Home Recording (Bedroom Players)

[sonicassault]

hello po mga sir.. Magandang araw po sa inyo.. Gusto ko lang po sana itanong, ano po ang mas ok, Laptop or Desktop for music recording.. Kasi medyo nahahatin ang aking isip, kung magbubuo ba ako ng desktop or hahanap ng good laptop for recording.. Thank you po ^_^

either is fine basta full-fledged yung processor (hindi ARM or Celeron or Atom) at sapat yung RAM (ok na 2GB). ang tanging sasagot ng tanong mo ay kung gusto mo ba maging mobile yung recording gear mo. 

[KennyKen]

hello po mga sir.. Magandang araw po sa inyo.. Gusto ko lang po sana itanong, ano po ang mas ok, Laptop or Desktop for music recording.. Kasi medyo nahahatin ang aking isip, kung magbubuo ba ako ng desktop or hahanap ng good laptop for recording.. Thank you po ^_^

DESKTOP PO, reasons

1. It can dissipate heat way more efficiently pag ''under LOAD'' ang CPU  kumpara sa Laptop
2. Mas mura ang RAM sa Desktop, Ideally you need at least 8GB para sa smooth operation ng DAW (although 4GB would seem to suffice)
3. A Desktop has more computing muscle compared to Laptops kasi may thermal restrictions and Laptop, sa Desktop wala
4. PRICE.  Mas mura ang Desktop, pero in the long run if those electricity bill would add up, medyo may kamahalan din, so I would suggest you get a CPU with a 45 Watt TDP like the Intel Pentium G or i3
     or maganda rin yung mga AMD Kaveri Quad Core na may 65 Watt TDP, hindi na kelangan ang graphics card kasi andun na lahat

[sonicassault]

DESKTOP PO, reasons

1. It can dissipate heat way more efficiently pag ''under LOAD'' ang CPU  kumpara sa Laptop
2. Mas mura ang RAM sa Desktop, Ideally you need at least 8GB para sa smooth operation ng DAW (although 4GB would seem to suffice)
3. A Desktop has more computing muscle compared to Laptops kasi may thermal restrictions and Laptop, sa Desktop wala
4. PRICE.  Mas mura ang Desktop, pero in the long run if those electricity bill would add up, medyo may kamahalan din, so I would suggest you get a CPU with a 45 Watt TDP like the Intel Pentium G or i3
     or maganda rin yung mga AMD Kaveri Quad Core na may 65 Watt TDP, hindi na kelangan ang graphics card kasi andun na lahat

kung desktop route ang kukunin mo, bumili ka na lang ng second hand na Mac mini, powerful enough, at di ka na mahahasel sa ASIO at audio drivers. when it comes to basic audio, ang laking ginhawa ng Mac.

[chiqgarcia]

I just discovered a cool software program called PLURALEYES (Standalone or a plugin for Premiere Pro and final cut pro)
Para sa autosync sa DSLR/video cam/cellphone   at  DAW audio ...very easy to use 

Gawd dang, ngayon ko lang nalaman ito    it literally cut my work into half hahaha    noon nagpapakahirap akong i-align ang proper syncing ng video at audio meron pa lang program na ganito  LOL

so parang software version siya nito?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapperboard

i guess pluraleyes would be a godsend for most people.

[KennyKen]

so parang software version siya nito?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clapperboard

i guess pluraleyes would be a godsend for most people.

YES. PRECISELY

Instant clapperboard. No more wave form aligning and all those hassles 

The program is pretty spot on, kahit mahina yung audio pick up ng cam mo

[chiqgarcia]

@kennyken

salamat bro, matagal na akong hindi updated sa computer hardware/technology. tatandaan ko nick mo pag may PC-related questions ako.

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share ko lang... i'm a 'ghetto' closet producer (hobby lang)... and by 'ghetto' i mean my PC hardware is always below 'minimum system requirements'. but that is usually solved by using an audio interface. i bet that most people cannot appreciate how an audio interface takes the load off the cpu (if you have a nice pc, you won't feel it).

naka-chika-chika ko yung isang co-contestant sa isang songwriting contest, nagulat siya nung sinabi kong yung pc na ginamit ko sa pag-produce ng demo ay desktop na single core 1.8 ghz with 512 mb ram. he owns a motif rack and other cool stuff... so tumaas talaga mga kilay niya sa gulat.

na-try ko na rin mag-produce using an asus eee-pc netbook (single core, celeron 900 mhz, 512 mb ram, no hard disk). pinaka-challenging na ginawa ko dito ay backing track ng theatrical version ng 'let it go' by idina menzel (shut up, i can probably outshred you --- oops sorry, defense mechanism, hahaha). i had to 'freeze' (cubase speak) a lot of tracks to get this done, otherwise puro dropouts/glitches ang maririnig (or cubase just refuses to play). while i'm not too worried about track count, i have to be very stingy with the number of fx plugins i use.

now this may prove promising for those of you who own half decent computers (or worse)... i can use said netbook for playing live synth and vocals! BUT, i have to use an audio interface. di talaga pwede pag walang audio interface. yamaha xg softsynth has the lowest cpu hit (so okay siya sa akin). tapos, while i'm playing piano, i also sing (when im alone lang)... plugins i use for vocals: gcomp2 (gate, compressor, limiter), kerovee (sintunado kase ako at para feeling t-pain ako), and classic reverb (kjaerhus audio). yep, my lowly netbook can do it real-time with somewhat acceptable latency. i just have to choose the plugins i use (older plugins tend to be less cpu hungry).

for those about to buy a computer, download these:
http://www.hwinfo.com/
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

[sonicassault]

@kennyken

salamat bro, matagal na akong hindi updated sa computer hardware/technology. tatandaan ko nick mo pag may PC-related questions ako.

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share ko lang... i'm a 'ghetto' closet producer (hobby lang)... and by 'ghetto' i mean my PC hardware is always below 'minimum system requirements'. but that is usually solved by using an audio interface. i bet that most people cannot appreciate how an audio interface takes the load off the cpu (if you have a nice pc, you won't feel it).

naka-chika-chika ko yung isang co-contestant sa isang songwriting contest, nagulat siya nung sinabi kong yung pc na ginamit ko sa pag-produce ng demo ay desktop na single core 1.8 ghz with 512 mb ram. he owns a motif rack and other cool stuff... so tumaas talaga mga kilay niya sa gulat.

na-try ko na rin mag-produce using an asus eee-pc netbook (single core, celeron 900 mhz, 512 mb ram, no hard disk). pinaka-challenging na ginawa ko dito ay backing track ng theatrical version ng 'let it go' by idina menzel (shut up, i can probably outshred you --- oops sorry, defense mechanism, hahaha). i had to 'freeze' (cubase speak) a lot of tracks to get this done, otherwise puro dropouts/glitches ang maririnig (or cubase just refuses to play). while i'm not too worried about track count, i have to be very stingy with the number of fx plugins i use.

now this may prove promising for those of you who own half decent computers (or worse)... i can use said netbook for playing live synth and vocals! BUT, i have to use an audio interface. di talaga pwede pag walang audio interface. yamaha xg softsynth has the lowest cpu hit (so okay siya sa akin). tapos, while i'm playing piano, i also sing (when im alone lang)... plugins i use for vocals: gcomp2 (gate, compressor, limiter), kerovee (sintunado kase ako at para feeling t-pain ako), and classic reverb (kjaerhus audio). yep, my lowly netbook can do it real-time with somewhat acceptable latency. i just have to choose the plugins i use (older plugins tend to be less cpu hungry).

for those about to buy a computer, download these:
http://www.hwinfo.com/
http://www.thesycon.de/deu/latency_check.shtml

nasa tamang pili ng plugins, daw, at tamang pagpatay ng tracks at plugins lang ang solusyon sa "budget" recording  nakapagmix na ako sa office computer na ang free disk space sa OS drive ay 200MB lang 

[chiqgarcia]

nasa tamang pili ng plugins, daw, at tamang pagpatay ng tracks at plugins lang ang solusyon sa "budget" recording  nakapagmix na ako sa office computer na ang free disk space sa OS drive ay 200MB lang 

medyo split ako kung alin ang mas worse, nagmi-mix sa office o nakiki-torrent sa office... gawain kase ng kuya ko yun. hahaha!

eto pa mas malala... nakagawa ako ng 'album' sa Pentium I (after the 486 processor) using impulse tracker and cool edit. ay shet obvious tuloy ang edad... lol.

[sonicassault]

medyo split ako kung alin ang mas worse, nagmi-mix sa office o nakiki-torrent sa office... gawain kase ng kuya ko yun. hahaha!

eto pa mas malala... nakagawa ako ng 'album' sa Pentium I (after the 486 processor) using impulse tracker and cool edit. ay shet obvious tuloy ang edad... lol.

blocked ang torrent dito! 

ginoogle ko yung imulse tracker... whoaaaaahhhh 

[chiqgarcia]

blocked ang torrent dito! 

ginoogle ko yung imulse tracker... whoaaaaahhhh 

ummm...errr... prior to that dumaan din ako sa scream tracker. hindi uso ang multilayer velocities sa trackers, so panay single shot drum samples lang. may cakewalk na nung time na yun pero limited ka sa sounds ng sound module mo which i didnt have (pre-VST technology).

this was at a time na uso pa ang BBS sa pilipinas (bulletin board system) so you can download nude erika eleniak pics using your 14.4k baud rate modem. major LOL!

[sonicassault]

ummm...errr... prior to that dumaan din ako sa scream tracker. hindi uso ang multilayer velocities sa trackers, so panay single shot drum samples lang. may cakewalk na nung time na yun pero limited ka sa sounds ng sound module mo which i didnt have (pre-VST technology).

this was at a time na uso pa ang BBS sa pilipinas (bulletin board system) so you can download nude erika eleniak pics using your 14.4k baud rate modem. major LOL!

alam ko pa yung BBS pero sino yang erika eleniak na yan di ko na po ata kilala yan  at ang inabutan ko na modem 28k na pero ang nasa bahay noon 56k na 

ang first experience ko sa pagproduce/record ang gamit ko pa HammerHead Rhythm Station tapos Audacity, walang VST puro stock effects lang, wala rin audio interface at cheap na magnetic pickup lang sa acoustic guitar I got to churn out a Sandwich cover though!

[chiqgarcia]

@sonic

kasama ni knight rider sa baywatch. 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

first experience sa recording was with NERO Music Editor, tapos MAGIX MUSIC EDITOR. hahaha year 2000 ata yun hahaha ang MP3 Encoding limited to 6 saves lang hahaha

[Boxedking]

Ako naman Cakewalk 9 na, CDR King desktop mic, at line-in adaptor. Zoom 3030 at strat copy na pinipilit patunuging pangmetal. Ang drums ay galing sa Guitar Pro 4. Sagwa eh! Haha!

[sonicassault]

ipost na angmga first demos!! 

[chiqgarcia]

hammerhead, na-try ko rin yan, lol.

may music editor ang nero? hahaha!

first demo? hirap hanapin kase hindi ko tinatapos yung mga inuumpisahan ko dati eh... alala ko meron akong spiderwebs (no doubt)... chaka nakatago na mga yun somewhere sa mga 3.5" floppy disks ko... LOL

[hevymet]

Hi friends! Ngayon lng ulet naka dalaw sa thread. Just finished tracking for my band's first EP...ill be mixing in a couple of days, so yeah ill be needing your critique and help during the process.

[Boxedking]

Hi friends! Ngayon lng ulet naka dalaw sa thread. Just finished tracking for my band's first EP...ill be mixing in a couple of days, so yeah ill be needing your critique and help during the process.

Bring it on! Masaya yun ganyan. I just wish I'm as eloquent as the others here.

[hevymet]

And regarding sa topic about Laptop or Desktop...whatever that is, maganda yung Mac/Macbook Pro...just found out about this feature sa Mac that ables you to use multiple audio interfaces at the same time. Aggregate Device yung tawag...you can look it up. Because of that i am switching systems to Mac.

[hevymet]

Bring it on! Masaya yun ganyan. I just wish I'm as eloquent as the others here.

Its nice to see that this thread is growing...maganda din kse yung collaborative thinking, mas marami natututunan!

[Boxedking]

Its nice to see that this thread is growing...maganda din kse yung collaborative thinking, mas marami natututunan!

That and our difference in preference.

[sonicassault]

That and our difference in preference.

difference in preference always throws in better ideas to the table!  (just imagine how many metal albums would sound much better if other producers had a hand at them  )

[hevymet]

Mga bossing! Heres a new recording...not from my band though. Wala lang magawa kagabi. What do you think po? https://soundcloud.com/death-becomes-me/along-with-tyrants

[jake z]

And regarding sa topic about Laptop or Desktop...whatever that is, maganda yung Mac/Macbook Pro...just found out about this feature sa Mac that ables you to use multiple audio interfaces at the same time. Aggregate Device yung tawag...you can look it up. Because of that i am switching systems to Mac.

Planning to get a mac because of this too.
Meron sa sulit nsa 25k. Then use saffire 2i2/for monitoring
And the line6 pod for guitars.

[sonicassault]

And regarding sa topic about Laptop or Desktop...whatever that is, maganda yung Mac/Macbook Pro...just found out about this feature sa Mac that ables you to use multiple audio interfaces at the same time. Aggregate Device yung tawag...you can look it up. Because of that i am switching systems to Mac.

I haven't actually tried this feature yet, but don't bet your dollar on it if you haven't tried it yet. There may be issues in word clock (especially kung walang word clock ports yung interface) and latency, especially when using different interfaces.