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Re: Driving 101
« Reply #1175 on: June 16, 2014, 10:52:20 PM »

ako nag simula sa two wheels na VTEC.


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seriously yung mga naka high beam sa city, wtf! yung bf ng kaibigan ko (she always tasks me to drive us around) nung nasa may "dark" sections kami ng Imelda Ave e bigla ba naman pinapabukas ang high beam kasi "madilim" daw.

tado lang.

agree ako. noong natuto akong mag-bike, nasabi ko sa sarili ko na kahit papaano eh nakakapag-drive ako. hehe.

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Shred_22 depende sa lugar na binabagtas mo 'yung paggamit ng high beams. since nakatira ka ngayon sa siyudad, it is best na low beams lang ang gamitin mo. street lights will aid you to see kung may tumatawid ng kalsada. actually parehas tayo eh, na kung walang kasalubong eh always akong naka-high beams. about dun sa pedestrians sa street nyo, pitik pitik lang sa high beams, ibig sabihin non nasensyasan mo na sila, yun ay kung tatawid pa lang sila. pero kung may chance naman sila na makatawid dahil malayo ka pa, low beams and slow down.

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« Reply #1176 on: June 16, 2014, 11:21:32 PM »
@ Shred22

preferably open roads na walang masisilaw, or kung may kasalubong, dip your beams before they pass para di sila masilaw  :wink:

fog lights, driving lights and other auxilliary lighting (rear fogs included) are to be used only in poor visibility (heavy rain / fog) conditions para makita mo dinadaanan mo at makita ka ng kasalubong (fog / driving lights) and ng kasunod mo (rear fogs)

hindi sagot ang hazard lights sa poor visibility conditions. using hazards is "common sense" dito sa Pinas pero hindi ito sound driving practice. nor should it be used while parking. using hazards disables your car's ability to signal left or right turns. kung tingin mo "hazard" ka sa kalye kasi di ka makakita ng maayos, itabi mo at patila ng ulan. i once drove along EDSA during a heavy downpour, from Guadalupe looking down patawid ng tulay going into Pioneer, everyone had their hazards on. wtf!
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« Reply #1177 on: June 17, 2014, 03:46:28 AM »
regarding the use of lights... and imhou, applicable kahit sa atin.


By law, your vehicle’s headlights must be turned on from a half
hour after sunset until a half hour before sunrise. Lights must
also be on any time conditions make it difficult to see people or
other vehicles. Here are some things you can do that will help
you see better:

use your high beams whenever there are no oncoming
vehicles. High beams let you see twice as far as low beams.
It is important to use high beams on unfamiliar roads, in
construction areas, or where there may be people along the
side of the road.

dim your high beams whenever you come within 500 feet of
an oncoming vehicle.

use your low beams when following 300 feet or less behind
another vehicle.

use the low beams in fog or when it is snowing or raining
hard. Light from high beams will reflect back, causing
glare and making it more difficult to see ahead. Some
vehicles have fog lights that you should also use under these
conditions.


If a vehicle comes toward you with high beams on, look away
from the headlights and toward the right side of the road until
the car has passed. This will keep you from being blinded by
the other vehicle’s headlights and allow you to see enough of
the edge of the road to stay on course. Do not try to “get back”
at the other driver by keeping your bright lights on. If you do,
both of you may be blinded.


source:

Department of Licensing: Washington Driver Guide

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« Reply #1178 on: June 17, 2014, 04:29:58 PM »
patulong naman okay lang ba na may maling details sa license mo? mali kasi yung address eh CF street. naging LF street. saka yung picture ba sa I.D permanent na yun or every 3years pag nag renew ka babaguhin? btw pro na yung license 1 & 2 kahit private use at hindi ako marunong mag motor  :lol:

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« Reply #1179 on: June 17, 2014, 05:03:26 PM »
@ Shred22

preferably open roads na walang masisilaw, or kung may kasalubong, dip your beams before they pass para di sila masilaw  :wink:

fog lights, driving lights and other auxilliary lighting (rear fogs included) are to be used only in poor visibility (heavy rain / fog) conditions para makita mo dinadaanan mo at makita ka ng kasalubong (fog / driving lights) and ng kasunod mo (rear fogs)

hindi sagot ang hazard lights sa poor visibility conditions. using hazards is "common sense" dito sa Pinas pero hindi ito sound driving practice. nor should it be used while parking. using hazards disables your car's ability to signal left or right turns. kung tingin mo "hazard" ka sa kalye kasi di ka makakita ng maayos, itabi mo at patila ng ulan. i once drove along EDSA during a heavy downpour, from Guadalupe looking down patawid ng tulay going into Pioneer, everyone had their hazards on. wtf!

+10000!
Fog lights are enough kung malakas ang ulan. No need for hazard light, mas lalong hazardous ka pag yan ginamit mo, since hindi na nagana signal lights mo.  There's a reason why its called hazard light and not heavy rain lights. lol :eek:


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« Reply #1180 on: June 17, 2014, 08:08:17 PM »
^ tama ka jan bro, kasi dito sa pilipinas iniisip ng tao gagamitin ito kung "hazardous" ang condition kasi "hazard" light  :eek:


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kung kaya ipaayos mo details ng lisensya mo, it's meant to identify you as a legal entity and if there are discrepancies then your bearing of the license can be brought into question. and yes napapalitan po ang pics sa lisensya everytime you renew kaya kung hindi ka satisfied sa original e may pagasa pa!  :razz:
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« Reply #1181 on: June 17, 2014, 10:08:51 PM »
^ salamat sir  :)

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« Reply #1182 on: June 17, 2014, 11:19:56 PM »
speaking of headlights ano na kaya kinahinatnan nito

2 minors injured in separate road rage incidents in QC

In his account, which was shared on Facebook by a friend, the father said he was with his family travelling along M.H. Del Pilar Street around 4 a.m. when he came across the SUV “with its very bright headlight directly blinding my sight.”

“So when the driver of the said SUV and I met side by side, I brought my window down and he did so too... I asked him politely and said... ‘Brod, pwede mo namang ibaba’ (meaning dim his headlight),” read the post.

It said the other driver replied arrogantly, saying “Eh, ano ngayon?!”

The father narrated that when they starting to move forward, they heard three gunshots, prompting his wife to urge him to immediately leave the area.

“A few seconds later, my youngest daughter shouted ‘Aray!’ then our eldest daughter told us there was blood from her sister. My wife then hugged our youngest daughter and told me to drive to the hospital emergency room,” read the post.

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« Reply #1183 on: June 18, 2014, 12:59:35 AM »
May nakasabay ako kanina, SUV na puti, mayron syang matinding ilaw sa kanyang bumper, as in 3/4 ng bumper (naka gitna), parang florescent light. Natawa ako, akala ko kasi a55hole na gusto lang makasilaw, pag pass ko sakanya, napansin nya siguro na tinatakpan ko side mirror ko, kasi I can barely see what's in front of us. (I was on my scoot, btw). Pinatay nya yung ilaw. Kung nandito ka man Mr. SUV driver, binago mo ang perception ko sa mga SUV drivers. Hindi pala lahat ay a55holes. hahaha! SALUTE!
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« Reply #1184 on: June 18, 2014, 01:03:57 AM »
^ i wonder ano ba napapala nila sa pananakit ng ganyan, or yung simpleng heed the advice, or magbigayan sa daan.


just earlier tonight, papunta ako ng office. pag akyat from jp rizal up to edsa under the guadalupe bridge, may Land Cruiser with diplomatic plates (6351) na pilit sumisingit sa right side ko trying to get to my lane. kaso niyo, until halos makasampa sa tulay pilit siya ng pilit sumingit, his front left tire coming within scant inches of my fender (yes mababa po oto ko) until i blared the horn at nagbigay na siya at last. then sumingit siya to the other lane and was "feinting" to get back to my lane, which is so to say e he's trying to get back at me. so he feinted once, twice then the third time halos naipasok niya sa lane ko then i just stopped to avoid a collision.

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« Reply #1185 on: June 18, 2014, 01:35:14 AM »
Yung hazard lights during heavy rain is OK kung nasa toll way. Hindi kasi lahat ng nasa likod ng auto mo would have fog lamps. And common sense dictates naman na kapag malapit na sa exits, nasa right most yung sasakyan na eexit. At kung hindi ka naman e-exit, hindi ka naman pupunta sa right-most lane. Plus you don't need signal lights kung heavy rain na near zero visibility. O-overtake ka ba kapag ganun ang road condition?


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« Reply #1186 on: June 18, 2014, 03:57:27 AM »
^ i see bro, para sa kin kasi and i believe to most, if not all motorists, importante ang turn signals. we can't assume under low visibility conditions, we need to know, and that's where a lot of motorists fail (let's admit it, may oras na nakakaligtaan natin, myself included at times) - they fail to signal their intentions if they're exiting a toll way, or planning to pass a vehicle etc. and under low visibility conditions, you can't see far ahead of you so you need as much information about the vehicles around you, hence the proper use of turn signals.

also, if everyone is using their hazard lights, and you stall in the middle of an expressway without a way to make it to the shoulder, how will you signal to people behind you that you're presenting a hazard to them by your vehicle being stalled? or if your vehicle suffers some kind of failure (like say you popped a conrod bearing but you can't stop, and you have to suck it up moving at 40kph where the minimum is 60kph)

you'll look like everyone else flashing their hazards, and at least until the moments before impact, iisipin mo din that the vehicle in front of you is moving.

silly as it sounds, but that kind of thing can and will happen (lalo ngayon that most cars are heavily dependent on their electronic systems for even the most basic functions)

pag hirap ako sa ganyang conditions, say sa toll way, i slow down to the minimum speed and proceed as carefully as i can. dapat din natin ipreserve yung use of the fast lane at baka may dumaan na driver who really needs to speed up and pass people, even under those conditions.

that's why "hazards" should be reserved for use when your vehicle presents a hazard to other motorists (stalled in the middle of the road), and to signal / call attention to your position (baka kailangan mo lighter, wala ka pansindi ng yosi hehe  :-D). driving in low visibility conditions requires a lot more from a driver, but that does not mean to say that you're presenting a hazard to people around you  :-D



btw, i haven't yet seen conditions here that are bad enough to preclude the use of rear fogs, although as part of my vehicle's setup, i do use 55w yellow lens driving lights (wala din ako pambili ng rear fog haha). i guess in the higher regions like sagada or baguio you can find fog thick enough to not allow you to see more than a few meters ahead, but even then you can slow down to a speed that you can reliably react to situations.  :)


what i'd put up there is just my reasoning, even in the US, there're varying rules regarding the use of hazards. mine is simply a more practical way of looking at it. also, during trackdays, hazard lights on a car means the car is on a cool down lap before entering the pit, and is circling the track below racing speeds - even at that, the said car should stay off the racing line to avoid disrupting other drivers trying to take that line.
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« Reply #1187 on: June 18, 2014, 02:50:54 PM »
Agree po ako sa pag-iwas na gamitin yung hazard lights sa low visibility. Siguro kasi ang logic kaya ginagamit ng karamihan ang hazards pag umuulan ng matindi ay dahil alam nilang sila ay nagpopose ng hazard sa mga motorista sa likod. Except dahil dun, lahat naman ay nakahazard, malilito ka lang sa mga position at intentions ng mga driver sa harapan mo. It only causes more confusion and thus slower yet unsafe traffic.

Dapat po talaga i-engage lang ang parking lights - may red sa likod para hindi mabangga sa likod, at white lights naman sa harap para makita ka ng nasa harap mo, as well as ng mga kasalubong mo. Pag may talagang nasiraan, alam mo, at pag may magcchange lane, malinaw kung saan pupunta.

Sana ganito ang maging standard practice para sa bagong henrasyon ng mga nagmamaneho ng mga kotse.
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« Reply #1188 on: June 18, 2014, 04:49:10 PM »
Agree. Hazard lights serve as warning pag nagka-aberya sa daan, emergency vehicles, towing and the likes. Kung minsan kasi may mga sasakyan na walang fog lights sa likod o kaya mahina ang tail lights kaya siguro sila napapagamit ng hazard lights.

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« Reply #1189 on: June 18, 2014, 04:53:38 PM »
Agree. Hazard lights serve as warning pag nagka-aberya sa daan, emergency vehicles, towing and the likes. Kung minsan kasi may mga sasakyan na walang fog lights sa likod o kaya mahina ang tail lights kaya siguro sila napapagamit ng hazard lights.

Tama po, but then again, for sure hindi lahat ng kotse sa daan sira ang tail lights. Kung ang mga naka hazard lang ay yung mga tumirik at mga sira ang tail lights, assuming hindi naman baha, dapat bilang mo sa mga kamay mo ang mga naka hazard for one kilometer ahead.
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« Reply #1190 on: June 18, 2014, 05:33:34 PM »
Tama po, but then again, for sure hindi lahat ng kotse sa daan sira ang tail lights. Kung ang mga naka hazard lang ay yung mga tumirik at mga sira ang tail lights, assuming hindi naman baha, dapat bilang mo sa mga kamay mo ang mga naka hazard for one kilometer ahead.

Sana nga ganito eh. Pero pag naging habit na kasi, nahihirapan na silang baguhin yung nakasanayan. At least dito we can share the do's and dont's.

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« Reply #1191 on: June 18, 2014, 05:44:42 PM »
Sana nga ganito eh. Pero pag naging habit na kasi, nahihirapan na silang baguhin yung nakasanayan. At least dito we can share the do's and dont's.
Sanayin na natin ang mga sarili natin para ang next generation drivers,  tama ang makakasanayan  :)
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« Reply #1192 on: June 18, 2014, 06:55:14 PM »
Sanayin na natin ang mga sarili natin para ang next generation drivers,  tama ang makakasanayan  :)

Right. Eh di ang saya mag-maneho pag lahat nakaka-sunod sa mga do's and dont's. maliit lang ang tyansa na magka-aberya.

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« Reply #1193 on: June 18, 2014, 09:13:18 PM »
Meron kasing de facto standards dito sa atin. Like yung pag flash (pitik) ng light signalling your intention na mauuna ka. International standards is pipitik ka ng ilaw signalling na yung nasa harap mo can go ahead. Magkabaliktad di ba? Same way yung sa hazard lights. De facto standards dito sa atin yun like backing up at sa less visibility road condition.

Most of us eh gustong maimplement yung international standards. Pero sa karamihan, ang sinusunod pa rin ay yung de facto or nakasanayan na standards dito sa atin. Paano naman yung dadayo dito? Well, when your in Rome (or in our case, in the Philippines) .... you know the drill.


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« Reply #1194 on: June 18, 2014, 10:22:05 PM »
Meron kasing de facto standards dito sa atin. Like yung pag flash (pitik) ng light signalling your intention na mauuna ka. International standards is pipitik ka ng ilaw signalling na yung nasa harap mo can go ahead. Magkabaliktad di ba? Same way yung sa hazard lights. De facto standards dito sa atin yun like backing up at sa less visibility road condition.

Most of us eh gustong maimplement yung international standards. Pero sa karamihan, ang sinusunod pa rin ay yung de facto or nakasanayan na standards dito sa atin. Paano naman yung dadayo dito? Well, when your in Rome (or in our case, in the Philippines) .... you know the drill.

+1

Ganyan nga dito sa atin. Sa subic naman kung sino mauna sa intersection siya una.

About sa headlights may mga pasaway na jeep walang ilaw sa gabi major road pa binabagtas.. nagtitipid sa baterya o naghahanap ng mabibiktima?

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« Reply #1195 on: June 19, 2014, 01:00:20 AM »
Meron kasing de facto standards dito sa atin. Like yung pag flash (pitik) ng light signalling your intention na mauuna ka. International standards is pipitik ka ng ilaw signalling na yung nasa harap mo can go ahead. Magkabaliktad di ba? Same way yung sa hazard lights. De facto standards dito sa atin yun like backing up at sa less visibility road condition.

Most of us eh gustong maimplement yung international standards. Pero sa karamihan, ang sinusunod pa rin ay yung de facto or nakasanayan na standards dito sa atin. Paano naman yung dadayo dito? Well, when your in Rome (or in our case, in the Philippines) .... you know the drill.


papi di ko masyado nagets yung sa pag pitik ng ilaw, pero oo nga nakasanayan natin dito na pag pipitik ka ng ilaw sa nasa unahan mo e gusto mong umuna. i was told previously though that when you flick the highs on a vehicle ahead of you, it's like saying you're moving too slowly please speed up. dito kasi satin baliktaran lahat ng bagay - ang mabagal nasa kaliwa, ang tao nag papass sa kanan kung san blindspot, ang labo lang. >> tama ba pagkaintindi ko bro qroon?  :-D

i for one wish na sumunod ang kapwa motorista sa daan in accordance to internationally recognized rules, kaso tama ka hindi yan masusunod dito kasi unang una mga tao (the good lot of us) hindi alam ang proper driving etiquette / manners. mga boss naming kano bibihira natututo magdrive dito sa pinas, magulo daw at walang order, and that's true - if we really look at it, barumbado mag drive ang pinoy, wala sa lugar madalas at kung ano maisip ay siyang gagawin.


backing up by itself i don't see why we should use hazards, lalo kung open space at kung nasa parking area ka. pero kung say nakapark ka sa jolibee then ilalabas mo oto mo sa kalye paatras, tapos sa kalye mismo ang sampa ng oto i can see why you need to use it para maalert mga oncoming vehicles na umaatras ka into the road and into the direction of oncoming traffic.



+1

Ganyan nga dito sa atin. Sa subic naman kung sino mauna sa intersection siya una.

About sa headlights may mga pasaway na jeep walang ilaw sa gabi major road pa binabagtas.. nagtitipid sa baterya o naghahanap ng mabibiktima?

sarap banggain ng truck  :eek:


yan naman ang tamang etiquette regarding intersections, first come first pass. kaso sa tin e kung sino matibay ang loob, siya ang uuna haha kaya nagkakabangaan sa intersection!  :eek:


alam ko bro kaya hindi nag heheadlight ang jeep sa gabi kasi masisilaw tao at di makikita yung karatula ng ruta nila hehe  ano naman titipirin sa kuryente ng mga yun e wala naman silang electrical accessories apart from maybe radio... plus di naman spark ignition gamit ng diesel  :lol:
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« Reply #1196 on: June 19, 2014, 01:04:22 AM »
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« Reply #1197 on: June 19, 2014, 02:07:23 AM »

papi di ko masyado nagets yung sa pag pitik ng ilaw, pero oo nga nakasanayan natin dito na pag pipitik ka ng ilaw sa nasa unahan mo e gusto mong umuna. i was told previously though that when you flick the highs on a vehicle ahead of you, it's like saying you're moving too slowly please speed up. dito kasi satin baliktaran lahat ng bagay - ang mabagal nasa kaliwa, ang tao nag papass sa kanan kung san blindspot, ang labo lang. >> tama ba pagkaintindi ko bro qroon?  :-D

Yun yung pag dalawa kayo na papasok sa isang kanto. Dito sa atin, pag pumitik ng ilaw yung A, ibig sabihin mauuna sya. If I understand it correctly, internationally, pipitik ng ilaw ang B na ibig sabihin pinauuna nya si A.


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A________A__]\____.         __/[__B________B
|________|'    _ _:      :_ _    '|________|
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« Reply #1198 on: June 19, 2014, 02:24:46 AM »
^ ah gets ko na papi, kasi naisip ko e dalawang sasakyan na parehong tinatahak na daan like A is in front of B tapos si B pipitik para mauna si A  :-D


pag ako nasa ganyan situation, i kill my headlights sabay kaway sa kabilang oto!  :eek:
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« Reply #1199 on: June 19, 2014, 07:44:10 AM »

papi di ko masyado nagets yung sa pag pitik ng ilaw, pero oo nga nakasanayan natin dito na pag pipitik ka ng ilaw sa nasa unahan mo e gusto mong umuna. i was told previously though that when you flick the highs on a vehicle ahead of you, it's like saying you're moving too slowly please speed up. dito kasi satin baliktaran lahat ng bagay - ang mabagal nasa kaliwa, ang tao nag papass sa kanan kung san blindspot, ang labo lang. >> tama ba pagkaintindi ko bro qroon?  :-D

i for one wish na sumunod ang kapwa motorista sa daan in accordance to internationally recognized rules, kaso tama ka hindi yan masusunod dito kasi unang una mga tao (the good lot of us) hindi alam ang proper driving etiquette / manners. mga boss naming kano bibihira natututo magdrive dito sa pinas, magulo daw at walang order, and that's true - if we really look at it, barumbado mag drive ang pinoy, wala sa lugar madalas at kung ano maisip ay siyang gagawin.


backing up by itself i don't see why we should use hazards, lalo kung open space at kung nasa parking area ka. pero kung say nakapark ka sa jolibee then ilalabas mo oto mo sa kalye paatras, tapos sa kalye mismo ang sampa ng oto i can see why you need to use it para maalert mga oncoming vehicles na umaatras ka into the road and into the direction of oncoming traffic.




yan naman ang tamang etiquette regarding intersections, first come first pass. kaso sa tin e kung sino matibay ang loob, siya ang uuna haha kaya nagkakabangaan sa intersection!  :eek:


alam ko bro kaya hindi nag heheadlight ang jeep sa gabi kasi masisilaw tao at di makikita yung karatula ng ruta nila hehe  ano naman titipirin sa kuryente ng mga yun e wala naman silang electrical accessories apart from maybe radio... plus di naman spark ignition gamit ng diesel  :lol:

oo buti sana kung may ilaw sa loob para makita route signage's nila.. walang wala e may dala pang pasahero yan :lol:
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