China Cymbal Thread

[$trayC@t]

para sigurado, dalhin mo mga cymbals mo pag bibili ka ng bagong cymbal. tugtugin mo magkasama yung mga luma mong cymbals at yung mga plano mo bilhin para marinig kung bagay sila.

 Yan ^

[Dugs3]

How about a Meinl HCS China ? Kakabili ko lang ... Any comments or reviews about it ?

Thanks !

[$trayC@t]

Kakabili ko lang ... Any comments or reviews about it ?

  Since kakabili mo lang why don't you give your comment and review instead of asking for some 

[Dugs3]

Since kakabili mo lang why don't you give your comment and review instead of asking for some  

Sarcastic tayo sir ah ? I was hoping for other HCS China users to post a comment .. First time user ako ng China and I don't have any idea at all on how to describe or distinguish its uniqeness with the other brands ...

No offense dude pero mejo off ata hirit mo ...

[$trayC@t]

Sarcastic tayo sir ah ?

 No offense dude pero mejo off ata hirit mo ...

Akala mo lang yun don't tell me basta mo na lang binili yan without even trying it out. Now in case you did not try it out by now i'm certain you already did so more or less you can say something about it.

You can't be in a forum and expect to hear only things you like to hear. Don't be an onion skin it does'nt help.

[Dugs3]

Akala mo lang yun don't tell me basta mo na lang binili yan without even trying it out. Now in case you did not try it out by now i'm certain you already did so more or less you can say something about it.

You can't be in a forum and expect to hear only things you like to hear. Don't be an onion skin it does'nt help

Syempre sinubukan ko and nagustuhan ko [and that is all I can say for now] kaya ko nga binili eh and hindi ako onion skin and this is not the only forum or site na binibisita ko so I know how it goes here ...
Dude , opinion ng ibang HCS users ang hinihintay kong sagot para if they have bad expriences and tips to maintain or whatever , at least I know what to expect and yung kasi ang theme ng thread .
Like what I've said , no idea at all on how to describe or compare the sound ... I was reviewing the previous posts and it shows how other China users compare the sound with other brands kasi they have tried it out ...

Peace and much love !

[Ralph_Petrucci]

Syempre sinubukan ko and nagustuhan ko [and that is all I can say for now] kaya ko nga binili eh and hindi ako onion skin and this is not the only forum or site na binibisita ko so I know how it goes here ...
Dude , opinion ng ibang HCS users ang hinihintay kong sagot para if they have bad expriences and tips to maintain or whatever , at least I know what to expect and yung kasi ang theme ng thread .
Like what I've said , no idea at all on how to describe or compare the sound ... I was reviewing the previous posts and it shows how other China users compare the sound with other brands kasi they have tried it out ...

Peace and much love !

HCS is The Brass series right? MCS ung Bronze?
or the other way around?

well, if its the brass,

ive used PAISTE PST3(BRASS) china sa isang studio
and what i can say,

Impressive sounding siya for a brass cymbal kasi as we all know diba, brass cannot compare to bronze in terms of sound.
ayun it was good pero andun parin ung "pang" sound na parang gongy
which i dont like sa china. i like it if it is thrashy. im using an AAX 18" chinese and this really satisfied my cravings for a china cymbal.

ikaw bro dugs, ano ang masasabi mo sa HCS? never pa ko nakarinig niyan eh

[metalmuhlisha]

@ralph
meinl hcs is an entry-level bronze cymbal line, similar to sabian b8.

EDIT: ay mali pala, upon checking, mcs is made from b8; hcs is BRASS.

[Dugs3]

Never ko pa na-try yung HCS na china sa gig or sa practice kaya I'll have to wait and see pa ... By Thursday or Friday may jam yung band ko so hopefully magamit ko na sya and makapag provide na ako ng comment about an HCS China ...

@raLpH_pEtRucCi

I'll update my post here pag nagamit ko na yung China sa practice or gig ...

[plep]

brass ang HCS.

kaso sa china naman, anything goes e. cheap chinas can sound incredibly good, and expensive ones incredibly bad (ie oriental, a custom).

halimbawa, isa pa rin sa mga pinakamalupit na china na nasubukan ko eh 20" lazer ride na na-invert yung bow. nasty piece of *ahem* yun.

[$trayC@t]

Syempre sinubukan ko and nagustuhan ko [and that is all I can say for now] kaya ko nga binili eh

Peace and much love !

It's Good that you tried it out and liked it. That's what i'm talking about there must be something you liked in it for you to make the purchase.

It's only "Too Bad" that you're asking about extra info after making the purchase instead of before making the purchase. Kasi pag nagkataon you'll be stuck with it in case it is not good enough for whatever reason.

In the end if you really like it doesnt matter what everyone else says including me.

Peace and love din sayo 

[Dugs3]

It's only "Too Bad" that you're asking about extra info after making the purchase instead of before making the purchase. Kasi pag nagkataon you'll be stuck with it in case it is not good enough for whatever reason.

I agree with you on that point, but it was given to me for a very , very , very ... as in very low price  ... Kaya kinuha ko na din kasi naisip ko na minsan lang yung mga ganung type ng offer ... 

[phfreq]

nakapost din po sa paiste cymbal thread..

paiste 2000 18" china... blue label. Based dun sa serial number, 1980's.. Bright pero hindi na masyadong bright na nakakasakit na sa tenga. Yung china sound nya eh hindi oriental. May pagka warm ng konti.

[uglyguy]

does anyone know what model yun china na parang open hi hat yun tunog .... isang beses lang ako nakagamit neto eh .. didn't got the model ... but its a 20" zildjian china ...

[makLoy]

does anyone know what model yun china na parang open hi hat yun tunog .... isang beses lang ako nakagamit neto eh .. didn't got the model ... but its a 20" zildjian china ...

sir hindi kaya zildjian k custom hybrid china yun??

try, this Link:
http://zildjian.com/EN-US/products/configurator/default.ad2

[andreiandrei]

depende sa technique mo ng pgpalo yan.. wala ka nmang mhhnap siguro na china na sobrang kapal ng bronze diba. manipis tlaga. ako oriental trash china ko. pero try ko sometime this year bmili ng 17" sabian signature carmine appice devastation china..

[kimpoy19]

2k for wuhan china 14" 100% hand made. ayos po ba yung deal na yun?
thanks, 

[sevenzero]

meron ako ZHT na 18" china, bright yung sound and longer yung decay nya, durable din kase medyo malakas ako magaccent with a china, napapagalitan nga ako ng music ministry head namin sa church kc mahilig ako magchina hehehe... i guess i just love the sound a china cymbal creates... hehe wala lang *rant XD

[mr. trigger]

sa mga long time user ng kahit anung china cymbals brand, san madalas at bakit nasisira ang china cymbals?

[mr. trigger]

any suggestion..mga dude kung panu maaalagaan ang china?

[9_spiral]

any suggestion..mga dude kung panu maaalagaan ang china?

paluin sa flange part ng china, yung part kung san naging flat na ung bow...a lot of drummers play it inverted, para nga ma-hit ung flange which creates the oriental sound of the cymbal. I-angle din ng maayos ung china, ung accessible para sa inyo paluin ung flange, then don't tighten too much ung wingnuts para hindi sakal and to avoid cracks on the keyholing. At cyempre, do not hit directly perpendicular dun sa edge. I hope this helps.

[mr. trigger]

paluin sa flange part ng china, yung part kung san naging flat na ung bow...a lot of drummers play it inverted, para nga ma-hit ung flange which creates the oriental sound of the cymbal. I-angle din ng maayos ung china, ung accessible para sa inyo paluin ung flange, then don't tighten too much ung wingnuts para hindi sakal and to avoid cracks on the keyholing. At cyempre, do not hit directly perpendicular dun sa edge. I hope this helps.

maraming salamat bro!! so sa makatuwid dapat talaga sa edge ng tenga ng china ang hit rigth?

[9_spiral]

maraming salamat bro!! so sa makatuwid dapat talaga sa edge ng tenga ng china ang hit rigth?

yup, ung umbok/tenga/bundok/flange part ng china hehe...ako kasi mas gusto ko dun paluin kasi maganda ung short sustain oriental attack...kesa pag sa edge mismo...mejo gongy/clangy na may sustain, which i don't like, and magiging prone rin sa cracks if mistakenly hit

[mr. trigger]

yup, ung umbok/tenga/bundok/flange part ng china hehe...ako kasi mas gusto ko dun paluin kasi maganda ung short sustain oriental attack...kesa pag sa edge mismo...mejo gongy/clangy na may sustain, which i don't like, and magiging prone rin sa cracks if mistakenly hit

ganun ba dude medyo naguguluhan ako ah  kasi may nakita akong china cymbals na yung flange(umbok) na sinasabi mo, dun nag crack.. kaya sa mismung edge ako nasanay pumalo. ok lang ba un?oh mali yung ginagawa ko?

[9_spiral]

ganun ba dude medyo naguguluhan ako ah  kasi may nakita akong china cymbals na yung flange(umbok) na sinasabi mo, dun nag crack.. kaya sa mismung edge ako nasanay pumalo. ok lang ba un?oh mali yung ginagawa ko?

talaga bro? sa flange nagcrack? grabe naman un. Kung gusto mo sa edge ayos lang naman yun, wag lang ung directly sa edge ung perpendicular ung stick mo dun. Like other cymbals, mortal sin talaga gawin un hehe. IMHO, mas trip ko lang talaga sa flange part dahil lumalabas ung oriental sound ng china. Consider mo na rin bro ung angle ng pagtilt mo chaka ung sa pagtighten mo ng wignuts, tatagal ung china mo (except na lang kung may factory defects). And like others say, play it gracefully with a swinging motion and avoid hammering it down. Happy drumming