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Offline marko21

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« Reply #50 on: August 21, 2006, 11:40:46 AM »
thanks po.

eh ung drumhead po sa unahan ng bass drum, nakakaapekto rin ba?

bakit nga pala ung ibang bass drum bay mga unan sa loob?

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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2006, 10:27:43 AM »
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eh ung drumhead po sa unahan ng bass drum, nakakaapekto rin ba?

bakit nga pala ung ibang bass drum bay mga unan sa loob?



The bass drum's front head can affect the depth of the drum's sound (same goes for other drums).

Some bass drums have pillows inside in order to control its resonance and provide more definition on its sound.

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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2006, 03:20:53 PM »
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Tuning your drum from a specific note is a Bull. Sorry. A tom sound is composed of many frequencies. That's why there's what we call overtone coz some frequencies are not on the same scale. So the result is sound waves clashes together which gives you an annoying sound. The drum will sound with a specific note (Almost) if it has only one drumhead.


actually i'm not a drummer. but i know enough about drums to be able to say that they do have a fundamental pitch. a lot of studio drummers like to tune their drums according to the key of the song they're working on.

i know this for a fact. my experience with this matter is first hand. there was this song i was producing that was in the key of c. the bar in question had a g chord, and one of the toms was tuned to Bb (i doubt it if it was exactly B flat) but it sustained enough to cause some harmonic disturbance (the B flat note was causing an unnecessary sharp 9th in the chord, and in that particular instance, it was uncalled for).

here's my point, about tuning drums to a note. well, it might be irrelevant in most cases, but it won't hurt if done properly.

i know a very gifted percussionist who likes tuning his stuff to specific notes too...
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« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2006, 03:25:29 PM »
by the way, if drums didn't have a fundamental note, then it would be virtually impossible to tune them correctly. even a snare drum sound is composed of a tone and a crack. that tone is the fundamental note.

the drum dial only helps assuming two things, you are familiar with the specific drum you're tuning, and you know the settings you like. given those two factors, it'll allow you to tune your drums even without hitting them to check if they're properly tuned. when the tension is even, your drumheads will last longer.
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« Reply #54 on: August 22, 2006, 10:17:16 PM »
OH kala ko ba Maya ang iniskor mo?
Anyway,palagay ko nang dalawa ang kit mo.Isa, pang practice,yung isa pang session.
Kung gusto mong Huwag madinig ng kapit-bahay nyo yung pang practice na kit mo,Gumamit ka ng Pearl Muffle Head,extreme silence to! Kahit Tatay mo sa kabilang kuwarto,di madidinig ang hataw mo!

Ang Pearl Muffle Head ay drumhead na parang stocking o net.Gawa ito sa nylon(siguro naka encounter ka na din nito,kulay black na screen)
Well,para magkaroon sya ng konting tunog, Iwan mong nkatono yung mga  resonant heads ng kit mo,tapos yung Muffle head na pinaka batter head mo,isalpak mo at higpitan mo ng katulad ng natural na higpit ng mga batterheads para pareho ang talbog at feel.Lagyan mo ng Packaging tape sa gitna o gilid.
Mas maraming packaging tape na idikit,mas magre resonate ang drums(lalakas ang tunog)

Ito na lang ang alam kong PINAKAMURANG solution sa problema sa ingay.
Yun nga lang,di mo sya magagamit pang session sa band!Practisan lang talaga.
Ang point kasi dito,makapagpractice ka ng as natural as possible.Di kasi pwedeng hinaan ang palo,di rin advisable na takpan ng tela yung drums kasi mag iiba ang feel nito.
Yung cymbals,pwede dikitan mo din ng tissue paper para mabilis ang decay.
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« Reply #55 on: August 22, 2006, 10:26:15 PM »
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OH kala ko ba Maya ang iniskor mo?
Anyway,palagay ko nang dalawa ang kit mo.Isa, pang practice,yung isa pang session.
Kung gusto mong Huwag madinig ng kapit-bahay nyo yung pang practice na kit mo,Gumamit ka ng Pearl Muffle Head,extreme silence to! Kahit Tatay mo sa kabilang kuwarto,di madidinig ang hataw mo!

Ang Pearl Muffle Head ay drumhead na parang stocking o net.Gawa ito sa nylon(siguro naka encounter ka na din nito,kulay black na screen)
Well,para magkaroon sya ng konting tunog, Iwan mong nkatono yung mga  resonant heads ng kit mo,tapos yung Muffle head na pinaka batter head mo,isalpak mo at higpitan mo ng katulad ng natural na higpit ng mga batterheads para pareho ang talbog at feel.Lagyan mo ng Packaging tape sa gitna o gilid.
Mas maraming packaging tape na idikit,mas magre resonate ang drums(lalakas ang tunog)

Ito na lang ang alam kong PINAKAMURANG solution sa problema sa ingay.
Yun nga lang,di mo sya magagamit pang session sa band!Practisan lang talaga.
Ang point kasi dito,makapagpractice ka ng as natural as possible.Di kasi pwedeng hinaan ang palo,di rin advisable na takpan ng tela yung drums kasi mag iiba ang feel nito.
Yung cymbals,pwede dikitan mo din ng tissue paper para mabilis ang decay.
wow thanks.. pero gusto pa rin ang totoong ingay wahehe. tsetsempuhan ko na lang na wala ung kapit bahay namin.. (wala naman un sa umaga hanggang hapon eh..) hehehe :D

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« Reply #56 on: August 22, 2006, 11:10:12 PM »
Well,Talagang masarap ang ingay ng drums!...Sa kuwarto kamo naka-set ang drums mo?!?
Masakit sa tenga yan! Siguraduhin mo na  may mga kurtina sa paligid mo.kung puwede nga lang buong paligid makapal na kurtina para mabawasan ang resonance ng buong drums.Kasi madumi ang tunog ng drums pag di maganda ang acoustic ng lugar.
Kung maari nga lang maglagay ka pa ng earplug para di ka mabingi!
Makakabili ka nito sa mga music store.Proteksyon yan, kesa magsisi ka.

Ako very sensitive na ang tenga ko sa ngayon...NGAYON ko lang nararanasan.Dahil hindi ako nag iingat noon! Wala nang gamot ito!

Gusto mo bang makarinig na parang alanganing channel ng AM radio station ang paligid mo?!? :(
So Be It.

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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2006, 05:58:18 AM »
Bakit po pag gagawa ng pattern at tska po sa mga drum roll, di ko ma-type-an yung mga small tom-toms? parang wala sila sa tono kahit naka tono naman sila?


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« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2006, 10:41:48 AM »
Ang ginawa ng mentor ko sa bass niya, nag-glue siya ng styrofoam (yung pangkama) paikot sa loob ng shell ng bass drum, katabi mismo ng batter head. Parang gumawa siya ng mas discreet version ng o-ring.  :wink:

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« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2006, 10:50:41 AM »
Ano ba genre mo?
Preference lang yan.  :wink:

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« Reply #60 on: August 23, 2006, 04:38:11 PM »
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Ang ginawa ng mentor ko sa bass niya, nag-glue siya ng styrofoam (yung pangkama) paikot sa loob ng shell ng bass drum, katabi mismo ng batter head. Parang gumawa siya ng mas discreet version ng o-ring.  :wink:

ok na yung 2nog ng ganun? ano 2nog ng bass drum?
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« Reply #61 on: August 23, 2006, 06:25:58 PM »
Generally, rock po ang genre ko. Sayang naman kasi yung tomtoms.  :D

Di ko talaga ma-type-an ang tunog nya. Tsaka di sakin yung drums.  :D

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« Reply #62 on: August 23, 2006, 07:34:21 PM »
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Well,Talagang masarap ang ingay ng drums!...Sa kuwarto kamo naka-set ang drums mo?!?
Masakit sa tenga yan! Siguraduhin mo na  may mga kurtina sa paligid mo.kung puwede nga lang buong paligid makapal na kurtina para mabawasan ang resonance ng buong drums.Kasi madumi ang tunog ng drums pag di maganda ang acoustic ng lugar.
Kung maari nga lang maglagay ka pa ng earplug para di ka mabingi!
Makakabili ka nito sa mga music store.Proteksyon yan, kesa magsisi ka.

Ako very sensitive na ang tenga ko sa ngayon...NGAYON ko lang nararanasan.Dahil hindi ako nag iingat noon! Wala nang gamot ito!

Gusto mo bang makarinig na parang alanganing channel ng AM radio station ang paligid mo?!? :(
hehe thanks i'll try that..

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« Reply #63 on: August 23, 2006, 11:23:16 PM »
Habol mo ba yung boomy type ng tom?

Option mo e luwagan ang resonant side ng tom mo, or bili ka na ng mas malaki/mahaba.

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« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2006, 04:45:43 AM »
Subukan ko ser! Salamat sa payo ha!

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« Reply #65 on: August 26, 2006, 11:28:21 AM »
may alam po ba kayo na tabs ng drums? (mga opm)

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« Reply #66 on: August 26, 2006, 10:06:23 PM »
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Ang ginawa ng mentor ko sa bass niya, nag-glue siya ng styrofoam (yung pangkama) paikot sa loob ng shell ng bass drum, katabi mismo ng batter head. Parang gumawa siya ng mas discreet version ng o-ring.  :wink:


lam ko pwede rin ang rolled towel eh  :)
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« Reply #67 on: August 26, 2006, 10:27:51 PM »
how about cork instead of styro? effective rin kaya ang cork?  :wink:

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« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2006, 10:29:24 PM »
havent tried that....pero pwede din yata  :)
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« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2006, 10:30:17 PM »
ok..try ko na lang..  :D

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« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2006, 10:32:56 PM »
hahatiin mo yung cork board tapos ilalagay mo sa gilid?
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« Reply #71 on: August 27, 2006, 12:08:36 AM »
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Ang ginawa ng mentor ko sa bass niya, nag-glue siya ng styrofoam (yung pangkama) paikot sa loob ng shell ng bass drum, katabi mismo ng batter head. Parang gumawa siya ng mas discreet version ng o-ring.  :wink:


lam ko pwede rin ang rolled towel eh  :)


i tried this ngaun lang dati ko pa balak gawin to eh dati kasi unan nakalagay, ok cya pero afterwards prang namiss ko ung character ng bass drum ko, kaya to get the most sound from my bass, i took the unan out at rolled towel nalang nilagay ko mas ok na cya ngayon mas fuller, boomier ung sound ng bass ko at mas malakas hehehe
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« Reply #72 on: August 27, 2006, 04:14:16 PM »
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hahatiin mo yung cork board tapos ilalagay mo sa gilid?
di... ilalagay ko sa bintana namin  :D

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« Reply #73 on: August 27, 2006, 06:48:14 PM »
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hahatiin mo yung cork board tapos ilalagay mo sa gilid?
di... ilalagay ko sa bintana namin  :D


ahh gets! oo pwedeng pwede ang cork..actually yun din ang ginagamit sa mga studio dito eh....effective siya  :wink:
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« Reply #74 on: August 27, 2006, 06:49:08 PM »
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Ang ginawa ng mentor ko sa bass niya, nag-glue siya ng styrofoam (yung pangkama) paikot sa loob ng shell ng bass drum, katabi mismo ng batter head. Parang gumawa siya ng mas discreet version ng o-ring.  :wink:


lam ko pwede rin ang rolled towel eh  :)


i tried this ngaun lang dati ko pa balak gawin to eh dati kasi unan nakalagay, ok cya pero afterwards prang namiss ko ung character ng bass drum ko, kaya to get the most sound from my bass, i took the unan out at rolled towel nalang nilagay ko mas ok na cya ngayon mas fuller, boomier ung sound ng bass ko at mas malakas hehehe


gagawin ko rin to mamaya! hehehehe  :)
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