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« Reply #950 on: January 24, 2018, 10:57:33 AM »
oh, not the GEN16 ha! I just meant the low volume cymbals. are you looking to trigger the cymbals?

possibly but I had a different plan.
Originally, balak ko kumuha ng new beat or kahit arborea na hats since my extra condenser mic pa ko sa bahay. pero naisip ko yung CROSS TALK. olats yun kasi super lakas ng tunog ng mga rubber pads ng alesis
mappick up sya ng mic at lalo lang siguro ako mahihirapan mag mix.

I saw some vids about the l8's the edrum forum sa fb and kay sam (subcapular/udub) and medjo ok naman sya. so baka dun na nga ko mag stick. sakto may trade in madness si jb.


-edit - gen16 pala gamit nya.
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« Reply #951 on: January 24, 2018, 11:07:33 AM »
possibly but I had a different plan.
Originally, balak ko kumuha ng new beat or kahit arborea na hats since my extra condenser mic pa ko sa bahay. pero naisip ko yung CROSS TALK. olats yun kasi super lakas ng tunog ng mga rubber pads ng alesis
mappick up sya ng mic at lalo lang siguro ako mahihirapan mag mix.

I saw some vids about the l8's the edrum forum sa fb and kay sam (subcapular/udub) and medjo ok naman sya. so baka dun na nga ko mag stick. sakto may trade in madness si jb.


-edit - gen16 pala gamit nya.

ang sama kasi ng stock sounds ng Gen16 :( but hey, do let us know how your experiment turns out man!
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #952 on: January 24, 2018, 11:12:24 AM »
ang sama kasi ng stock sounds ng Gen16 :( but hey, do let us know how your experiment turns out man!

siguro kung pwedeng ikabit yung dsp ng gen 16 sa alesis module tapos imidi out na lang goind to the dm7x module pwede pa.
pero i doubt the compatability ng dsp.

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« Reply #953 on: January 26, 2018, 09:19:09 AM »
Hi mga braders pibagiisipan ko kasi na ibenta na yung acoustic drum at bumili na ng edrums. Plano ko gamitin pag recording na din gamit ang superior druommer 3.
Sa budget na 40k  to 50k, ano yung mga  top contenders? Sinisipat ko sa ngayon yung alesis crimson. At plano ko din kasi mag expand ng cymbals. Ang setup ko kasi sa acoustic drum ay hhihat,2 crashtes, ride at 1 china. Kung magexpand ako saan ako pwede bumili at magkano prices ng cymbal pad? Pasensya na nahihirrapan kasi ako maghanap ng mga cymbal pad sa google na available locally.

Daghdag ko din. Madalas ang gamit ko ng fast double bass so kaylangan ko yung
Responsive yung kick  pad sa mabilis na strokes.
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« Reply #954 on: January 26, 2018, 09:40:54 AM »
Not sure kung magkano si crimson, pero kung di  mo habol yung module sounds, bili ka na lang kahit mga dm6 then alesis io para ma expand mo. Its hard to find good pads dito but last resort are the ringway cymbal pads.

Setup ko now is, alesis dm7x. 3 toms, 2 splashes, 2 crashes, ride, at 1 china, 1 stack. Yung splash at stack sa rim ng toms 123 naka program. Nagpapagawa pa lang kasi  ako ng cable splitter, then pag ok yung kinalabasan, tska ko na bibilhin yung cymbal pads.


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« Reply #955 on: January 26, 2018, 09:56:47 AM »
Not sure kung magkano si crimson, pero kung di  mo habol yung module sounds, bili ka na lang kahit mga dm6 then alesis io para ma expand mo. Its hard to find good pads dito but last resort are the ringway cymbal pads.

Setup ko now is, alesis dm7x. 3 toms, 2 splashes, 2 crashes, ride, at 1 china, 1 stack. Yung splash at stack sa rim ng toms 123 naka program. Nagpapagawa pa lang kasi  ako ng cable splitter, then pag ok yung kinalabasan, tska ko na bibilhin yung cymbal pads.

salamat sa suggestion. Pero habol ko din kasi yung "feel" ng acoustic drums kaya nagbabakasakali ako na
Kung mesh pads e mas maging okay. Nakita kop sa fb nagbebenta around 45 or47k ata yung crimson mesh

Kaylangan ko din ng pang double pedal. Nakita ko  kasi sa ibang reviews nung mga alesis forge at yung iba na kaprice nya e hindi  responsive yung kick pad. Kaya inisip ko yung mga edrums na nasa .league na ng crimson mesh

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« Reply #956 on: January 26, 2018, 10:14:13 AM »
salamat sa suggestion. Pero habol ko din kasi yung "feel" ng acoustic drums kaya nagbabakasakali ako na
Kung mesh pads e mas maging okay. Nakita kop sa fb nagbebenta around 45 or47k ata yung crimson mesh

Kaylangan ko din ng pang double pedal. Nakita ko  kasi sa ibang reviews nung mga alesis forge at yung iba na kaprice nya e hindi  responsive yung kick pad. Kaya inisip ko yung mga edrums na nasa .league na ng crimson mesh

may dm8 ako nakita dito sa classifieds, oks yun. Kung responsiveness naman. Before I had some delays sa dm7x ko using the module. But with proper curving sa sd2, naging ok na naman sya.

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« Reply #957 on: January 26, 2018, 12:02:57 PM »
may dm8 ako nakita dito sa classifieds, oks yun. Kung responsiveness naman. Before I had some delays sa dm7x ko using the module. But with proper curving sa sd2, naging ok na naman sya.

ah okay so yung control sa sensitivity sa plugins na hindi na masyado sa module?
So kahit yung mga alesis forge kit possible na maging responsive yung kick nya for double pedal basta mag tweak lang ako sa superior drummer? Or any edrums possible na maging responsive yung kick basta mag tweak lang sa plugins?
At ano pa kaya suggestion nyo na possible contender ng alesis crimson from other brands like medeli, kat or 2nd hand roland/yamaha? Feeling ko kasi hahanapin ng kamay ko yung feel nung acoustic drums
Okay na kaya yung mesh pads para makuha ko yung "feel" na yun?

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« Reply #958 on: January 26, 2018, 12:27:37 PM »
The module will serve as a connector na lang. Overall control will be on the software. Curves, sensitivity etc. So kahit anong edrum, nagiging  ok yung tunog basta  pagkaka setup ng software pero  sa feel at setup ng ekit nagkakatalo.


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« Reply #959 on: January 26, 2018, 12:47:01 PM »
The module will serve as a connector na lang. Overall control will be on the software. Curves, sensitivity etc. So kahit anong edrum, nagiging  ok yung tunog basta  pagkaka setup ng software pero  sa feel at setup ng ekit nagkakatalo.



+1.  it all boils down kung gaano ka intense yung pagtweak mo sa software. feel lang ang ibibigay ni ekit. si module midi controller nalang.
hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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« Reply #960 on: January 26, 2018, 08:09:28 PM »
+1.  it all boils down kung gaano ka intense yung pagtweak mo sa software. feel lang ang ibibigay ni ekit. si module midi controller nalang.

gusto ko yung intese na pag tweak. haha

pero seryoso. nag 1 year na yung kit ko, ok na ako sa feel at sensitivity lalo na sa ghost notes. pero hanggang ngayon pabago-bago pa rin yung way nang pag mimix.
bumili ako dati ng fab filter plug ins, sulit naman. pero naubos talaga pera ko sa waves pero sulit talaga yung mga plug ins.

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« Reply #961 on: January 26, 2018, 08:14:02 PM »
ah okay so yung control sa sensitivity sa plugins na hindi na masyado sa module?
So kahit yung mga alesis forge kit possible na maging responsive yung kick nya for double pedal basta mag tweak lang ako sa superior drummer? Or any edrums possible na maging responsive yung kick basta mag tweak lang sa plugins?
At ano pa kaya suggestion nyo na possible contender ng alesis crimson from other brands like medeli, kat or 2nd hand roland/yamaha? Feeling ko kasi hahanapin ng kamay ko yung feel nung acoustic drums
Okay na kaya yung mesh pads para makuha ko yung "feel" na yun?

yung "feeling" acoustic is actually how the module generates sounds as how you perceive it should sound. it doesnt matter if its mesh or rubber at least for me. sa roland td4 (with just stock sounds from the module) ko dati nakuha ko yung feel na yun by really just adjusting the volume of the pad, sensitivity and a little crosstalk. pero inabot ako 1 month halos for 1 kit by playing it and tweaking everyday.

then i plugged the module via midi to ezdrummer, i did not change the settings on my td4 module, lahat ng tweaks ginawa ko sa ezdrummer to get the same feel.

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« Reply #962 on: January 27, 2018, 03:28:43 AM »
Ah ayos. Sige consider ko yung mga rubber pads since mukang mas durable sila. Hanap na lang ako ng mga edrums na may 3 zone na cymbals pang ride.

tms parin ba may hawak sa medeli?

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« Reply #963 on: January 27, 2018, 08:28:59 AM »
Ah ayos. Sige consider ko yung mga rubber pads since mukang mas durable sila. Hanap na lang ako ng mga edrums na may 3 zone na cymbals pang ride.

tms parin ba may hawak sa medeli?

yes chief, sa kanila pa rin.

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« Reply #964 on: January 27, 2018, 10:44:54 AM »
Ayos pagisipan ko muna mabuti kung anong edrums bago ko bitawan ang acoustic drums ko. Salamat ng madami

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« Reply #965 on: February 13, 2018, 08:38:38 PM »
Help mga master.. my brother has a TD11K and we play in our little studio at home dedicated for making youtube videos.
Zoom R24 recorder then reaper ang DAW.
Headphones lang monitors namen through a Behringer headphones amp.
Our dilemma is stereo output lang yun drums into the R24 which doesn't give flexibility sa final mixing and I was thinking kung pwede connected sa laptop or ipad as MIDI controller yun drums while connected din yun stereo outputs sa R24.


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« Reply #966 on: February 13, 2018, 09:27:18 PM »
Help mga master.. my brother has a TD11K and we play in our little studio at home dedicated for making youtube videos.
Zoom R24 recorder then reaper ang DAW.
Headphones lang monitors namen through a Behringer headphones amp.
Our dilemma is stereo output lang yun drums into the R24 which doesn't give flexibility sa final mixing and I was thinking kung pwede connected sa laptop or ipad as MIDI controller yun drums while connected din yun stereo outputs sa R24.

you can easily connect the kit via usb/midi cable. Then hanap  kana lang ng drum software like
EZ DRUMMER or whatever. Then configure sa  daw para multi out.


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« Reply #967 on: February 13, 2018, 09:38:38 PM »
you can easily connect the kit via usb/midi cable. Then hanap  kana lang ng drum software like
EZ DRUMMER or whatever. Then configure sa  daw para multi out.

Magwowork ba sya na nagfifeed pa din stereo output sa zoom r24 kahit na connected as midi controller or either lang pwede at a time


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« Reply #968 on: February 14, 2018, 07:24:33 AM »
Magwowork ba sya na nagfifeed pa din stereo output sa zoom r24 kahit na connected as midi controller or either lang pwede at a time


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hindi na, and no need to get the modules sound kung may software kana.

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« Reply #969 on: February 17, 2018, 03:29:04 PM »
hindi na, and no need to get the modules sound kung may software kana.

So di pwede sabay? Kasi we record our cover videos so for monitoring purposes kelangan pa din yun module sound fed through the Zoom R24.

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« Reply #970 on: February 18, 2018, 08:11:01 AM »
Ok, so if your goal is to capture the tracks individually you need to use a drum vst becase your edrum has stereo out only.
Now kung may software kana, you can use the r34 as an audio out from your laptop so that youd be able to hear everything.

Again, if you want to record multitrack you wont be able to use your modules stock sound.

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« Reply #971 on: February 19, 2018, 08:06:34 PM »
pwede mo gamitin for monitoring yung stereo out ng module mo para walang latency. at pwede mo rin irecord yung stereo out.

you really dont need to use drum vsts while tracking unless gusto mo marinig yung tunog na yun. just record your midi performance then run it through the drum vst during mixing and the vst will allow you to generate the drum multitracks if you select separate outputs. at least ang superior drummer ganun, kapag inadd mo sya as virtual instrument, tatanungin ka kung stereo out lang kailangan mo o separate tracks.

kung gusto mo naman marinig yung vst while tracking, make sure lang na naka enable yung record monitoring sa mga track na inassign mo sa drums. then adjust your zoom's buffer to the lowest til you dont hear any latency

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« Reply #972 on: February 20, 2018, 12:10:58 PM »
^ Hindi namen kelangan marinig yung VST sounds habang nag rerecord, kelangan lang module sounds kasi live recording yun dating for the video.
While mixing sa Reaper instead na yun stereo sound ang gamitin ko na tracks for the drums, gamitin ko yun MIDI with VST sana para mas flexible kasi separate tracks.
If I understood it correctly, pwede sya simultaneously nagrerecord through stereo out and flash drive for the MIDI, tama ba?

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« Reply #973 on: February 20, 2018, 12:43:04 PM »
^ Hindi namen kelangan marinig yung VST sounds habang nag rerecord, kelangan lang module sounds kasi live recording yun dating for the video.
While mixing sa Reaper instead na yun stereo sound ang gamitin ko na tracks for the drums, gamitin ko yun MIDI with VST sana para mas flexible kasi separate tracks.
If I understood it correctly, pwede sya simultaneously nagrerecord through stereo out and flash drive for the MIDI, tama ba?


suggested setup from what you mentioned above.

ekit midi out connected to laptop to enable multi track recording using vst (input monitoring off so you wont hear anything)
ekit module stereo out connected to zoom to hear the modules sound.


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« Reply #974 on: February 20, 2018, 12:49:21 PM »

suggested setup from what you mentioned above.

ekit midi out connected to laptop to enable multi track recording using vst (input monitoring off so you wont hear anything)
ekit module stereo out connected to zoom to hear the modules sound.

Kelangan ko kasi bumili ng mahabang USB cable para sa ganitong setup, at least 3m siguro yung haba pero flash drive madami ako sa bahay. may difference ba sa quality yun MIDI recorded sa laptop vs sa flash drive?