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Offline glynminded

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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2007, 09:57:29 PM »
If you want an almost DW sound.... try PDP... very similar and a lot cheaper... ehehe... joey pasado ako lahat! nice awawaw!
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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2007, 10:38:07 PM »
gusto ko sila pareho, depende sa mood ko... pero mas hinahanap ko talaga tinog ng kahoy
wag mo problemahin ang problema, hayaan mong problema mamroblema sayo!!!!!

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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2007, 01:08:51 AM »
for me type kong tunog at masarap pakinggan ung mga picolo snares' ung wood ha' ika nga ni sir dio na' pag wood produce warmer sound pag metal produce brighter sound'

i choose a wood and metal snare na picolo'

la lang.. it's up on you bro' :mrgreen:
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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2007, 01:48:20 AM »
@glyn .. onga e .. pdp ..

@glyn .. haha ako din pasado lahat .. graduate na ko next term .. haha sana palarin ..

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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #29 on: July 01, 2007, 07:35:45 PM »
ako  eversince wood snares talaga ako....mas gusto ko yung warm kesa bright...pero steel snares din are good...i tried a pearl sensitone (tama ba?? :lol:) na 14x6 and i liked it din..it sounded wood to me...kasi ang naging problem ng iba kong kakilala na may steel shell...is nayuyupi yung shell...i dont know lang kung bakit....pero advice ko sayo..ask youre drummer friends na may wood or steel snares na pa test drive sayo para marinig mo rin mismo kung ano yung hanap mo  :-D


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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2007, 07:39:59 PM »
yup!Go marco.. tol alvin to.,. sa ust..
hehe.. dame ko na natest drive na snares ni marco.. hehe..
ung piccolo's nya.. hehe.. halata namang di xia mahilig sa
wood e dahil puro wood ung mga snare na nakkwento
niya sakin.. hehe.. di ba?
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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2007, 08:53:28 PM »
@marco .. onga e..hehe..hirap din talaga mag decide lalo na kung based sa mga research and opinions lang e..iba parin ang personal test drive..

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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2007, 12:01:15 AM »
@ harugrugrug - ayos lang ako idol..eto walang togs kasi nagpapagaling..sa psba ako nagaaral!! ano na balita??

@razeljoey - kung malapit ka lang sa katipunan..pwede tayo magmeet sa studio..patext drive ko snare ko sayo :mrgreen: para mas madalian ka na:) tapos sharing na din tayo :-)

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Re: Wood vs. Metal Snares
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2007, 12:16:05 AM »
@marco .. ayos yan..maybe siguro next week..pm me ur number para contact kita..

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How does Beech, Oak and Ash sound as drum shells?
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2007, 03:33:56 PM »
How does Beech, Oak and Ash sound as drum shells? :?
« Last Edit: May 19, 2008, 06:04:03 PM by drumster »

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Re: How does Beech, Oak and Ash sound as drum shells?
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2007, 03:51:59 PM »
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Re: How does Beech, Oak and Ash sound as drum shells?
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2007, 04:03:08 PM »
As described by Yamaha Drums:

"Beech has the attack and presence of maple and the bottom-end punch of birch. Beech Custom Absolute has the best of both worlds and is the most versatile woods available."

"Oak shells offer tone that is at once loud, sensitive, ringing, clear and vibrant."



And according to Gretsch:

"Ash wood produces a lively tone that projects a clear, cutting sound."

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Re: How does Beech, Oak and Ash sound as drum shells?
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2007, 06:23:16 AM »
AFAIK:

oak = mellow sounding, mas buhay ng konti sa birch
birch = low end...ideal for rock
maple = buhay na buhay!  :lol: best sounding wood (for me)
as for beech wood...di ko pa alam kung nakasubok nako nun eh..

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What's the difference in sound between wood & acrylic shells?
« Reply #39 on: November 09, 2007, 11:20:30 PM »
Mga sir, what's the difference in sound between 10"wood & 10"acrylic tom shells?

planning to have an extra 10" tom.

thanks :-)
« Last Edit: November 10, 2007, 05:46:30 AM by drumster »

Offline drumster

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Re: What's the difference in sound between wood & acrylic shells?
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2007, 05:50:29 AM »
As a general thought, wood-shelled drums sound warm, while acrylic-shelled drums sound bright and have more volume.

But it can still boil down to several factors, such as shell design, shell construction, shell composition, bearing edges, hardware used, etc etc and so forth.

Offline wax_static

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Re: What's the difference in sound between wood & acrylic shells?
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2007, 11:07:07 PM »
Sir Dio is right. Unless you have the exactly the same snare (e.g. size, depth, heads, bearing edges etc.) can you only compare the sound characteristics between the material the shell is made from.
IMO acrylic is somewhere in the middle of wood and steel in terms of brightness..  :wink:

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Re: What's the difference in sound between wood & acrylic shells?
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2007, 03:29:24 AM »
korek kayo dyan.
i personally prefer a wooden snare kaso mas
matibay mga steel snare lalu na kung nasa rock band ka.
some damping techniques can almost recreate a wooden
snare sound though using a steel snare drum.

Offline deriru

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maple snares vs steel snares
« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2007, 10:38:27 AM »
anu po ba ang mas maganda na tunog??
para sakin mas mganda ung steel kse medyo bouncy....
ang hindi marunong lumingon sa pinanggalingan ay mas mabaho pa sa malansang isda

Offline drumster

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Re: maple snares vs steel snares
« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2007, 10:56:21 AM »
I think both shells have their distinct sonic characters. Both are good actually.  It all boils down to personal preference & if it will sound good with a particular song or style of music.

Maple is known for its warm sound, and is currently an industry standard.  Steel is known for its brightness and projection.

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Re: maple snares vs steel snares
« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2007, 11:08:46 AM »
Mod i think meron na expanded na ganitong topic. But i think it says wood vs. steel snares....


*Thanks for the tip, bro daemonite!  Deriru's topic merged with the Wood vs. Metal Snares thread.

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Offline tipsyboy

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Questions on wood
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2008, 12:40:42 PM »
I'm not sure if there's already been a past thread on this topic, but what do different kinds of wood commonly used for drums sound like?
Pag nagtatanong kasi ako, iba-iba sagot nakukuha ko e. For example, "ano ba tunog ng maple?"-"ah, warm and mellow yan." Pero minsan, "ah, matapang yan, malakas ang hi-end." Which is it really?
And that goes for other wood types. What does Birch sound like? What does Mahogany sound like? How do they differ?
Thanks guys!

Offline gammapolaris

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Re: Questions on wood
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2008, 03:20:54 PM »
On Mahogany:

Ringo used to play drums made with African Mahogany (first from Premiere then from Ludwig) during the early Beatles years, African Mahogany has a fat sound and I would make sure I will get one drumkit made of it before I die. Pearl has a master series made out of African Mahogany (is it MHX series??)

The beginner drumkits  Tanguile, Red Lauan, White Lauan, Tiaong, Almon, Mayapis, and Bagtikan are all refered to as Philippine Mahogany.   Usually ito yung ginagamit sa mga drumsets price range na 50K or less... kasi mas mura ang Phil. mahogany.  this type doesn't sound that bad... if the manufacturer did a good job with the shell and you are not that particular pagdating sa tunog then it will do.  malaki ang difference ng manufacturing process sa tunog ng drumset... some of the cheap fernandos, lazer, premiere, etc. have cracks sa holes for the lugs(yung butas para sa screws), you will not see this flaw on branded starter kits. to check, silipin mo yung loob ng shell... the better kits have no such cracks. if it is cracked, you might break it easily after a couple of months.

African Mahogany is the softest among the best woods used in drums (the others are birch and maple). the softer the wood, the lower it's tone.  this is why the drum track "ticket to ride" sounds so good.  a beatles trivia: the distinctive drum pattern of ticket to ride is paul's (not ringo's) source: http://oldies.about.com/od/thebeatlessongs/a/tickettoride.htm

so if you want the sound of the earlier Beatles recordings then get an African Mahogany kit. If you like the sound of the later records like "Come Together" (another signature drumlick) then get a maple kit.

i think most of the drummers out there are using maple already... it will be cool to get a different wood like African Mahogany or Birch for a change. (I'm getting a Sonor Birch snare).
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About Fiberglass Shells?
« Reply #48 on: May 18, 2008, 03:31:57 AM »
ask ko lang po...ano po pinagkaiba ng tunog ng fiberglass na material of the shell sa metal, brass, wood na commonly used...marami na kasi ako nakikitang mga fiberglass na binibenta sa classifieds pati na rin po yung acrylic...just curious...thanks xP

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Difference of a Brass and Hammered Brass Snare..
« Reply #49 on: June 12, 2008, 12:27:46 AM »
Difference of a Brass and Hammered Brass Snare..

in terms of sound quality?
kahit observations lang.. :lol: tnx!



*Topic merged with related thread.

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