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Offline nickson

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #600 on: November 10, 2014, 05:36:53 PM »
Mga sir, noob question po.

Anong tube amp combo ang marerecommend nyo? Budget is 40K or lower.
I want an amp with a very good clean sound. Thanks in advance.

Used Fender Blues Deluxe. Once in a while merong nagpo-pop up sa ads.

Classic 30 cleans sound good.. Not sure about reliability issues, I read somewhere they tend to heat up more than the usual tube amps. (??)
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #601 on: November 10, 2014, 06:23:29 PM »
Classic 30 cleans sound good.. Not sure about reliability issues, I read somewhere they tend to heat up more than the usual tube amps. (??)

No objection sa clean ng Fender amps, I love my Deluxe Reverb Reissue.

I still own a Classic 30 which I bought back in 2005. Good price for the money. Back then it was only Php 25k brand new sa Audiophile. Main gig amp ko yun nung may banda pa ako, ngayon nagagamit ko nalang siya pag nagbabakasyon ako sa Pinas (once a year). Tatlong beses palang ako nagpalit ng tubes, no biasing required dahil auto bias yung classic 30, basta matched quad yung tubes.

About the heating issues, lahat naman ng tube amps umiinit. Mas obvious lang yung sa classic 30 kasi grill lang ang protection para hindi aksidenteng mahawakan yung nagbabagang tubes. :D Reliability wise, the controls are starting to crackle due to lack of use.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #602 on: November 10, 2014, 07:09:17 PM »
If Tube Cleans I'd go with Fender. nothing beats a Fender on Cleans

If you really don't really need tube breakup. Roland Jazz Chorus goes for around 40k. Solid State but sounds great and reliable.

Hetfield uses them and has been recorded with many times.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #603 on: November 10, 2014, 08:03:34 PM »
i think reliability issues had more to do with the small fenders that were made in mexico than the classic 30. classic 30 is...well...a classic. many swear by them.

i think many had problems with the Pro Jr, and far far less problems with the Blues Deluxe.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #604 on: November 10, 2014, 11:44:36 PM »
mas madali mag maintain at magrepair ng tube amps IMO. hindi tulad ng solid state na mas maraming components. usually caps, transformer at fuse ang madalas masunog sa tube amp at kelangan lang palitan. ingat lang sa charged capacitors baka makuryente :D
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #605 on: November 11, 2014, 07:41:15 AM »
Mga sir, noob question po.

Anong tube amp combo ang marerecommend nyo? Budget is 40K or lower.
I want an amp with a very good clean sound. Thanks in advance.

Goldea which is distributed by Guitar Pusher is reasonably good at low prices. Upgrade mo nlng yung capacitors.

However, if you are obsessed with branded ones then Fenders are good for you. Get the Fender Blues Jr as they are designed with ULTRA-LINEAR, very good cleans really.

In terms of reliability, well anything could fail these days on Mid-priced and below amps :P
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #606 on: November 11, 2014, 08:31:34 AM »
If Tube Cleans I'd go with Fender. nothing beats a Fender on Cleans

If you really don't really need tube breakup. Roland Jazz Chorus goes for around 40k. Solid State but sounds great and reliable.

Hetfield uses them and has been recorded with many times.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #607 on: November 11, 2014, 11:42:57 AM »
Thank you for your inputs. This will surely help me in choosing the right tube amp for me.
Actually, mga next year pa naman ako kuha ng tube amp (GAS Planning for 2015  :-D).
I just want to do lots of research before spending my money on amps.

Musta naman po ang Fender Amps when using guitar effects? Is it pedal friendly?
Would it also sound good if you use British Distortion type of pedals??

Thanks! :mrgreen:

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #608 on: November 12, 2014, 05:54:19 AM »
Musta naman po ang Fender Amps when using guitar effects? Is it pedal friendly?
Would it also sound good if you use British Distortion type of pedals??



a lot of pedals, specially the higher end and boutique pedals are voiced for fender amps.

yung marshall nga na bluesbjreaker ko pag nilagay sa Fender amp ko, dami naloloko na marshall siya. but my fender amp is already above average sounding on its own.

on the other hand, kaya mahal din ang boutique pedal, kasi tinetest nila sa mga mamahaling amp. doon naka voice sila.

but there are "classic" pedals that are always associated with certain amps types.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #609 on: November 12, 2014, 08:40:56 AM »
Musta naman po ang Fender Amps when using guitar effects? Is it pedal friendly?
Would it also sound good if you use British Distortion type of pedals??



a lot of pedals, specially the higher end and boutique pedals are voiced for fender amps.

yung marshall nga na bluesbjreaker ko pag nilagay sa Fender amp ko, dami naloloko na marshall siya. but my fender amp is already above average sounding on its own.

on the other hand, kaya mahal din ang boutique pedal, kasi tinetest nila sa mga mamahaling amp. doon naka voice sila.

but there are "classic" pedals that are always associated with certain amps types.


Thanks for the info bro. "Ipon Mode ON" for Fender Tube Amp.  :-D

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #610 on: August 27, 2015, 11:43:21 AM »
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #611 on: August 27, 2015, 02:16:50 PM »
up para sa mga duwag sa FB. :)
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« Reply #612 on: August 27, 2015, 02:25:19 PM »
up para sa mga duwag sa FB. :)
sayang yung thread mo. hindi ko nabasa.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #613 on: August 27, 2015, 02:29:57 PM »
well basically tumuwad si allan tongol tapos tinira sya sa wetpu. tapos ang usapan.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #614 on: August 27, 2015, 02:31:52 PM »
actually marami silang katulad mo na dingbads at nagtirahan sa wetpu. di masatisfied kaya lumipat ng ibang lugar. ayun andito na sa philmusic.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #615 on: August 27, 2015, 02:35:41 PM »
actually marami silang katulad mo na dingbads at nagtirahan sa wetpu. di masatisfied kaya lumipat ng ibang lugar. ayun andito na sa philmusic.
may homophobia ka? bad experience, perhaps.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #616 on: August 27, 2015, 02:36:54 PM »
wala naman. kaw sanay na?
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #617 on: August 27, 2015, 02:41:03 PM »
ah, good experience pala.

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #618 on: August 29, 2015, 11:53:59 PM »
best amp tingen ko is a behringer solid state amp. kasi they can sound like a plexi.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #619 on: August 30, 2015, 07:27:29 AM »
best amp tingen ko is a behringer solid state amp. kasi they can sound like a plexi.

Have you heard and experienced a real plexi?

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #620 on: August 30, 2015, 09:44:51 AM »
Have you heard and experienced a real plexi?
Bro, if you read the Trolling @ FB something somthing thread, starting around page 46, you'll get tongski's post [it's mockingly tongue in cheek].

ah. here:
...Here's the plexi tone video

http://youtu.be/_50vlQ3HtMo

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #621 on: August 30, 2015, 10:56:57 AM »
Have you heard and experienced a real plexi?

my answer is yes. because i own one.
i have not experienced a behringer though but am quite convinced that the you tube demo is quite close.
i think mateo and matt de leon (your friend) will agree with me.
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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #622 on: August 30, 2015, 11:33:00 AM »
Can you guess what type of amp?

No pedals, straight to amp.

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13197565

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Re: Do tube amps really sound better than solid state?
« Reply #623 on: August 30, 2015, 11:05:33 PM »
Can you guess what type of amp?

No pedals, straight to amp.

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13197565

Whatever amp that is, it's got a very lovely, classic-sounding compression that reminds me of vintage amps turned all the way up. I'm guessing something along Marshall designs. A low-watt plexi-style perhaps?

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« Reply #624 on: August 31, 2015, 04:00:13 PM »
Whatever amp that is, it's got a very lovely, classic-sounding compression that reminds me of vintage amps turned all the way up. I'm guessing something along Marshall designs. A low-watt plexi-style perhaps?

Thanks for listening bro
nice di ba, hindi ko na papatagalin pa, pero ito yun  :)



yung soundclips pala recorded through a tascam dr-05


si yeyeh yung gitarista gamit strat ko  :lol:
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