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Offline pitongjerome

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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2009, 08:24:05 AM »
wag ka mag shift, wag mo iwan ang isa, dagdagan mo ang kaalaman mo, magagamit mo ito para makipag jam sa ibat ibang tao, lugar. pwede kang sa rockband sa bar, o sa hotel jazz band, o diba andami mo pwede salihan!
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I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones

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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2009, 08:25:33 AM »
Quote from: pitongjerome on October 01, 2009, 08:24:05 AM
wag ka mag shift, wag mo iwan ang isa, dagdagan mo ang kaalaman mo, magagamit mo ito para makipag jam sa ibat ibang tao, lugar. pwede kang sa rockband sa bar, o sa hotel jazz band, o diba andami mo pwede salihan!

moar sidelinez.  :lol: :lol:
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2009, 08:27:44 AM »
for me maturity is when you go in a more technical way of doing music...

i think maturity is not only in the music itself but also to the band members...

example, bagohan palang kayo as a band, so plug and play kau and wala ng adjustments or tuning, isip nu lang makatugtog, bahala na, parang bata ang dating... BUT when u grow mature, namimili na tau ng amps, fine tuning na tau sa effects natin, ung way of composing riffs, lyrics, or drum line pinaplano na talaga... i think u get the point...

and also sa members, mature na din magisip...

metal head kasi ako but ive experienced that... no comment sa jazz pero gusto ko un pang pakalma... :)

about shifting wala naman probs sa maturity, but iiba na naman enviromnment mo kasi from rock to jazz... so adjust ka... meron na bang rock star nag shift into jazz?
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2009, 08:28:02 AM »
Quote from: fusionenigma on October 01, 2009, 08:19:04 AM
rock guitarist reaches a plateu when it becomes very difficult to find the time or energy it takes to get to the next level of guitar playing. his taste changes. he listens to other forms of music. he decides which direction he wants to go: jazz or classical...

(jazz) ...he starts to add chromaticism to his soloing/improvisation. he listens to bebop. he abandons the scalar/modal appraoch. he learns to solo based on the scale where the chord/chord progression can be found. his understanding of jazz becomes more in depth. he starts not to rely on the mechanics of chord scales. he struggles to learn chord-tone soloing. eventually, this approach becomes more natural to him as he develops develops good jazz rhythm (swing feel). he explores other chord voicings. then he starts to enjoy the sound of a good acoustic guitar and an electric guitar plugged directly to a clean amplifier. he develops a strong repertoire of standard tunes. he is now 70 years old.

(classical) OT na  :-D


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guthrie govan is not jazz. just wanted to get that off my chest.

agree!  :lol:
no problem bro, i'm just implying he inputs jazz lines just like Francis M. and other (mainstream) artists do  :lol:
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2009, 08:32:29 AM »
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« Reply #30 on: October 01, 2009, 08:33:10 AM »
Quote from: ierofan on October 01, 2009, 08:25:33 AM
moar sidelinez.  :lol: :lol:

Kat Agarrado... with Aya Yuson or with SinoSikat... past band... Passage... iba iba... pero distinctly Kat
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #31 on: October 01, 2009, 08:39:33 AM »
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #32 on: October 01, 2009, 08:41:44 AM »
Quote from: win32dotex on October 01, 2009, 08:27:44 AM
for me maturity is when you go in a more technical way of doing music...

i think maturity is not only in the music itself but also to the band members...

example, bagohan palang kayo as a band, so plug and play kau and wala ng adjustments or tuning, isip nu lang makatugtog, bahala na, parang bata ang dating... BUT when u grow mature, namimili na tau ng amps, fine tuning na tau sa effects natin, ung way of composing riffs, lyrics, or drum line pinaplano na talaga... i think u get the point...

and also sa members, mature na din magisip...

metal head kasi ako but ive experienced that... no comment sa jazz pero gusto ko un pang pakalma... :)

about shifting wala naman probs sa maturity, but iiba na naman enviromnment mo kasi from rock to jazz... so adjust ka... meron na bang rock star nag shift into jazz?

i beg to disagree  :-D maturity means mas na appreciate mo na yun little nuances, yun mga bata nga ang mahilig sa technical stuff, samantala pag mature na ang isang musician, any genre, may economy and efficiency na ang writing and playing style  :-D and mas meron willingness to connect with people unlike younger musicians who has more tendencies to play what they like at may gung-ho attitude....rock stars to jazz and vice versa, medyo madami, hehehehe, and besides, medyo limiting ang labels, isa nga sa famous disagreements sa music, jack bruce always maintained that isa sa main reason bakit na dissolve ang cream was that clapton viewed the group as a blues rock outfit while bruce and ginger baker always believed that cream was a jazz trio........peace bro  :-D
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #33 on: October 01, 2009, 08:45:21 AM »
Quote from: ierofan on October 01, 2009, 08:39:33 AM
moar gas!  :lol: :lol:

more magical instruments with the vaunted "hi**w"!
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2009, 08:46:26 AM »
maintain natin na friendly thread, i like eh  :lol:
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2009, 08:51:16 AM »
you dont shift, but you evolve :-D
if you like rock, then try a little jazz once in a while, add it to your arsenal :-D
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #36 on: October 01, 2009, 08:56:09 AM »
Quote from: pitongjerome on October 01, 2009, 08:45:21 AM
more magical instruments with the vaunted "hi**w"!

hehe aaawwww...
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #37 on: October 01, 2009, 09:06:18 AM »
filing ko  di naman nagshift

siguro pag your trying to explore and learn another music genre with your heart and dedication

for me thats maturity

marami ring musicians ang nagmamature sa rock hehe

nice thread :-D
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #38 on: October 01, 2009, 09:34:00 AM »
ang jazzzzzzzy.. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #39 on: October 01, 2009, 09:38:50 AM »
I love jazz and I love rock pero di pa rin ako nagmamature playing wise  :lol:



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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #40 on: October 01, 2009, 09:42:07 AM »
Parang life cycle kasi ng guitarista yan... Una matutuwa sa shred, galing kasi nakakabilib, then magsasawa and magmemellow down (lalo na yung walang banda), magiging blues then magtry ng solo arrangements, almost jazz na.  Tapos acoustic na.  :mrgreen:  
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #41 on: October 01, 2009, 09:42:39 AM »
Quote from: pitongjerome on October 01, 2009, 08:24:05 AM
wag ka mag shift, wag mo iwan ang isa, dagdagan mo ang kaalaman mo, magagamit mo ito para makipag jam sa ibat ibang tao, lugar. pwede kang sa rockband sa bar, o sa hotel jazz band, o diba andami mo pwede salihan!
this is right!
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #42 on: October 01, 2009, 09:45:03 AM »
Jazz sucks.  :-P
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #43 on: October 01, 2009, 09:46:37 AM »
Quote from: rednas on October 01, 2009, 09:42:07 AM
Parang life cycle kasi ng guitarista yan... Una matutuwa sa shred, galing kasi nakakabilib, then magsasawa and magmemellow down (lalo na yung walang banda), magiging blues then magtry ng solo arrangements, almost jazz na.  Tapos acoustic na.  :mrgreen:  
ganto nga kadalasan kong naririnig sa mga jazz player hehe :-D
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #44 on: October 01, 2009, 09:47:04 AM »
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #45 on: October 01, 2009, 09:48:16 AM »
tell that to zakk wylde or to kerry king! kung di ka pupulutin sa kangkungan! hehe :-D
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #46 on: October 01, 2009, 09:50:08 AM »
Quote from: calculon on October 01, 2009, 09:48:16 AM
tell that to zakk wylde or to kerry king! kung di ka pupulutin sa kangkungan! hehe :-D

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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2009, 09:51:36 AM »
Damn definitions. Matured ka na pag lampas-buko na.  :mrgreen:
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2009, 09:52:11 AM »
Quote from: BAMF on October 01, 2009, 09:51:36 AM
Damn definitions. Matured ka na pag lampas-buko na.  :mrgreen:

Mismo.  :mrgreen:
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Re: mature ka daw pag nagshift ka from rock to jazz..
« Reply #49 on: October 01, 2009, 09:59:19 AM »

very nice interview, medyo related sa topic sinabi ni Larry Carlton around 7:00 minute ng video.
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