Gretsch Catalina Maple Appreciation Thread

[sandythedrummer]

Hay ginawa ko tong thread na to para maraming ma encourage na bumile ng Gretsch Catalina Maple. Hehehe!!! Chaka para yung may mga questions dito masagot. okay UNA NAKO!!!


Here's mine







*I sanded the inner plies kasi mejo rough sha. Chaka nabasa ko na if the inner ply is smooth mas brighter yung sound nya.

*I change heads evry now and then. Minsan trip ko Coated minsan naman Pinstripe. Sana may Clear AMBS na dito.

*I also changed the tom mounts. Diko trip yung free sa kit. Bale Standard Gretsch tom mounts na yan kaso hindi kona sha nilalagay sa bass drum kasi sobrang bigat nya fearing bumigay yung wood ng bass drum.

*Nagpalit ren ako ng Front head. Mas maganda sha tingnan kung White yung front head.

*Onga pala okay ren yung Gibraltar Hardware packs nya kaso mejo sablay lang yung design ng Snare stand.

*Chaka pag bibile na kayo check nyo yung 16 and 14 floor toms. Napansin ko sila yung madalas ma damage sa packaging.

Note: The first pic has 16" bass drum

[marvinq]

our studio kit is also a catalina maple.

[sandythedrummer]

our studio kit is also a catalina maple.

Ganda naman ng tunog!!!! Anu heads nyan???

[marvinq]

coated ambassadors.

[Single Stroke Seven]

coated ambassadors.

How about sa resonant head? Stock lang ba? And no muffling or overtone control whatsoever?

[sandythedrummer]

coated ambassadors.

How about sa resonant head? Stock lang ba? And no muffling or overtone control whatsoever?

Yes stock lang okay na. Well sakin doesn't need muffling na.

[marvinq]

coated ambassadors.

How about sa resonant head? Stock lang ba? And no muffling or overtone control whatsoever?

the one we use at the studio only uses stock resonant heads. i still haven't fully understood how that affects the recorded sound, so we don't really bother changing it. as far as i know, the resonant head contributes more to the projection of the drum, which isn't really so relevant in a recording studio setting, unless you make heavy use of the room acoustics. in my case, i want my tracks as dry as possible, and then i put room mics.

muffling-wise, we only use duct tape, to shorten the toms a bit. well, it's not really the length of the tone that bothers me, but the sympathetic resonance. i just needed to be able to control it better. i could always add length with a little reverb. (also, you don't want your toms sounding too long when you've got a drummer like rickson -- the one in the video -- it smears all the detail in his drumming. hehe)

[FINGERZAP]

@marvinq: Diba mas makapal coated ambassadors kesa stock head dun sa resonant? So pano tuning nyo dun? Since thinner heads have higher pitch than thicker ones, is it batter-lower resonant-higher or batter=resonant pitchwise?

@Sandy: Napansin ko naka-Gibraltar Double Peds ka. Yung HiHat Stand mo, is it a Gibraltar DL-DP? Kasi kung 3-legged hihat stand, it gets in the way of the double peds. I've been wanting to buy a DL-DP. Ok ba performance?

[Single Stroke Seven]

Thanks for the info guys. Haay, parang gusto ko nang bumili ng Catalina ah! 

[sandythedrummer]

@Sandy: Napansin ko naka-Gibraltar Double Peds ka. Yung HiHat Stand mo, is it a Gibraltar DL-DP? Kasi kung 3-legged hihat stand, it gets in the way of the double peds. I've been wanting to buy a DL-DP. Ok ba performance?

Pare diko alam yung DL-PL. Pero yung sakin is the 5607 series hat stand. The pedal board can be moved using your drumkey. Twist your hat stand to the left to make way for the left slave pedal yun na yun man!!! Gibraltar the best hardware!!! Hehehe

[Miggleness]

yeah! Catalina rocks.

Favorite ko yung 10" tom with stock heads.  Tapos sa 12" and 14" naka G2 on batter, stock on reso.

Ganda ng kit mo Sandy!  Lalo pa napapaganda ng white head sa bass drum

[sandythedrummer]

Salamat!!!

Mas maganda sa personal yan!!!!

[Dindin]

@Sandy: Napansin ko naka-Gibraltar Double Peds ka. Yung HiHat Stand mo, is it a Gibraltar DL-DP? Kasi kung 3-legged hihat stand, it gets in the way of the double peds. I've been wanting to buy a DL-DP. Ok ba performance?

Pare diko alam yung DL-PL. Pero yung sakin is the 5607 series hat stand. The pedal board can be moved using your drumkey. Twist your hat stand to the left to make way for the left slave pedal yun na yun man!!! Gibraltar the best hardware!!! Hehehe

I agree! Gibraltar is the best! hehehe

Here's a quick reference on the meaning of the codes of Gibraltar Hardware... Applies only to the 9600 series Hi-Hat stands...

ML-DP (Movable Leg, Direct lever Pull drive)
ML-LD (Movable Leg, Liquid Drive)
NL-DP (No Leg, Direct lever Pull Drive)
DL-LD (Dual Leg, Liquid Drive)

I have a 9607 DL-LD Dual Leg - Liquid Drive... Smoothest and fastest hi-hat stand I've ever used!

It has two main legs, and a mini leg for added stability... You can rotate them both to make way for double pedals.

Though I don't use double peds...

Teka... OT na... hehehe

[marvinq]

@marvinq: Diba mas makapal coated ambassadors kesa stock head dun sa resonant? So pano tuning nyo dun? Since thinner heads have higher pitch than thicker ones, is it batter-lower resonant-higher or batter=resonant pitchwise?

well, according to my research, you're likely to have a sound you want in a studio setting when the resonant head is tuned a fifth (7 semitones) higher than the batter head. however, we aren't so strict about this, as we still play by ear in the studio. most of the time, we find a sound we're happy with without knowing how we got there in the first place.

also, it's a good thing i only have to worry about recording the drums, not actually tuning them. it's a good thing rickson is very reliable when it comes to tuning the drums.

[nashbass]

mga ser ok ba ang snare ng gretsch catalina maple? quality and sound wise? thankz

[in_the_tent]

Our church in Aurora Blvd JOGSGO uses a Catalina Maple. katulad nung kay Sandy ang kulay. ganda! lalo na siguro kung papalitan ng heads at magaling magtono yung drummer. i also love the 10" tom. one thing though.. i prefer hanging /suspended 14" toms.. mas maganda tumunog eh.. yung katulad ng sa Sonor ba yun? pero thank God for this wonderful kit na binigay Niya sa church namin.

[marvinq]

Here's our kit in the studio.



Top view.



We also have other cymbals.

20" K Custom Medium Ride
20" A Custom Sizzle Ride
20" Legacy Ozone Ride
17" AAXtreme China
6" AAX Splash
13" K/Z Hats
12" A Special Recording Hats

Snares:
Steve Gadd sig. snare
Joey Jordison sig. snare
Omar Hakim sig. snare
Chad Smith sig. snare
Dave Weckl sig. snare
Sonor Jungle Snare 12"x 2"
PDP 805 10"x 6"
Custom Made 13"x 8" Fibreglass
Custom Made 10"x 5" Fibreglass
Custom Made 8"x 2" Fibreglass
Custom Made 6"x 2" Fibreglass

Kick:

16"(dia.) x 18" Fibreglass
13"(dia.) x 24" Fibreglass
16"(dia.) x  5" Fibreglass

[marvinq]

mga ser ok ba ang snare ng gretsch catalina maple? quality and sound wise? thankz

yes, just change the heads. both of them.

[bugoy_king]

Selling any one of those snares marvinq?

[marvinq]

none, as of the moment. just sold the stock snare of the catalina maple, coz i'm planning to replace it with a gretsch renown maple snare (maybe the 14x6).

[Bammbamm]

Whats the best replacement for Gretsch MC stock head?

Meron na bang available na add on toms for Gretsch MC sa pinas?

[marvinq]

special order yata sir.

as for the heads, well, i use coated ambassadors for everything except the kick drum, on which we use powerstroke 3 (...or will be using.... VINCI!!!!). stock resonant heads, except for the snare.

[sandythedrummer]

Whats the best replacement for Gretsch MC stock head?

Meron na bang available na add on toms for Gretsch MC sa pinas?

I use both Coated Ambs and Pinstripes for my Gretsch CMs. Dipende sa mood ko pero i think the best head for these drums to sing is any Single Ply Head. Coated Ambs or Ambs Clear.


Individual toms can be ordered sa JB Music. Kaso hassle ata. Tanungin mo si Ian Tan ng GIG music studio.

[Bammbamm]

Thanks Marvin & Sandy!


Pinalitan ko kasi ng Coated Emperor yung mga toms ko pero parang di ako masaya sa tunog..siguro di ko lang nakuha yung optimum tuning nya...meron bang ideal na tuning sa ganitong klase ng drumhead? Should I keep it low,high or stay in mid?

Salamat uli!

[sparkfly]

Thinking out loud: Maybe after a few months biglang matopak si Sandy at naisipan talaga bumili ng Renown Maple set. Sana benta nalang niya Catalina Maple niya sakin. Tutal maalaga naman sobra to sa gamit eh kaya ok na ok pa condition non..hahaha..