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« on: October 18, 2006, 01:54:06 AM »
san po b gumagawa ng hndi gumaganang xlr cables? sa audiophile b pwede magpagawa? den labor n lng bayaran, or bili ng mga connectors dun tapos ipagawa n rin sa kanila
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2006, 11:09:14 AM »
:)sorry na-double post

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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2006, 11:09:20 AM »
di ko sure sa audiophile.
pero share ko lang experience ko.
bumili ako ng swan cables sa deeco.
dun na rin ako bumili ng xlr connectors m and f.
tapos dun ko pinagawa sa lyn-ann electronics sa malapit sa gateway mall sa cubao.
bali from aurora blvd. turn right sa mercury drug then turn right agad. nandun yung lyn-ann sa hilera ng mga stores doon.
ok yung gawa nila. tahimik and maayos naman.
i just can't remember right now kung magkano per cable and sisinglin nila.

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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2006, 11:48:38 AM »
Audio studio sa megamall ako bumili ng cable and xlr connector recently lng, sila na nagkabit free of charge

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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2006, 06:19:11 PM »
ok mga sir, subukan ko ung mga suggestions nyo. sir smarty mga magkano kaya magagastos ko? cguro mga 25 feet n cable
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2006, 04:36:26 AM »
5th Ave. Store

sa Cyberzone ng SM North to


di ko lang sure magkano pagawa.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2006, 08:21:41 AM »
Quote from: smarty
Audio studio sa megamall ako bumili ng cable and xlr connector recently lng, sila na nagkabit free of charge


saan ba ito banda smarty?
ayos ha free magpagawa.
please advise sa location sa loob ng mall kasi di ako masyado nagagaawi sa medamall.
thanks alot smarty... :D

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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2006, 12:02:44 PM »
Audio Studio
SM Megamall Bldg. B Level 5
Tel: (632) 6347324
Fax: (632) 6320590 audio studio

Actually mic cable un pinagawa ko, nobelle cable (65/m), tapos 160 and 140 each ung neutrik connector.

bosings, guitar o mic cable ba pagawa nyo?

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Re: xlr cables...CAUTION!!!
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2006, 01:19:37 AM »
  Mga kapatiran na gustong makatipid (okey yan) sa paggawa ng XLR (balanced) terminated cable for your equipment and loudspeakers-- beware on proper PIN CONFIGURATION! Or else, you may already have this PHASE SHIFT for your loudspeakers and reverse ABSOLUTE POLARITY for your equipment set-up.
    What exactly is a balanced line, and how is it different from a standard RCA cable (unbalanced line) and jack?
    In an unbalanced line, the audio signal appears across the center pin of the RCA jack and the shield, or ground wire. Some unbalanced interconnects have two signal conductors and a shield, with the shield not used as a signal conductor. If this unbalanced interconnect happens to be close to  fluctuating magnetic field- an AC power cord, for example- the magnetic field will induce a noise signal in the interconnect which is heard as hum and noise reproduced through the system's loudspeakers.
     In a professional application, this hum, buzz and noise is unacceptable, leading to the development of an interconnection method that is immune to noise interference: the balanced line. A balanced line has three conductors: two carrying signals, and one ground. The two signals in a balanced line are identical, but 180 degrees out of phase with each other. When the signal in one of the conductors is peak positive, the signal in other conductors is at peak negative. The third conductor is signal ground. Some balanced interconnects use three conductors plus a shield.
     Equipment (e.g. power amplifiers)  having balanced input/output connection has this DIFFERENTIAL AMPLIFIER circuit internally. When the two identical but opposite polarity signals carried on the balanced line are input to differential amplifier, noise picked up by the interconnect is rejected. Here's why: a differential amplifier amplifies only the DIFFERENCE between the two signals. If noise is introduced into the line, the noise will be common to both conductors and the differential amplifier will reject the noise. This phenomenon of rejecting noise signals common to both conductors in a balanced line is called COMMON-MODE REJECTION.
     Note that a balanced line won't make a noisy signal clean; it just prevents additional noise from being introduced in the interconnect. If the noise is common to both halves of the balanced line, common-mode rejection will eliminate the noise.
     And now, the caution section; in balanced line terminated with XLR connectors, pin 1 is always signal ground. There is however, no convention for which of the two signal conductors carries the non-inverted signal and which carries the inverted signal. The non-inverted conductor is often called the "HOT" conductor. With the inverted conductor designated "COLD". Having decades of no clear standard, it was later adopted by the industry of having pin 2 carry the non-inverted (" hot") signal, pin 3 the inverted ("cold") signal.
   How the balanced line is wired (pin 2 or pin 3 "hot") can determine if your system is inverting or non-inverting of absolute polarity. When DIY'ng your balanced cable from RAON, 5th Avenue, Audio Studio-Megamall, Lyn-Ann Electronics, even if its free connection,  for your processors, preamps, power amplifiers or loudspeakers-- you should know if your equipment's XLR jacks are wired the same-- either pin 2 or pin 3 "hot"-- as the existing equipments or loudspeakers. The freak interconnect may wind up in another system or application where you don't want the polarity switched and worst, expect phase reversal for your loudspeakers.



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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2006, 02:12:39 AM »
Just an FYI: Audio Studio = Audiophile.  :)  I have all my cables made by Audiophile!  :)  I used to always get Klotz cables.. but Audiophile ran out, and hasn't had any new stock!!! :(
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Re: xlr cables
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 07:58:42 AM »
tAMA SI Direk.. In my case, ako mismo nag-aassemble ng Cables na gamit ko.. eto ang pin configuration:

1 - ground
2 - (+) positive (hot side)
3 - (-) negative (cold side)

ang mga gamit ko:

Neutrek connectors
Canare Cables


Sa experience ko, kahit anong torture test ang gawin sa cable, reliable pa din.. Yun nga lang quite expensive pero sulit.

BTW, may training kasi ako sa Precision Soldering before ako mag-ECE

In-apply ko din yun sa pag-repair and pag-revise ng guitars..

Hope this helps..
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