magkaktabi na wide angled na horns??!!! tindi cguro ng sound cancellation..haha.
Not too much cancellation on MIDs and HIGHs... Only on LFs. Kaya nga naglalagay tayo ng SUBS sa gitna ( aside from the L/R subs ) to compensate...Tama ba ako? or Tama?
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Post by: alien_inside on June 04, 2010, 08:28:59 PM
tingin ko ang category nila eh: BEST SOUNDING SUBs.
malamang kasi sa tingin ko puro base ang maririnig ei halata naman sa video, at saka isa pa gusto nila ang chest puonding na sounds... siguro pag naka rinig ito ng High definition na setup lalo na yong RCF TT+ high defination mamangha ito hindi puro base na lang marinig mo. harharhar
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Post by: spacejam on June 05, 2010, 11:35:10 AM
kanya kanya taste. gusto ng tao sa iloilo malakas na bass kaya kung pansinin mo, marami sila subwoofer box. kahit medyo distorted na tunog ok lang. basta maramdaman nila ang force ng speaker. :-D
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Post by: alien_inside on June 06, 2010, 07:32:29 AM
kanya kanya taste. gusto ng tao sa iloilo malakas na bass kaya kung pansinin mo, marami sila subwoofer box. kahit medyo distorted na tunog ok lang. basta maramdaman nila ang force ng speaker. :-D
ayoko mag-GIG if that's the case...
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Post by: NS10 Reborn on June 09, 2010, 04:44:30 AM
nakita ko sa you tube... ang dami ng speakers and subs... huh ... ano bayan... QUALITY OR QUANTITY?
sige sa inyo na yang sound capital title of the Philippines di ako ko kontra... hahahaha i don't want to loose my ear drums and my heart...hahaha :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Post by: karlwilson on June 09, 2010, 01:04:56 PM
wait..lets here their side..malay nyo naka RCF speaker subs sila or allen/heath mixer sila or maganda naman mga processors nila.meron ba dito ounds system owner na taga Iloilo? :evil:
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Post by: Jef2 on June 09, 2010, 05:13:35 PM
it's not more on the brand of equipments that will be in question to sound right. in the case of the groups in iloilo, having a 'wall of speakers' will not equate to really loud sound (or even noise :?). some audio fundamentals should be observed. one very important practice is 'phase checking'. speakers connected out of phase with each other can really result in a dramatic loss of bass. with a simple device like a 'phase checker', you can correct this common audio problem and eventually avoid using those 'wall of speakers' set-up 8-)
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Post by: spacejam on June 09, 2010, 11:45:10 PM
just adding my 2 cents, kanya kanya hilig taste yan pare, ang alam kong mga nag mobile sa iloilo nay mga iba hobby lang nila magtugtog ng sounds, dun sila masaya masasabi ko sa tao sa iloilo sound enthusiast sila and hindi pang hanap buhay ang rentals nila di naman tulad ng manila ang iloilo pagdating ng singil ng mga rentals, kaya di din advisable din mag invest sila sa RCF and Allen and Heath. may mga iba nakita ko Crown and QSC amplifier and P. Audio speakers .
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Post by: modular07 on June 10, 2010, 08:35:16 AM
SPL Capital, they're version of the DB drag.
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Post by: Xelly on June 18, 2010, 08:46:17 AM
Naexperience ko ito ng harapan!! Parang hihiwalay yung kaluluwa ko sa katawan ko!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post by: mmdreborn on July 03, 2010, 04:32:48 AM
uso ngaun dun yung sound..pero intensity ang priority di ang quality.. tight and puncher bass yung gusto nila..di naman ksi pang big events or dj's yung sound dun..but for leisure and hobbies.kahit saang sulok dun,may sounds..kahit porke bata dun ay may sariling minisounds...tsaka china yung kalimitan na amp...ksi nga affordable....minsan makita mo prang sabong na rin sa dami ng tao na nakiki usyoso...haha..pero never try to stand to close in front of those sub..prang minamaso yung dibdib mo eh.....ive been there once...hahaha..trip trip lng yan...hahaha..
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Post by: NS10 Reborn on July 03, 2010, 06:14:00 AM
uso ngaun dun yung sound..pero intensity ang priority di ang quality.. tight and puncher bass yung gusto nila..di naman ksi pang big events or dj's yung sound dun..but for leisure and hobbies.kahit saang sulok dun,may sounds..kahit porke bata dun ay may sariling minisounds...tsaka china yung kalimitan na amp...ksi nga affordable....minsan makita mo prang sabong na rin sa dami ng tao na nakiki usyoso...haha..pero never try to stand to close in front of those sub..prang minamaso yung dibdib mo eh.....ive been there once...hahaha..trip trip lng yan...hahaha..
kakatawa tong thread na to... di pa natatapos... sound capital na ang ilo ilo... declare na natin agreee nalang kayo lahat... hahahaha pero ako solid DAVAO CITY... si Joey Ayala andoon eh at si Eric Ganso... ay gangcho... ay... dapat siguro yung speakers na to ang e CHECK NINYO... http://www.sn10.webs.com/ kasi parang Yamaha NS10 daw pero mura at quality mga 1/3 lang sa presyo at mas maganda kaya?
come on ilo ilo... check this out... mas maganda to sa China Made... hehehe
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Post by: Xelly on July 03, 2010, 11:10:51 AM
^^^ +1 ako para kay Master Joey Ayala!! Lufet!! :-D
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Post by: NS10 Reborn on July 03, 2010, 06:10:40 PM
think logic studio? ikaw ba may ari? hahaha dyan sa villa.
@Musikerochan, dude may nahanap akong perfect chassis para dun. KAWAYAN!
men hindi ko naisip yun ah! hindi kaya malusaw/masunog in the long run yung kawayan na gagawin mong tube socket?
eh yung cab, nakabili ka na ng bago o yung dati pa ring almost nalugi ka? :-D
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Post by: km-r on July 12, 2010, 05:19:59 PM
hehehe di ah, yung material is parang chopping board na kawayan! tinanggal ko yung cab from our dvd player for my own use. guitar cab naman yun eh hindi home theatre.
maya maya sisitahin na tayo were way too OT
@Xelly, jamming na!
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Post by: think logic on July 22, 2010, 10:49:16 PM
gud pm mga sir..ako taga villa..ako ang tag iya sng think logic studio..hehehe...
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Post by: gribox on July 26, 2010, 09:02:54 PM
ito pa check nu nlang...ito daw ngayon no.1 sa Iloilo (RGL SOUND)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahkb8Nr8As
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Post by: km-r on July 26, 2010, 09:24:24 PM
kuya ralph!?
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Post by: barracks01 on July 27, 2010, 08:56:53 AM
ito pa check nu nlang...ito daw ngayon no.1 sa Iloilo (RGL SOUND)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahkb8Nr8As
di naman pwede pang live yong ganitong tipong setup.. sa street dance party pwede to, mga pang tatlong araw na sayawan katulad sa bicol last time naku grabe..
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Post by: Xelly on July 27, 2010, 09:06:42 AM
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Post by: gribox on July 27, 2010, 03:48:14 PM
meron pa bang lugar sa pilipinas na may ganito??...oo meron bandang mindanao pero wala masyadong SOUND DERBY dun.....tsaka di kasing linis(porma) ng mga taga iloilo!!
try this kalimudan festival...
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Post by: km-r on July 28, 2010, 02:39:39 PM
OKAAYYY.... DUGS DUGS DUGS DUGS DUGS~!!! :-D
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Post by: gribox on July 28, 2010, 02:53:29 PM
matigas masyado, palambutin natin ng konti.....
bogs..bogs..bogs..bogs!!!.
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Post by: Glennox on July 28, 2010, 09:53:38 PM
ito pa check nu nlang...ito daw ngayon no.1 sa Iloilo (RGL SOUND)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ahkb8Nr8As
sir anong power amps gamit ni RGL Sound? . . .,, :wink:
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Post by: gribox on July 29, 2010, 12:06:48 PM
sir try nu to panoorin....gadgets nila mix din..BBE maximizer, DBX, Yamaha mixer, LEXUS amps & speaker etc..
halos kasi sa iloilo sound lover more on bass mga set ups...hilig lang tlaga nila sa malalakas ang bayo!! not on live set ups..kaya kahit mga bata dun may mga mini sounds...kung makikita nyo ung na upload kong CLASH OF SOUNDS pwera pa dun may battle of mini sounds din...try nu pumunta sa Dinagyang Festival (month of january) every streets may mga sounds...and by june naman sa Leganes Iloilo ( Lugar kung san marami mga sounds dun) battle of sounds every year..ito ung mga main events dun..
pero sa mga ibang lugar nag papa battle din cla..let say 3 sounds laban palakasan ng bayo may mga price din...
tingnan nyo mga bata lang nag d-drive ng sounds!!
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Post by: gribox on July 29, 2010, 12:20:06 PM
LEGANES, ILOILO SOUND SYSTEM BATTLE 2010
LEGANES, ILOILO MINI SOUND BATTLE
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Post by: gribox on July 29, 2010, 12:39:20 PM
RCLS SOUNDS & LIGHTS - ito ung sound sa iloilo pang live set-ups, but nitong june sumali cla sa legane sound show...
TRI-ADS SOUNDS - pang live din...so far RCLS & TRI-ADS mga client nito SM, lahat ng shows cla kinukuha..pati mga concert mga banda galing manila cla ung reinforcement... wala lang clang video sa mga gigs nila..minsan sumasali din cla battle..
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Post by: think logic on July 29, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
@km-r... yes pre c ralph ni...hehehe.. cno kw gani? hehehe @xelly -- thanx visit kmu diri welcom gid kmu
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Post by: gribox on July 29, 2010, 05:30:59 PM
baw daw kadamo na ilonggo di haw?!
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Post by: think logic on July 29, 2010, 10:44:49 PM
op pre ilongo ka man..dw mayu aw hehehe....
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Post by: Xelly on July 30, 2010, 10:34:25 AM
Mga sir ano marerecommend ninyong supplier and lights & sound dito sa Iloilo? Yung Barato sana pero quality!! :-)
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Post by: gribox on August 05, 2010, 07:06:56 PM
ILOILO - RADIOSHACK & MRM ELECTRONICS
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Post by: km-r on August 06, 2010, 11:16:55 AM
+ 1 sa MRM kag Iloilo RS
may contact kayo sir sa RS? landline number?
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Post by: Xelly on August 09, 2010, 10:40:08 PM
sige na malakas na kayo malinis nlang kami hahahahah..... sa inyo na lakas nio
:lol:
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Post by: km-r on August 18, 2010, 04:09:17 PM
meron ako kilalang audiophile... pero i dont think mag qualify sya... may ari kase ng junk shop, malinis ba yun? audio junkie... yung isang audiophile na nakilala ko lives next to a graveyard, malinis ba yun? DIY tube gear gumagawa din sya ng mga PA systems for churches.
@Xelly,
try mo pag pumunta ka sa fishing port, before sa street nila may junk shop dun.. hanep tube hifi set-up!
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Post by: Xelly on August 18, 2010, 10:38:26 PM
meron ako kilalang audiophile... pero i dont think mag qualify sya... may ari kase ng junk shop, malinis ba yun? audio junkie... yung isang audiophile na nakilala ko lives next to a graveyard, malinis ba yun? DIY tube gear gumagawa din sya ng mga PA systems for churches.
@Xelly,
try mo pag pumunta ka sa fishing port, before sa street nila may junk shop dun.. hanep tube hifi set-up!
Wow nice!! Ayus ito sir!! Mapuntahan nga!! Isama ko si sir Deathboy!!! :lol:
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Post by: Solutions and Tools on August 22, 2010, 10:48:14 PM
Pinag kaka kitaan lang sila . . . . . . . Tama?
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Post by: spacejam on August 24, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
may bago ba sa iloilo na speakers?
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Post by: mants on August 24, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
thanks bro... kumusta ang integra pro amplifier? ngayon ko lang nakita itong brand.
wla pang feedback bro sa integra power amplifier , ,,baka nitong dinagyang 2011 bka meron na gagamit nito pra sa batle of the sounds ..abang nlang tau sa mga apload ng kaibigan ntin n tga iloilo hehe,,,
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Post by: mr. ultimate on September 01, 2010, 09:20:29 PM
sa mga taga ILOILO wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na malakas pa sa crell and lexus . sa sept. 15 may stock na eto, sobra dami ng power transistor 2 ohms stable pa pati na ang 15" na speaker 5' inch voice coil magulat kayo sa itsura !
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Post by: Xelly on September 01, 2010, 09:27:56 PM
sa mga taga ILOILO wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na malakas pa sa crell and lexus . sa sept. 15 may stock na eto, sobra dami ng power transistor 2 ohms stable pa pati na ang 15" na speaker 5' inch voice coil magulat kayo sa itsura !
:-o :-o :-o
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Post by: senti on September 01, 2010, 11:16:03 PM
hayufff talaga hatawan dyan sa Iloilo
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Post by: gribox on September 02, 2010, 03:08:03 PM
sa mga taga ILOILO wait lang kayo maglalabas ang LIVE ng power amp na malakas pa sa crell and lexus . sa sept. 15 may stock na eto, sobra dami ng power transistor 2 ohms stable pa pati na ang 15" na speaker 5' inch voice coil magulat kayo sa itsura !
:-o :-o
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Post by: mr. ultimate on September 11, 2010, 08:51:24 PM
may bago na Live 15 inch 5 inch voice coil double magnet
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Post by: Glennox on September 14, 2010, 04:11:15 PM
Hihiwalay sa katawan mo kaluluwa mo kapag na tapat ka dito!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
haha normal na set up lang yan. minsan pag may mga major battle sa Leganes from 16 to 20 na mobile ang lumalaban dyan.... by the way lumabas na ba sa iloilo ang amplifier ng live? mas malakas pa daw sa CA25... mau nkapag subok na ba sa iloilo?
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Post by: tjlimjoco on September 15, 2010, 11:50:07 AM
...Function-one?...distributed by Stagecraft yata ito bossing...ganito yung nakadisplay sa booth nila sa PALMM 2010...nasa PHP 500,000 yata ang isang box...,, :-o
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Post by: Xelly on September 21, 2010, 01:02:48 PM
...Function-one?...distributed by Stagecraft yata ito bossing...ganito yung nakadisplay sa booth nila sa PALMM 2010...nasa PHP 500,000 yata ang isang box...,, :-o
Oh my gulay ang mahal pala nun!!!!
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Post by: CodeOne on September 21, 2010, 01:55:33 PM
May project ako nito noon...hindi natapos kasi mahal na ang polymer products.
Magandang Araw, jojo
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Post by: Jef2 on September 22, 2010, 01:11:00 PM
i think the price of the funktion-one resolution5 series is php 350,000 per cab. :-o just a passive set-up. it is locally distributed by stagecraft trading and most outdoor shows of gma 7's s.o.p. and now party pilipinas use this. 8-)
i think the price of the funktion-one resolution5 series is php 350,000 per cab. :-o just a passive set-up. it is locally distributed by stagecraft trading and most outdoor shows of gma 7's s.o.p. and now party pilipinas use this. 8-)
150 feet long, 35 feet tall, 550,000 watts program (very conservative), 460 channels of QSC and BSS amplification, all Turbosound cabs ofc - 300 TMS-3s and 60 TSW-124s. 4 way setup using ONE cross-over modified for the load & current draw required.
During the show the SPL was 118dB average / 124dB peak, but the system during fully operational & ... See Moretuned test phase... 130dB average / 140dB peak. Mind you, this was being measured from 90 meters out!! And still with no peak limiting required whatsoever!! And it was operated at around half power for the actual show to boot. It must have sounded freakin EPIC. Not to mention the lineup was pretty good. Iron Maiden (who owned about half of the system), KISS, David Lee Roth, Megadeth, Guns N' Roses, and Helloween. - Jesse Graffam
descripton courtesy of hx pro :-)
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Post by: barracks01 on September 25, 2010, 06:41:20 PM
pano na lang kaya pag nasa harap ka 5 meters away from wall of speakers
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Post by: Xelly on September 25, 2010, 09:28:51 PM
150 feet long, 35 feet tall, 550,000 watts program (very conservative), 460 channels of QSC and BSS amplification, all Turbosound cabs ofc - 300 TMS-3s and 60 TSW-124s. 4 way setup using ONE cross-over modified for the load & current draw required.
During the show the SPL was 118dB average / 124dB peak, but the system during fully operational & ... See Moretuned test phase... 130dB average / 140dB peak. Mind you, this was being measured from 90 meters out!! And still with no peak limiting required whatsoever!! And it was operated at around half power for the actual show to boot. It must have sounded freakin EPIC. Not to mention the lineup was pretty good. Iron Maiden (who owned about half of the system), KISS, David Lee Roth, Megadeth, Guns N' Roses, and Helloween. - Jesse Graffam
descripton courtesy of hx pro :-)
EPIC!! Nakakatakot!!!
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Post by: constantpressure on September 26, 2010, 06:21:31 AM
The Guiness book of Records (1990 ed. p. 155) says: "Largest PA system: On Aug 20th 1988 at the Castle Donington 'Monsters of Rock' Festival a total of 360 Turbosound cabinets offering a potential 523kW of programme power, formed the largest front-of-house PA. The average Sound Pressure Level at the mixing tower was 118dB, peaking at a maximum of 124dB during Iron Maiden's set. It took five days to set up the system."
i think the price of the funktion-one resolution5 series is php 350,000 per cab. :-o just a passive set-up. it is locally distributed by stagecraft trading and most outdoor shows of gma 7's s.o.p. and now party pilipinas use this. 8-)
Just a question mga sirs. What is the objective of a "Battle" ? Salamat.
Let me tell you sumtin from the past....why ilonggos are music lover!!! at mahilig sa bayli/sayawan!!
The Dinagyang is a religious and cultural festival in Iloilo City, Philippines held on the fourth Sunday of January, or right after the Sinulog In Cebu and the Ati-Atihan in Aklan. It is held both to honor the Santo Niño and to celebrate the arrival on Panay of Malay settlers and the subsequent selling of the island to them by the Atis.
In the beginning, The Confradia patterned the celebration on the Ati-atihan of Ibajay, Aklan, where natives dance in the streets, their bodies covered with soot and ashes, to simulate the Atis dancing to celebrate the sale of Panay. It was these tribal groups who were the prototype of the present festival.
The Dinagyang is divided into three Major events: Ati-Ati Street Dancing, Kasadyahan Street Dancing and Miss Dinagyang.
Today, the main part of the festival consists of a number of "tribes", called "tribus", who are supposed to be Ati tribe members dancing in celebration.
and so on naging modern na ung street dancing ginamitan na ng makabagong teknolohiya at nauso na ung laban ng sound....at di lang sa iloilo, buong Island ng Panay - Capiz, Antique, Aklan, Bacolod at guimaras ay maraming mga sound set ups din..
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Post by: spacejam on September 27, 2010, 05:39:01 PM
Let me tell you sumtin from the past....why ilonggos are music lover!!! at mahilig sa bayli/sayawan!!
The Dinagyang is a religious and cultural festival in Iloilo City, Philippines held on the fourth Sunday of January, or right after the Sinulog In Cebu and the Ati-Atihan in Aklan. It is held both to honor the Santo Niño and to celebrate the arrival on Panay of Malay settlers and the subsequent selling of the island to them by the Atis.
In the beginning, The Confradia patterned the celebration on the Ati-atihan of Ibajay, Aklan, where natives dance in the streets, their bodies covered with soot and ashes, to simulate the Atis dancing to celebrate the sale of Panay. It was these tribal groups who were the prototype of the present festival.
The Dinagyang is divided into three Major events: Ati-Ati Street Dancing, Kasadyahan Street Dancing and Miss Dinagyang.
Today, the main part of the festival consists of a number of "tribes", called "tribus", who are supposed to be Ati tribe members dancing in celebration.
and so on naging modern na ung street dancing ginamitan na ng makabagong teknolohiya at nauso na ung laban ng sound....at di lang sa iloilo, buong Island ng Panay - Capiz, Antique, Aklan, Bacolod at guimaras ay maraming mga sound set ups din..
i see napapanisin ko nga sir yun.... sa set up pa lang madami na umaaligid at parang mga artista ang mga mobile na sikat, marami sila fans :-D
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Post by: spacejam on September 27, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
may nagpost na sa youtube ng battle sa iloilo
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Post by: Glennox on September 28, 2010, 05:41:52 AM
Let me tell you sumtin from the past....why ilonggos are music lover!!! at mahilig sa bayli/sayawan!!
The Dinagyang is a religious and cultural festival in Iloilo City, Philippines held on the fourth Sunday of January, or right after the Sinulog In Cebu and the Ati-Atihan in Aklan. It is held both to honor the Santo Niño and to celebrate the arrival on Panay of Malay settlers and the subsequent selling of the island to them by the Atis.
In the beginning, The Confradia patterned the celebration on the Ati-atihan of Ibajay, Aklan, where natives dance in the streets, their bodies covered with soot and ashes, to simulate the Atis dancing to celebrate the sale of Panay. It was these tribal groups who were the prototype of the present festival.
The Dinagyang is divided into three Major events: Ati-Ati Street Dancing, Kasadyahan Street Dancing and Miss Dinagyang.
Today, the main part of the festival consists of a number of "tribes", called "tribus", who are supposed to be Ati tribe members dancing in celebration.
and so on naging modern na ung street dancing ginamitan na ng makabagong teknolohiya at nauso na ung laban ng sound....at di lang sa iloilo, buong Island ng Panay - Capiz, Antique, Aklan, Bacolod at guimaras ay maraming mga sound set ups din..
...+100...,, :wink:
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Post by: constantpressure on September 28, 2010, 06:20:30 AM
This is very SAD...(comment on youtube)
"@uncajesse Where making history here idiot... can you name somewhere in the world where events like this happens. where more audio equipments are display!!!! You can name some but for sure is a lower version of ours here!!! You will be the one listed in the "hall of shame" not us.. becuase your an idiot !!!"
We are not alone...and We are not the first...We just borrowed the technology for us to enjoy it and have fun.
wla pang feedback bro sa integra power amplifier , ,,baka nitong dinagyang 2011 bka meron na gagamit nito pra sa batle of the sounds ..abang nlang tau sa mga apload ng kaibigan ntin n tga iloilo hehe,,,
...Sir Mants heto meron na yatang nagtry ng Integra power amps...,, :wink:
Let me tell you sumtin from the past....why ilonggos are music lover!!! at mahilig sa bayli/sayawan!!
The Dinagyang is a religious and cultural festival in Iloilo City, Philippines held on the fourth Sunday of January, or right after the Sinulog In Cebu and the Ati-Atihan in Aklan. It is held both to honor the Santo Niño and to celebrate the arrival on Panay of Malay settlers and the subsequent selling of the island to them by the Atis.
In the beginning, The Confradia patterned the celebration on the Ati-atihan of Ibajay, Aklan, where natives dance in the streets, their bodies covered with soot and ashes, to simulate the Atis dancing to celebrate the sale of Panay. It was these tribal groups who were the prototype of the present festival.
The Dinagyang is divided into three Major events: Ati-Ati Street Dancing, Kasadyahan Street Dancing and Miss Dinagyang.
Today, the main part of the festival consists of a number of "tribes", called "tribus", who are supposed to be Ati tribe members dancing in celebration.
and so on naging modern na ung street dancing ginamitan na ng makabagong teknolohiya at nauso na ung laban ng sound....at di lang sa iloilo, buong Island ng Panay - Capiz, Antique, Aklan, Bacolod at guimaras ay maraming mga sound set ups din..
Thanks amigo. You're the man :evil:
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Post by: mants on September 28, 2010, 05:09:29 PM
thnks sir..ito may nakuha akong video nitong B & A mobile P audio yata mga speakers nila at baka nga integra na n gamit nila n power amps.d lng kc na videohan ung racks nila.. ito ung links,
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Post by: Glennox on September 30, 2010, 04:05:12 PM
"@uncajesse Where making history here idiot... can you name somewhere in the world where events like this happens. where more audio equipments are display!!!! You can name some but for sure is a lower version of ours here!!! You will be the one listed in the "hall of shame" not us.. becuase your an idiot !!!"
We are not alone...and We are not the first...We just borrowed the technology for us to enjoy it and have fun.
Hindi ko alam Sir, excerpt lang from internet while browsing...natuwa kasi ako, kasi masaya sila kahit na mahirap at mabibigat ang trabaho nila.
Have a nice day, jojo
i thought that was you, sir. anyway, nice gear nila. impressive din mga shares mo dito, sir, nice drawings. yours? wonder what software your using? thanks uli, sir.
MAKING SOUND MATTER
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Post by: constantpressure on October 02, 2010, 05:41:37 AM
Magandang araw Sir Sikyo,
Hindi para sa akin ang credit na yan Sir...pero maraming salamat na rin.
regarding sa drawing...depende sa difficulty...3dCadPro, AutoCad, sketchup, 3drendering at maraming pang plugins para dumali ang buhay...hehehe
hayaan mo sa susunod na mga drawing lagyan natin ng signature ni JuanDelaCruz.
Have fun and enjoy, jojo
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Post by: Glennox on October 13, 2010, 02:34:05 PM
...Share ko lang mga bossing...galing ito kay constantpressure...i'm sure makakatulong ito sa improvement ng set-ups natin...,, :wink:
Tulad ng Dispersion angle: If we ground stack them ano ang degree ng comb filtering and Lobing? (http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p0irxbx1nIw8EDUgiXtCARJ-_YJnAofiu59zcHgE40_2w6IrtJMqrDQh3d4XD3UQkLycLPPwWjBwNP-zxam1Tgw/2x18turbostylebandpasshco5.jpg?psid=1) If we ground stack them in multiple point source what will be the group delay? (http://public.blu.livefilestore.com/y1p1O0BsWXdZm-5gozEQpdBvkOFp2DgFqdua88YRfgrmTXzL1BkWO9AZIk2Y0a45QMmzj2PV10yxoy7Gi9QrU1ldw/f11_birth8_11.gif?psid=1)
Plenty of air is being moved, but it was moving in too many directions. Sound is arriving at the listener’s location at too many different times because the pressure waves from multiple speaker sources overlapped. A practical example is analogous to throwing a stone into a pond. Even waves spread out in all directions, their energy dissipated uniformly. If they hit any object or barrier, waves are reflected back into the on coming waves causing little wavelets to disturb the even spread of waves.
If you throw a handful of gravel instead of a small stone, there will be a disturbed wave flow right from the first splash. Imagine one speaker source as the small stone and an array of speakers as the hand full of gravel. In the frequency domain, this uneven confusion of waves is called Lobing and Comb Filtering: it results in inconsistent frequency response across the coverage area. In the time domain it’s called multiple arrivals. The human ear is quite sensitive to multiple arrivals, especially in the horizontal plane, since that’s how we locate the source of sound.
Single point source. (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1psj9KaxoP2HP5F5qzDdMO4iofY7xH1gIuB7bj01MwIAFQz9F8GY3E6ejd67lp9nqrAGpMX4SLGImwNBnEqecE9OyycZOTiyKY/pond1.jpg?psid=1)
2 Point source. (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pg90sFPPO1GNGpfn8PYyzOiZa8rPj4I1-tUnu0c72b9QHAYiWE0Xzq8X-yBm1LjogrLiTAHbxo5oBfE1pI9Ah2WASBhiLomfo/pond2.jpg?psid=1)
Multi point sources. (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pF66z6tiNtsDaL5lm2_chejAFWhH29NqQmNPYNWgDj4FbzghmRwxZBB-P_9Mv4oLUIPX3pHnw55_G1hyzYudKyoPwA6CN6_I8/pond3.jpg?psid=1)
The human ear is perfectly designed to hear speech and detect the direction of a sound source due to its stereophonic nature. A sound that arrives at both ears at exactly the same time (remembering 1,100 ft per second) is right in front of you. Sound to one side will arrive at one ear slightly later than it arrives at the closest ear. This fractional time delay between arrival times is how we perceive direction. The ‘phase shift’ (time shift), caused by the differing time arrival changes the sound a little. Small cancellations take place and on a frequency graph you would see a series of deep narrow dips. This is called Comb Filtering.
EXample: Our first concert situation is an array of two full range boxes each side of the stage at an outdoor festival. It sounds like a simple situation. (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pxlfSeyIBEiLVdMjv4n63J2iWkMzdYG3SWj6ffofAlmgtwCIiwPbeg-45zjDK--P-ub8VCoOMJP1pYodrOmJCSk2aOoHF06ko/birth02_22.jpg?psid=1)
Interference Effect
We can see now that any single loudspeaker may have an even frequency response, and the sound quality of a single loudspeaker may be nothing short of hi-fidelity, but that will not be the case once arrayed. With these direct-radiator packaged speaker systems grouped in a cluster, the individual drivers cannot be positioned to minimize time delays between devices and the resulting destructive interference, cancellation and response variations. (Comb filtering). These variations are important because the coverage uniformity in the 1,000Hz to 4,000Hz range is critical for good intelligibility and uniform frequency response from 250Hz to 1,000Hz is important for natural sounding speech or music.
The empirical rule use to be, put up one box or 100 and anything between was trouble. This was found by practical experience that if you put up enough boxes, all the aberrations seemed to even out if you stood far enough away. (Too bad for the people who paid to hear and have the ‘dud’ seats. There will be plenty of them).
So let’s add more boxes to our two-box array? May be that will help. We have gone from throwing four pebbles into the pond, (two per hand full), to eight. Let’s see what happens.
In the four-box cluster of unspecified Brand-X 2-way full-range boxes, there is approximately 1 meter between the box centers, both horizontally and vertically. (That's a half wavelength at 225Hz, one wavelength at 450Hz, and two wavelengths at 900Hz). At the crossover point, where the horn and the 12" bass speaker in each box are operating at equal levels, there are a total of eight devices operating at the same level with multiple wavelength spacing between all eight sound sources. This is the offset distance vertically, horizontally and diagonally between all devices. Where the coverage of the boxes overlap, there will be significant lobing of the coverage and comb filtering caused by these physical-offset-induced signal delays. The problem is compounded by the inability of the small format high frequency horns that are used in these boxes to provide high directivity, (narrow focus), in the vertical plane above the crossover frequency. The actual vertical coverage of the horn can be well over 100 degrees (and can approach 180 degrees) at the crossover point, ensuring vertical overlap of coverage between boxes, and destructive interference and cancellation. Above the crossover point, the comb filtering will fall in the critical speech intelligibility range, and the resulting response notches are often in excess of 1/3 octave wide. (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pqfeFuS5T0VyezZpkqrV2mNTnFlX8hMdRtbFSVeV36cegMwHYSh-Vkeo2J8kAv0Af4R7Fx9wlxiX3D92xKEf8xeesodAYwR9h/f11_birth8_11.gif?psid=1) Below the crossover point, the 12" bass drivers gradually broaden their coverage angle until the boxes each become almost omni-directional. In the frequency range between 250Hz and 1000Hz, very large variations in level will be found, with the highest uniform level exactly on the centre axis of the cluster, and spurious lobes all around that centre hot spot. This produces plainly audible sound quality variations with seating position, and may produce feedback prone positions under the cluster.
Let’s Look at a Graphic Representation: (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pXVheVa7-eicE24OuOUPXfdQeP5uEiSR0l7t6eupRyEbs4bdymjh7bO8DPGhdr18ixorPvHSTX7RFyTW-r3Z-DYanY6_RoTKV/birth02_25.gif?psid=1) Wave C is now cutting across wave D out of time sync. The slight time variation (60 degrees) will mean that there is a pressure lag between the waves and they will be working against each other. It’s like a tug of war with everybody pulling at a slightly different time.
What about the fancy system controller?
The problem is related to the physical distance between individual loudspeaker components. The special signal processor/crossover that comes with some loudspeakers can only correct for time offset of the signal between the low and high frequency drivers along a single speaker system axis. The signal delay in the processor cannot adjust for every possible off-axis listening angle in a two-box array. The processor certainly can't fix the additional multiple signal delay variables thrown in by having additional boxes added to the cluster Bottom of Form So why don't you just equalize it?
Consider the system equalizer that is intended to improve the quality of the sound. All four loudspeakers are connected to the same signal chain, so any change in equalization will affect all four speakers. Which of these frequency response curves would you correct for? A couple of the seats are not too bad, a couple of them (including the house mix position!) are very poor. If you tried to correct the bumps and dips in one location, you would actually be making them worse in other areas.
This is really a non-equalizable problem caused by physical distance offset of all the drivers (this is what is known as a non-minimum phase problem caused by a significant signal delay). Even though the loudspeakers are designed to be arrayed horizontally, there is no way to get around the physical offset problem vertically with small packaged two way direct-radiator systems. There are no delays or equalizers that will fix this problem (until someone develops a four dimensional signal processor).
What if We Try a Different Type of Horizontal Array? (http://8qrsag.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pwa6AfFO-sjPa24HyfjqViAOQINWnuvUwMV4tWbuX9qanQkT0w6GeNRfMbo9Lr3bVhMWid_c4q5V_f8YHIHoyGAf2fGV35Fjo/2x18turbostylebandpasshco5.jpg?psid=1)
In this particular configuration, the comb filters and peaks are most severe below the crossover point, where there are three 12" loudspeakers and horns widely arrayed. The 12" speakers cannot be positioned to minimize the interference between them because the boxes are pre-configured with a horn and top end with differing dispersion. By the time you get the high-frequency horns pointed where they have to be pointed, the woofers are typically in the worst possible relationship to each other. The laws of physics and inappropriate box selection triumph every time. In fact in this particular instance, the only available correction would be turning off two of the centre box. This would of course result in a sonic hole between the boxes but the Lobing would be much less.
The reason for the extra boxes was not enough SPL to cover the distance. With all the losses and cancellations, severe EQ and headroom loss, we really have not progressed from the smaller array as far as sonic performance is concerned. Remember the dB scale and the human ear? For a slight increase in perceived volume, we must add 3dB, (double the power). So we need a lot more boxes to make a difference.
Don't get fooled, by ‘everybody knows’ generalisations and simplistic solutions.
Just because something appears to be popular, does not mean that it is good. Many of these small rock and roll speaker rigs sound very impressive, when demonstrated with a CD of pre-recorded music. Most listeners are much more forgiving of response variations when listening to music. If you're listening to a system intended for speech or complex music reinforcement, insist that it be demonstrated with a live microphone in the room at real world volume levels.
Is there reasonable gain before feedback? If the speaker system is hung above the microphone, are there bass lobes aimed at the microphone position that will induce feedback? Above all else, is the voice going to make it to the back of a crowded noisy room?
Some compact boxes may sound a bit ‘in your face’ when tested in a shop or small room. This could be because the mid range is very present. Many self-powered speaker systems have been pre-equalized to sound ‘nice’ but you will need those midrange frequencies back again if you want to project clear vocals to the back of the room. For a speaker box designer, those midrange frequencies are the hardest thing to get right because the crossover into the horn is often right in the middle of the midrange. Getting vocals right is the hardest thing because it is the only thing everybody agrees must be there and is use to hearing. This especially applies when you're buying a speech reinforcement system, listen for how well it delivers the speech intelligibility your audience needs and don't get fooled by marketing and technical hype.
Next time you have to put up an array of boxes, familiarise yourself with speakerbox array behaviour with the following tests: - Time delays simulated and real (phase shift):
Set up a two-channel array together with a digital delay on one channel. Show with pink noise sonic variations with a few milliseconds variations between boxes. Also dB output variations on one box and array behaviour. - Polarity cancellation:
Hear polarity reversal on one channel electronically and acoustically. Especially try reversing the phase on one element of top end. The image will shift radically. Remember this sound and you will become the worlds best monitor engineer by spotting out of phase wedges instantly. Physical alignment vertically and horizontally
Put up a poorly aligned array and test with pink noise. Move the boxes into a theoretically less conflicting alignment. Walk around and look for lobes and null points.
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Post by: spacejam on December 14, 2010, 09:00:19 PM
Mga sir lap it na 2011 dinagyang, I am sure naghahanda na mga sound system sa paupers dyan. Ano USO ngayon sa Iloilo ?
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Post by: barracks01 on December 15, 2010, 06:02:35 AM
pag may time ako makabakasyon sa sister in law ko sa manduriao, sa mga taga iloilo kailan ba ang dinagyang sa iloilo ung exact date? gusto ko ma experience yong mga ga higanteng speakers sa tabi ng daan.
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Post by: Xelly on December 15, 2010, 03:18:11 PM
January 23 ata bro. :-D
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Post by: mikep on December 15, 2010, 04:50:15 PM
..Share ko lang mga bossing...galing ito kay constantpressure...i'm sure makakatulong ito sa improvement ng set-ups natin...,, wink
Very nice article. This is indeed very true. I just attended several SynAudCon seminars recently and sound reinforcement speaker array configuration was given emphasis in the design portion. A big part of the discussions were on speaker arrangements, selections, arraying, lobing, speaker to amp matching and others that, if incorrectly done, results to bad or "distorted" sound. If we truly want to improve our sound system knowledge, it is but proper to try to study and understand what is in this article, which can be the starting point of better knowledge on sound systems for each and everyone. The net is filled with information that can help us in this endeavor also. It is good for Xelly to share this article.
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Post by: Glennox on December 16, 2010, 11:08:47 AM
Let me tell you sumtin from the past....why ilonggos are music lover!!! at mahilig sa bayli/sayawan!!
The Dinagyang is a religious and cultural festival in Iloilo City, Philippines held on the fourth Sunday of January, or right after the Sinulog In Cebu and the Ati-Atihan in Aklan. It is held both to honor the Santo Niño and to celebrate the arrival on Panay of Malay settlers and the subsequent selling of the island to them by the Atis.
In the beginning, The Confradia patterned the celebration on the Ati-atihan of Ibajay, Aklan, where natives dance in the streets, their bodies covered with soot and ashes, to simulate the Atis dancing to celebrate the sale of Panay. It was these tribal groups who were the prototype of the present festival.
The Dinagyang is divided into three Major events: Ati-Ati Street Dancing, Kasadyahan Street Dancing and Miss Dinagyang.
Today, the main part of the festival consists of a number of "tribes", called "tribus", who are supposed to be Ati tribe members dancing in celebration.
and so on naging modern na ung street dancing ginamitan na ng makabagong teknolohiya at nauso na ung laban ng sound....at di lang sa iloilo, buong Island ng Panay - Capiz, Antique, Aklan, Bacolod at guimaras ay maraming mga sound set ups din..
...Malapit na nga ito mga bossing...More power to IC...,, :wink:
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Post by: gribox on December 16, 2010, 02:25:01 PM
VIVA SENIOR STO. NINO!!!
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Post by: Xelly on December 16, 2010, 03:16:12 PM
Meron na battle 18 Live 18" 6" voice coil sa master fix sa roan. Nakadisplay dun sa store. Double magnet !!! Sanaa may aka demo sa dinagyang :-D
Sana bro you can post some pics :-) :-) I am just wondering if increasing the size of the voice coil like this new Live18 with 6" voice coil will translate to higher SPL and better response? And does having a double magnet matter to the speaker's over-all performance :? :?
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Post by: spacejam on December 18, 2010, 10:21:54 AM
Sana bro you can post some pics :-) :-) I am just wondering if increasing the size of the voice coil like this new Live18 with 6" voice coil will translate to higher SPL and better response? And does having a double magnet matter to the speaker's over-all performance :? :?
Hi paano ba mag attach ng picture ?
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Post by: Glennox on December 19, 2010, 12:22:15 AM
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Post by: mr. ultimate on December 19, 2010, 01:42:06 PM
Hindi yan bago ng live mas malaki ang magnet mas malaki ang voice coil 6"
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Post by: mr. ultimate on December 19, 2010, 01:46:07 PM
Yan yung pinaka mura nila sa double magnet mas malalakas ang mga bagong labas nila double magnet din pero ang bibigat! Yung pinaka bago nila 18" na double magnet 6" voice coil 36 kilo ang isa
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Post by: luffy on December 19, 2010, 02:07:14 PM
Yan yung pinaka mura nila sa double magnet mas malalakas ang mga bagong labas nila double magnet din pero ang bibigat! Yung pinaka bago nila 18" na double magnet 6" voice coil 36 kilo ang isa
may bago po pala. how about the price? picture, or the speaker parameters :-(?
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Post by: spacejam on December 19, 2010, 03:25:14 PM
17500 srp sa master fix and sa raygin meron sa raon. Meron ako pictures pero di ko ma post 6" voice coil. Sila nag first na gumawang 18" 6" voice coil. Meron na rin sa Iloilo yung battle 18. Yung 18 1000 pa po benta po nila sa roan 5k+ Lang pang entry level 4" in out voice coil. Matibay yun and malakas po tumunog. Pwede po ba turuan nyo po ako Kung paano I post picture
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Post by: barracks01 on December 19, 2010, 07:13:06 PM
17500 srp sa master fix and sa raygin meron sa raon. Meron ako pictures pero di ko ma post 6" voice coil. Sila nag first na gumawang 18" 6" voice coil. Meron na rin sa Iloilo yung battle 18. Yung 18 1000 pa po benta po nila sa roan 5k+ Lang pang entry level 4" in out voice coil. Matibay yun and malakas po tumunog. Pwede po ba turuan nyo po ako Kung paano I post picture
pre send mo sa akin pic ng LIVE. ito email add ko, strobeinternet@yahoo.com ako na mag attached para makita ng lahat
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Post by: Max_C on December 19, 2010, 08:39:32 PM
17500 srp sa master fix and sa raygin meron sa raon. Meron ako pictures pero di ko ma post 6" voice coil. Sila nag first na gumawang 18" 6" voice coil. Meron na rin sa Iloilo yung battle 18. Yung 18 1000 pa po benta po nila sa roan 5k+ Lang pang entry level 4" in out voice coil. Matibay yun and malakas po tumunog. Pwede po ba turuan nyo po ako Kung paano I post picture
Brad ano ba ang specs nitong bagong LIVE 18 na 6" ang voice coil? May Thiele-small parameters ba ito? Ang nakikita ko kasi mga branded na 18" ay hanggang 5" voice coil lang sila pero kumpleto naman sa engineering data. Pinag-aaralan mabuti nila ang sukat. Ako kasi brad lagi kong naririnig sa mga vendors ay "MALAKAS YAN, MATIBAY YAN, MALAKAS YAN, ETC ETC." Yung lang ang akin napupuna lalo na kung may bagong labas na speaker.
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Post by: Glennox on December 20, 2010, 01:10:29 PM
Inside Battle Amps 76pcs output power transistor 16pcs caps 15,000 uf each cap 100v power supply 30amps 80v dc 4 blow fan termal control (http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx175/super5digital/securedownload1.jpg)
Fet 2000 1000W 8ohms 2000w 4 ohms Each channel 12 fet power trasistor and 16 power trasistor toshiba 12 caps 15,000uf each 100V 20 amps power supply 70v dc Copy same as crest audio
Fet 2000 1000W 8ohms 2000w 4 ohms Each channel 12 fet power trasistor and 16 power trasistor toshiba 12 caps 15,000uf each 100V 20 amps power supply 70v dc Copy same as crest audio
ay ganun sayang.. anyway street dancing bro mayron pa?
of course sir di mawawala yan...ok last year pero di ako sanay pag street dancing dun.... daming lalaki nagsenyas kung gusto ko sumayaw... wala naman malisya,,,,kung maganda babae siguro yun nagyaya eh baka nagsikuhan pa kami ng mga barkada ko magunahan hahaha actually enjoy talaga masaya lahat ng tao sumasayaw... meron rin every year na taong grasa na sa harap ng RGL sumasayaw sa tapat ng Days hotel.... kumusta kaya ang RGL ilan kaya subwoofer boxes ilalabas nya this uear... parang last year 40+ this year kaya.... may makaka beat kaya kay RGL this year? sila pa rin pinaka sikat sa buong iloilo....
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Post by: barracks01 on January 14, 2011, 10:40:06 PM
di ba ang RGL ie yong may Lexus na amplifier? hehehe. last time ang gusto tumonog ay ang 5 brothers. Ganda ng mga equiptment nila. Buhay pa ba ang 5 brothers? Di ba sila ang may mga crown MA series na amp at JBL sub? i forgot na ei last 2009 pa ako naka experience ng dinagyang.
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Post by: spacejam on January 14, 2011, 11:41:34 PM
di ba ang RGL ie yong may Lexus na amplifier? hehehe. last time ang gusto tumonog ay ang 5 brothers. Ganda ng mga equiptment nila. Buhay pa ba ang 5 brothers? Di ba sila ang may mga crown MA series na amp at JBL sub? i forgot na ei last 2009 pa ako naka experience ng dinagyang.
yes puro branded mga equipments ng 5 brotheres sir... quality ang tunog nila...pero kilalang kila dyan ang RGL sir.... sila ang hari sa iloilo pag dating sa sound...daming mga tao nakikinig pag sa RGL ang nag battle.... sa totoo lang sir di ko nakayanan tumayo sa gitna ng set up ng rgl.... hirap makahinga sa sobra lakas ng bass... katabi naman nila j force. na pinagkaguluhan naman ang martin style na box gamit ang sub 21 ng Live... ang lupit ng bass.... iba talaga pag 4 na box magkadikit na style martin... quality ang bass... sino kaya champion ngayon sa Dinagyang this year.... next week na po.... i heard na may battle last jan 15... sino kaya nanalo?
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Post by: lighttech on January 23, 2011, 02:00:12 PM
battle na ngayon.. any running tally of casualties? :-D magkakaubusan kaya ng VCs sa iloilo. :-D
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Post by: mr. ultimate on January 25, 2011, 12:44:11 AM
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Iloilo dinagyang 2011
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Post by: mr. ultimate on January 25, 2011, 05:38:27 PM
part 2
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Post by: mr. ultimate on January 26, 2011, 08:52:15 PM
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Post by: mr. ultimate on January 26, 2011, 11:18:37 PM
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Post by: mr. ultimate on January 29, 2011, 11:14:22 PM
sir barracks ito yung tinatanong mo kung may na sunog bang mga speaker sa iloilo
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Post by: barracks01 on January 30, 2011, 05:39:21 AM
feature=relmfu LINDOL SA CALINOG, ILOILO PHILIPPINES 2012
Thumbs Up!
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Post by: Xelly on February 28, 2012, 10:04:07 AM
Miss ko na Iloilo guid!!! :-D
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Post by: Live Pro Audio on April 14, 2012, 09:30:12 AM
Battle of the sounds in Iloilo Leganes
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Post by: Live Pro Audio on April 15, 2012, 08:07:48 PM
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Post by: John233 on May 18, 2012, 05:30:57 PM
Mlakas tlaga ang sound sa iloilo pero sabi nga hobby lng nla wla sila kinikita..hehehe china made nga try nyo qsc or crown by harman. Lightweight yan..di na kyo mahirap an mag buhat..heheh
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Post by: spacejam on May 19, 2012, 03:37:09 PM
Kulamg sa lakas Ang qsc and crown amps... Sound quality maganda naman sila pero di sila bagay sa Taga iloiLo ... Kulang sa bigat at diin ang bass nya...
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Post by: spacejam on May 31, 2012, 08:28:48 AM
Battle sa passi Iloilo. Tinalo ng sound standard Ang big 3 ng Iloilo.
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Post by: mants on May 31, 2012, 12:02:22 PM
Kulamg sa lakas Ang qsc and crown amps... Sound quality maganda naman sila pero di sila bagay sa Taga iloiLo ... Kulang sa bigat at diin ang bass nya...
Which QSC and Crown amps? I presume you're talking about entry level QSC and Crown amps.
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Post by: spacejam on June 01, 2012, 08:10:40 AM
Which QSC and Crown amps? I presume you're talking about entry level QSC and Crown amps.
No sir Kung pansinin nyo sir konti Lang gamagamit ng branded amps sa subs ng mga aga Iloilo... Sa mga hi and mid gumagamit sila ng qsc and crown... Pero pag sa bass...china amps gamit nila. Sa quality and clarity maganda branded amps like qsc and crown amps pero for Iloilo kulang sa punch and laki Ang bass nila... Heard na from some mobile using crown MA 5002vz sa battle.... Di po pinapansin ng mga tao yun
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Post by: d2wrd on June 01, 2012, 04:46:37 PM
talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering
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Post by: barracks01 on June 01, 2012, 04:59:15 PM
iba talaga ang tunog ng branded na amplifier.. tight bass, crisp mid and high. sa iloilo palakasan ng bass para matumba ang bote :drool:
nung nag setup si walter sa iloilo during asap rocks lahat sila nakanganga,....... jbl line array, crown amps, rcf, venue digital mixer. LED lights
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Post by: d2wrd on June 01, 2012, 05:02:32 PM
talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering
Cant say that on youtube :). Kakatayin ka nila doon :-D I noticed that quite a few in there cant take constructive critisism once you made a slight negative comment which I think a complete ignorance and arrogance
Heard Crown VZ5000 driving 4 full scoops loaded with Fane1000 with no problem at all (Absoulute chest thumping and trouser flapping) :) If the VZ5000 cant spank 4 speakers their must be a problem with the sound engineer or technician :-D Also heard QSC PL9.0 driving 4 scoops (2ohms) on one side PD1850 loaded and thought that was the best Sub I'ved heard from a lightweight amp. :-D
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Post by: wave180 on June 02, 2012, 02:00:59 AM
I rather use the tried and tested MA5002VZ than those China (copy cat) amps. If you can't get good results driving subs with that amp, then there's something wrong somewhere from the tech to the sub/s.
After seeing those youtube videos, I found out that they're mostly using those outdated CV folded horns.
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Post by: ermita on June 02, 2012, 05:28:30 AM
I rather use the tried and tested MA5002VZ than those China (copy cat) amps. If you can't get good results driving subs with that amp, then there's something wrong somewhere from the tech to the sub/s.
After seeing those youtube videos, I found out that they're mostly using those outdated CV folded horns.
Loud, very loud, very very loud, Yes!... considering the amount of CV horns or boxes in a stack :-o. Those CV horns are loud but not deep enough. A simple reflex box loaded with the same driver will blow it away in terms of deepness and musicality.
Seen a few comment in there about phase cancellation, comb filtering regarding stacking also and I dont think they were happy to know all about it :-( :-D
Honestly, if they after only loudest, heaviest, deepest and quality at the same time they should consider building proper SUB boxes not BASS boxes (Tapped horn, double reflex or even scoops). Also correct amount of Kick boxes and tops and yes stacking correctly could make a difference too :) in terms of sound. I think the amount of boxes in use now are really getting OTT. 4 to 6 good sub boxes and with a good kicks and tops loaded properly is enough to cover a basketball court. And I'm really surprised that hardly anyone use Stereo when stacking considering the amount of boxes :roll:
I'm sure theres a better way to settle this Sound off or Battle rather than fetching truck loads of boxes :-D.
By the way I'm from Iloilo also :oops: :oops: :oops: :-D
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Post by: spacejam on June 02, 2012, 09:41:11 AM
talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering
sir may kasabihan the customer is always right... yung mga nakikinig ay nag rent sa kanila ng sound system pag may fiesta or birthdays... so kung nagugustuhan nila ang sounds mo.. tiyak marami ka bookings...
author=barracks01 link=topic=188604.msg3656894#msg3656894 date=1338541155] iba talaga ang tunog ng branded na amplifier.. tight bass, crisp mid and high. sa iloilo palakasan ng bass para matumba ang bote :drool:
nung nag setup si walter sa iloilo during asap rocks lahat sila nakanganga,....... jbl line array, crown amps, rcf, venue digital mixer. LED lights
sir ganun lang talaga ang mga ilongo... mahilig sa sounds... pero i dont think "namulat sila sa katotohanan" kasi same pa rin ang gusto nila sounds hangang ngayon... palakasan ng bass... Di sila naghahanap ng deep bass... Gusto nila chest Thumping.. Which causes shortness of breath... Di pwede sa may sakit sa puso :-o also sa mga main livelihoodcay sa mobile sa Manila? I don't think na kakayanin nyo... Because may fear na masira ear drums nyo. :) alam naman natin Ang paraan ng Kira sa mobile ay sa sharpness ng hearing natin. im sure sir i pa battle mo ang LPs 2500 baka wala pa isang oras sira na yun :-D pang drive lang nila siguro sa tweeter yan :)
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Post by: spacejam on June 02, 2012, 09:48:53 AM
Cant say that on youtube :). Kakatayin ka nila doon :-D I noticed that quite a few in there cant take constructive critisism once you made a slight negative comment which I think a complete ignorance and arrogance
Heard Crown VZ5000 driving 4 full scoops loaded with Fane1000 with no problem at all (Absoulute chest thumping and trouser flapping) :) If the VZ5000 cant spank 4 speakers their must be a problem with the sound engineer or technician :-D Also heard QSC PL9.0 driving 4 scoops (2ohms) on one side PD1850 loaded and thought that was the best Sub I'ved heard from a lightweight amp. :-D
sir the reason i think they dont use the branded amps for subs is because they are designed to drive 4" voice coil speakers... if you notice almost all of the branded speakers are 4" voice coil... while in iloilo they are using 5" and 6" voice coil... so it is harder to drive hence the reason why they are using the china amps... they seldom use fane, b&c or p.audio... not because of the price tag... because i notice they will buy it if it fits their needs even if it is a little bit expensive. but because it does not produce the sound output they are looking for.
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Post by: spacejam on June 02, 2012, 07:05:44 PM
talagang hindi napapansin yung Amps kasi ang pinapansin ng tao ay yung sound output. besides most of them (audience) are non-technical people in sound engineering
curious Lang ako sir... Sa average na audience sa setup ninyo... Ilan ba ang "non technical" people? Also ano definition nyo na "non technical people"? Kelangan ba may degree po ba sila sa sound engineering? Curious Lang po.
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Post by: ermita on June 02, 2012, 09:20:21 PM
Cant say that on youtube :). Kakatayin ka nila doon :-D I noticed that quite a few in there cant take constructive critisism once you made a slight negative comment which I think a complete ignorance and arrogance
Heard Crown VZ5000 driving 4 full scoops loaded with Fane1000 with no problem at all (Absoulute chest thumping and trouser flapping) :) If the VZ5000 cant spank 4 speakers their must be a problem with the sound engineer or technician :-D Also heard QSC PL9.0 driving 4 scoops (2ohms) on one side PD1850 loaded and thought that was the best Sub I'ved heard from a lightweight amp. :-D
sir the reason i think they dont use the branded amps for subs is because they are designed to drive 4" voice coil speakers... if you notice almost all of the branded speakers are 4" voice coil... while in iloilo they are using 5" and 6" voice coil... so it is harder to drive hence the reason why they are using the china amps... they seldom use fane, b&c or p.audio... not because of the price tag... because i notice they will buy it if it fits their needs even if it is a little bit expensive. but because it does not produce the sound output they are looking for.
Not denying that some chinese amps are better than some branded amps here :-D. But for some reason branded amps are only or mostly designed to drive 4" voice coil is not true :-o. The most common drivers I'ved seen branded amps driving are also 5" voice coil (PD1850/51, VOID V1000/1200, Turbomax and Celestion CF18VJD all with real watts :-)) with no lack in power given the right power supply.
Also noticed the most common type of music being played on this Battle or PAUPAS are hard dance or techno type tunes or remixes (loop type) which I highly doubt that they produce sub 30-40Hz plus content on them. So yes, your quite right in saying that they only like chest thumping bass line which are only above Sub frequencies and not real Sub frequencies kasi if they are set for Sub frequencies or Cabs are build for sub duties and playing 30hz + freq I dont think they'll be able to stand right at the very front of a single stack/mini sound let alone on the 16-24 bass cabs. :) But then again baka nga sanay na talaga ang mga eardrum at dibdib nila :).
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Post by: barracks01 on June 03, 2012, 07:14:53 AM
sir ganun lang talaga ang mga ilongo... mahilig sa sounds... pero i dont think "namulat sila sa katotohanan" kasi same pa rin ang gusto nila sounds hangang ngayon... palakasan ng bass... Di sila naghahanap ng deep bass... Gusto nila chest Thumping.. Which causes shortness of breath... Di pwede sa may sakit sa puso :-o also sa mga main livelihoodcay sa mobile sa Manila? I don't think na kakayanin nyo... Because may fear na masira ear drums nyo. :) alam naman natin Ang paraan ng Kira sa mobile ay sa sharpness ng hearing natin. im sure sir i pa battle mo ang LPs 2500 baka wala pa isang oras sira na yun :-D pang drive lang nila siguro sa tweeter yan :)
i dont think na lahat na ilonggos gusto ng ganyang sounds. mantakin mo gusto mo di ka makahinga, gusto mo sirain eardrum mo. they created noise pollution not a good qaulity sounds. LPS 2500 i pang battle mo lang sirain mo lang ang 17k worth of amp. for a nothing.. they are very rich. :roll:
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Post by: spacejam on June 03, 2012, 02:30:39 PM
Not denying that some chinese amps are better than some branded amps here :-D. But for some reason branded amps are only or mostly designed to drive 4" voice coil is not true :-o. The most common drivers I'ved seen branded amps driving are also 5" voice coil (PD1850/51, VOID V1000/1200, Turbomax and Celestion CF18VJD all with real watts :-)) with no lack in power given the right power supply.
Also noticed the most common type of music being played on this Battle or PAUPAS are hard dance or techno type tunes or remixes (loop type) which I highly doubt that they produce sub 30-40Hz plus content on them. So yes, your quite right in saying that they only like chest thumping bass line which are only above Sub frequencies and not real Sub frequencies kasi if they are set for Sub frequencies or Cabs are build for sub duties and playing 30hz + freq I dont think they'll be able to stand right at the very front of a single stack/mini sound let alone on the 16-24 bass cabs. :) But then again baka nga sanay na talaga ang mga eardrum at dibdib nila :).
Sir I heard sa abroad especially sa states and Europe. 1 speaker per channel samantalang dito sa battle either 2 pcs speakers per channel or 1 pc speaker per channel pag bridge mode... Tsaka pag sa abroad maingat sila di pinupula ang ilaw ng amp samantalang sa Iloilo ay normal na pulahin Ang ilaw for ilang oras ng amp pag may battle lalo na sa dinagyang.
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Post by: spacejam on June 03, 2012, 02:34:25 PM
i dont think na lahat na ilonggos gusto ng ganyang sounds. mantakin mo gusto mo di ka makahinga, gusto mo sirain eardrum mo. they created noise pollution not a good qaulity sounds. LPS 2500 i pang battle mo lang sirain mo lang ang 17k worth of amp. for a nothing.. they are very rich. :roll:
Sir mahilig Lang sila sa sounds. May mobile naman na naghahandle sa mga concert dyan tulad nina VJS, audio equipment and audio force. Yun talaga sound quality and clarity ang basehan...
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Post by: ermita on June 03, 2012, 11:02:53 PM
Sir I heard sa abroad especially sa states and Europe. 1 speaker per channel samantalang dito sa battle either 2 pcs speakers per channel or 1 pc speaker per channel pag bridge mode... Tsaka pag sa abroad maingat sila di pinupula ang ilaw ng amp samantalang sa Iloilo ay normal na pulahin Ang ilaw for ilang oras ng amp pag may battle lalo na sa dinagyang.
Hi, I dont know who or where you get that information from. But I can confirm and guarantee you that most of the guys here in London commonly use 2 speakers each side ng amp o 4ohms pati na rin ako :). Others might run 3 each side but very few people run 4 speakers(2ohms) which I dont blame them also. The most common Sound System I hear dito is mostly Rootikal Sound o mga Reggae Sound System which for me isa sa mga matitindi pagdating sa Bassline.
Thats is also quite true na a few here nga maingat pagadating sa monitoring ng amp. They do run it also to Red pero signal lang hindi solid red :) which even you will probably agree na hindi naman kailangan papulahin ang ilaw if you giving enough power already ang iyong mga speaker. Kasi if you have headroom on your amps hindi mo naman kailangan talaga kasi makakaya ng amp i drive sila. Tsaka you will hardly get to RED if you set up correctly your gains from your mixer, processors and amps :roll:.
I'm sure na diyan sa Iloilo they can let this happen kasi commonly naman sa atin dyan mostly sound technician o mga operator lang ang normally nag ooperate ng system hence kahit mamula they dont really care kasi kahit masira hindi naman sa kanila. Again, I could be wrong pero siguro wala namang system owner na every Battle/Paupas may mga damage sila di ba.
Here's my friend Alf or LIGWA demonstrating couple of his scoop. Apologise in advance music might not really your thing.
Another example from another friend here....1 x CROWN MA-5000VZ powering 4 full scoops Fane1000 loaded. Again distortion is from my crappy phone camera.
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Post by: gribox on August 24, 2012, 07:02:40 PM
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Post by: kartar on November 13, 2012, 09:11:58 PM
^ hindi makita yung mga link mo Sir.
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Post by: alghanold on November 14, 2012, 05:14:17 AM
biggest PA i ever seen dto ko nakta sa kuwait, mga around 50 line array tower cguro distributed along the seaside of kuwait city about 5 km. dto naganap yn biggest fireworks in history last saturday.
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Post by: spacejam on November 14, 2012, 07:12:17 AM
Mayroon kaya a YouTube yan sir?
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Post by: alghanold on November 14, 2012, 02:44:11 PM
oo myrun search nyo kuwait guinness world record fireworks display