Author Topic: zildjian pitch black & paiste alpha black? any good? (Read 8797 times)

Pearlboy · « **on:** February 28, 2009, 10:19:55 PM »

im planning to spend a portion of my savings this summer to buy a new set of cymbals... so money is no prob... dilema is, which set to buy.

zildjian K series = good sound... looks great for the first few months... until
shiny finish tarnishes... after that mukha nang cheap, (would
still sound good though). pero wala na ung pogi points...

Zildjian/paiste black edition = doesn't sound as good, but might look cool to
babes (big deal ofcourse)... they don't tarnish...
im not sure if the paint chips off after a
while though...

help me decide guys,
(pitch black + girls + zero maintenance) or (K series + good sound + no chicks)

big dilema noh? im actually leaning towards the pitch black after considering the very very low maintenace needed... the sound isn't that bad, really, ung ride nga ang ganda ng tunog... and the price... kayang kaya ng credit card... hehe.

alam ko naman na ang better choice ay K series... tinatamad lang talaga ako magspray ng cymbal cleaner everytime at magsuot ng cotton gloves pag hahawakan ko cymbals, to prevent tarnishing... hassle maging vain pare.

rexdrummer · « **Reply #1 on:** February 28, 2009, 11:24:38 PM »

He he he hassle nga maging vain na drummer. Kung hindi prob ang funds go for the best sound bro. Sigurado ako hahabulin ka pa din ng mga chicks kahit hindi shinny cymbals mo.

Anyway still your choice. Post ka pics sa new gears oras na nabili mo na cymbals mo. cheers.

plep · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2009, 11:29:12 PM »

1- sound before looks, 10 times out of 10.

2- walang paki ang mga babae kung ano itsura ng cymbals mo. at kung meron mang ganung babae, ang lungkot naman ng buhay niya.

3- pitch black sucks horse balls. and anything with a slipknot logo isn't far behind.*

4- zildjian's paint chips off. paiste's (which isn't really paint) doesn't.

* - apologies to the JJ snare loyalists. the snare's okay, but the fact that it has the logo sucks.

CDodrummer · « **Reply #3 on:** March 01, 2009, 12:23:56 AM »

get a paiste 2002, alpha or sig. They're so shiny you can see your reflection, they're explosive with shimmering decay and pretty low maintenance. here's a pic of my paiste crash when it was 8months old and have never been cleaned before. Imo 10/10 sound, durability and looks

shotsofredmist · « **Reply #4 on:** March 01, 2009, 06:51:53 AM »

wag ka bumili ng zildjian pitch black. tunog lata lalo na yung china nila parang zbt lang

) pang music video lang ang zildjian pitch black

)

bumili ka nlng ng mga a custom or z custom or k custom or mga 2002 series ng paiste or alpha rakrakan.

Pearlboy · « **Reply #5 on:** March 01, 2009, 08:58:17 AM »

nice... so paiste = fantastic sound + babes + no maintenance... d2 na ko!

shotsofredmist · « **Reply #6 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:15:19 AM »

Quote from: Pearlboy on March 01, 2009, 08:58:17 AM

nice... so paiste = fantastic sound + babes + no maintenance... d2 na ko!

sa paiste naman tunog alpha un pero i think better thank pitch black kc tunog lata at mahal ang pitch black DITO sa aten. weird no? shempre. killer tax ang pinas eh. hahahaha

mag wuhan 9000 ka nalang kulay pink. hahaha yun pang babes talagap ang chicks! ok joke lang. hehehe

plep · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:30:51 AM »

Quote from: shotsofredmist on March 01, 2009, 09:15:19 AM

tunog lata at mahal ang pitch black DITO sa aten. weird no? shempre. killer tax ang pinas eh. hahahaha

actually mahal talaga ang Pitch Black kahit abroad. feeling kasi ng Zildjian eh makakabenta sila ng cymbal na ZHT alloy + ZBT hammering + black coating para sa presyo na mas mahal sa ZHT *kahit strictly inferior ito* dahil lang "cool" ang itsura nito. nung nirelease nila ang PB at nalaman ko ang presyo, nawalan ako ng respeto sa Zildjian. ngayon na diniscontinue na nila [buti naman], medyo bumalik ng onti yung respeto ko.

Quote from: Pearlboy on March 01, 2009, 08:58:17 AM

nice... so paiste = fantastic sound + babes + no maintenance... d2 na ko!

at least hindi Pitch Black. but still.

note on Paiste: after a while, they do get dirty. and once they do, they're nastier than Sabians/Zildjians. I should know, I have a 10 year old Alpha China that's been filthy for 9 of those years, and it just gets worse. so hindi sila exactly "no maintenance". lalo na yung may colorsound coating... kailangan mo pa rin punas-punasan.

smutdrummer · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:35:41 AM »

Good Drumming = Good Chicks
Bad Gear with Good Drumming = Good Chicks pa din
Good Gear with Bad Chops = Your Gay hehehe

but yeah id go with the all Ks kung hindi problema ang pera, its more worthit than cheapass looking black cymbals (sorry pitch black looks and sounds cheap hehehe)

nikogulo · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2009, 12:35:39 PM »

go for other stuff...id say A customs or Avedis..punasan mo lang once in awhile, kahit di mo na ispray.

kung kukunin mo ang Pitch Black, kunin mo yung hats at ang crash/ride niyan. ok pa tunog.

BUT if i were you, check out the cymbals in the classifieds ng drums...for sure you will get a better deal than buying brand new Pitch Black or the Paiste black cymbals....

yun lang

NIko

mambo · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2009, 06:51:04 PM »

seryoso ba to babae ang habol mo?haha

kung display ang gusto mo, pitch black ka

kung quality, sa K's ka na

besides ikaw naman ang papanoorin, hindi yung gears mo eh.

"use your ears and not your eyes"

marko21 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2009, 07:03:01 PM »

Kung chicks lang naman ang habol, eh bat di lang babae yung gastusan

Anyway, di ko rin trip yung pitch black, ang cheap tingnan eh

IncX · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2009, 09:57:40 PM »

last time i checked girls ddnt know anything about cymbals.

girls never liked me even if i posted all my hi-end gear... i had more luck brnging them to dinner dates in a car *lol*

i know you were just kidding with your post...

K series all the way ... those pitch black things dont compare to them.

or better yet... get those B8 pros, and use the extra money to bring girls to expensive dinner dates. its hard to mess that one up *lol*

deej · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2009, 11:49:57 PM »

go with the K's bro, smartest way to go if you say that money isn't a problem...

or go with the A customs or Avedis...madaming pagpipilian....

and before buying, test every cymbal out kung yun yung prefered mong sound...malay mo iba iba palang brands,series etc ang hinahanap mong combintaion...

And in my opinion drums and chicks don't mix...all for the love for drums and music pare...

Gep · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:28:38 AM »

Kung babae lang habol mo, bumili ka ng copy ng dalawang libro ni Neil Strauss: The Game at saka Rules of the Game. P500 lang each pero lifetime investment na yun!

Besides, you should play for the music, not for the girls.
Girls are just part of the perks.

treb 821 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:26:56 PM »

Quote from: Gep on March 02, 2009, 10:28:38 AM

Kung babae lang habol mo, bumili ka ng copy ng dalawang libro ni Neil Strauss: The Game at saka Rules of the Game. P500 lang each pero lifetime investment na yun!

Besides, you should play for the music, not for the girls.
Girls are just part of the perks.

+1

Pearlboy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:38:22 PM »

joke lang ung sa mga girls brads! hehe. dami girls dito... kung wala kayo babes bibigyan ko pa kayo! wag lang kayo magcomplain kung pangit hehe!

my real issue is the cymbal cleaning.. hassle! gusto ko kasi palagi maganda drums ko...

intake · « **Reply #17 on:** March 02, 2009, 01:50:08 PM »

Quote from: Pearlboy on March 02, 2009, 01:38:22 PM

joke lang ung sa mga girls brads! hehe. dami girls dito... kung wala kayo babes bibigyan ko pa kayo! wag lang kayo magcomplain kung pangit hehe!

my real issue is the cymbal cleaning.. hassle! gusto ko kasi palagi maganda drums ko...

kailangan mo lang naman gawin sa bagong cymbaks eh pupunasan mo lang paminsan minsan eh

patulong ka kay yaya kung pwede

deej · « **Reply #18 on:** March 02, 2009, 10:39:26 PM »

bro, lahat nang bagay dumudumi at one point...kelangan talaga mag spend time to clean and love them... kasama yan sa pagiging drummer, yung maglinis at magmaintain nang drums, cymbals and hardware... kung gusto mo makintab at malinis parati cymbals at drums mo, kelangan mo talaga mahalin, alagaan at linisin...ang drummer naman hindi lang uupo yan sa drumset at papalo, ang drummer inaalagan at inaaruga din yung mga gamit nya...

metalmuhlisha · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2009, 12:46:28 AM »

Quote from: deej on March 02, 2009, 10:39:26 PM

bro, lahat nang bagay dumudumi at one point...kelangan talaga mag spend time to clean and love them... kasama yan sa pagiging drummer, yung maglinis at magmaintain nang drums, cymbals and hardware... kung gusto mo makintab at malinis parati cymbals at drums mo, kelangan mo talaga mahalin, alagaan at linisin...ang drummer naman hindi lang uupo yan sa drumset at papalo, ang drummer inaalagan at inaaruga din yung mga gamit nya...

inspiring. madalas ko punasan yung drums ko pasti hardware pero kahit kelan di ko naisipang punasan cymbals ko kasi tamad ako at feel ko mas maganda kung madumi.

might as well start now. ano ba ang pinaka-ok na cymbal cleaner?

plep · « **Reply #20 on:** March 03, 2009, 01:39:20 PM »

cymbals are meant to be dirty!

Bj Penn · « **Reply #21 on:** March 03, 2009, 02:37:23 PM »

Quote from: Gep on March 02, 2009, 10:28:38 AM

Kung babae lang habol mo, bumili ka ng copy ng dalawang libro ni Neil Strauss: The Game at saka Rules of the Game. P500 lang each pero lifetime investment na yun!

Besides, you should play for the music, not for the girls.
Girls are just part of the perks.

I strongly agree on this brother Gep! I can't believe that there are people who play music to impress women. oh well....

metalmuhlisha · « **Reply #22 on:** March 03, 2009, 06:08:03 PM »

Quote from: plep on March 03, 2009, 01:39:20 PM

cymbals are meant to be dirty!

OT: sheeet, statements like these keep on reversing my ever-changing viewpoints. ngayon ayoko na ulit maglinis ng cymbals. hay.

andreiandrei · « **Reply #23 on:** March 03, 2009, 08:25:23 PM »

Quote from: metalmuhlisha on March 03, 2009, 06:08:03 PM

OT: sheeet, statements like these keep on reversing my ever-changing viewpoints. ngayon ayoko na ulit maglinis ng cymbals. hay.

tama tama.. hahaha.. ako nga dinudumihan ko pa lalo.. hahaha.. ayoko ng malinis.. gaganda pa kasi yung sound niya.. ewan ko.. ndi ko lang din talaga gusto yung malilinis. hahaha. lol.

plep · « **Reply #24 on:** March 03, 2009, 08:25:49 PM »

1- cymbals look more, um, distinguished when dirty.

2- cymbals sound better dirty.

3- patina smells better than cymbal cleaner.

4- (most important of all) believing that cymbals are meant to be dirty justifies one's laziness to clean cymbals.

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Author Topic: zildjian pitch black & paiste alpha black? any good? (Read 8797 times)