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GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« on: December 19, 2009, 08:05:34 PM »
If you want real balls on your guitar, get yourself a Graphtech nut!



http://graphtech.com/

This thread is dedicated not only for Graphtech nuts but also for other Graphtech products. I made this thread for reference sa reviews, insights, at tutorial from Graphtech users. This thread could also be helpful and beneficial to those na nag-iisip kung ano ba meron sa graphtech at sa mga may alinlangan pa.

Feel free to post your tutorials, comments, and reviews.

here are some other references from other forums.
http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=168283&highlight=graphtech+saddles
http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155919&highlight=Graphtech

*** if you have questions on the processes.. please don't quote the pictures.. i also refrain others from quoting pictures on this thread.. you can just quote the sentences and numbers.. labelled naman sila kaya madali ma-identify kung san malabo.. this is for the benefit of us all.. para hindi maging masyadong mabagal pag iloload.. this might be a pic heavy thread lalo na sa tutorials..
go lang kayo sa pagpost ng pics ng graphtech upgraded guitars niyo and tutorials.. be kind to others nalang when quoting***


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« Last Edit: December 20, 2009, 07:22:14 PM by r_chino18 »

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 08:32:09 PM »
Birthday ko kahapon and i'm feeling bored today so i thought of getting my Graphtech nut and install it on my guitar.
Here's how i did it..

Reference:
I used a PRS SE Standard and a Graphtech PT-6060-00 BLACK TUSQ XL which is a good replacement with regards to measurements.

Tips:
1. Be very careful when choosing a nut, make sure tama sa lahat ng measurements, especially string spacing. ok lang yung may konting allowance na pwede pa isand, per when it comes to string spacing, dapat exact or very close.

2. This task of installing the nut ay relatively kayang gawin ng isang ordinary person. You just need to have a few basic materials that i'll state as we go further.

3. Don't be too hasty sa paggawa. Take it slow.

Tutorial:

1. Things i used are as follows:
** perhaps you can use Elmer's glue. kelangan mo lang naman mai fix yung nut. the string would also grip it down bigtime. pero i used wood glue kasi wala ako Elmer's.
** Something sharp and fine. i found the small knife sa swiss knife ko to be very useful and efficient para dito.


2. Notice how uneven the stock nut was cut? hindi siya sakto sa edges. ewwww.....


3. Remove your strings and let's get it on!!
Slowly slice the junction.. avoid slicing the wood.. avoid slicing the stock nut.. what we want is to remove the whole stock nut from being glued.. be very careful.. do it a little sa left at sa right.. and sa taas..






4. Pag feel mo pwede na siya matanggal.. here's what i did.. of course you can opt for another method..


5. Then clean and lightly sand yung pinagtanggalan mo ng nut.. some wood remained pagkatanggal ko so i had to even the nut pocket..


6. Testing the Graphtech PT-6060-00 nut..


7. Comparison of stock (right) and graphtech (left) nut..


8. I based my measurements sa stock nut.. The graphtech nut seemed to be a direct replacement pero masyado siya mataas so i had to sand/file down the bottom part.. i did a quick mark dun sa graphtech nut para alam ko kung hanggang saan ko isasand and here's how i did the mark..


9. i need not show a photo of the sanding process.. pero first i did was to use a low grade sandpaper para mabilis maubos then a higher grade para dahan dahan nalang at mas pino siya para smooth yung ilalim.. be very careful with this proces.. sayang ang nut pag sumobra ang sand.. but it can be fixed..

10. when you think it's enough, lagay mo sa nut slot.. put the high and low E strings and check kung ok na ang height niya.. don't make it too high, mahihirapang ka dipain yung strings, nor too low kasi baka magbuzz naman.. yung tama lang..

11. pag ok na talaga, put a little glue sa ilalim and fix the nut sa nut pocket.. habang basa pa yung glue, wipe those excess and coming out with a damp towel para malinis.. mahirap matanggal yung mess pag tuyo or semi tuyo na yung glue.. restring your guitar and tune to pitch..
here's mine with the new Graphtech PT-6060-00 nut..
Perfect fit yung particular na model na yung in terms of thickness, string spacing, at width.. height lang ang kelangan isand..


Comments:
1. it was very easy to tune. i just tuned to pitch then stretched the strings.. and did this twice.. then played the guitar with some major bending and stuff.. then tuned it again to pitch.. SOLVE! konting pagtono lang ok na siya.. no more string binding stuff..
2. i'm yet to see how long this baby stays in tune with this nut.. it definitely solved my tuning issues.. no need for locking tuners.. have i gotten locking tuners, i would have wasted 4000php on a brand new set.. with the graphtec nut, i didn't have to spend more than 1000..

FTW!!

*** if you have questions on my process.. please don't quote the pictures.. i also refrain others from quoting pictures on this thread.. you can just quote the sentences and numbers.. labelled naman sila kaya madali ma-identify kung san malabo.. this is for the benefit of us all.. para hindi maging masyadong mabagal pag iloload.. this might be a pic heavy thread lalo na sa tutorials..
go lang kayo sa pagpost ng pics ng graphtech upgraded guitars niyo and tutorials.. be kind to others nalang when quoting***
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 08:37:15 PM by r_chino18 »

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 08:48:44 PM »
here's my brother's Ibanez RG321MH which he installed a Graphtech PT-6643-00 nut. very neatly done.







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« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 11:10:36 PM by r_chino18 »

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 09:09:30 PM »
2. Notice how uneven the stock nut was cut? hindi siya sakto sa edges. ewwww.....

ewwwwww....  :lol:

belated happy birthday bro... and nice thread...  :-)
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 09:19:37 PM »
nice guitars bro...

belated happy birthday man...  :-D


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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 11:30:49 PM »
ganda naman..lalo na sa ibanez swak na swak...
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2009, 12:07:26 AM »
2. Notice how uneven the stock nut was cut? hindi siya sakto sa edges. ewwww.....
ewwwwww....  :lol:
belated happy birthday bro... and nice thread...  :-)

haha.. eww talaga.. nut talaga ang unang gripe sa mga SE..
thanks sa greeting..  :-)

nice guitars bro...
belated happy birthday man...  :-D

thanks sa greeting bro..  :-)

ganda naman..lalo na sa ibanez swak na swak...

yup.. very minor lang na pag sand ng height ang ginawa dun.. saktong sakto talaga..
thanks sa greeting..  :-)

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2009, 12:18:02 AM »
gusto ko na talaga umorder kay sir chox.

kaso 750,big help na yan pandagdag sa amp...by next year nalang siguro...

ang maganda pa dyan free shipping pa...
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2009, 09:11:14 AM »
Nice share  :lol:
buti na lang SE din gitara ko, may reference ako parati  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2009, 11:39:32 AM »
Ayos ah. Naga- GAS tuloy ako  :-)
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2009, 04:19:07 PM »
kung sakali bumili ako pre, sayo ko ipapakabit ha? heheheh
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2009, 04:27:32 PM »
Nice share  :lol:
buti na lang SE din gitara ko, may reference ako parati  :mrgreen:

haha.. onga eh.. more upgrades to come.. sa susunod acoustic naman..  :-)

Ayos ah. Naga- GAS tuloy ako  :-)

be one of us bro.. haha..

kung sakali bumili ako pre, sayo ko ipapakabit ha? heheheh

patay tayo jan.. sundan nalang ang tutorial..  :-)
kaya naman siya na DIY eh.. diskerte lang yan.. meron din naman tutorial nsa packaging ng graphtech eh kaya wala dapat ipag-alala.. marami resources on how to..  :-)

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2009, 05:06:22 PM »
Sir r_chino18 san nyo po binili yang graphtech nut? Magkanu po pati? :roll:
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2009, 05:47:50 PM »
Sir r_chino18 san nyo po binili yang graphtech nut? Magkanu po pati? :roll:

i ordered it from sir chox (masterchoxter).. meron siya thread sa guitar accessoris classifieds.. PM him for quotations nalang bro..  :-)

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2009, 07:16:02 PM »
i ordered it from sir chox (masterchoxter).. meron siya thread sa guitar accessoris classifieds.. PM him for quotations nalang bro..  :-)

Thanks.  :-)
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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2009, 09:51:39 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2009, 09:53:08 PM »
I've been using Graphtech nuts on my main guitar for about three years now. I underestimated how much it could change a guitar's sound. I didn't really pay attention back then, but when I tried going back to my guitar's original bone nut, I couldn't stand it. It worked really well, in my case -- both in sound and tuning stability.

Word of caution for heavy trem users: make sure you have at least one backup nut. These self-lubricating Graphtech nuts can wear out quickly. In my case, one year -- back when I was abusing my Wilkinson trem. But I haven't replaced it since I stopped using the trem regularly two years ago.
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2009, 10:07:00 PM »
I've been using Graphtech nuts on my main guitar for about three years now. I underestimated how much it could change a guitar's sound. I didn't really pay attention back then, but when I tried going back to my guitar's original bone nut, I couldn't stand it. It worked really well, in my case -- both in sound and tuning stability.

Word of caution for heavy trem users: make sure you have at least one backup nut. These self-lubricating Graphtech nuts can wear out quickly. In my case, one year -- back when I was abusing my Wilkinson trem. But I haven't replaced it since I stopped using the trem regularly two years ago.

Cool. I didn't know you used Graphtech too. by the way, i sent you a pm.  :-)

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2009, 07:21:30 AM »
ano bang mas maganda graphtech o earvana?

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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2009, 07:30:28 AM »
just got my graphtech order from chox last Saturday!  tamang tama pupunta ako kay Elegee on Tuesday para sa initial set-up ng gitara ko.  :-)
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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2009, 08:48:55 AM »
ano bang mas maganda graphtech o earvana?

Apples and oranges.  The Earvana is a compensated nut.  If you want to compare it with something, that thing would be the Buzzy Feiten Tuning system since they both forward a solution to equal temperament instruments.  Another would be fan-fretted necks.  Yung Graphtech nut naman is nothing else but a nut made out of graphite or graphite impregnated materials.  I have a 335-clone, the tone of which I found a bit not to my liking - matingkad masyado.  Also there seemed to be some string binding at the nut and bridge so that sort of made intonating a bit of a problem.  I had a tech replace the nut with a black graphtech nut and I replaced the Tune-O-Matic bridge with a Tonepros locking TOM bridge with Graphtech saddles.  Been loving it ever since - even the tech likes the improvement in tone he had his Tokai les paul's nut and saddles replaced with Graphtech products.  Ikaw lang ang makakasabi if Graphtech parts are for you or not.  Some people I've spoken to said graphite took out a bit of what the original nut/saddles gave to the instrument's character.   I dunno - maybe my clone didn't have character to begin with that there was nothing to take away or modify.  Either way, i'm quite happy with what the Graphtechs did to the sound of my clone.

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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2009, 08:57:24 AM »
Apples and oranges.  The Earvana is a compensated nut.  If you want to compare it with something, that thing would be the Buzzy Feiten Tuning system since they both forward a solution to equal temperament instruments.  Another would be fan-fretted necks.  Yung Graphtech nut naman is nothing else but a nut made out of graphite or graphite impregnated materials.  I have a 335-clone, the tone of which I found a bit not to my liking - matingkad masyado.  Also there seemed to be some string binding at the nut and bridge so that sort of made intonating a bit of a problem.  I had a tech replace the nut with a black graphtech nut and I replaced the Tune-O-Matic bridge with a Tonepros locking TOM bridge with Graphtech saddles.  Been loving it ever since - even the tech likes the improvement in tone he had his Tokai les paul's nut and saddles replaced with Graphtech products.  Ikaw lang ang makakasabi if Graphtech parts are for you or not.  Some people I've spoken to said graphite took out a bit of what the original nut/saddles gave to the instrument's character.   I dunno - maybe my clone didn't have character to begin with that there was nothing to take away or modify.  Either way, i'm quite happy with what the Graphtechs did to the sound of my clone.

Well said. and i'm glad your happy with your graphtech equipped guitar. Graphtech is supposed to improve tone and eliminate tuning issues with respect to the nut. Earvana compensates the tuning for each string. They have different purposes.

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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2009, 09:02:44 AM »
mr R_CHINO,

my prs se's stock nut it exact fit, and as far as i remember mas mahaba ng konti ang graphtech ko, bat kaya ganun? diba dapat pare pareho?
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Re: GRAPHTECH Appreciation and Tutorial Thread
« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2009, 09:12:50 AM »
mr R_CHINO,

my prs se's stock nut it exact fit, and as far as i remember mas mahaba ng konti ang graphtech ko, bat kaya ganun? diba dapat pare pareho?

hey bro. exact fit yung stock nut mo sa nut slot, unlike yung stock nut ko? mas mataas talaga yung PT-6060 kesa sa stock nut, that's why it would require some sanding of the bottom part. fit kasi yung E-Espacing, at nut length nung PT-6060 for PRS SE guitars.

it's always safe na mas mataas siya para may allowance sa pag-adjust or pag sand.. if mas mahaba ng konti yung graphtech, you can just sand down the sides nung nut para magfit sa nut slot.. :wink:
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2009, 09:28:37 AM »
hey bro. exact fit yung stock nut mo sa nut slot, unlike yung stock nut ko? mas mataas talaga yung PT-6060 kesa sa stock nut, that's why it would require some sanding of the bottom part. fit kasi yung E-Espacing, at nut length nung PT-6060 for PRS SE guitars.

yes, diba yung sa iyo mas maikli ng kaunti? yung may EWW part ka sa 1st post mo? ehehe..

sakin exact naman, so when i fitted my graphtech parang mas mahaba ng kaunti.. yung height ok lang sa akin, no prob, i love "high" action.. :-D
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