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Putting up a production? Read this!
cool2ny:
hmmm, dagdag na katanungan...
papano kikita yung production, kung walng ticket selling?
may porsyento ba sa kita ng bar/venue sa mga order ng food and drinks?
PM nalang po yung kasagutan, kung feeling nyo (mga prodduction) e medyo mabibisto yung raket :-D
balak ko rin kasi, pero ayaw ko ng ticket selling, kasi as a band ayaw ko rin ng ticket selling na production... pero syempre gusto ko rin naman rumaket :-D
kaloyster:
Sa Kolumn Bar alam co laging free entrance eh. Siguro may cut nga yung nagpa-prod sa mismong bar. Not sure though.
inigo:
Paying for the venue: talk to the venue owner. May venues that ask for a guarantee, there are those who don't. Bar guarantees start from 5K and go to as high as... sobrang mahal, depende sa venue. May iba naman na walang guarantee for weekdays, but meron on weekends. Purple Haze is like this.
Bands: Ikaw ang bahala magtawag ng banda. Mas OK kung similar genres or similar audiences, para lahat ng tao mag-eenjoy at hindi agad aalis. Mas maraming banda, mas maraming oorder ng beer, pero mas konti ang songs per set. TF can be arranged, depende sa banda. Pwede ring may hati sila sa cover charge. Kung walang TF, magpa-beer ka man lang. At.... importante nga pala na terms are clear for the band the moment pa lang na inimbita sila, hindi yung surprise terms when they get to the venue na.
Scheduling scheme - may iba first-come, first choice of sked. May iba naman, may set sked na. May iba naman, walang kwenta magsked, labo-labo... huwag tularan ang mga ito.
Tickets: Depende ang presyo sa areglo with the venue owner. On a consumer point of view, 100-150 is acceptable, 200 and up is ok only if the band inside is worth watching, a.k.a. sikat or magaling. Ticket selling... ayoko magplay para sa prod niyo kung ticket selling. Meron bang matinong banda na papayag sa ticket selling? Dahil hindi ka makakakuha ng magaling na banda, you will be known as the olats prod... hindi uunlad ang prod mo. You just need to promise a good show para balik-balikan ka. The first prod night will probably leave you penniless, pero if you accumulate a good reputation, hindi ka na mahihirapan humatak ng magagaling na banda, sponsors, at kita in the long run.
Marketing: Bilang prod organizer, kayo ang may main responsibility magpromote ng gig. Bands also do this through their mailing lists, mass texting, inviting their friends, etc. Pero putting up posters, announcing the gig on radio, disseminating in mailing lists (e.g. Pinoy rock) ay sa inyo na.
Sponsors: sila ang bahala gumastos para sa prod mo, at least to an extent. Pero ang kapalit ay maraming tao ang makakarinig ng produkto nila. Pag olats ang prod, lesser tendency for sponsorship. Kelangan din ng pagpaplano ito... ang mga companies (e.g. San Miguel), gusto ng 1 month in advance ang proposals for sponsorship. And mas trip nila ang series of gigs, hindi paisa-isa lang. And... consult your yellow pages for details.
Profit: Money comes from consumers and sponsors. Consumers give you money via tickets, or through an arrangement with the venue owner on the percentage of the night's sales. Aregluhan yun with the venue owner.
Isa pang source ng income ay merchandise... sell demo cds, buttons, silk-screened shirts, etc ng bandang tutugtog. With their consent ha.
Pero essentially, walang kitang pambuhay sa pagpoprod. Unless big time.
Good luck!
bakx:
karaniwan sa bar is mga 7k ata sa kanila
me porsyento kapa dun
ang gusto kase ng bar eh mapalitan ng production mo yung kita nila ng regular night
because your renting the bar
me porsyento kapa siguro dun
and ok lang na may ticket selling
mga 100 per head wit free beer
ok na yun
i have a friend na may production kase
and ok naman buhay niya ngayon
basta hanap ka ng bar na ok talaga
no problem sa gamit
and ticket selling and price
sa mga bands,madale na yun
me philmusic naman and we can help you para makalat yung prod. sir
imrahil:
Excellent explanation.. couldn't have said it better myself :)
And I totally agree with the last point... unless all the bands you get agree to not get paid for the night, then putting up productions is not a good way of making money.. most productions do it for the exposure and the camaraderie.
The most important thing to remember is that ALL of the work in putting up a production happens at least a month or two before the actual event. This means getting sponsors, putting up posters, getting the bands, sending out flyers, blast emails, etc. etc. Usually having a small team in your production can accomplish this, which means you can just delegate certain responsibilities. Playground Productions is like this, as well as Heartfire Productions. They are very well organized and know how to plan in advance. Putting up a prod is not just about finding out the terms of the bar, and then getting the bands. You can't rely on walk ins.. kailangan may hatak yung mga banda.
Good luck with your prod and hope you succeed :-D
--- Quote from: inigo on August 21, 2007, 04:14:56 PM ---Paying for the venue: talk to the venue owner. May venues that ask for a guarantee, there are those who don't. Bar guarantees start from 5K and go to as high as... sobrang mahal, depende sa venue. May iba naman na walang guarantee for weekdays, but meron on weekends. Purple Haze is like this.
Bands: Ikaw ang bahala magtawag ng banda. Mas OK kung similar genres or similar audiences, para lahat ng tao mag-eenjoy at hindi agad aalis. Mas maraming banda, mas maraming oorder ng beer, pero mas konti ang songs per set. TF can be arranged, depende sa banda. Pwede ring may hati sila sa cover charge. Kung walang TF, magpa-beer ka man lang. At.... importante nga pala na terms are clear for the band the moment pa lang na inimbita sila, hindi yung surprise terms when they get to the venue na.
Scheduling scheme - may iba first-come, first choice of sked. May iba naman, may set sked na. May iba naman, walang kwenta magsked, labo-labo... huwag tularan ang mga ito.
Tickets: Depende ang presyo sa areglo with the venue owner. On a consumer point of view, 100-150 is acceptable, 200 and up is ok only if the band inside is worth watching, a.k.a. sikat or magaling. Ticket selling... ayoko magplay para sa prod niyo kung ticket selling. Meron bang matinong banda na papayag sa ticket selling? Dahil hindi ka makakakuha ng magaling na banda, you will be known as the olats prod... hindi uunlad ang prod mo. You just need to promise a good show para balik-balikan ka. The first prod night will probably leave you penniless, pero if you accumulate a good reputation, hindi ka na mahihirapan humatak ng magagaling na banda, sponsors, at kita in the long run.
Marketing: Bilang prod organizer, kayo ang may main responsibility magpromote ng gig. Bands also do this through their mailing lists, mass texting, inviting their friends, etc. Pero putting up posters, announcing the gig on radio, disseminating in mailing lists (e.g. Pinoy rock) ay sa inyo na.
Sponsors: sila ang bahala gumastos para sa prod mo, at least to an extent. Pero ang kapalit ay maraming tao ang makakarinig ng produkto nila. Pag olats ang prod, lesser tendency for sponsorship. Kelangan din ng pagpaplano ito... ang mga companies (e.g. San Miguel), gusto ng 1 month in advance ang proposals for sponsorship. And mas trip nila ang series of gigs, hindi paisa-isa lang. And... consult your yellow pages for details.
Profit: Money comes from consumers and sponsors. Consumers give you money via tickets, or through an arrangement with the venue owner on the percentage of the night's sales. Aregluhan yun with the venue owner.
Isa pang source ng income ay merchandise... sell demo cds, buttons, silk-screened shirts, etc ng bandang tutugtog. With their consent ha.
Pero essentially, walang kitang pambuhay sa pagpoprod. Unless big time.
Good luck!
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