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Title: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: tonybagyo is a banned mofo on February 07, 2008, 10:28:24 AM
advantage and disadvantage between the two??
Title: Re: electronic drumset between acoustic drumset?
Post by: zound_tech on February 07, 2008, 04:36:01 PM
IMO, mas maganda talaga ang acoustic kc mas controlled mo yung tunog mo, tska mas masarap ang feel ng acoustic, tska xmpre mas maganda tingnan,
pero if you have limited space o kaya kelangan controlled yung volume ng drums mas maganda ang electronic, also, if you need to set up from time to time sa ibat ibang lugar, mas praktical ang electronic drumset, mas madali i-set up kc isang input lang ang kelangan nya sa mixer and you dont have to tune again and again, tska mas madali i-transport,
Title: Re: electronic drumset between acoustic drumset?
Post by: maplesyrup on February 07, 2008, 05:50:04 PM
i agree with zound_tech.... mas ok acoustic drums. mas maganda feel,control mo tunog,PALO mo... downside neto..it eats too much space.maingay, dika makakapagpractice kahit hating gabi(pwera na lang kung nasa soundproof ka na studio) sa electric kit naman! maganda dahil pede ka magpapalo kahit madaling araw at maraming tunog.. kaso ang ayaw ko sa electric kit. yung feel( medyo may kamurahan lang kasi electric kit ko) kung mas gusto mo tlgang ok na elec kit. roland td20.handa karin ng TALAGANG malaking pera! ehehehehe....yun lang!
Title: Re: electronic drumset between acoustic drumset?
Post by: adler on February 07, 2008, 06:24:45 PM
electronic drums na tayo sit and play konting tweak lng ayos na,, tingin ko mas kontrolado mo tunog sa e drums,, pwede mo bang hinaaan individually yung mga toms and cymbals,,..pwede mo rin pagpalit palitin,,,, tingin ko malapit na ung time na puro electronic na lng gagamitin ntn,,..
Title: Re: electronic drumset between acoustic drumset?
Post by: tonybagyo is a banned mofo on February 07, 2008, 10:41:42 PM
electronic drums na tayo sit and play konting tweak lng ayos na,, tingin ko mas kontrolado mo tunog sa e drums,, pwede mo bang hinaaan individually yung mga toms and cymbals,,..pwede mo rin pagpalit palitin,,,, tingin ko malapit na ung time na puro electronic na lng gagamitin ntn,,..
hanep ka adler... parang kang nasa states mag isip...sabagay marami na rin kasi talaga gumagamit ng e drums ngaun,,like jason bittner ng shadows fall... sa march 15 pala kitakits tayo...haheheheheh
Title: Re: electronic drumset between acoustic drumset?
Post by: LouieAzcona on February 08, 2008, 02:27:03 AM
mahirap magpatalbog sa E drumset. hence, minsan natatago ung style ng drummer
pero kapag meron ka nito, pwede ka tumugtog sa bahay mo kahit hindi ka nakasoundproff. at kahit anong oras. pwede ka gumamit ng headphones. mas madali xang irecord. chka less ang hassle kapag sinetup.
pero para sakin hindi kayang talunin ng E drumset ung acoustic. sa tunog palang. mas okey talaga ang acoustic.
pero may mga taong magaling magpaganda ng sound ng E drumset. ung drums ng urbandub sa records nila, except sa latest. Electronic drums ang ginamit.
Title: Re: electronic drumset between acoustic drumset?
Post by: tonybagyo is a banned mofo on February 08, 2008, 03:16:47 AM
yap...si john...urbandub....tropapeepsssssssssss
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: autoexec on February 17, 2008, 04:08:02 AM
sa bahay edrums, sa live acoustic. :D kaso mahirap na siguro pag nasanay ka masyado sa edrums... O_o
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: in_the_tent on February 17, 2008, 10:59:18 PM
hay.. gas for a Roland TD-6 in Perfect Pitch North.. kailan kaya... :-)
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: boyet garcia on March 08, 2010, 09:12:30 AM
i have acoustic and e drum maganda din e drum lalo na pag roland yun bago nila td 9sx all mesh pads at bagong technology nang drum brain nila td 9 module
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: jesurao on March 08, 2010, 10:25:59 AM
mga sir try nyo yung medeli e drums.... dd506 and dd508... yung dd506 standard 5 piece cya, yung dd508 fusion kit cya na 6 piece... if you want to try mga sir punta lang kayo music source sa alimall... nakaset up dd508 dun try nyo lang....
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: drummaniac on March 08, 2010, 11:58:07 AM
mga mag kano kya ang price range ng edrums? balak ko kasi bumili
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: bluesdriver03 on March 08, 2010, 12:15:18 PM
Depende sa modelo... Yung DTXPLORER ng Yamaha ang pinakamura but maganda naman ang quality sa sounds and materials. :-)
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: jesurao on March 09, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
Title: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: TorototNgTama on May 03, 2011, 09:08:05 AM
meron na ako acoustic drums gusto ko sana bumuli ng bago,para magupgrade kaso baka mabulok dahil hindi manlang magamit dahil hussle sa neighbor.,pero kung ang bibilin ko yung digital drums na medeli dd506 kahit ano oras makakapagpractice ako.,last question na kelangan ba ng ampli ng mga digital drums.,noob pa kac ako sa digital drums.,tulong mga bro!
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: mr. trigger on May 03, 2011, 09:18:52 AM
mas ok ang digital drums para sayo bro.kung nag aalala ka sa ingay na dulot ng acoustic drums. best buy ka sa dd506.. kahit naka headphone kana muna .kung wala kapang budget for amp :wink:
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: TorototNgTama on May 03, 2011, 09:27:25 AM
maraming salamat kapatid!Marami bad comment sa dd506 na masama ang tunog o kaya panget response ng bassdrum ,late ang hihat..what is the best for this issues?
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: dreendroid on May 03, 2011, 10:04:43 AM
kung magddigital ka, magRoland kna lng...khit un Roland HD1
un ang gmit ko before un monster kit ko ngaun eh :) nagcanvas nko about digitals dati......pangit ang response ng medeli
ang dahilan ko lng nmn sa digitals noon, ksi laging nassira un generic kung acoustic dati. ahaha ^_^
pls avoid text speak please. - mod
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: gax on May 03, 2011, 11:17:13 PM
Go for the Roland. Super ok yung reviews. Play all night long. And you can add cymbals, toms, etc. Naka regular ear plugs lang ako. No amp. Pwede na. :)
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: food.vulture on May 03, 2011, 11:42:27 PM
i'm also saving up for a digital drumset.. minsan kasi merong mga ideas na sa hating-gabi dumadating :-D hahaha di ko talaga 'feel' tumugtog ng digital, but no choice, 'need' cya eh.. if you have the budget, go for models that 'at least' you could also enjoy playing :-)
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: peeves24 on May 03, 2011, 11:55:16 PM
here's a stupid idea if you are adventurous:
if you want the most affordable edrums. wait for cebu pacific's price drop for hongkong. make sure you book your flight in june because tom lee is on sale for the whole month. there is a yamaha dtxpress IV that is only 25k which has been there since june 2010, i still saw the same kit at the same price last dec. it might still be there.
the dtxpress IV gives the most bang for the buck than roland at the same price point. besides, you cant buy a roland at that price even the HD1
kahit pumunta ka ng hongkong ng isang araw at bilin yung yamaha, mas mura pa rin yun kesa sa HD1 tapos nakapasyal ka pa :evil: round trip airfare (2500 max) + round trip bus to tsim sha tsui back to HKIA (66HKD) + yamaha (25k). kung may 40k ka ba budget, makakakain ka pa ng lunch at makakapasyal ng konti hehehe. magdala ka lang ng malaking maleta, kasya yung buong kit dun para hindi na masilip ng customs dito
yun nga lang, timing for buying the ticket is critical.
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: food.vulture on May 04, 2011, 12:12:37 AM
if you want the most affordable edrums. wait for cebu pacific's price drop for hongkong. make sure you book your flight in june because tom lee is on sale for the whole month. there is a yamaha dtxpress IV that is only 25k which has been there since june 2010, i still saw the same kit at the same price last dec. it might still be there.
the dtxpress IV gives the most bang for the buck than roland at the same price point. besides, you cant buy a roland at that price even the HD1
kahit pumunta ka ng hongkong ng isang araw at bilin yung yamaha, mas mura pa rin yun kesa sa HD1 tapos nakapasyal ka pa :evil: round trip airfare (2500 max) + round trip bus to tsim sha tsui back to HKIA (66HKD) + yamaha (25k). kung may 40k ka ba budget, makakakain ka pa ng lunch at makakapasyal ng konti hehehe. magdala ka lang ng malaking maleta, kasya yung buong kit dun para hindi na masilip ng customs dito
yun nga lang, timing for buying the ticket is critical.
hahahahaha not a bad idea sir!! :-D dagdag hassle talaga ang customs pag-bibili ka overseas ng bnew items esp if as big as the e-drum.. tsk tsk
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: peeves24 on May 04, 2011, 12:17:04 AM
maliit lang yung box ng yamaha, alisin mo sa box, kakasya yun sa malaking maleta. iwan mo na lang yung drum throne at pedal. or magsama ka ng isa pa para 2 yung pwede nyo icheck in yung 2 maleta nyo hehehe
yung drum module ilagay mo sa handcarry mo
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: food.vulture on May 04, 2011, 12:44:05 AM
hahaha sir, that's already a brilliant idea/plan!! thanks for the info.. hopefully this june we can go to hk.. sana ung e-drums nandoon pa.. i-aaply ko ung idea mo :-D
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: peeves24 on May 04, 2011, 06:42:50 AM
well if you decide to take my stupid idea seriously, you should know that the unit might probably the only stock left and i think it was the floor demo unit that's why its selling so cheap. its the version which uses a regular pad on the hihat while the dtxpress IV special uses an acoustic hihat stand
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: gax on May 04, 2011, 12:11:19 PM
Added lang for the roland... you can even fix the tension of the mesh to your preffererence. So far the best e-kit I've tried. Other e-kits make a "tap" sound... mas mahina lang talaga sa Roland. Feels the best and it's the most quiet ba.
:-D
Pero honestly, I still like playing with an acoustic. Feeling ko rin you can't hit so hard on the digi drums. Not that I hit hard anyhow...
Title: Re: Acoustic drum vs Digital drums
Post by: dreendroid on May 05, 2011, 11:04:03 AM
I forgot to mention these guys....dun sa dati kong Roland. well.....after 2 years nasira un tom holder ko. plastic lng ksi. buti nga may bumili p nun. e lower pa sa half price ko binenta eh! HAHA :)
pls avoid text speak please. - mod
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: TorototNgTama on May 08, 2011, 10:55:19 AM
magkano yung yamaha DT explorer sa pilipinas?
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: TorototNgTama on May 08, 2011, 12:07:10 PM
http://gearhounds.com/ddrum-dd1-series-electronic-drum-kit. maganda ekit at mura..
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: saucecentral0717 on May 09, 2011, 07:46:13 PM
Here are some of the things that I have noticed, hope it helps.
Acoustic advantages:
1. its the real thing, therefore, you do not need to adjust yourself in terms of reach. 2. you get to practice dynamics which is a core aspect in drumming. 3. dynamics is also controlled depending on how loud you want it or how low you want it. 4. most acoustic kits are cheaper than electronic kits 5. if you take care of your acoustic kit it can last a lifetime. 6. large space for kit customization. place a tom here and the snare there no problem.
Acoustic disadvantages:
1. by default it is loud, and being able to play it without your neighbors being mad comes with practice. 2. maintenance is difficult. if you want to maintain the integrity of your kit like the day that you have bought it then you need to be patient with the wiping. 3. keeping rust and the wood intact is also another issue, you need to make sure that your kit is in a spot that is not accessible to moisture and rain for that matter. 4. whenever you need to play in a gig and you want your drums to be the star then you have to carry a lot of things. (drummer = lugi sa buhatan) 5. depending on the area that you are going to play you must almost always change the tone of your kit. the tone that best works inside a room may not work best for a stadium setting.
Electric kit Advantages:
1. the tone of each drum is "ideal," no need for a drum key and hours of tuning. just plug it in and you are all set. 2. compact (not until pearl's e-pro live came in) most e-kits are held together with a hardware and the need for space is constant. 3. reach advantage (not until pearl's e-pro live came in) as most e-kits have only 10 inch pad or even 8 inch ones as snares, and toms and bass drums. you can easily launch that 17 stroke roll without a sweat as compared to a real kit 4. volume is controlled easily. you can use a baseball bat as drum sticks without even the next room knowing that you are practicing. You can also place the output through a headset to keep the sound to yourself. 5. dozens of kit with just one package. You can make dozens of percussion sounds as you can customize the sound of each pad. 6. recording is a breeze. no need to fancy mics, sound proof rooms, and complicated recording devices. 7. easy to carry.
Electronic kit Disadvantages:
1. expensive. most e-kits that i have encountered would cost too much that i can buy an acoustic kit + cymbals with the price that an e-kit has. 2. You can use it without power obviously. so when you feel the urge to play drums on a brown-out well you cant. 3. its an electronic appliance, similar to a TV and a ref IT WILL come to a point that it will go whack whether you play loud or not. 4. Major adjustment if you are playing from an ekit to a real kit. remember spamming that 17 stroke roll on the e-kit without a sweat? if you are used to that then you will have a hard time doing the same on a real kit.
those are as far as i know, i hope they can help. im speaking in general when i mentioned these things mga sirs :-D
Title: E-Drums Vs. Acoustic Drums
Post by: ken minneman on May 08, 2012, 06:23:27 AM
At ako'y nag iipon ngayon...
(Mods, di ko po alam kung may post nang ganto before, kung meron na po, you know what to do.. wag niyo lang po idelete post ko para mabasa pa rin nila at para makakuha ako (at ang iba) ng valuable na answers.. )
Which is better E-drums or acoustic drums? Bakit?
Thanks! :lol:
Title: Re: E-Drums Vs. Acoustic Drums
Post by: mrsticky on May 08, 2012, 11:27:06 AM
I'm not a mod or whatever, but I think na discuss po dito yan.
http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=15057.0
check mo na lang sir. :-D
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: jeff_proX40 on June 06, 2012, 04:39:42 AM
Naku maraming disadvantage ng e-drum. If you play funk and jazz you'll know what I mean. Hirap mag patunog ng hats na 32nds and 64s na may accent. Ang hirap din mag choke unless super Hi-end ng e-drums. Ring ng Ride and mga side tones na gusto mo palabasin di rin lumalabas. Sa heads naman rim shots na dynamic ang hirap palabasin at yung mga malulutong and bouncy sounds na napapalabas mo sa acoustic drum eh di mapalabas. Well dipended talaga kung anong tugtugan siguro pero if it's acid, funk, contemporary jazz, classic jazz, blues olats ang e-drums
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: dreamhaus09 on August 27, 2012, 02:24:00 PM
Noob ako pagdating sa drums. :-D tingin nyo mga sir ano mas OK sa dalawa? may nakita ako sa Sulit e.
iniisip ko kung bibili ako ng acoustic kailangan ko bumili ng mas OK na Cymbals. Di ko talaga kasi trip tunog ng generic e. (may set kasi tropa ko, generic yung cymbals.) kung e-drums naman mukang kailangan ko ng Ampli at speaker. (Tama po ba? :? )
in the long run ano ba mas magastos? tsaka kunwari sa halagang 20K-30K ano mas ok bilin? e-drums o acoustic drums??:D
PS. Tsaka na ako bibili ng high-end na set pag mayaman na ako :razz:
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: ermonski on August 27, 2012, 10:05:47 PM
how much are electronic drums nowadays? yung parang Yamaha DD65.
can I do dynamics with it and cymbal chokes? thanks!
for home use and recording lang. :D
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: thuzkee02 on September 06, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
Magandang discussion ito. I've learned a lot.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: bugoy on September 07, 2012, 02:31:31 AM
Naku maraming disadvantage ng e-drum. If you play funk and jazz you'll know what I mean. Hirap mag patunog ng hats na 32nds and 64s na may accent. Ang hirap din mag choke unless super Hi-end ng e-drums. Ring ng Ride and mga side tones na gusto mo palabasin di rin lumalabas. Sa heads naman rim shots na dynamic ang hirap palabasin at yung mga malulutong and bouncy sounds na napapalabas mo sa acoustic drum eh di mapalabas. Well dipended talaga kung anong tugtugan siguro pero if it's acid, funk, contemporary jazz, classic jazz, blues olats ang e-drums
pwede yan sa roland v series.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: dariusbabylon on September 07, 2012, 07:53:10 AM
Acoustic
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Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: raye on November 22, 2012, 12:46:07 AM
i think both are good but in their own way....
i use to have acoustic kit, kaso nagkaroon ako ng noise issue sa neighbor, kaya ang only option ko is to trade it w/ an electronic kit para anytime pwedeng gamitin at less hassle sa ingay. so depende yan sa situation ng user
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: dreamhaus09 on November 22, 2012, 08:37:27 PM
i use to have acoustic kit, kaso nagkaroon ako ng noise issue sa neighbor, kaya ang only option ko is to trade it w/ an electronic kit para anytime pwedeng gamitin at less hassle sa ingay. so depende yan sa situation ng user
Anong e-drums gamit mo? plano ko rin bumili e. Yun din iniisip ko. yung kapitbahay. :-D
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: raye on November 22, 2012, 11:49:48 PM
Anong e-drums gamit mo? plano ko rin bumili e. Yun din iniisip ko. yung kapitbahay. :-D
roland TD-9KX.....noise issue talaga ang main concern when it comes to acoustic kit :cry:
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: michael.astigin on October 31, 2013, 03:06:13 PM
electric drums mas convinient se to kesa sa acoustic kontrolable mo se yung volume tapos madali pa dalahin kung saan saan lalo na yung mga table tops
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 01, 2013, 08:10:51 PM
for outdoor music, I go for acoustic drums. Hehe Pero kung may malaking lugar and pera ka sa bahay mo, bili ka na rin acoustic drums, then kung may bata senyu, go for e-drums. hehe
Iba parin kasi talaga yung tunog ng acoustic drums for me. Almost perfect for aiming perfect drumming skills. :-)
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: mrsticky on November 07, 2013, 07:55:50 AM
depende sa situation eh, if noise issue hands down sa e-drums. but for other aspects real thing is the REAL thing.
But, less upgrade ka sa e-drums, although mas mahal ang upgrade if you need to do so. I live in a condo type of accommodation provided by the company, and I have a roommate so no choice but to buy e-drums.
But still if I have chance, I play acoustic drums owned by my friend so that I don't lose the dynamics.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: channel on November 07, 2013, 04:33:19 PM
IMHO di dapat pagtalunan katulad ng acoustic guitar vs. electric guitar or piano vs. keyboards. Both will serve each purpose.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: edrummer on April 28, 2014, 03:34:29 AM
im a proud edrummer hehe.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: edrummer on April 28, 2014, 03:44:12 AM
iniisip ko kung bibili ako ng acoustic kailangan ko bumili ng mas OK na Cymbals. Di ko talaga kasi trip tunog ng generic e. (may set kasi tropa ko, generic yung cymbals.) kung e-drums naman mukang kailangan ko ng Ampli at speaker. (Tama po ba? :? )
in the long run ano ba mas magastos? tsaka kunwari sa halagang 20K-30K ano mas ok bilin? e-drums o acoustic drums??:D
PS. Tsaka na ako bibili ng high-end na set pag mayaman na ako :razz:
sir bilin mo yung ringway td92 di ka magsisisi.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: jhesed on April 18, 2015, 11:29:14 AM
Acoustic ang gamit namin sa church. Pero bumili ako nung roland td-11k sa bahay. pag nakabili ako ng speaker baka gamitin ko na rin yun sa church. Maganda kasi yung vst na superior drummer. buhay na buhay yung tunog niya. Ang dali pang irecord.
Title: Re: Acoustic vs. Electronic drums
Post by: sonicassault on May 12, 2015, 09:33:00 AM
If going for the acoustic drum sounds, talagang panalo pa rin ang acoustic. but of course never discount the merits of electronic drums. Some rock acts, especially metal acts, have triggered kicks, and if image wasn't an issue, you'd probably have at around half of them with kick pads instead of drums.
Another advantage of electronic cymbals is tom sounds. admittedly, the toms are the most painful in the ass to tune, and head selection contributes a lot to the sound. hook the module up to a nice drum software and pick your perfectly tuned toms.
I would never trade my acoustic snare and my cymbals for its electronic counterparts though. While Zildjian has actual metal cymbals for its gen16 line, the sound sucks. And the plastic or rubber pads aren't responsive enough. good luck getting proper 32nds and 64ths and swells with it. no triangle tricks. and the hi hats are horrible. cooking is a great effort, if not downright impossible. pedal sensitivity is made for punk rockers (my own hats have like, half an inch of clearance fully open, punk rock drums are usually set up much wider).
Snares are another thing e-drums can't yet replace. where you hit the drum contributes a lot to its sound. an advanced player can actually "play" the snare wires themselves instead of focusing on the attack, and that's something you can't do on a pad. you also can't do that gradual turning on of the snares trick. and yes, those rolls don't really get picked up well by the pads. oh and forget about brushes.
If you're playing jazz or some really expressive form/genre of drumming, acoustic is the only way to go. but for much else, the electronic drums have its place. Straight up pop and rock is the best fit for e-drums. I actually don't understand why pop producers even still track live drums just to trigger them. and for triggering sounds, e-drums are the way to go. Personally, I can go and replace my toms and kick with pads and leave my snare and cymbals for a hybrid set. and maybe even get a trigger array for electronica sounds.