i completely agree with Muzik... i know juven also and christian, when i was still with ppitch they hang out in store everyday naging staff ko nga si xtian e. i have seen Juven play almost on a daily basis doing his stuff at my store, yeah the dude can burn frettboards and has a lot of flashy licks. but to me it doesn fit well with rocksteddy. yes Taste is the issue, skill? we already seen what hes capable of. if he is going to take this constructively all he needs to work on is how to put all his magic into the right places at the right time. (maturity also includes controling your adrenalin rush / sort of not betting all your money in one race) Music doesnt just involve active parts whithin a song context... space is also involved thus the term less is more. then again the benchmark in commercial music is how popular one is and how much record he sold, and how many paid gigs is on his calendar (well professionaly i guess and from the general listening public's point of view). in this regard Juven (and the whole band) is having a blast. and that can be a much better feeling than having the perfect vibrato or the best tone in the world. The Bottomline is ... Music is subjective no one can please everyone. what a cliche huh? but true