser_marco on May 11, 2018, 12:10:37 PM
MORE MONEY...

and I apologize but its not PRACTICE. PRACTICE is what you need to be a GREAT GUITARIST as a musician. 

No amount of practice will make your fingers sound like a Les Paul when you are playing a Strat.  And no amount of note selection will make a bad sounding amp sound good.
Given naman yun Alex; I guess I was replying in the context of all other things being equal, ie if you already had the best equipment in the world, what else would make your tone better.

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Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: robinonibor on May 11, 2018, 12:48:31 PM
really? wala?
..
.
tone is in the finger.
-CJV  :-D
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: shoegaze geezer on May 11, 2018, 01:17:59 PM
a good tube amp
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: gandydancer123 on May 11, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
more gigs
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: guitaricci on May 11, 2018, 05:38:49 PM
more gigs

yup. ako rin...sawa na ako ka tugtugan backing track. haha
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: firemodel55 on May 13, 2018, 05:57:12 AM
Given naman yun Alex; I guess I was replying in the context of all other things being equal, ie if you already had the best equipment in the world, what else would make your tone better.

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Er... I was trying to answer the post of the thread starter kaso lang nga late ko na ito nabasa.
Title: Re: What else do YOU need to do to improve your tone?
Post by: dewberry on May 14, 2018, 03:17:56 PM
Last thing I tried is to add Boost / Preamp pedal and to use the effects loop. And tama More gigs.