local drummers vs foreign drummers

[jun_BALARAW]

ask ko lang..... sa tingin niyo ba may mga local drummers tayo na pwede natin ipagmalaki sa foreign countries at i-compare kina dave weckl? steve godd? dennis chambers? mike portnoy? v. donati? etc.

in short meron bang magaling dito na mas magaling sakanila??

[drumster]

Yes, we have homegrown talents who happen to be at par with some of the world's best drummers.

Jun Regalado... Mar Dizon... Koko Bermejo... Benjie Mendez... Mike Alba...  These are a few examples of Pinoy drummers whose talents and expertise are of world-class caliber.  Ang daming magagaling na Pinoy drummers.

Personally, I can't really say if there is a certain Pinoy drummer who is as good or even better than a certain foreign drumming superstar.  And it's not really about comparison.  When he or she is a fine artist who is passionate, plays great music, and has the power to move and inspire me, I look up to them.

 

[toybitz]

the common notion is whatever the foreign acts can do, the Pinoy can also do.

i strongly believe this.  we all have the same number of bones and muscles.  size doesn't matter.

but, talo tayo sa....CREATIVITY.

[Bammbamm]

Medyo skeptic ako dito kc yung Music mismo na tinutugtog nating mga Pinoy eh pulos foreign influence.
Siguro kung may mag iinovate na artist at i-incorporate nya yung mga indegenous percussion instruments ng Pinas sa setup ng kit nya,Pwede mangyari 'to.
It's quite ironical naman kasi kung madaig nating mga Pinoy ang mga "idol" natin,despite the fact na sumusunod lang tayo sa kanila,di ba?

Opinion ko lang 'to....creativity,originality,at innovation  kasi ang ilan sa mga criteria pinagbasehan ko.
Pero MADAMI talagang magagaling sa atin,
Isa na dito si DOMINIC BAUTISTA. Ka-isa isang Pinoy drummer na nagpatindig ng balahibo ko!  

[drummer_boy17]

Yes!!.. malulupit na ang mag Pinoy drummers ngayon.. lagi na silang updated sa mga new developments sa world of drumming..

[toybitz]

the common notion is whatever the foreign acts can do, the Pinoy can also do.

i strongly believe this.  we all have the same number of bones and muscles.  size doesn't matter.

but, talo tayo sa....CREATIVITY.

when the amazing Mike Alba opened for Manu Katche's Zildjian clinic at Shangrila...he was wowed by Mike's skill but he wanted to hear something original.  Something that was Pinoy.

so, the next clinic came with Senor Jun Regalado opening for JR Robinson and his piece was accompanied by kulintangs set on top of his cymbals.  and song was composed of the melody from Sitsiritsit, alibang bang...wow, dun tumayo ang balahibo ko.

isa pang advantage ng foreigners, mas maganda ang malaki ang opportunity na makabuhay ng pamilya ang pagiging musikero kompared sa Pinas.  Kaya meron silang mga malalaking school ng ang courses ay drumming, guitars, etc..

dito, magiisip ka ng ilang beses ipagpalit ang pageensayo ng 8 oras araw araw sa college educ.

[toybitz]

mapalad na yun mga nagmainstream ang band, or hot session ka.  kun may pamilya ka, mapapakain mo sila ng 3-5 meals sa isang araw.

pero karamihan sa kanila, nagiinvest pa din sa ibang bagay or, may day job.

[drummer_boy17]

Mga Magaling pero kulang sa Practice

[pinoymusika]

Yes!!.. malulupit na ang mag Pinoy drummers ngayon.. lagi na silang updated sa mga new developments sa world of drumming..

Kulang lang sa gear

[vhinming]

Nice Thread!

ako for me ilalaban ko sa international drummers possibly si master jack!  

[Gep]

Ito pa rin ang pambato ko:

Iilan lang ang nakakagawa ng mga ginagawa niya e.

[pedaldeaf3]

Clueless ako sa comparison...
Pero I know (for me ah...)
Na may mga noypi na world class drummers...
4 factors lang hanap ko sa world class drummer eh...
Creativity (Dito mo makikita yung skills)
Flexibility (Range and limit ng capability sa drums)
Passion (Influence and purpose for drumming)
Character (If in siya for the drumming or for the money  )

[yoeyoe16]

para sakin ung pede ding ipang-laban sa ibang bansa si robert dela cruz 

[~Polyamorous~]

I'm not very good in comparing especially when it comes to music.
Pero maraming magagaling na Pinoy drummer sina Michael Alba, Mar Dizon, Jun Regalado, Niņo Regalado, Benjie Mendez, Vice Mercado and many more to mention. Para sa akin patas lang ang laban between local drummers at foreign drummers.

[hen8]

for me foreign po, pero marami ding magagaling na drummer na pinoy, matindi yung drummer ng giniling festival.

[drummerspoundharder]

para sa akin hindi naman kasi "what's your nationality?" or "where do you live?" ang question to know whether a musican's good or not. kaya you cant really compare local and foreign drummers in general. naming a local and  foreign drummer to compare would be most appropriate.i think.just my two cents.

[jimy james]

I saw Mar Dizon played @  Wyngard Tracey's "Farewell party"  last Thursday night...
w/ Ehlmir Saison on keys, Kelly Badon on gtrs & Joey Benin ( ex side A ) on bass.
they played Jaco Pastorius' "chicken feet" & Spain by Chick Corea... HANEP parin !!!

for me, Ram ( that's what we call him sa UP Abelardo hall, more than two decades back  ) is still one of the country's finest. kaya nyan sumabay kay Dave Weckl...   

[questionaire]

ask ko lang..... sa tingin niyo ba may mga local drummers tayo na pwede natin ipagmalaki sa foreign countries at i-compare kina dave weckl? steve godd? dennis chambers? mike portnoy? v. donati? etc.

in short meron bang magaling dito na mas magaling sakanila??

Meron dito sa pinas na magagaling, ewan ko lang dun sa mas magaling sa kanila (Weckl, Colaiuta, Gadd, etc...) mahirap din kase e judge yung kayang gawin nung mga drummer na kinocompare naten kase usually they vary in styles. Like some drummers, they could play serious jazz but couldn't play metal or vice versa, and drummers that could play almost anything like Niel Peart, and also drummers that play their "own style" with exceptional technique like Thomas Pridgen, I've heard him play jazz for Christian Scott and that jazz was way to different from the jazz that I was expecting, that was just mind blowing check out the track "suicide" by Christian Scott if you haven't. Since mentioned na sila Sir. Benjie, Abla, atbp. add ko dito yung mga former classmates ko sa conservatory sila Chuck Menor chaka si Jron Refulgente.

Eto yung isang drum solo ni Chuck Menor

Eto yung kay Jron Refulgente, luma na to freshman days pa.

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Medyo skeptic ako dito kc yung Music mismo na tinutugtog nating mga Pinoy eh pulos foreign influence.
Siguro kung may mag iinovate na artist at i-incorporate nya yung mga indegenous percussion instruments ng Pinas sa setup ng kit nya,Pwede mangyari 'to.
It's quite ironical naman kasi kung madaig nating mga Pinoy ang mga "idol" natin,despite the fact na sumusunod lang tayo sa kanila,di ba?

Opinion ko lang 'to....creativity,originality,at innovation  kasi ang ilan sa mga criteria pinagbasehan ko.
Pero MADAMI talagang magagaling sa atin,
Isa na dito si DOMINIC BAUTISTA. Ka-isa isang Pinoy drummer na nagpatindig ng balahibo ko!  

Thanks for sharing the name Dominic Bautista, ang lupet. Lately ko lang na view.
Just to add something up, parang nakuha na ata ni Benny Greb lahat ng creativity sa mundo hahaha.
Para saken I can't be a judge so I don't have a fixed criteria but I still do have a sense of aesthetics, "Taste and style" lang talaga saken, and everything just differs to someone else' opinion. Like I would prefer a simple house groove than a Gavin Harrison polyrhythmic pattern, with all due respect.