Local wood for guitar body

[djonathan]

1.Electric Jigsaw, ang gamit ko dun sa pag cut nung body. .
   Hint dun sa mga gagawa ng body; form the start bumibili ako ng wood sa mga gumagawa ng furniture sa mga province na nadadaanan ko. . trabaho ko kasi travel all over luzon kaya bili ako sa isabela or pangasinan. .  size(20 X 16 X 2 inches) patuyuin ko ng nga 1 year kung minsan naarawan and ulanan. . Kailangan dry talaga yung wood para di mag warp) then dalahin ko sa uli sa furn shop pa planer ko sa kapal na gusto ko. . . gawa ako ng template ng shape nung guitar na gusto ko. . . then trace ko dun sa wood then cut ko ng jigsaw. .  . then shaping. . . chisel, martilyo, woodfile, sandpaper, drill, screwdriver etc. .  .

2. Yap, Gumawa na rin ako ng neck (nung wala pa ko pambili late 1980,s), out of big slab of good hardwood(guijo, my favorite wood: parang maple din sya: correct me if im wrong pls.) shape it(very very hard labor) then carefully pantayin yung magiging fretboard then decide yung gusto mo scale length nung guitar para sa sukat nung spacing ng frets, meron formula para ma compute yun, di ko maalala. .  post ko, next wik, nasa prob ung kodigo ko. . (Drawback: wala truss rod) pro wala naman ako na experience na nag warp nun. . mga 20 guitars siguro na sell ko sa mga barkada ko na bands na tumutugtog sa shakeys nun. . . mga patay na cguro(joke ). . este veteran na ngayon. . .
meron ako souveneir na guitar kaya lang nasa california, its is still very nice and sound good, ,  made of narra yung body. . . picturan ko pag balik ko dun sa feb. .  yabang. .  hehe. .   

Baka tanong mo ano na ko ngayon. . .  Comm. engr. sa Transco. . . hobby ko lang making and Playing guitar. . . .  Band: "Pangas band" kasama ko si tubero. . 

hikli tanong nitotela. . .  kwento na buhay   

hope that helps!

intresting thread. maraming kahoy dito sa isabela. na cut na din. althi i dont know squat about building san sa isabela ka nag pupunta bro?

[maxi_musikero]

but if you look at instruments from all over, the luthiers made them from local wood.  before free trade and all they made do with what was available and i guess the yardstick was set.  i often wondered what if stardivarius only had malungay for tonewood and leo fender only had santol.  we'd probably GAS over malungay and santol guitars today 

my take on this - if they only had malunggay or santol for tonewood, they won't be where they are now.  imo, not all types of wood are designed to be used for musical instruments. 

[jbarot]

my take on this - if they only had malunggay or santol for tonewood, they won't be where they are now.  imo, not all types of wood are designed to be used for musical instruments. 

because some woods just sound dead...
i definitely agree!  stadovariyussi who??  but he will still be making violins, tapos ulam niya munggo at malungay
i wish i could get my hands on some bosnian maple, the same stuff he used.  mura lang online (relatively) but shipping and customs will probably kill my wallet.  still, its on my sights, WASSING for it...

[maxi_musikero]

i wish i could get my hands on some bosnian maple, the same stuff he used.  mura lang online (relatively) but shipping and customs will probably kill my wallet.  still, its on my sights, WASSING for it...

maybe you can get in touch with some of our shippers here in PhilMusic and ask for a quote.  they might be able to help you bring them in.   

[jbarot]

maybe you can get in touch with some of our shippers here in PhilMusic and ask for a quote.  they might be able to help you bring them in.   

hmmm...you may have something there...

[free2rock]

maybe you can get in touch with some of our shippers here in PhilMusic and ask for a quote.  they might be able to help you bring them in.   

Or pobox.ph

[jbarot]

Or pobox.ph

hmmm...have you tried this bro?  how much is their mark up?  if for a $50 dollar purchase (shipping included) how much will they charge?

[free2rock]

hmmm...have you tried this bro?  how much is their mark up?  if for a $50 dollar purchase (shipping included) how much will they charge?

They price according to the volume, not the weight--which i great. Best shoot them an email for custom dimensions.

[r_chino18]

send me a plank and let's see what happens
free ba
hehehe

It definitely perked my interest.  Prior to my cebu trip, I haven't heard of it.    Oh, and "banuyo" as well.

Just got home. Mom and I bought that Igim stuff from the hardware. I thought it was furniture per se (cabinet, tables, chairs, etc), pero parang parts lang pala. Don't know for sure kung baka meron din talagang malalaking furniture na ginagamit siya. Another wood na ginagamit din sa ganitong part ay yung Gemelina. I think I saw one before kasi thesis yun ng classmate ko sa isang Pulp and Paper subject. It was a relatively white wood.

Anyway, it was the merchandiser from the hardware that said it was Igim. It was also pretty hard to acquire din daw. Can't send you guys a plank sample so I just took some pics a while ago. The grains look good. This is a cabinet door which measures 12x30 inches, with a thickness of 1 inch.

[Musikerochan]

hmmm, ngayon parang gusto kong makipag-bonding dun sa mga loggers dito na kapitbahay namin i'll be fishing for some wood specimen siguro in the days to come.

anu-ano ba ang mga usual suspects natin? ang alam namumutol sila ng palo-tsina, mahogany (though im not sure kung anong species), etc.

[jbarot]

Just got home. Mom and I bought that Igim stuff from the hardware. I thought it was furniture per se (cabinet, tables, chairs, etc), pero parang parts lang pala. Don't know for sure kung baka meron din talagang malalaking furniture na ginagamit siya. Another wood na ginagamit din sa ganitong part ay yung Gemelina. I think I saw one before kasi thesis yun ng classmate ko sa isang Pulp and Paper subject. It was a relatively white wood.

Anyway, it was the merchandiser from the hardware that said it was Igim. It was also pretty hard to acquire din daw. Can't send you guys a plank sample so I just took some pics a while ago. The grains look good. This is a cabinet door which measures 12x30 inches, with a thickness of 1 inch.

bro is there any way to see the end grain?  i just want to find out how it was cut.  da best if the grains are 60-90 degrees with respect to the wide side.  sana medyo quartersawn.  if not, baka pwedeng neck wood yan, pero laminared. its too thin to use for solid bodies (unless you stack it).
does it dent when you press your fingernail on it?

[r_chino18]

bro is there any way to see the end grain?  i just want to find out how it was cut.  da best if the grains are 60-90 degrees with respect to the wide side.  sana medyo quartersawn.  if not, baka pwedeng neck wood yan, pero laminared. its too thin to use for solid bodies (unless you stack it).
does it dent when you press your fingernail on it?

Will try to snap some more pic tomorrow bro. Nagkataon lang na yung dimensions nung pinto ng cabinet ay 1 inch lang ang thickness kaya siguro manipis. Hehe.

About the fingernail, it does dent, but not much. Just a really small denting, masakit siya sa kuko if I press any harder.

4th pic bro shows the end grain.

Bale yung 1st pic, parang top view yan nung cabinet door pag naka flat lang sa sahig.

2nd pic, parang 1st pic din pero angled lang yung pagkakakuha ng pic.

3rd pic, parang 1st pic din pero mas malapit yung focus.

4th pic, yun yung pinaka edge nung top surface niya. Parang carved kasi yung dating niya.

5th and 6th pic, yan yung 1 inch na thickness niya. Although medyo inconsistent kasi hindi na siya part nung top wood mismo. Sa frame na yan nung cabinet door.

[ARTificial]

hmmm, ngayon parang gusto kong makipag-bonding dun sa mga loggers dito na kapitbahay namin i'll be fishing for some wood specimen siguro in the days to come.

anu-ano ba ang mga usual suspects natin? ang alam namumutol sila ng palo-tsina, mahogany (though im not sure kung anong species), etc.

  Naisip ko naman kapag nag mountaineering ulit kami somewhere in Laguna, dami kasing mahogany dun, iniiwan ng mga illegal loggers sa bundok tapos dun nila chinachop-chop tapos inuunti-unti nila ang pag bababa, naisip ko kumupit pag wala na sila
kaso paano? magdadala ako ng Saw sa Bundok? tapos papahirapan ko sarili ko sa pagbababa nung kahoy na yun., for sure dagdag bigat sa Bag kong malaki,.

[jbarot]

Will try to snap some more pic tomorrow bro. Nagkataon lang na yung dimensions nung pinto ng cabinet ay 1 inch lang ang thickness kaya siguro manipis. Hehe.

About the fingernail, it does dent, but not much. Just a really small denting, masakit siya sa kuko if I press any harder.

4th pic bro shows the end grain.

Bale yung 1st pic, parang top view yan nung cabinet door pag naka flat lang sa sahig.

2nd pic, parang 1st pic din pero angled lang yung pagkakakuha ng pic.

3rd pic, parang 1st pic din pero mas malapit yung focus.

4th pic, yun yung pinaka edge nung top surface niya. Parang carved kasi yung dating niya.

5th and 6th pic, yan yung 1 inch na thickness niya. Although medyo inconsistent kasi hindi na siya part nung top wood mismo. Sa frame na yan nung cabinet door.

pre if you sand the end smooth you'll see which direction the grain is going

and ask if the supplier has 2 inch planks.  para sa solid body.

is the wood heavy?

[Musikerochan]

Naisip ko naman kapag nag mountaineering ulit kami somewhere in Laguna, dami kasing mahogany dun, iniiwan ng mga illegal loggers sa bundok tapos dun nila chinachop-chop tapos inuunti-unti nila ang pag bababa, naisip ko kumupit pag wala na sila
kaso paano? magdadala ako ng Saw sa Bundok? tapos papahirapan ko sarili ko sa pagbababa nung kahoy na yun., for sure dagdag bigat sa Bag kong malaki,.

PMusic forumers and their crazy ideas

wag na tol, baka maispatan ka nila, habulin ka pa pababa sa bundok. take note, may bitbit kang mabigat na kahoy, aabutin ka nila tiyak hehehe.

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the pic above looks a lot like my bare LP i posted in another thread.

[maxi_musikero]

Will try to snap some more pic tomorrow bro. Nagkataon lang na yung dimensions nung pinto ng cabinet ay 1 inch lang ang thickness kaya siguro manipis. Hehe.

About the fingernail, it does dent, but not much. Just a really small denting, masakit siya sa kuko if I press any harder.

4th pic bro shows the end grain.

Bale yung 1st pic, parang top view yan nung cabinet door pag naka flat lang sa sahig.

2nd pic, parang 1st pic din pero angled lang yung pagkakakuha ng pic.

3rd pic, parang 1st pic din pero mas malapit yung focus.

4th pic, yun yung pinaka edge nung top surface niya. Parang carved kasi yung dating niya.

5th and 6th pic, yan yung 1 inch na thickness niya. Although medyo inconsistent kasi hindi na siya part nung top wood mismo. Sa frame na yan nung cabinet door.

ano ba ang english name ng Igim bro? 

bro is there any way to see the end grain?  i just want to find out how it was cut.  da best if the grains are 60-90 degrees with respect to the wide side.  sana medyo quartersawn.  if not, baka pwedeng neck wood yan, pero laminared. its too thin to use for solid bodies (unless you stack it).
does it dent when you press your fingernail on it?

if that's taken from a hardware, mukhang malabo na quartersawn yan.

[r_chino18]

pre if you sand the end smooth you'll see which direction the grain is going

and ask if the supplier has 2 inch planks.  para sa solid body.

is the wood heavy?

Can't do modifications on the cabinet door bro, it's going to be used sa pinapagawang cabinet ng mom ko eh. So I guess kung ano lang kaya ko mapicturan, hanggang dun lang ako.

The 30x12x1 door weighs a flat 2kgs.. around 4.4lbs.

ano ba ang english name ng Igim bro? 

No idea bro.

[Rmansh]

sir Jbarot, pwede ba ako magpost nun sa akin? i recently stripped my guitar and sanded it, have no idea what kind of wood is it. 

[jbarot]

sir Jbarot, pwede ba ako magpost nun sa akin? i recently stripped my guitar and sanded it, have no idea what kind of wood is it. 

pre i'm not a botanist, but i'm sure when you post a pic here fellow forumites may help identify it.  and this is not my thread.  but i'm sure no one will mind

did you fix your popping fret?

[Rmansh]

pre i'm not a botanist, but i'm sure when you post a pic here fellow forumites may help identify it.  and this is not my thread.  but i'm sure no one will mind

did you fix your popping fret?

i tried.....and failed.....lols.......the gap is too small for a shim insert or kulang lang ako sa diskarte hehe. i'll try to glue it again or maybe use a clamp.......pag sinipag

[jbarot]

i tried.....and failed.....lols.......the gap is too small for a shim insert or kulang lang ako sa diskarte hehe. i'll try to glue it again or maybe use a clamp.......pag sinipag

try using paper.  once it absorbs the glue it will become rock hard

[Rmansh]

try using paper.  once it absorbs the glue it will become rock hard

good idea will try that one too. thanks


eto yun stripped body, pinaglaruan ko lang, thinking of repainting it. its a local guitar with a very thick paint, daming layer / coats. wag nyo na tanong if this has the tone and timbre because its just a project guitar
any ideas? curious lang

[jbarot]

i have no idea what wood that is bro.  but i bet it would look good with walnut stain to pop the grain out. but thats just me.
sorry for not being able to help

[Rmansh]

i have no idea what wood that is bro.  but i bet it would look good with walnut stain to pop the grain out. but thats just me.
sorry for not being able to help

nah we are having fun, woody fun  but i will try that walnut stain.

BTW, this is a 15+ year old RJ rokker i bought for 5k iirc with amp pa . yun neck nya ganyan din yun wood. (reminds me of coco lumber lols). the alnico pro 2 SD sounded full in this guitar, but trebly on my MIJ basswood ibanez. so i thought it works best with trebly pickups.

[jbarot]

personally i dont like painting over wood that has good looks.  i look at the maple tops that are stained/painted over and i go "why??"

but that's just me, thats just my taste