Need help in partial upgrade!

[badongrodrigs]

http://support.asus.com/cpusupport/cpusupport.aspx?SLanguage=en-us&model=A8V-MX
just checked the asus website and it can support up to an athlon x2 (939) 4800 or a opteron dual core 185 subject to the bios version of your motherboard. the latest version is 503.

now as to whether you can get any of these processors, that is another matter.

thanks for that info!

i found an athlon x2 4800 dual core box in the pcexpress website. i hope they have stocks.

[badongrodrigs]

what d'you guys think about the Athlon 64 FX-60?

[badongrodrigs]

UPDATE:

i just found out that my mobo only supports DDR, curse the light.

im now gearing towards upgrading my motherboard, my processor and my RAM.

my reason for the upgrade is not gaming; im using programs such as 3D Studio Max, Adobe Illustrator and Photoshop, among others. however, my main goal is to improve rendering times (decrease it) in 3D rendering programs and i've researched that a dual core can achieve that.

now im not sure whether to go Intel or stay with AMD. perhaps my main consideration is cost.

another thing, i've just recently bought an Nvidia GF6800GS 128mb AGP video card (since my present mobo only supported AGP), and i don't want to replace it since video cards are expensive. can AGP still be supported by the latest mobos (those who are already supporting PCI-Express slots)?

please, if you have any suggestions, kindly help. thanks a lot!

badong

[KitC]

i found an athlon x2 4800 dual core box in the pcexpress website. i hope they have stocks.

Are you sure about this? Their site only lists a 3000+ 939.

what d'you guys think about the Athlon 64 FX-60?

If you can find one, let me know too. I'd even settle for an Opteron 185.

[badongrodrigs]

Are you sure about this? Their site only lists a 3000+ 939.

it's listed under the socket AM2. but the ASUS link said that the model supported socket 939, and i'm more inclined to believing the ASUS site rather than pcx.

[KitC]

it's listed under the socket AM2. but the ASUS link said that the model supported socket 939, and i'm more inclined to believing the ASUS site rather than pcx.

pcx lists the 4800+ X2 under AM2, not 939. All pc vendors now only stock AM2 cpus which is incompatible with your mobo. The only online retailers I've seen with 939 X2 are newegg.com and tigerdirect.com

If you want to look for 939 cpus locally (secondhand), try tipidpc.com

[3650guy]

http://www.amd.com/us-en/recmobo/DetailHandler/1,,30_182_869_9460%5E9461,00.html?queryID=105103

basta eto yun compatibility. good luck he he...
the search is on...

[badongrodrigs]

^^ oo nga noh, eh yung +3000 yung processor ko ngayon, so un-upgradeable na pala talaga.

anyway, i've chosen to upgrade my motherboard to one that can support dual core processors but still support AGP graphics.

i've also chosen to upgrade to an Athlon 64 X2 5200.

my only problem is the memory since i know little about it.

[badongrodrigs]

eto yung napili kong motherboard. http://www.superwarehouse.com/MSI_K9MM-V_Motherboard/K9MM-V/ps/1495322

kasi anjan yung kailangan mainly Dual Core Support, AGP slot, at DDR2 slots 2GB max.

i was told na magandang brand din ang MSI.

question lang, ano yung meaning nung "Supported RAM Speed    PC2-4300, PC2-6400, PC2-5300" eh mga 3 digit speeds lang yung nakikita ko sa mga DDR2...?

MSI K9MM-V Motherboard
Form Factor    Micro ATX
Chipset Type    VIA UniChrome Pro K8M800 / VIA VT8237R Plus
Multi Core Support    Dual Core
Max Bus Speed    800 MHz
Processor    Socket Type    0 ( 1 ) - Socket AM2
Compatible Processors    Athlon 64, Sempron, Athlon 64 FX, Athlon 64 X2
64 Bit Processor Compatibility    Yes
Multi Core Support    Dual-Core
Max Bus Speed    800 MHz
Chipset Type    VIA UniChrome Pro K8M800 / VIA VT8237R Plus
Memory    Supported RAM Technology    DDR II SDRAM
RAM Installed    0 MB / 2 GB (max)
Supported RAM Speed    PC2-4300, PC2-6400, PC2-5300
RAM Features    Two DDR Channels
Video    Graphics Controller    VIA UniChrome Pro K8M800
Video Memory    Shared video memory (UMA)
Audio    Audio Output    Sound Card
Signal Processor    Intel HD Audio
Audio Codec    Realtek ALC655
Sound Output Mode    5.1 channel surround
Networking    Network adapter - Realtek RTL8201CL - Ethernet, Fast Ethernet
Expansion / Connectivity    Expansion Slots Total (Free)    1 processor - Socket AM2
2 memory ( 1.8 V ) - DIMM 240-pin
1 AGP 8x
3 PCI ( 3.3 V/ 5 V )
Storage Interfaces    ATA-133 - connector(s): 1 x 40pin IDC - 2 device(s)
Serial ATA-150 - connector(s): 2 x 7pin Serial ATA - 2 device(s) - RAID 0 / RAID 1
Interfaces    1 x storage - floppy interface - 34 pin IDC
1 x parallel - IEEE 1284 (EPP/ECP) - 25 pin D-Sub (DB-25)
2 x serial - RS-232 - 9 pin D-Sub (DB-9)
4 x Hi-Speed USB - 4 pin USB Type A
1 x audio - SPDIF output - RCA
1 x audio - SPDIF output - TOS Link
1 x audio - line-out (rear) - mini-phone 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-out (center/subwoofer) - mini-phone 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-out - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x audio - line-in - mini-phone stereo 3.5 mm
1 x display / video - VGA - 15 pin HD D-Sub (HD-15)
1 x network - Ethernet 10Base-T/100Base-TX - RJ-45
Additional Connectors    4 x Hi-Speed USB
Compliant Standards    Plug and Play, RoHS

[3650guy]

MSI, ASUS, ASrock, Abit, Gigabyte are major brands.

the model you stated is a mid level model.
anyway ganito ata yung sa memory:
good old 266 memory becomes 533, 333 becomes 667, and 400 becomes 800 > DDR2 memory.

....hmmmm agp slot.... (does not want to part with Nvidia GF6800GS 128mb AGP video card... not good)... do more research... don't jump in just yet....

actually sa AM2 platform mas mura pa ang DDR2 saka PCIe graphics card... then again I don't know anything... he he

[badongrodrigs]

....hmmmm agp slot.... (does not want to part with Nvidia GF6800GS 128mb AGP video card... not good)... do more research... don't jump in just yet....

actually i know that buying a mobo that only has an AGP expansion slot is another bottleneck altogether since fewer and fewer AGP models are getting released (meron pa ba?)

but i'm really reluctant to part with it since it's almost new and it cost around 7k, which i will practically throw away once i buy a mobo with PCI-E expansion slot.

going Intel is no option, since i still haven't found mobos that support INTEL C2D, AGP, and DDR2.

[tagagapo]

kung mga rendering mataas na ram at dual core na processor makakakita ka ng malaking pag kakaiba kesa sa ram lang ang upupgrade mo.

Motherboard-processor-ram the best possible upgrade.

[KitC]

but i'm really reluctant to part with it since it's almost new and it cost around 7k, which i will practically throw away once i buy a mobo with PCI-E expansion slot.

You could always sell the vidcard at TPC... there are still takers.

[badongrodrigs]

You could always sell the vidcard at TPC... there are still takers.

i know. since my last posting i've been extensively researching about my options. and my decision has changed.

i've decided to go for the best bang for the buck deal: a high end mobo, low end or middle range INTEL dual core, two 1gb 800 corsairs, and whatever video card i can get for 3k.

im going to have my mobo overclock the processor.

i'm going to have to sell that agp video card, and yes i think i can still salvage around 1.5k-2k from it in tipidpc.

[tagagapo]

i know. since my last posting i've been extensively researching about my options. and my decision has changed.

i've decided to go for the best bang for the buck deal: a high end mobo, low end or middle range INTEL dual core, two 1gb 800 corsairs, and whatever video card i can get for 3k.

im going to have my mobo overclock the processor.

i'm going to have to sell that agp video card, and yes i think i can still salvage around 1.5k-2k from it in tipidpc.

bakit mo ooverclock? mukhang mas magiging magastus pag ni overclock mo kasi kailangan mo ng magandang cooling system may possiblities pa na mag freeze and PC mo dring rendering.

[badongrodrigs]

bakit mo ooverclock? mukhang mas magiging magastus pag ni overclock mo kasi kailangan mo ng magandang cooling system may possiblities pa na mag freeze and PC mo dring rendering.

yeah those are the kinds of issues that i'm really worrying about, pero my friend who offered to do it reassured me that there are already presets for OCing our selected CPU which would give us a rock steady speed and temp.

[tagagapo]

yeah those are the kinds of issues that i'm really worrying about, pero my friend who offered to do it reassured me that there are already presets for OCing our selected CPU which would give us a rock steady speed and temp.

Well good luck pre, sana wag masunog dahil sayang din un gagastusin mo pag kasi na overclock ibig sabihin hindi na cover ng warranty yung PC parts pasensya na kung makulit ako pero reminder lang pre

Pero keep your fingers cross kasi ang stable na overclock at ginagamitan ng water cooling system sensiya na ulit kung makulit ako reminder lang ulit.

[marzi]

OC mo lang sa recommended clock speeds, kahit hindi liquid cooled pc mo ok lang...pero kelangan naka magandang cpu cooler ka...

[KitC]

Well good luck pre, sana wag masunog dahil sayang din un gagastusin mo pag kasi na overclock ibig sabihin hindi na cover ng warranty yung PC parts pasensya na kung makulit ako pero reminder lang pre

Pero keep your fingers cross kasi ang stable na overclock at ginagamitan ng water cooling system sensiya na ulit kung makulit ako reminder lang ulit.

I've seen a 2 ghz cpu oc'd to 3+ ghz with regular air cooling. I regularly ran my old 1433 mhz Athlon 1700+ Thoroughbred at 1800mhz (roughly 2100+) with plain air cooling (although the 'take Volcano's whine was irritatingly loud - could have gone higher with a better HSF or water). Some modern cpus allow you to overclock substantially without even having to tweak voltages. You don't even need water cooling just to overclock, just use the right components - I'm running my mems at 500 mhz right now using specified voltage for XMS memory! Don't diss something you are not familiar with.

[3650guy]

okay panggulo naman....
http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1630458

Athlon X2 4800+ Socket 939 Toledo Pre-sell 6k

Planning to shift to Core 2 Duo kaya pre-sell ko muna itong processor ko na classic meaning tentative pa pag natuloy ang upgrade ko.


Athlon X2 4800+ 2.4 ghz 1 mb Toledo Socket 939

Processor only no heatsink fan. Will provide 3 days testing warranty enough test if the unit is 100% working. Overclocking voids the personal warranty. Rare item.

Note: I have the right to choose the buyer and the customer is not always right. Thanks for looking!^_^

6k is kinda pricey... fyi lang he he...

[marzi]

Processor only no heatsink fan. Will provide 3 days testing warranty enough test if the unit is 100% working. Overclocking voids the personal warranty. Rare item.

sa 3 days testing warranty pa lang talo na ang seller...walang heatsink fan eh sabog agad yan 

[3650guy]

he he... syempre it goes without saying.... this is how you mount a heatsink > http://www.hardocp.com/images/news/11872118966JRZ9Sod57_1_1_l.jpg
link courtesy of KitC...

[KitC]

he he... syempre it goes without saying.... this is how you mount a heatsink > http://www.hardocp.com/images/news/11872118966JRZ9Sod57_1_1_l.jpg
link courtesy of KitC...

  priceless!

[marzi]

he he... syempre it goes without saying.... this is how you mount a heatsink > http://www.hardocp.com/images/news/11872118966JRZ9Sod57_1_1_l.jpg
link courtesy of KitC...

hehehee...Badong anjan ka pa ba?

tignan mo maigi yung pic dito ha? yan ang tamang pag install ng HSF..baka magkamali ka eh hehehee 

[badongrodrigs]

okay, i have to admit that i've never replaced a processor by my own so im not confident enough to laugh about the pic. hehe

anyway, yes, i'm decided to go Intel and OC it. but i'd probably still wait until the summer, baka bumaba pa price. hehe