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Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: col_rukie on March 25, 2006, 12:04:07 PM
tulong mga bro...any tips o kaya excercise para maging pulido tunog...i mean para maging smooth ang transition nung tunog from a normal note tp pinch harmonics...thanks
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: kevlahnota on March 25, 2006, 12:39:25 PM
tip lang bro, hold your pick as close to the tip then pag mag haharmonic ka na, slightly angle your picking na tatama sa thumbs mo. dapat slight lang para tumunog ng maayos then practise it a lot. it will come naturally pag na perfect mo na yun. also find the spot kung saan mas madali mag harmonic. gud luck.
Title: sir
Post by: fade2black0520 on March 25, 2006, 12:47:54 PM
Quote from: kevlahnota
tip lang bro, hold your pick as close to the tip then pag mag haharmonic ka na, slightly angle your picking na tatama sa thumbs mo. dapat slight lang para tumunog ng maayos then practise it a lot. it will come naturally pag na perfect mo na yun. also find the spot kung saan mas madali mag harmonic. gud luck.


sir, nagmamatter po ba ang thickness ng pick in practicing pinch harmonics??? ? i use jim dunlop 1.14mm... :?
Title: Re: sir
Post by: Phil on March 25, 2006, 12:51:32 PM
Quote from: fade2black0520
Quote from: kevlahnota
tip lang bro, hold your pick as close to the tip then pag mag haharmonic ka na, slightly angle your picking na tatama sa thumbs mo. dapat slight lang para tumunog ng maayos then practise it a lot. it will come naturally pag na perfect mo na yun. also find the spot kung saan mas madali mag harmonic. gud luck.


sir, nagmamatter po ba ang thickness ng pick in practicing pinch harmonics??? ? i use jim dunlop 1.14mm... :?
in my experience the thicker the better.
Title: Re: sir
Post by: stringman on March 25, 2006, 12:57:01 PM
Quote from: Phil
Quote from: fade2black0520
Quote from: kevlahnota
tip lang bro, hold your pick as close to the tip then pag mag haharmonic ka na, slightly angle your picking na tatama sa thumbs mo. dapat slight lang para tumunog ng maayos then practise it a lot. it will come naturally pag na perfect mo na yun. also find the spot kung saan mas madali mag harmonic. gud luck.


sir, nagmamatter po ba ang thickness ng pick in practicing pinch harmonics??? ? i use jim dunlop 1.14mm... :?
in my experience the thicker the better.


Tama si Phil para mas may attack sa string.
Title: 111
Post by: col_rukie on March 25, 2006, 05:32:31 PM
sir kevlahnota
 
may epecto ba kung gaano kalakas ung pg strike mo ng pick?thanks ha cge praktis na to!!!
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: cool2ny on March 25, 2006, 05:40:41 PM
practice mo yung tamang hawak sa pick na komportable ka(syempre kailangan alam mo yung concept ng pinch harmonic)

practice mo na dapat controlado mo yung pinch harmonics, yung hindi chambahan, kailangan controlado mo kung kelan mo gusto meron, gets?

practice mo na mapatunog mo sila ng malinis (usually sa mga fret na madaling tumunog yung natural harmonics o harmonics, dun din madali mag pinch harmonics, frets 5, 7, 12)


tapos, practice lang ng practice  :D
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: kevlahnota on March 25, 2006, 06:46:32 PM
pag malakas ang pick attack mas malakas ang pag ring nung harmonics.
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on March 25, 2006, 08:15:04 PM
Addition lang sa tips above...
dont forget, high output bridge pickup para talagang matunog, some compression and plenty of gain will also help.

check out Zakk Wylde's playing, kahit na sa mga bass strings super solid yung pinch harmonics nya...super high output yung pups ng guitars nya(EMG 81 n 85).

pero siempre, yung technique is the most important part.
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: Poundcake on March 25, 2006, 08:21:28 PM
right, plus learn to locate the "sweet spots" when you're attacking the string. for example, kung gusto mong mag-pinch harmonic na tunog harp harmonic (12 frets higher) sa 14th fret using a 22-fret guitar, try "extending" the fretboard by estimating where the 26th fret is  then dun ka mag-pinch harmonic. another way to perform it is like what Eric Johnson did on "SRV" sa solo part. iba yung method but same result :)
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: bembang_jones on March 25, 2006, 09:41:16 PM
when practicing that dapat relax lang wag panggigigilan kasi baka maputol ang string...tsaka sabi nga kanina use bridge pickup and rev up the gain...
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: sonnyrayvaughn on March 25, 2006, 11:47:01 PM
VenusIsle beat me to it... Sweet Spot!! look for it sa guitar mo, it varies from guitar to guitar!
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: SDMF on March 26, 2006, 08:55:01 AM
bros,

Does having an arched top helps in bringing out these harmonics, as compared to a flat top?

I noticed that I could easily make my guitar squeal especially on the lower strings of my guitar with arched top...
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: Phil on March 26, 2006, 11:57:18 AM
what do you mean arch top?

I use thick picks(dunlop Jazz III black and red)

..I think it's just technique...kung maperfect mo kahit sa clean channel makuha mo....practice.
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: SDMF on March 26, 2006, 12:31:41 PM
Quote from: Phil
what do you mean arch top?

I use thick picks(dunlop Jazz III black and red)

..I think it's just technique...kung maperfect mo kahit sa clean channel makuha mo....practice.



like tops of les pauls...vs strats w/ flat tops..
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: Phil on March 26, 2006, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: SDMF
Quote from: Phil
what do you mean arch top?

I use thick picks(dunlop Jazz III black and red)

..I think it's just technique...kung maperfect mo kahit sa clean channel makuha mo....practice.



like tops of les pauls...vs strats w/ flat tops..
my Ibanez squeals easily ...same as a les paul style....I think it's just the technique....you know what?..I think it's the pickups too....if you have the technique down...then it would really help if you have a HB or a really loud pick up....thats from my experience.
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: Poundcake on March 26, 2006, 07:56:27 PM
Quote from: Phil
Quote from: SDMF
Quote from: Phil
what do you mean arch top?

I use thick picks(dunlop Jazz III black and red)

..I think it's just technique...kung maperfect mo kahit sa clean channel makuha mo....practice.



like tops of les pauls...vs strats w/ flat tops..
my Ibanez squeals easily ...same as a les paul style....I think it's just the technique....you know what?..I think it's the pickups too....if you have the technique down...then it would really help if you have a HB or a really loud pick up....thats from my experience.


true. less ang harmonics na lumalabas out of my Strat as compared to my other humbucker-equipped guitars. :)
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: namida on March 26, 2006, 09:50:58 PM
Hmm let me see, heres how it works with me:

-Do not use whimpy picks, the harder the better, Billy Gibbons I think uses Mexican peso (or was it Brian may?)

-A slightly angled attack on your pinch execution will yield a higher possibility of bringing out the desired effect, you'll hear the string slapping your skin if it fails :D

-Add vibrato :D

Not much to it in my experience, but start out slow and then try incorporating it to the licks you know :)

Listen to stuff by ZZ Top, Zakk Wylde, Paul Gilbert, and whole else? uhmm Skid Row :)
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: SDMF on March 27, 2006, 02:50:40 AM
the reason i asked if having an archtop guitar vs flat top will make a difference in getting more squealing notes, is that I noticed in my les paul-like guitar, i can make em...weee! waaa! wuuuu! wooo!..there more squeling notes on it. :lol:

I'd flip the bridge pickup and vary my pick attack, make squeals near the bridge pu, middle,  down to the neck pickup area...and consistent sya..With my ibby..I can make it easily squeal near the bridge, middle,  but as i go down near the neck pu area, nde ganun ka-defined ung squeal...both on hi-gain settings naman... :?

BTW, i love those squeals i get near the neck pu.. 8)
I have this riff wherein my right hand wud jump back & forth for those notes, sarap.
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: bembang_jones on March 27, 2006, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: Phil
Quote from: SDMF
Quote from: Phil
what do you mean arch top?

I use thick picks(dunlop Jazz III black and red)

..I think it's just technique...kung maperfect mo kahit sa clean channel makuha mo....practice.



like tops of les pauls...vs strats w/ flat tops..
my Ibanez squeals easily ...same as a les paul style....I think it's just the technique....you know what?..I think it's the pickups too....if you have the technique down...then it would really help if you have a HB or a really loud pick up....thats from my experience.


yep yep agree to that mas madali magpalabas ng pinch harmonics sa ibby based on my observation kahit sa bass string lalabas...
Title: bros
Post by: col_rukie on March 28, 2006, 06:12:53 PM
maraming salamt po sa mag reply...prACTICE NA TO
Title: Re: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: shadowm00n on March 30, 2006, 02:39:23 AM
Quote from: col_rukie
tulong mga bro...any tips o kaya excercise para maging pulido tunog...i mean para maging smooth ang transition nung tunog from a normal note tp pinch harmonics...thanks


eto sakin lang ha. im using ordinary picks before pero nahihirapan ako. then nakabili ako sa states ng tortex sharps yung blue(commonly maroon and green). mas maganda yun attack nya for a smooth or agressive p.h. o kaya sir, try mo nlang lihahin yung dulo para medyo tumulis. san ba area mo? pwede kitang bigyan para ma try mo  8)
Title: ...
Post by: col_rukie on March 30, 2006, 06:55:49 AM
sir totoo b un...bait ah...bulacan ako sir...ahm meron b nito sa pinas...b aka try ko na lang lihain mga pics ko...di ko alam na may effect pala un
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: kawal on March 30, 2006, 07:29:09 AM

i agree sa sinabi ni VenusIsle_5150. siguraduhin mo na tama ang location ng AH mo. kahit anung pluck mo ng maganda, kahit gaano ka-synchronized ang timing ng kanan at kaliwang kamay mo, kung mali ang location ng pinch mo, hindi magha-harmonics yun. kung AH na 1-octave higher, yun yung kalahati ng distance mula sa fret hanggang sa bridge. dun ka magpi-pinch.
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: kanshooter on March 30, 2006, 12:54:03 PM
you can attain different tones/sounds/pitch of your pinch harmonic (even in one fret position of your left hand) - by simply varying the position of attack of your right hand... attacking the strings near the bridge and attacking the strings near the neck will produce different sound without changing the position of your left hand.

I love the pinch harmonic sound of the 6th string on the 2nd fret (doing it with a slight bend) - ala Zakk Wylde....(scream, scream, scream)
Title: tulong sa pinch harmonics
Post by: Poundcake on March 30, 2006, 04:49:49 PM
Quote from: kanshooter
you can attain different tones/sounds/pitch of your pinch harmonic (even in one fret position of your left hand) - by simply varying the position of attack of your right hand... attacking the strings near the bridge and attacking the strings near the neck will produce different sound without changing the position of your left hand.


+10 listen to glam rock tunes hehe