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Offline yahoo!

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« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2011, 08:11:34 PM »
Ang tanong sa mga modders natin dito, kung ang Ultimate Drive clone ng OCD at sa konting palit lang ng resistors magiging Alpha Drive ang sound niya, pwede bang maging switcheable between "OCD-mode" at "Alpha Drive-mode" yung Ultimate Drive?
yes. that is not possible. basta kasya yun switch at hindi babangga sa board niya.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2011, 08:43:59 PM by yahoo! »

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« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2011, 08:42:04 PM »
Thanks for confirming that. :-)

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« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2011, 09:00:43 PM »
do you have the joyo pedal? i can mod your pedal for free. but for you only. gusto ko lang matest.  :-D

ayos kukuha ako sir hehe, tapos diretso na agad sayo hehe. :D

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« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2011, 09:06:18 PM »
try watching yung demo vid nyan sa youtube. i think watched the ones from cranbournemusic (tama ba?).. ewan ko kung ako lang, pero parang hindi ako nagandahan sa tunog niya. parang malayo sa crunhbox.. but still,  the best would be to try the pedal personally.

 :-)

The right amount of drive is there, may mali lang sa tapering ng mga potentiometers ng Joyo kaya makikita mo sa mod resistors ang nilagay sa pots. Tapos may isang capacitor na binago C9 daw pero parang C7 yung napalitan, for sure sa tone ang pagbabago ng capacitor.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #79 on: June 29, 2011, 07:33:33 AM »
lolz nag-eenjoy ako sa pagbabasa ng mga forum posts regading sa issue na 'to! :D

more Joyo/freekish blues ultimate/alpha drive thingie here:

http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13383

http://forum.musikding.de/vb/showthread.php?t=30248 <-- gamit na lang kayo ng Google translate

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?p=10851829
eto hindi ma-view directly.
pero type nyo sa google "10851829 site:www.thegearpage.net" then click nyo yung "Cached" para mabasa n'yo :)

baka makahanap tayo ng iba pang modification hints just around the corner :)


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« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2011, 08:49:33 AM »
Yan nga yung malabo dun sa sagot ni Ken ng Freekish Blues. SAbi niya 3 years ago nagpa-mass produce sila sa isang overseas company nung design nila na circuit taz they found out na binebenta yung design nila. Ang malabo dun bakit kung alam niya na ninakawan siya ng design ng isang company hindi  man lang niya dinemanda o inaanounce so forums na ninakaw yung design niya within those years. Kung totoo man yun, bakit inspite of everything, ginamit pa rin niya yung board ng nagnakaw sa kanya.

[/b]May ibang Alpha Drive units kasi din hindi masyadong binura yung J. Wong na nakaprint dun s circuit board at siyempre yung iba tinanggal yung goop na pangit din ang pagkakaapply so nabuking na cheap parts lang ang nasa loob. Bale ang nangyayari lang bumibili lang sila ng Joyo taz palit lang ng 4(?) resistors, repaint tapos icclaim nila na "designed, engineered at handcrafted in a basement."[/b] Chinese sweatshop basement pala. lol..Ang henyong idea dun eh nilagyan pa nila ng 4 weeks waiting time para mukha talagang boutique.

Ang tanong sa mga modders natin dito, kung ang Ultimate Drive clone ng OCD at sa konting palit lang ng resistors magiging Alpha Drive ang sound niya, pwede bang maging switcheable between "OCD-mode" at "Alpha Drive-mode" yung Ultimate Drive?

My thoughts exactly, kung nag outsource nga talaga sila para gawin ang board nila, wala na sanang mga goop yung nasa alpha drive, malinis dapat. Meron kasing magbubukas at magbubukas ng pedal na yan no matter what, and it is somehow stupid not to see that coming :lol:
Just wont burn...

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« Reply #81 on: June 29, 2011, 09:07:33 AM »
It should be close to an OCD, not the Crunchbox.  :-)

onga sir.

tinutukoy ko yung pedal na nandun sa ad/link na binigay ni sir mikki_blinkme, which is the Crunch Distortion from Joyo.  :-D

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« Reply #82 on: June 29, 2011, 09:47:11 AM »
Interesting. Why is that so? Lower quality parts? Mass produced - low overhead?

yep. the UD being mass produced will beat any boutique version nyan kahit DIY pa. etching and populating a board alone takes several hours na. napakaliit na difference sa cost naman kung imomod pa yan. i mean, it's already an OCD copy. kataasan yung low-pass filtering lang nabago with AD dun sa capacitor change nila, and yung sweep ng pots because of the bridge resistors. idk, i am personally not a fan of the OCD but more of the voodoo labs OD. kung imomod yung UD, tingin ko mas maganda kung yung mismong pots na lang ang papalitan with the "correct" values. still, i think it's impractical already to mod this thing kung yun lang naman ang babaguhin. idk. simply because as a builder i usually prefer to play with a pedal's strengths rather than focus on its weaknesses, hangga't maari.

wag kayo maya pa magkandarapa tayo sa freakish joyo pedals pag namod ng malupet. "the right mod formula".  :evil:

ugh. sana nga tol may "right mod formula", instead na "hype job mod formula" na prevalent already. and hope credit goes where credit is due :-)

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with this issue at hand, i hope the readers somehow get to understand the hows and whys of circuit manipulation and FAIR USE. consumers NEED to be INFORMED.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2011, 10:00:23 AM by Musikerochan »

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« Reply #83 on: June 29, 2011, 10:18:26 AM »
^^^ idol!  :lol: pero nosebleed ako sa mga engineering terms nyo.  :lol:

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« Reply #84 on: June 29, 2011, 10:30:52 AM »
^lol, hindi ako engineer by any stretch of the imagination :lol: these things i learned by reading lang.

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« Reply #85 on: June 29, 2011, 10:42:11 AM »
^^^ sana ganyan din ako.  :-D wala akong tyaga nosebleed talaga.  :-D goodluck sa mga mods sir at sa mga sirs dito. sana may bumili mura lang naman e. baka panggigilan natin yang joyo.  :-D

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« Reply #86 on: June 29, 2011, 12:40:59 PM »
onga sir.

tinutukoy ko yung pedal na nandun sa ad/link na binigay ni sir mikki_blinkme, which is the Crunch Distortion from Joyo.  :-D

Apologies. My bad. Akala ko you were referring to the Ultimate Overdrive. :lol:

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« Reply #87 on: June 29, 2011, 01:19:28 PM »
Apologies. My bad. Akala ko you were referring to the Ultimate Overdrive. :lol:

no prob sir.  :-D

BTT: anyone who bought the Ultimate Drive already?! sana meron demo ng before and after the mods.   :mrgreen:

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« Reply #88 on: June 29, 2011, 03:44:03 PM »
guys may nahanap ako, pero you guys translate na lang from German to English:

http://forum.musikding.de/vb/showpost.php?p=312085&postcount=23

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Hi,

so, hab mir das Ding ma angeguckt.
Im Prinzip ein OCD, irgendwie ein Versionsmischmasch, siehe Schaltung



Das Ding klingt gut, es gibt nur 2 SMD Widerstände und zwar den vorwiderstand der LED und einen Widerstand auf der Schalterplatine um den Effekteingang im Bypass niederohmig auf Masse zu legen.
Sprich, die Dinger sind Latte und können ohne Problem auch ersetzt werden.

Die sonstigen Komponenten scheinen mir absolut iO.
Spannungsfestigkeit ist bei den Cs satt gegeben, 24V kann man locker machen. Schalter und Potis sind auf den ersten Blick auch ordentlich und kein Billigst-Kram.

Einzig die Diode vor dem einen 2N7000 kann ich nicht identifizieren.
Hat ein großes Glasgehäuse und erinnert entfernt an ein Glimmlämpchen, siehe Foto:





EDIT: more info sa discussion dito:
http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13383

EDIT ULIT: eto pa. lolz
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/stomp-box/278906-freekish-blues-alpha-drive-gut-shots.html
« Last Edit: June 29, 2011, 04:07:48 PM by xelalien »

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« Reply #89 on: June 29, 2011, 04:15:19 PM »
guys may nahanap ako, pero you guys translate na lang from German to English:

http://forum.musikding.de/vb/showpost.php?p=312085&postcount=23

EDIT: more info sa discussion dito:
http://www.freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13383

EDIT ULIT: eto pa. lolz
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/stomp-box/278906-freekish-blues-alpha-drive-gut-shots.html

so, hab mir das Ding ma angeguckt.
Im Prinzip ein OCD, irgendwie ein Versionsmischmasch, siehe Schaltung


So, sabi ko sa yo Ding na anglagkit.
Isipin mo pinilit na OCD, pero yung version nito mas malupit sa botik!
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #90 on: June 29, 2011, 04:29:36 PM »
"so, hab mir das Ding ma angeguckt.
Im Prinzip ein OCD, irgendwie ein Versionsmischmasch, siehe Schaltung"

so I've looked at the thing ma.
In principle, one OCD, sort of a hodge-podge version, see circuit



"Das Ding klingt gut, es gibt nur 2 SMD Widerstände und zwar den vorwiderstand der LED und einen Widerstand auf der Schalterplatine um den Effekteingang im Bypass niederohmig auf Masse zu legen.
Sprich, die Dinger sind Latte und können ohne Problem auch ersetzt werden."

This thing sounds good, there are only two SMD resistors and the resistor while the LED and a resistor to the switch board at the entrance effect in the low-pass to put on mass.
Say, those things are pale and can be replaced without problem.


"Die sonstigen Komponenten scheinen mir absolut iO.
Spannungsfestigkeit ist bei den Cs satt gegeben, 24V kann man locker machen. Schalter und Potis sind auf den ersten Blick auch ordentlich und kein Billigst-Kram."

The other components seem to me absolutely OK.
Dielectric strength is given by the Cs tired of 24V can make you loose. Switches and potentiometers are also neat at first glance and no cheap stuff.


"Einzig die Diode vor dem einen 2N7000 kann ich nicht identifizieren.
Hat ein großes Glasgehäuse und erinnert entfernt an ein Glimmlämpchen, siehe Foto:"

Only the front of the diode is a 2N7000 I can not identify.
Has a large glass case and vaguely reminiscent of one Glimmlämpchen, see photo:



 :mrgreen:



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« Reply #91 on: June 29, 2011, 06:36:26 PM »
may nabasa rin ako, ipa-parallel daw yung resistors sa mga pots... turned out to be na papalitan lang daw yung pots ng ibang ohm value (emphasis mine):

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310K in parallel with DRIVE, 1K5 in parallel with TONE, 470K in parallel with VOL. Change output cap to 100n. Swap the LP/HP resistors, the 22K is always in the circuit.

Or, just replace the capacitor, ignore the parallel resistors and swap the pots instead:

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You can replace the pots with the following:

drive - 250K log

level - 250K log

tone - 1K log

nahanap ko lang kaka-basa lang dito sa thread hehe:
http://freestompboxes.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=11263&start=2640

:)

EDIT: tsktsk kawawa yung ibang mga nakabili nung pedal, di sila pinayagan ng full refund  :|
« Last Edit: June 29, 2011, 06:48:12 PM by xelalien »

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« Reply #92 on: June 29, 2011, 06:50:29 PM »
Short cut na lang yung pag hinang ng resistors. Mas matrabaho kasi kung papalitan niya ng pots.
I have stated that there are more bad sounding suhrs then there are good ones.

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« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2011, 12:42:42 AM »
hindi na nakaprivate yun alpha drive demo ni Burgerman666



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« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2011, 08:58:17 AM »
AKO IM ISUNG JOYO PEDALS!!! bukod sa mura eh napakanda talaga ng tunog!!! 2 ULTIMATE DRIVE ko, isang brand new... anyone want to buy it? :evil:
1,9k ang price nito s LAZER hehehe... 1,5k ko n lng benta ung isa kong U.DRIVE brand new... so panu?! unahan na sa text hehe 09165928489

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« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2011, 11:16:43 AM »
oh, spam. that's good :roll:

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« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2011, 11:35:38 AM »
lazermusic staff member here order sana ako..

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« Reply #97 on: July 01, 2011, 06:19:24 PM »
any update how to mod joyo ud..

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« Reply #98 on: July 01, 2011, 10:29:47 PM »
AKO IM ISUNG JOYO PEDALS!!! bukod sa mura eh napakanda talaga ng tunog!!! 2 ULTIMATE DRIVE ko, isang brand new... anyone want to buy it? :evil:
1,9k ang price nito s LAZER hehehe... 1,5k ko n lng benta ung isa kong U.DRIVE brand new... so panu?! unahan na sa text hehe 09165928489

lawl

bawal itetch. :-D

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« Reply #99 on: July 04, 2011, 02:45:58 PM »
anong parts palitan at bridge sa pots...