Re: Analog 101

[gjuanengo]

Its the decimator bro.

Im planning on getting one on my next trip to australia. but at 229au$ its quite a piece of damage.

Its probably the best gate there is. Haha.

[anoemous]

wow, this is a very informative article, i learned a lot about these analogs (though digital kasi ginagamit ko ngayon, ala pang budget eh  ). but i have some question regarding on how to use these pedals. kasi im wondering kung pano sa actual performance mo and you will use a lot of effects on a particular song, pano yung transition sa pag apak dun sa pedal? for example, naka phaser ka muna, then kelangan mo mag distortion, pano yun, mag ooverlap ba yung tunog nung distortion sa phaser pag inapakan mo na yun, or magmimix yung tunog nila? so kelangan ba muna na i off ko yung phaser bago ko apakan yung distortion para di sha mag mix?   kasi nasanay ako sa digital and hindi ko pa mashado natatry gumamit ng multi effects.  thanx!

sir kasama sa practice kung pano mo magagawa na parang alang lapses sa sound mo kung gaano mo kasmooth na pag palit palit ang on and off pedals to get ur sound. honestly it took me a few weeks bago ako nasanay.. ehhehhe
i have totally no regrets on my move from digital multi effects to analogs heheeh analogs just sound way better!!!!!!

I'd call it high-gain tap dancing. Hahaha. It is still quite hard, I usually use breaks or some passages to mix the effects then make the switch.

wow, so kelangan pala ng practice para mabilis ang transition! grabe so it would be harder if you are into mixing a lot of effects, whew! but "high-gain top dancing" i think is a part of the thrill while playing..haha!

[gjuanengo]

Hahaha, yuppers! I keep my board to 7 pedals. Im replacing the chorus, phase and adding another dirt pedal in a few months.

Now, that would add to my topic.

ANALOGS NEVER STAY CONSTANT. hahaha, its like a developing city, the dev't never stops!

[psychic_sushi]

wow, this is a very informative article, i learned a lot about these analogs (though digital kasi ginagamit ko ngayon, ala pang budget eh  ). but i have some question regarding on how to use these pedals. kasi im wondering kung pano sa actual performance mo and you will use a lot of effects on a particular song, pano yung transition sa pag apak dun sa pedal? for example, naka phaser ka muna, then kelangan mo mag distortion, pano yun, mag ooverlap ba yung tunog nung distortion sa phaser pag inapakan mo na yun, or magmimix yung tunog nila? so kelangan ba muna na i off ko yung phaser bago ko apakan yung distortion para di sha mag mix?   kasi nasanay ako sa digital and hindi ko pa mashado natatry gumamit ng multi effects.  thanx!

this would depend on what compliments the tune you are playing. the most effective way is to tap on your pedals with the rhythm of the music. that way, you'll be hitting them at exact points of time.

if you desire an overlapping transition, that's ok too, IF that is the efect you're after. thinking about it, it may sound alittle messing if not done with conviction.

I'd say, disengage the modulation effect before activating the dirt box (beam me up, scotty!) such as the phaser question, tap it off muna so that  there's no bleed over.

[anoemous]

Hahaha, yuppers! I keep my board to 7 pedals. Im replacing the chorus, phase and adding another dirt pedal in a few months.

Now, that would add to my topic.

ANALOGS NEVER STAY CONSTANT. hahaha, its like a developing city, the dev't never stops!

nice ANALOGy sir!! haha!
btw sir can you post a diagram on how you construct and arrange those pedals? and yung sa distribution na rin ng power supply   it would be helpful to us newbies in analog like me  

[gjuanengo]

Hahaha. Okay, For now check out my post on the third to the last page on the pedalboard layout thread (third or second? im not too sure) for the current routing.

Im still working overtime on the photoshop layouts

[plugzzzz]

Its the decimator bro.

Im planning on getting one on my next trip to australia. but at 229au$ its quite a piece of damage.

Its probably the best gate there is. Haha.

decimator ba bro hehehe basta yun balak kodin kumuha kaso im trying to recover pa sa delay pedal na binayaran ko

[gjuanengo]

Hahah, saan ka kukuha bro?

(By the way, topic watchers, if your going to fill in the gaps on your board, get this gate)

[plugzzzz]

sa ebay lang bro lam mo naman walang makukuhanan d2 limited lang mga stuff dito basta bago matapos ang taon meron nako nun.. nasa last sya ng wishlist ng pedals na gusto ko anyways eto yung pag kasunod sinod

1. hughes and kettner replex(digital) <<----kakabayad ko lang
2. emma rf-1
3. small clone chorus
4. mxr phaser EHV
5. ISP decimator

[gjuanengo]

H&K nakanaman!

Hahaha. Pero namamahalan ako dun sa Decimator, the MXR smart Gate is just as good rin.

It depends on the price. hahaha.

EVH Phase 90? not my type, but im waiting for an ebay-ed MXR script phase

[turiguiliano]

sa ebay lang bro lam mo naman walang makukuhanan d2 limited lang mga stuff dito basta bago matapos ang taon meron nako nun.. nasa last sya ng wishlist ng pedals na gusto ko anyways eto yung pag kasunod sinod

1. hughes and kettner replex(digital) <<----kakabayad ko lang
2. emma rf-1
3. small clone chorus
4. mxr phaser EHV
5. ISP decimator

MATINDI NA ITO!

[gjuanengo]

I'll second that! GAS KING: Modulation Category. HAHAHAHA

[xelalien]

tindi ng GAS ni ser istep a!
pa-try naman minsan ng mga pedals mu!

analogs... one word: EXCITING!

[plugzzzz]

sa ebay lang bro lam mo naman walang makukuhanan d2 limited lang mga stuff dito basta bago matapos ang taon meron nako nun.. nasa last sya ng wishlist ng pedals na gusto ko anyways eto yung pag kasunod sinod

1. hughes and kettner replex(digital) <<----kakabayad ko lang
2. emma rf-1
3. small clone chorus
4. mxr phaser EHV
5. ISP decimator

MATINDI NA ITO!

welll yung virus nag start sanyong dalawa ni leech yan ang hirap eh nakakahawa kau hahaha syet i need a doctor

[Poundcake]

sa ebay lang bro lam mo naman walang makukuhanan d2 limited lang mga stuff dito basta bago matapos ang taon meron nako nun.. nasa last sya ng wishlist ng pedals na gusto ko anyways eto yung pag kasunod sinod

1. hughes and kettner replex(digital) <<----kakabayad ko lang
2. emma rf-1
3. small clone chorus
4. mxr phaser EHV
5. ISP decimator

MATINDI NA ITO!

welll yung virus nag start sanyong dalawa ni leech yan ang hirap eh nakakahawa kau hahaha syet i need a doctor

haha! bahala kayo, basta i'm done with my major pedal GAScapades.. masakit sa bulsa but it's been a fun two years buying and selling 60+ pedals in the process of tone education. as the reigning GAS god, i rescind my pedal GAS powers to.... plugzzz!!!! nyahahaha!

you'll get your sound after much experimentation but yeah, our preferences will continually evolve. but what i've learned is that until you find your ideal tone (yung babalik-balikan mo lagi), GAS will just make you buy more and more pedals.

the EVH Phase 90 is a badass phaser. sulit sya and the "Script" mode sounds at least 90-93% close to the real script logo Phase 90. i use both the EVH Phase 90 and my M-117 Flanger often in my EVH-setup board. ok rin yung Toadworks Phantasm Phaser.

as for drive pedal GAS, there's only one solution for it: buy a great-sounding tube amp but for gigging musicians without amp transportation, it's a different story. good tube amps are hard to come by at local bars so it's better to have our own dirt stompboxes.

[plugzzzz]

sa ebay lang bro lam mo naman walang makukuhanan d2 limited lang mga stuff dito basta bago matapos ang taon meron nako nun.. nasa last sya ng wishlist ng pedals na gusto ko anyways eto yung pag kasunod sinod

1. hughes and kettner replex(digital) <<----kakabayad ko lang
2. emma rf-1
3. small clone chorus
4. mxr phaser EHV
5. ISP decimator

MATINDI NA ITO!

welll yung virus nag start sanyong dalawa ni leech yan ang hirap eh nakakahawa kau hahaha syet i need a doctor

haha! bahala kayo, basta i'm done with my major pedal GAScapades.. masakit sa bulsa but it's been a fun two years buying and selling 60+ pedals in the process of tone education. as the reigning GAS god, i rescind my pedal GAS powers to.... plugzzz!!!! nyahahaha!

you'll get your sound after much experimentation but yeah, our preferences will continually evolve. but what i've learned is that until you find your ideal tone (yung babalik-balikan mo lagi), GAS will just make you buy more and more pedals.

the EVH Phase 90 is a badass phaser. sulit sya and the "Script" mode sounds at least 90-93% close to the real script logo Phase 90. i use both the EVH Phase 90 and my M-117 Flanger often in my EVH-setup board. ok rin yung Toadworks Phantasm Phaser.

as for drive pedal GAS, there's only one solution for it: buy a great-sounding tube amp but for gigging musicians without amp transportation, it's a different story. good tube amps are hard to come by at local bars so it's better to have our own dirt stompboxes.

patay tayo jan pinasa na yung Pedal GAS power hey sir poundcake im not worthy si TURI and Leech padin mas nababagay ang powers nyo would take me years an years bago ko marating ang inabot nyo ahihihihi calling master turi pinapamana ni sir poundcake ang trono nya kunin mo nah bilis 

[ubersam]

has anyone here tried ISP deciminator???...

Decimator, yes, I have one. I used it with my Triaxis to minimize the noise. Best noise solution I have ever used.

[gjuanengo]

@ubersam, the decimator really lives up to its name?

Hmm, since were in the topic of analog setups, maybe we should have a list of recommended pedals here?

I'll start:
(Mainstream)
Compressor: MXR Super Comp - Insanely transparent compressor, relatively easy to come by, very low noise floor and great dynamics.

Wah (Tweakable): Dunlop 535q - Nothing can really match the power of a tweakable, fasel-loaded wah. Great sweep and deep vocal like wah.

Wah (Fixed): Dunlop Wylde Wah - VERY Deep vocal wah quality, perfect for rock/metal wah-meisters. Some may find the range too low.

Dirt: Carl Martin Crush Zone - Amazingly versatile pedal, great voicing. Lacks eq, but the tone control is tailored extremely well.

EQ: MXR Ten Band EQ - Transparent and Very Quiet. 10 bands of tone shaping is rivaled only by higher end EQ units.

Phase: MXR Phase 90 - A classic, very vintage-correct phaser with great voicing. Plus, with one knob, set-up is easy.

Chorus: Electro Harmonix Small Clone - Very Lush vintage chorus, simple controls with a very deep and warm chorus.

Delay: Carl Martin Red Repeat - VERY warm delay, almost sounds like an echo, the delay times are pretty short 400ms max, but is a great delay nonetheless.

Gate: MXR Smart Gate (I would put the decimator, but its too hard to find) - Second to the Decimator, this gate allows great signal integrity whilst keeping noise levels to nearly zero.

[gjuanengo]

Follow Up

(Boutique/Semi-Boutique)

Compressor - Robert Keeley Compressor; probably the best compressor I have ever laid my ears on. Great dynamics and extremely transparent, reacts to picking style almost instantaneously.

Wah - Fulltone Cylde; Amzing voicing, and great sweep. Pedal action is smooth and consistent throught the entire range of the pedal.

Dirt - MI Audio Tube Zone; AMAZING! Great gain control, good for both low and high gain sounds. The character control allows for an amazing variety of gain voicings from loose bluesy tone to a tight ultra high-gain sound.

Gate - ISP Decimator; The noise gate. Period.

Chorus - Fulltone Choralflange; Very warm and lush chorus, when cranked, it goes past leslie sounds and goes all the way to a decent flange.

Delay - Fulltone Tube Tape Echo; It has a real tape, what else can you ask for when it comes to an authentic tape echo/delay?

How I got these? Whenever I leave the country for trips, I make it a point to try out new pedals at the nearest music store. (And I always end up buying something, grr)

[i_banez]

suggest po kayo ng aus na effects... im browsing boss, visual sound and electro harmonix... as for the sound, wala pa naman akong specific genre... i like songs from gnr to saosin, etc... naghahanap po ako ng magandang effects eh... specifically distortion, overdrive...

[Al_Librero]

MI Audio Crunch Box
Boss OD-3
VisualSound Jekyll &  Hyde
Vox Cooltron Bulldog
Rocktron Rampage

[gjuanengo]

Check out my analog 101 thread a few threads down.

[Shekoski]

MI Audio Crunch Box
Boss OD-3
VisualSound Jekyll &  Hyde
Vox Cooltron Bulldog
Rocktron Rampage

+1

[dubista]

BASIC ayos ng efx, but u can experiment.

[dubista]

go for the j&h or if u want versatility tlga, go for the digitech df7.