True Acoustic Tone

[dayuhan]

wouldn't lights be okay on a jumbo because it will still have great volume and a full tone because of its body construction? 

Well... in truth, she's been wearing D'Addario lights and I don't really have any complaints about the tone.  I just feel like I can get it fuller and bigger with the Pearse mediums... there will be some playability tradeoff of course.  It's kind of an experiment, always something different to try.

[deltaslim]

thanks!  i certainly hope so because i don't have the dough yet to get a new one.   


wouldn't lights be okay on a jumbo because it will still have great volume and a full tone because of its body construction?  yes it would be cool to have a few more guitars at your disposal. 


aren't we all? 

it's a compromise but in principle you need higher tension in order to vibrate bigger wood/guitar.  lighter strings might not vibrate the neck and top enough for optimum volume or tone.  this is also why a parlor size or lightly braced guitars ask for lighter strings.

[dayuhan]

You mean my fat-bottomed honey needs a lotta vibrator to make her sing??

[maxi_musikero]

You mean my fat-bottomed honey needs a lotta vibrator to make her sing??

 

[maxi_musikero]

sir joric, what are the 3 western K & K suction caps and how are they terminated/connected to the jack?  are there any electronic circuits or components?

[deltaslim]

sir joric, what are the 3 western K & K suction caps and how are they terminated/connected to the jack?  are there any electronic circuits or components?

they're not suction cups.  the transducer discs are thin and attach to the bridge plate via super glue. the whole thing looks like this inside the guitar.


i'm not sure if they've sticked any components in the jack.

[dantuts]

@deltaslim..

dalhin mo F-20 mo sa 24th ah.. 

tska yung shadow ano na balak mo ?  , pa test...

[deltaslim]

@deltaslim..

dalhin mo F-20 mo sa 24th ah.. 

tska yung shadow ano na balak mo ?  , pa test...

copy, bro!

teka, so confirmed na kayo?!  PM me.

[dantuts]

ygpm 

[maxi_musikero]

they're not suction cups.  the transducer discs are thin and attach to the bridge plate via super glue. the whole thing looks like this inside the guitar.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417gJEJtmLL._SL500_AA280_.jpg

i'm not sure if they've sticked any components in the jack.

i thought they were like suction cups..is its other end an endpin preamp?

[deltaslim]

i thought they were like suction cups..is its other end an endpin preamp?

seems like a simple coupling job from transducer to output jack/endpin to me but i've been known to be wrong many times... 

[af_villaruel]

i thought they were like suction cups..is its other end an endpin preamp?

to my knowledge, joric is correct. the k&k is a passive transducer pickup. although reviews would reveal it yields a pretty hot output. i wouldn't know as of the moment... although i would by the end of the month.

[maxi_musikero]

seems like a simple coupling job from transducer to output jack/endpin to me but i've been known to be wrong many times... 

you're right...it's simply a transducer to output jack/endpin connection.  thanks sir joric! 

[maxi_musikero]

to my knowledge, joric is correct. the k&k is a passive transducer pickup. although reviews would reveal it yields a pretty hot output. i wouldn't know as of the moment... although i would by the end of the month.

nax!  good luck bro!  yan yung ilalagay mo sa Egima mo?

[af_villaruel]

nax!  good luck bro!  yan yung ilalagay mo sa Egima mo?

hehehe. yep!

[in_the_tent]

Hmm.. Gusto ko rin sanang matuloy ang acouctic EB. para maeducate naman ako about true acoustic tone. Taga saan po ba kayo mga sir?
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[dayuhan]

Pardon me if this has already been discussed somewhere in the 61 pages here, but thread archaeology isn't my strongest skill.  I'm just curious... I mean, we all talk about guitars a lot, but I'm wondering what y'all actually play?  So a question... next time you pick up your guitar just for fun, what's likely to come out?

For me...

Probably JJ Cale's Drifter's Life, which I don't ever get tired of, as good an acoustic fingerpickin' thing as anyone ever wrote.

Working on solo acoustic versions of a couple of Hendrix standards, Hey Joe and The Wind Cries Mary, just for fun.  Coming along...

Been messing a lot with a Richard Thompson song called I Misunderstood... had a bit of a revelation when I looked on YouTube and realized that RT plays it with a capo on the 2nd fret.  Like "you mean (duh) I don't have to play it in C#m??"

Couple of things that have been on my table forever, an old country coal miner song by Billy Edd Wheeler called Coal Tattoo, and Doc Watson's Deep River Blues, which I may never get quite right but I'll never stop trying!

Just starting to mess with a Dave Matthews song, Two Step, which I really like.  May take a while, but I'm not in a hurry, not like anyone's listening!

[deltaslim]

I'm just curious... I mean, we all talk about guitars a lot, but I'm wondering what y'all actually play? 

This is what I play...
http://youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CE2B9431F88998ED

[maxi_musikero]

@dayuhan,

i will search these songs and download them so that i would know what you are talking about.  i'm also into fingerpicking, the likes of James Taylor and even some Jim Croce.  but i'm more into the pop songs now.

@delta,

great covers!  blues na blues.  i like Glory of Love.  Morris yung gamit mo no?

[strummer]

when i pick up my acoustic, i just pluck my way to... nothingness.  . i dont have particular songs in mind. just let the fingers move. i start with Em, and end up doing the key of G. heheh. G Em C D couldnt be that bad. hahah

i just usually do it to keep my mind blank.

OT. hahah.

To the topic... i hope i could have my fernando acoustic repaired soon. the nut broke and i hope to have it hospitalized. heheh. hope to upload some pics of my beloved acoustic soon... <btw "beloved" because this is from my mom that's why. hahah. i like the sound though. it's big. heheh>

[deltaslim]

@dayuhan,

i will search these songs and download them so that i would know what you are talking about.  i'm also into fingerpicking, the likes of James Taylor and even some Jim Croce.  but i'm more into the pop songs now.

@delta,

great covers!  blues na blues.  i like Glory of Love.  Morris yung gamit mo no?

thanks. yes, the more recent ones are with the Morris.

interestingly enough, Glory of Love is a pop song!  i just did my own take on Big Bill Broonzy's bluesified version of it.

[dayuhan]

Some nice stuff there, Delta... I keep telling myself to borrow my son't video cam and actually record myself, so far it hasn't happened.  Someday...

Maxi, when you mentioned Jim Croce, I remembered that way back too many years ago I used to play Time in a Bottle, so I picked up the guitar and damned if it didn't come out almost intact.  Amazing how that happens... not like I remember the words or anything, but that may be a good thing.  Pag kumanta ako sa banyo, bumalik yung tubig sa gripo...

I'd like to play Lover's Cross, always liked that song, but somehow it really needs 2 guitars.  Jim and Maury really had it down...

[GGBR]

I have been looking for a duet that could do "DUELING BANJOS" from the movie Deliverance (starring Bert Reynolds, if I remember right???)

[Red_Strat]

Does anyone here use 13's on their acoustic? It's killing my fingers.. but the tone is BIG.

I might go down to 12's when I change strings next time.. naawa ako sa fingers ko, it feels a bit too stiff, and I don't get to play too often nowadays.

[dayuhan]

I have been looking for a duet whom could do "DUELING BANJOS" from the movie Deliverance (starring Bert Reynolds, if I remember right???)

You need to find a banjo player, not so many of those around!

The guitar part isn't technically difficult, but it needs to be played with authority...