zbt VS paiste pst 3

[barneykols]

mga sir, naghahanap po kasi drummer namin ng ride cymbals. budget niya eh hanggang 4k lang. ano po ba mas maganda? zbt or yung paiste pst3?

comments and advices would be very much appreciated. thanks in advance! 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

hello bro

to give you an idea,

zbt is already bronze ( B8 ) while PST3 is only brass.
bronze sheet cymbals are usually better than brass cymbal in both
sound quality and durability. but since this is a ride, a brass ride can also sound good. (ping wise, bow wise) but in my opinion go for the bronze ZBT. not only does it sound good, but it has a higher resale value than brass cymbals.   that's all bro hope I helped

[plep]

magipon pa siya ng onti, tas bili siya sa classifieds dito ng magandang ride. may mga avedis na 5-6k lang ang benta e.

[thegreatone]

to answer your question on which is better, zbt is better than pst3 IMO. (zbt vs. pst5 is a different story though...)

but i agree with plep. ipon na lang ng konti, may mabibili ka ng cast na zildjian (or paiste, pero bihira) sa classifieds.    however, if you can't stretch budget of 4k, i suggest that you look at other options like a stagg (wait for an 2nd hand SH ride, cast na yun), B8 or even an edge ride. they all sound better than zbt and pst3. opinion ko lang po. 

[plep]

eto, subukan ko irank ang mga budget to mid level cymbals:

1. sablay talaga
 - Lazer / Fernando / Pearl / at kung ano pang mga stock na brands

2. branded nga, sablay naman
 - Planet Z, Scimitar, Solar, PST-3, HCS

3. todo overrated
 - ZXT Titanium, Pitch Black

4. pwede na
- B8, ZBT, ZXT, MCS

5. uy okay 'to ah!
- B8 Pro, XS20, ZHT, Edge, PST-5

6. pro quality, budget price
- SH, APX, Alpha, Classics

[paeng16]

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@ Plep
PATOK YAN BRO!!! NADALI MO! hehehe.. 

+1 ako sa post mo men..

[barneykols]

hello bro

to give you an idea,

zbt is already bronze ( B8 ) while PST3 is only brass.
bronze sheet cymbals are usually better than brass cymbal in both
sound quality and durability. but since this is a ride, a brass ride can also sound good. (ping wise, bow wise) but in my opinion go for the bronze ZBT. not only does it sound good, but it has a higher resale value than brass cymbals.   that's all bro hope I helped

thanks bro. laking tulong ng advice mo. you surely gave us enlightenment regarding the matter.

[barneykols]

magipon pa siya ng onti, tas bili siya sa classifieds dito ng magandang ride. may mga avedis na 5-6k lang ang benta e.

hehe sige bro, sabihin ko sa kanya. thanks man.

[barneykols]

to answer your question on which is better, zbt is better than pst3 IMO. (zbt vs. pst5 is a different story though...)

but i agree with plep. ipon na lang ng konti, may mabibili ka ng cast na zildjian (or paiste, pero bihira) sa classifieds.    however, if you can't stretch budget of 4k, i suggest that you look at other options like a stagg (wait for an 2nd hand SH ride, cast na yun), B8 or even an edge ride. they all sound better than zbt and pst3. opinion ko lang po. 

ah ganon ba. thanks bro. pero question lang, hindi ba delikado bumili ng 2nd hand? kasi 'di ba, pwede magkaroon ng cracks sa loob yun? kahit na sabihin na walang cracks sa labas. thanks in advance

[barneykols]

eto, subukan ko irank ang mga budget to mid level cymbals:

1. sablay talaga
 - Lazer / Fernando / Pearl / at kung ano pang mga stock na brands

2. branded nga, sablay naman
 - Planet Z, Scimitar, Solar, PST-3, HCS

3. todo overrated
 - ZXT Titanium, Pitch Black

4. pwede na
- B8, ZBT, ZXT, MCS

5. uy okay 'to ah!
- B8 Pro, XS20, ZHT, Edge, PST-5

6. pro quality, budget price
- SH, APX, Alpha, Classics

wow! panalo to bro! maraming salamat! 

akala ko okay yung ZHT Titanium. may nag-aalok kasi sakin eh.

[sjon014]

ZXT Titanium kamo? Hahah. I've tried the ride (nothing special), the crash (lacks cutting power) and the splash (HEAVEN!) from that lineup. Obviously, only the 10" Flash Splash piqued my interest.

As for plep's list, agree ako except for two models:

Ang Scimitar, "pwede na" dapat. Hindi sya totally olats! Pre-cursor model 'to ng ZBT's decades ago, which means it's sheet bronze. I own Sci hats and a ride. They do better than any current-model ZBT's today!

As for the cast bronze XS20, pro-qual budget price dapat HAHAH. I LOVE my 18" XS20 crash. I prefer it over the APX which for me, is loud and cutting kaso kulang sa "tone". And they certainly do better than Sabian's B8 Pros, and Zildj's ZHT's and Edges.

[9_spiral]

ZXT Titanium kamo? Hahah. I've tried the ride (nothing special), the crash (lacks cutting power) and the splash (HEAVEN!) from that lineup. Obviously, only the 10" Flash Splash piqued my interest.

As for plep's list, agree ako except for two models:

Ang Scimitar, "pwede na" dapat. Hindi sya totally olats! Pre-cursor model 'to ng ZBT's decades ago, which means it's sheet bronze. I own Sci hats and a ride. They do better than any current-model ZBT's today!

As for the cast bronze XS20, pro-qual budget price dapat HAHAH. I LOVE my 18" XS20 crash. I prefer it over the APX which for me, is loud and cutting kaso kulang sa "tone". And they certainly do better than Sabian's B8 Pros, and Zildj's ZHT's and Edges.

bro musta ung tunog ng xs20 crash? loud and cutting din ba? narinig ko na nga personally ung APX, tama ka nga at kulang cya sa tone..hindi masyado musical for me...

[sjon014]

Tawag ko sa 18" Med-Thin XS20 ko - Roast Beef. WARM and MEATY. Hindi sya super bright like the B8's. It's not as cutting as, say, a Projection Crash or an AA Metal-X, pero it CAN get loud. I love the overtones din. Mas pronounced ang mids instead of harsh highs pag pinapalo. Pretty good for my ears lalo na't considering na walang hammering ang XS20 hahah.

All in all, excellent for a general-purpose crash. It blends well mapa-alternative or metal ang tugtugan. Good for aggresive time-keeping as an alternative to open hats. Kaso it won't be the pie to hit para sa points in the song that need bright and cutting (like breakdowns and such).

[triple 6]

planet z...
d naman olats as olats..
kumpleto ko naman yung set.. (crashsride,hats,ride,crash...)
depende lang naman sa tugtugan..
tska kung sadyang maarte yung gagamit..
old skool starter pack cya kya kumapara sa mga lumabas na bago mas respetado ko pa din ang planet..
tank built kaya pwedeng pang baragan tska pang practice n production use.


 

[plep]

ZXT Titanium kamo? Hahah. I've tried the ride (nothing special), the crash (lacks cutting power) and the splash (HEAVEN!) from that lineup. Obviously, only the 10" Flash Splash piqued my interest.

As for plep's list, agree ako except for two models:

Ang Scimitar, "pwede na" dapat. Hindi sya totally olats! Pre-cursor model 'to ng ZBT's decades ago, which means it's sheet bronze. I own Sci hats and a ride. They do better than any current-model ZBT's today!

As for the cast bronze XS20, pro-qual budget price dapat HAHAH. I LOVE my 18" XS20 crash. I prefer it over the APX which for me, is loud and cutting kaso kulang sa "tone". And they certainly do better than Sabian's B8 Pros, and Zildj's ZHT's and Edges.

actually yung xs20 di ko rin sigurado kung tama pagkalagay e. BAKA dun siya sa pro quality, kaso lahat ng nasubukan kong xs20 eh medyo kulang sa akin e. mas gusto ko SH talaga... kaso preference lang yun.

ang scimitar, sorry kaso sablay talaga e. haha

[thegreatone]

ah ganon ba. thanks bro. pero question lang, hindi ba delikado bumili ng 2nd hand? kasi 'di ba, pwede magkaroon ng cracks sa loob yun? kahit na sabihin na walang cracks sa labas. thanks in advance

ok lang bumili ng 2nd hand bro, basta kailangan mo lang i-check ng mabuti yung item. dapat tignan mo yung edges and hole, minsan kasi merong crack na sobrang liit, hindi na sya halata. ok din if you could test the item para marinig mo kung swak ang tunog for your ears.

[thegreatone]

As for the cast bronze XS20, pro-qual budget price dapat HAHAH. I LOVE my 18" XS20 crash. I prefer it over the APX which for me, is loud and cutting kaso kulang sa "tone". And they certainly do better than Sabian's B8 Pros, and Zildj's ZHT's and Edges.

i kinda agree with sjon with this one... i think xs20 should be under the "pro quality, budget price" category. i also have an xs20 18" medium thin crash. very nice tone - not too bright, sakto lang. very versatile. could fit into any set-up and genre. 

[barneykols]

ok lang bumili ng 2nd hand bro, basta kailangan mo lang i-check ng mabuti yung item. dapat tignan mo yung edges and hole, minsan kasi merong crack na sobrang liit, hindi na sya halata. ok din if you could test the item para marinig mo kung swak ang tunog for your ears.

ah okay. thanks sir. kasi di ba gumagapang yung cracks na yan kahit maliit lang?

regarding the crash sir, ride raw po talaga hanap niya e. thanks for the offer though.

[kimpoy19]

eto, subukan ko irank ang mga budget to mid level cymbals:

1. sablay talaga
 - Lazer / Fernando / Pearl / at kung ano pang mga stock na brands

2. branded nga, sablay naman
 - Planet Z, Scimitar, Solar, PST-3, HCS

3. todo overrated
 - ZXT Titanium, Pitch Black

4. pwede na
- B8, ZBT, ZXT, MCS

5. uy okay 'to ah!
- B8 Pro, XS20, ZHT, Edge, PST-5

6. pro quality, budget price
- SH, APX, Alpha, Classics

awtz, scimitar ako. haha. Tinamaan ako.

Agree ako sa sinabi niya,
try mo muna maghanap sa mga adds, maraming nagbebenta ng mga mas mura pa. Or high class pero in Low price.

At depende rin sa cymbal-set mo yun. May tono rin kasi yang mga cymbals diba. At kung anong tutugtog ang tinutugtog niya. 

[andreiandrei]

eto, subukan ko irank ang mga budget to mid level cymbals:

1. sablay talaga
 - Lazer / Fernando / Pearl / at kung ano pang mga stock na brands

2. branded nga, sablay naman
 - Planet Z, Scimitar, Solar, PST-3, HCS

3. todo overrated
 - ZXT Titanium, Pitch Black

4. pwede na
- B8, ZBT, ZXT, MCS

5. uy okay 'to ah!
- B8 Pro, XS20, ZHT, Edge, PST-5

6. pro quality, budget price
- SH, APX, Alpha, Classics

ahaha! ayus to ah! tama! and pst3 is brass lang kasi. compared sa zbt's na b8 nga katulad ng namention ni sir ralph. kaso, dami na nagsasabi na pangit na ang zbt's ngayon kesa dati. well, personal preference naman. you'll just have to play it with your kit tlaga para malaman mo. iba kasi kahit mapalo mo sa music store, either malapit o malayo. haha.

[andreiandrei]

awtz, scimitar ako. haha. Tinamaan ako.

Agree ako sa sinabi niya,
try mo muna maghanap sa mga adds, maraming nagbebenta ng mga mas mura pa. Or high class pero in Low price.

At depende rin sa cymbal-set mo yun. May tono rin kasi yang mga cymbals diba. At kung anong tutugtog ang tinutugtog niya. 

ahaha. edge ako. kahit papano pasok sa "medyo ok na" group ni sir plep. haha. pero gusto ko bilihin yung scimitar bronze set sa classified. nyahaha. or kung mgkaron siguro ng cash, meinl mb8 rock set para malupit! hehe. meinl all the way!

[mr. trigger]

just go for ZBT period.