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The Music Forums => Jazz and Blues Cafe => Topic started by: juanito on February 15, 2014, 01:24:25 PM
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sa pananaw ko lng po. hehe...
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sa pananaw ko lng po. hehe...
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so kung gusto ko mag blues kahit ibat ibang genre ang kaya ko tug tugin, bawal? WTF :lol:
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I agree :)
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sa pananaw ko lng po. hehe...
mali yung pananaw mo fafa
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expression and execution must goes hand in hand... a powerful duo in music
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disagree ako tol.
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Sir kayo po, inborn po ba ang pagiging bluesero niyo?
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ang totoong mangmang, inborn... lalo na pag hindi naturuan at napakain ng iodized salt.
:lol:
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Sadness can't be inborn right? Being bluesero takes experience. Kaya bihira lang sa bata ang magaling agad mag-blues.
Opinion ko dalawa yan, blues or bluesy licks are either sad or sexy.
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Ngumunguso
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Oh sige, sabi mo eh.
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judgemental naman..though may ibang nagblue-blues na medyo di ko ramdam pagkablues niya.usually sila madaming alam na licks at mga tabs at riffs..pero walang soul..if you get me..
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Di ako agree kay TS :) Piz ..
Damdamin ang isang susi sa pag tugtog ng blues.. Kahit sino pwede matuto ng blues o pwedeng maging "Bluesero" kasi lahat naman tayo merong damdamin ..
Elyen po ba?
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Dapat bago mag blues isang tao dumaan muna classical :) kasi jan nag simula ang lahat :) at may tamang pag play ng lick na alam nyo at riff in a way of dissonance and consonance note hehehe
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Dapat bago mag blues isang tao dumaan muna classical :) kasi jan nag simula ang lahat :) at may tamang pag play ng lick na alam nyo at riff in a way of dissonance and consonance note hehehe
pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians. zzzzz
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pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians. zzzzz
totoo to, ako personaly ramdam ko kung theory at aral based yung blues..mas gusto ko yung blues na talagang struggle, at ramdam mo yung hirap ng buhay..kahit sabit sabit at mali mali..mas gusto ko yung ganung blues kesa sa mga technical na nag aral note per note..
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pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians. zzzzz
totoo to, hindi kailangan master mo lahat, example: legato, appregio, mixolydian etc etc. Pentatonics lang ang uso noon sa mga bluesero, tanungin mo man ang mga negrong blues legends, for sure tatawanan ka lang nila, look at B.B King, tipa-tipa lang at feel, basta tugma sa song keys. Bakit si Yngwie master lahat ng modes pero hindi bluesero aber? :wink:
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TS. pano ka makakapagblues kung di ka marunong magplay ng music per se? lakad, magblues ka habang new born.
Para sakin, ang techniques to do blues pinagaaralan. yung proper note selection at feeling, yan. yan na yung nakukuha sa experiences. inborn sige, kung born ka sa hirap at sadness. pero hindi yung tipong sanggol ka palang eh yung iyak mo nasa blues pentatonic.
pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians. zzzzz
totally agree. pati sa sinabi ni gandy. ramdam mo sa player pag ang blues niya is heavily backed lang ng theory, or talagang may sadness or experiences behind it.
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parang yung pelikula ni Johnny delgado.. UOD AT ROSAS
may isang tropa sa art circle nila na na out cast..kasi talagang kahit nakapagtapos siya, at alam ang mga painting techniques..sinabihan siya ng mga circle of friends niya na "HINDI TALAGA SIYA ARTIST." ayun nagpakamatay sa sama ng loob..
If you read Ayn Rand...THE FOUNTAINHEAD
Yung mga bluesero na hindi tunay na bluesero ay kapareho ni PETER KEATING...
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ibig sabihin walang karapatan maging successor, si Steve Jobs kasi hindi siya nakapag tapos o nakapag-aral? :lol:
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sa pananaw ko lng po. hehe...
kung totoo yan, dapat ba black (african american)? haha
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ang totoong mangmang, inborn... lalo na pag hindi naturuan at napakain ng iodized salt.
:lol:
HAHAHAHA! +1000
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sa pananaw ko lng po. hehe...
have you seen your occulist recently? :wink:
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ganto lang yan, pag gusto mo at naramdaman mong para sayo bakit hindi mo gawen dba? ang tunay na musician walang pinipiling music sa totoo lang, lahat binabanatan, basta easy at chill lang tyo mga pre, feel the music, jam jam para masaya, sabay sindi para solve. :-D
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
may sample vid ka? patingin naman para Makita namin skill mo sa blues!
pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians. zzzzz
san mo nakuha yung figure na 80%?
sino sinong mga legends ang sinasabi mong di nag aral mag blues? or sinong sikat na blues player? kasama dun sa 80%?
AUGUST RUSH?
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OK sige idedelete ko na yung DVD ko na Blues Guitar for Absolute Beginners <_<
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OK sige idedelete ko na yung DVD ko na Blues Guitar for Absolute Beginners <_<
wag! akin nalang di naman ako totoong bluesero, so kailangan ko pagaralan :-D
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wag! akin nalang di naman ako totoong bluesero, so kailangan ko pagaralan :-D
kasama ka ba sa 80% ha?
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kasama ka ba sa 80% ha?
papunta palang :-D
pero mukhang di papasa sa TOTOONG BLUESERO kasi pinagaaralan ko pa :-P
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OK sige idedelete ko na yung DVD ko na Blues Guitar for Absolute Beginners <_<
tara mag metulz nalang teyo para astiggggg! :razz:
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tara mag metulz nalang teyo para astiggggg! :razz:
+1 :-D
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Vibrato! Yung swabe at hindi pinuwersa
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Ayos 'tong thread na 'to ah. :) haha :)
Ano kayang sign na bluesero ka napanganak? May mga balat ba sila?
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Sobrang galing siguro ng mga The Smurfs.
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Sobrang galing siguro ng mga The Smurfs.
Kaya siguro gusto sila ni Gargamel :lol:
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Kaya siguro gusto sila ni Gargamelhaha
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ganong kaintense siguro yung TOANZ nila?
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asan na sample vid ni TS?
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Update lang natin,gusto ko Ipamythbusters tong Sinabi niya,hehe
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
may sample vid ka? patingin naman para Makita namin skill mo sa blues!
san mo nakuha yung figure na 80%?
sino sinong mga legends ang sinasabi mong di nag aral mag blues? or sinong sikat na blues player? kasama dun sa 80%?
AUGUST RUSH?
Eric Clapton, Make sense? tsaka FYI - Fictional Character si August Rush pre hindi Blues Player.
ang napansin ko lang, may mali sa subject kaya kagulo tong thread na to e, ang ibig ko sabihin, hindi mo kelangan pumasok sa music school at matutong magbasa nang music sheet at magaral nang bars and notes para matuto mag blues, pag aaralan mo pa rin, pero kaya mong mag isa, like Clapton, records of current years lang ang pnapakinggan nya, tenga lang, pero ano sya ngaun? again, make sense?
FRETBOARD ung sinabe mo sinabe ko na non. kaya tumigil ka na tahan na ha? hahaha :idea:
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Eric Clapton, Make sense? tsaka FYI - Fictional Character si August Rush pre hindi Blues Player.
ang napansin ko lang, may mali sa subject kaya kagulo tong thread na to e, ang ibig ko sabihin, hindi mo kelangan pumasok sa music school at matutong magbasa nang music sheet at magaral nang bars and notes para matuto mag blues, pag aaralan mo pa rin, pero kaya mong mag isa, like Clapton, records of current years lang ang pnapakinggan nya, tenga lang, pero ano sya ngaun? again, make sense?
Lahat naman pwede matuto ng kahit anong form of music nang hindi nag-music school, baka mas mahirap lang compared sa mas more melodic forms of music like blues.
Actually, interesting na marami na akong nakausap at nabasa na gusto nila i-point out na hindi na kailangan mag-music school para maging [genre] musician. Dahil ba gusto niyo ng validation sa hindi niyo pagpasok sa music school? Or nadadayaan kayo sa eskwelahan? Or nasasayangan ka ba sa tuition fee?
Hindi ako nag-music school, pero naiinggit ako sa mga dumaan sa school - mas marami silang alam, mapa-blues man, rock, jazz, or pop. Mas practical rin sa music scene, lalo na kapag marunong mag-arrange at magsulat para sa mga kasama sa banda. At nung nag-aral rin ako magbasa ng notation, mas marami akong nakukuha ngayon na ideas sa net dahil dito, at mas mabilis pa akong natututo. Para sa akin lang naman, baka naman minsan mas nalilito nga yung iba sa tamang pag-aaral na nakakasira na sa musika.
Also, lahat naman may exceptions - hindi naman lahat ay kasing galing ni Clapton or BB King or Robert Johnson nung bata sila.
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asan na yung 80% na tinatanong ko? san mo nakuha yun?
Eric Clapton, Make sense? tsaka FYI - Fictional Character si August Rush pre hindi Blues Player.
hahaha kaya ko nga sample si august rush! dahil sa thread title! FICTIONAL!
, pag aaralan mo pa rin
WORD!
shall I change the font and color?
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asan na yung 80% na tinatanong ko? san mo nakuha yun?
hahaha kaya ko nga sample si august rush! dahil sa thread title! FICTIONAL!
WORD!
shall I change the font and color?
I agree with you bro at dagdag lang.
If you looked at his statement,it's inborn.
Hindi pinagaralan,if you listened Clapton,Stevie Ray,bb king on your own.
You would still listen to it and emulate the guy your listening to,so that's studying.
You don't have a guide of a teacher,but you are still trying to learn it on your own.
That's studying,the advantage of musically and formally trained is you know where to start
And less trial and error,but nobody's born with it.
To be frank ts statement is so bold but can't defend it
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I agree with you bro at dagdag lang.
If you looked at his statement,it's inborn.
Hindi pinagaralan,if you listened Clapton,Stevie Ray,bb king on your own.
You would still listen to it and emulate the guy your listening to,so that's studying.
You don't have a guide of a teacher,but you are still trying to learn it on your own.
That's studying,the advantage of musically and formally trained is you know where to start
And less trial and error,but nobody's born with it.
To be frank ts statement is so bold but can't defend it
tama ka dyan!
pag gamit nga ng kutsara nung bata pa tayo tinuro satin at inaral natin
BLUES PA KAYA!
re: ERIC CLAPTON
pinagaralan nya po yung mga ginagawa nya ngayon!
pano yung?
1 day naglalakad si eric Clapton sa kanto TINIO then EUREKA! I will play blues!!!
then nag perfom na sya sa mga bars, nag record ng mga best selling LPs ng walang kahirap hirap!
INBORN E! di pinagaaralan!
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I woke up one day, and i became a bluesman without knowing any theory about it, just experiment with it and unlock the power of feel in you.
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tama ka dyan!
pag gamit nga ng kutsara nung bata pa tayo tinuro satin at inaral natin
BLUES PA KAYA!
re: ERIC CLAPTON
pinagaralan nya po yung mga ginagawa nya ngayon!
pano yung?
1 day naglalakad si eric Clapton sa kanto TINIO then EUREKA! I will play blues!!!
then nag perfom na sya sa mga bars, nag record ng mga best selling LPs ng walang kahirap hirap!
INBORN E! di pinagaaralan!
Haha! Mismo,o kaya is bb king nagshot lang sa isang kanto,then ayun! Blues master na Siya!
Nobody would become a blues master on just a snap,when you master something it takes a lifetime to learn it,quote ni Steve smith sa perception niya about music in general,he doesn't consider himself a master to it,but he said I'm an eternal student till I die.unless na lang na ala orochimaru Ka na gusto mo Malaman Lahat.hehe
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Lahat naman pwede matuto ng kahit anong form of music nang hindi nag-music school, baka mas mahirap lang compared sa mas more melodic forms of music like blues.
Actually, interesting na marami na akong nakausap at nabasa na gusto nila i-point out na hindi na kailangan mag-music school para maging [genre] musician. Dahil ba gusto niyo ng validation sa hindi niyo pagpasok sa music school? Or nadadayaan kayo sa eskwelahan? Or nasasayangan ka ba sa tuition fee?
Hindi ako nag-music school, pero naiinggit ako sa mga dumaan sa school - mas marami silang alam, mapa-blues man, rock, jazz, or pop. Mas practical rin sa music scene, lalo na kapag marunong mag-arrange at magsulat para sa mga kasama sa banda. At nung nag-aral rin ako magbasa ng notation, mas marami akong nakukuha ngayon na ideas sa net dahil dito, at mas mabilis pa akong natututo. Para sa akin lang naman, baka naman minsan mas nalilito nga yung iba sa tamang pag-aaral na nakakasira na sa musika.
Also, lahat naman may exceptions - hindi naman lahat ay kasing galing ni Clapton or BB King or Robert Johnson nung bata sila.
Totally agree with this. laking difference parin ng may formal lessons sa wala. nagkakataon lang talaga na one in a blue moon, nagkakaroon ng mga katulad ni BB King. Pero more often than not, the guy with the formal lesson usually has the advatage.
And i'm a guy na hindi naglessons. so no bias. kita ko lang talaga na mas may advantage sila.
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self taught, self study ---> kahit walang formal education sa music
ang point e nag aral parin.
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eto lang naman ang tanong, kung may time and kakayanan ka na mag-aral (formally), why not?
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eto lang naman ang tanong, kung may time and kakayanan ka na mag-aral (formally), why not?
yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako
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yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako
Agreed :( sana nakapaglessons ako nung totoy pa :(
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yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako
ngayon ba? pikpik na? :-D
jk bro!
Agreed :( sana nakapaglessons ako nung totoy pa :(
ngayon ba NENE ka na brad? I mean sis? I mean bro? :lol:
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^ahhahaha.
may classes ba na ganyan? for "not really beginners but not an expert" hahha
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ngayon ba? pikpik na? :-D
jk bro!
ngayon ba NENE ka na brad? I mean sis? I mean bro? :lol:
bwahahahahahaha! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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ngayon ba? pikpik na? :-D
jk bro!
hahaha yeah.
Back to blues, wala na akong alam i cover na blues song, dahil puro experiment licks nalang, sa totoo lang, wala naman talagang perfect bluesero, dahil puro improvise lang ang mga ito, look at hendrix, hindi niya na masyado inuulit mga ibang licks niya, dahil iniimprovise niya ang mga ito, favorite and iconic lick niya ay yung paulit-ulit na nasa key of Em. Maraming klase ng blues, hindi lang naman Traditional blues, meron ding Texas Blues, Modern Chicago Blues, Blues Rock etc, pero lahat ng yan nabuo lang ng imahinasyon at inspirasyon noong panahon. Ang Blues sa karamihan ng tao ngayon ay kinikilalang, Genre pang matanda :-\ nakakainis na nakakatawa isipin pero totoo. Every true guitarist must know any of the blues.
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^ panoorin mo si sir DELTA SLIM (taga philmusic din sya)
mga blues licks nya orgasmic, but the music is really really sad!
slides!
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sa province namin may nakausap ako (1st and last time na nameet ko siya, a friend of a friend of a friend), casual kwentuhan lang habang may hawak na gitara. sabi ba naman "sino ba naman tang@ ang hindi marunong magblues?".
arrrggghhhh!
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yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako
There is no such thing as huli na,May mga nAging students ako na lola at loll na,it's just the budget issues,if you want to take school formally I suggest look for a good teacher, research and save up to take couple of lessons,maybe around a dozen then your good to goal,just tell him your goal.
They Are no modules modules to take and levels,if you got your teachers concept and philosophy and polishing up the technique,then you are good to go.
Just to give a you a little background,I invested a dozen of lessons with one of the drum greats senior mar,god he gave a lesson of lifetime,still studying it right now,how to zero in when playing,breathing, practical chops that could sound different but it's just coming from one concept.still learning from that till today,there are no such thing as late paps,
Sorry sa ot
Batt na. :eek:
May realization ako ngayon,nagpapasta ako ngipin at nagpagawa ng Salamin!
From that experience I just learned that the standard blues progression is twelve bars in tonic,sub dominant,dominant and tonic form.hehe,I guess it's not just inborn.haha
Not just any guitarist, any instrumentalist must learn blues,I'm a drummer,and it's good to hear the progression of the guitar or piano,not just counting bars.
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feeling Blue na yata si TS, di na nakasagot eh :lol:
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feeling Blue na yata si TS, di na nakasagot eh :lol:
Maybe he is conducting a scientific research to back up his statement. :idea:
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eric Clapton science
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freakish blues.. sabi nga ni Jimi. (ayon sa pagkakarinig ko sa BBC sessions) ahaha
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tama ka dyan!
pag gamit nga ng kutsara nung bata pa tayo tinuro satin at inaral natin
BLUES PA KAYA!
re: ERIC CLAPTON
pinagaralan nya po yung mga ginagawa nya ngayon!
pano yung?
1 day naglalakad si eric Clapton sa kanto TINIO then EUREKA! I will play blues!!!
then nag perfom na sya sa mga bars, nag record ng mga best selling LPs ng walang kahirap hirap!
INBORN E! di pinagaaralan!
wag mo i-literal, uu hindi ka naman matututong mag music nang hindi mo pag aaralan, ang point ko si Sir Clapton hindi pumasok sa kahit anong school para pag aralan ang blues, pinakinggan nya lang, tenga at kamay ang ginamit, hindi libro at lecture, hindi sya sa kanto TINIO nag punta para kumuha nang kaalaman, sa chicago pre, konting source din bago mambasag.
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Lahat naman pwede matuto ng kahit anong form of music nang hindi nag-music school, baka mas mahirap lang compared sa mas more melodic forms of music like blues.
Actually, interesting na marami na akong nakausap at nabasa na gusto nila i-point out na hindi na kailangan mag-music school para maging [genre] musician. Dahil ba gusto niyo ng validation sa hindi niyo pagpasok sa music school? Or nadadayaan kayo sa eskwelahan? Or nasasayangan ka ba sa tuition fee?
Hindi ako nag-music school, pero naiinggit ako sa mga dumaan sa school - mas marami silang alam, mapa-blues man, rock, jazz, or pop. Mas practical rin sa music scene, lalo na kapag marunong mag-arrange at magsulat para sa mga kasama sa banda. At nung nag-aral rin ako magbasa ng notation, mas marami akong nakukuha ngayon na ideas sa net dahil dito, at mas mabilis pa akong natututo. Para sa akin lang naman, baka naman minsan mas nalilito nga yung iba sa tamang pag-aaral na nakakasira na sa musika.
Also, lahat naman may exceptions - hindi naman lahat ay kasing galing ni Clapton or BB King or Robert Johnson nung bata sila.
ano bang tingin mo kay clapton? magaling agad nung bata pa lang? madami syang pinagdaanan bro bago sya gumaling, actually sumama pa sa sya sa mga black people nung panahon pa nang slavery para lang matuto kahit alam nyang delekado, pero the rest ok na, at least alam kong nag kaintindihan na tayo.
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ano bang tingin mo kay clapton? magaling agad nung bata pa lang? madami syang pinagdaanan bro bago sya gumaling, actually sumama pa sa sya sa mga black people nung panahon pa nang slavery para lang matuto kahit alam nyang delekado, pero the rest ok na, at least alam kong nag kaintindihan na tayo.
Citation please. Slaves ha. Hindi discrimination. But slavery.
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wag mo i-literal, uu hindi ka naman matututong mag music nang hindi mo pag aaralan, ang point ko si Sir Clapton hindi pumasok sa kahit anong school para pag aralan ang blues, pinakinggan nya lang, tenga at kamay ang ginamit, hindi libro at lecture, hindi sya sa kanto TINIO nag punta para kumuha nang kaalaman, sa chicago pre, konting source din bago mambasag.
Chicago? Oh It seems you forgot that he already established a name in England among the emerging R&B musicians around '63,there he first earned the moniker "Slowhands". I don't seem to recall him going to Chicago first to acquire knowledge of the blues.
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Chicago? Oh It seems you forgot that he already established a name in England among the emerging R&B musicians around '63,there he first earned the moniker "Slowhands". I don't seem to recall him going to Chicago first to acquire knowledge of the blues.
uu nag punta syang chicago at the age of 14 para kumuha at maghalungkat nang mga chords, dahil na din sa lack of sources nung panahong yon. sinabe nya un sa isang interview before a tribute concert na hindi ko na maalala.
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Citation please. Slaves ha. Hindi discrimination. But slavery.
??? - be open minded lang sana Sir, even the african american people aware dto, hindi to discrimination, pnapaliwanag ko na even nung years of slavery nagawang sumama ni Clapton sa mga black people para mag aral nang blues, kahit delekado. sinasabe ko ung Times nang earlier 19th century not to offend someone under discrimination.
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ano bang tingin mo kay clapton? magaling agad nung bata pa lang? madami syang pinagdaanan bro bago sya gumaling, actually sumama pa sa sya sa mga black people nung panahon pa nang slavery para lang matuto kahit alam nyang delekado, pero the rest ok na, at least alam kong nag kaintindihan na tayo.
Check your statement bro, the ts above said its inborn,what we are all pointing out it's not inborn,you have to learn by widow or formal school,we are NOT taking literally the statement but to who started the topic said its inborn. You see we added some HUMOR to it, but the fact that we have some idea how to be a good or great musician contradicts to the statement of ts above. You have the point as well,it's our point as well. You said it yourself,it's from experience etc. it's also what we said we just added some humor called sarcasm,if you can't detect it. Just to make it clear bro.
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ngayon ba? pikpik na? :-D
jk bro!
ngayon ba NENE ka na brad? I mean sis? I mean bro? :lol:
Opo 'teh. HAHAHAHAHA
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wag mo i-literal, uu hindi ka naman matututong mag music nang hindi mo pag aaralan, ang point ko si Sir Clapton hindi pumasok sa kahit anong school para pag aralan ang blues, pinakinggan nya lang, tenga at kamay ang ginamit, hindi libro at lecture, hindi sya sa kanto TINIO nag punta para kumuha nang kaalaman, sa chicago pre, konting source din bago mambasag.
CHICAGO BA? hahaha sino LITERAL NGAYON?
diba nasa RICHMOND and Kingston sya? nung teen years nya? busker nya sya dun e diba?
uu nag punta syang chicago at the age of 14 para kumuha at maghalungkat nang mga chords, dahil na din sa lack of sources nung panahong yon. sinabe nya un sa isang interview before a tribute concert na hindi ko na maalala.
best selling naba mga records nya sa edad na katorse?
ayan o statement mo na yan! naghalungkat ng chords, bakit? pambalot ng tinapa? hindi!!! PARA PAGARALAN!
pano natin ihahandle tong discussion --> Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
backread ka
self taught, self study ---> kahit walang formal education sa music
ang point e nag aral parin.
kahit ikaw STATEMENT mo e, magaaral parin diba?
e ano ba kasi pinupunto mo?
malinaw naman ang point ko na PAGAARALAN PARIN, not necessarily formal education.
ilang percent ba ng mga kilalang musikero ang may formal education sa music?
natuto lang ako mag compose, mag improve etc dahil sa aid ng chord chart, scale table,songhits and magazines at sa mga jam mates ko. PERO WALA KO FORMAL EDUCATION sa music.
paanong WAG I-LITERAL? paano ba dapat? and linaw ng thread title
ERIC CLAPTON? totoong bluesero, inborn, hindi nya pinagaralan ang ginagawa nya ngayon? <--- ganyan dapat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton
http://www.ericclapton.com/eric-clapton-biography?page=0%2C0
http://www.preceden.com/timelines/477-clapton
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-clapton-9249026#musical-start&awesm=~oDrxrGmFLQgQNm
http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/biography/biography-eric-clapton
<--- wala ako binabasag!
experience is the best teacher <-- inaral parin kaya nagka experience! anube!
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lakas tama 'nyeta
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CHICAGO BA? hahaha sino LITERAL NGAYON?
diba nasa RICHMOND and Kingston sya? nung teen years nya? busker nya sya dun e diba?
best selling naba mga records nya sa edad na katorse?
ayan o statement mo na yan! naghalungkat ng chords, bakit? pambalot ng tinapa? hindi!!! PARA PAGARALAN!
pano natin ihahandle tong discussion --> Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
backread ka
kahit ikaw STATEMENT mo e, magaaral parin diba?
e ano ba kasi pinupunto mo?
malinaw naman ang point ko na PAGAARALAN PARIN, not necessarily formal education.
ilang percent ba ng mga kilalang musikero ang may formal education sa music?
natuto lang ako mag compose, mag improve etc dahil sa aid ng chord chart, scale table,songhits and magazines at sa mga jam mates ko. PERO WALA KO FORMAL EDUCATION sa music.
paanong WAG I-LITERAL? paano ba dapat? and linaw ng thread title
ERIC CLAPTON? totoong bluesero, inborn, hindi nya pinagaralan ang ginagawa nya ngayon? <--- ganyan dapat?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton
http://www.ericclapton.com/eric-clapton-biography?page=0%2C0
http://www.preceden.com/timelines/477-clapton
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-clapton-9249026#musical-start&awesm=~oDrxrGmFLQgQNm
http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/biography/biography-eric-clapton
<--- wala ako binabasag!
experience is the best teacher <-- inaral parin kaya nagka experience! anube!
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yung pagiging Multi-Instrumentalist nyo, Inborn din ba? or pinag aralan?
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Sino ba ang nakakaalam ng 10 greatest bluesero of all time? kung mas marami ang walang formal education eh panalo si ts. :)
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Sino ba ang nakakaalam ng 10 greatest bluesero of all time? kung mas marami ang walang formal education eh panalo si ts. :)
Ang pinaguusapan dito eh kung inborn ba daw ang blues talent. no need to self study or to take formal lessons.
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Ang pinaguusapan dito eh kung inborn ba daw ang blues talent. no need to self study or to take formal lessons.
alam kung tama ka...ang mali lang siguro ay yung pagkakaintindi ko kay ts na di na kailangan ng formal lesson para maging isang magaling na bluesero..peace :)
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Inborn - Exist from the time of birth.
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Inborn - Exist from the time of birth.
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??? - be open minded lang sana Sir, even the african american people aware dto, hindi to discrimination, pnapaliwanag ko na even nung years of slavery nagawang sumama ni Clapton sa mga black people para mag aral nang blues, kahit delekado. sinasabe ko ung Times nang earlier 19th century not to offend someone under discrimination.
I'm asking you to provide info na sumama sya sa mga African Americans during the time of slavery. Because the African Americans were emancipated in 1863. So legally, wala ng slaves nung panahon ni Clapton.
What am I getting into? Be precise, back-up your statements. Making sweeping statements like the thread title would get you nowhere. Mabubutasan ang arguments mo.
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Every true guitarist must know any of the blues.
+1 to this. Naalala ko yung sinabi ni Marty Friedman sa Melodic Control na kahit gaano ka pa ka metulz you have to know even a little of Blues. IMO para magka starting point ang isang gitarista when it comes to learning or during actual improvisation. And another thing is maybe dahil madali rin kasi gamitin ang "Blues Scale", which is a pentatonic scale with added blue notes. Konti lang kailangan aralin, makakagawa ka na agad ng funky music.
Regarding sa statement ni TS, maybe ang naging basis ng kanyang argument ay, for a person to be identified as a true Blues artist, yung mga Blues licks, riffs and melodies ay dapat readily available sa kanya once he learns how to play any kind of instrument and without having to hear a Blues song. Di na kailangan ng kahit konting fiddling, noodling and doodling para malaman niya yung Blue notes, Blues progressions and turn-arounds. Siguro sinasabi niya na kailangan mo ng Blues genes para ma consider ka as TOTOONG BLUESERO. ^-^ In short kailangan maging ganito ka:
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uu nag punta syang chicago at the age of 14 para kumuha at maghalungkat nang mga chords, dahil na din sa lack of sources nung panahong yon. sinabe nya un sa isang interview before a tribute concert na hindi ko na maalala.
Wow,never heard of that though, but as far as I remembered he received his first guitar at the age of 13. So I guess Clapton was really innate with the blues for him to seek guidance in a foreign land by that age. :x
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Wow,never heard of that though, but as far as I remembered he received his first guitar at the age of 13. So I guess Clapton was really innate with the blues for him to seek guidance in a foreign land by that age. :x
He's first Guitar is an acoustic hoyer Guitar, he received it as a birth day gift for his thirteenth birth day. pero nag simula sya mag blues at the age of 15. after a year (16) dun na sya nag travel kung saan saan para maexplore ang mundo nang blues, busking around along Richmond, London, Chicago, Kingston, West End, etc., and when he reached 17, he joined his first band The Roosters pero na disband din un nung taong un, after eight months, dun na pumasok sila Keith Relf and Paul Smith na nabuo as Yardbirds, then tuloy tuloy na ang pagkaadik nya sa blues hanggang kay George Harrison at hanggang ngayon.
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I'm asking you to provide info na sumama sya sa mga African Americans during the time of slavery. Because the African Americans were emancipated in 1863. So legally, wala ng slaves nung panahon ni Clapton.
What am I getting into? Be precise, back-up your statements. Making sweeping statements like the thread title would get you nowhere. Mabubutasan ang arguments mo.
earlier of 19th century, slavery starts in the year of 1920 ends 1981 with an average of 8%, tinapos nalang ung documentaries kasi banishing na, natapos kasi ung slavery nang 1865 na may 254,000 numbers, and that is 80.3% Sir. Well, nung sinabi un ni Clapton sa interview hindi na ko nag halungkat, hindi naman siguro sya mag sisinungaling.
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+1 to this. Naalala ko yung sinabi ni Marty Friedman sa Melodic Control na kahit gaano ka pa ka metulz you have to know even a little of Blues. IMO para magka starting point ang isang gitarista when it comes to learning or during actual improvisation. And another thing is maybe dahil madali rin kasi gamitin ang "Blues Scale", which is a pentatonic scale with added blue notes. Konti lang kailangan aralin, makakagawa ka na agad ng funky music.
Regarding sa statement ni TS, maybe ang naging basis ng kanyang argument ay, for a person to be identified as a true Blues artist, yung mga Blues licks, riffs and melodies ay dapat readily available sa kanya once he learns how to play any kind of instrument and without having to hear a Blues song. Di na kailangan ng kahit konting fiddling, noodling and doodling para malaman niya yung Blue notes, Blues progressions and turn-arounds. Siguro sinasabi niya na kailangan mo ng Blues genes para ma consider ka as TOTOONG BLUESERO. ^-^ In short kailangan maging ganito ka:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
+1 hehe, nung nag attend ako ng guitar clinic ni kiko loureiro ditto sa KL, may comment din sya "bakit kapag impromptu jams dapat blues? well maybe that's the place where we all belong.
actually kuha naman ng lahat ang point ni TS :-D
ang medyo sumabit lang e yung word na " hindi pinag aaralan"
kaya dun umikot ang discussion instead na sa PASSION SA BLUES!
kung babasahin din natin mga posts ni toshi_joovshin , same POV parin naman satin , na technical lang sya dahil sa eric Clapton comment nya,
which I think went out of bounds dahil kahit sa mga statements nya
nakalagay dun na nagaral parin si mr.clapton, hanap ng chords, went to different places to LEARN some more! so nagaral parin diba?
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+1 hehe, nung nag attend ako ng guitar clinic ni kiko loureiro ditto sa KL, may comment din sya "bakit kapag impromptu jams dapat blues? well maybe that's the place where we all belong.
actually kuha naman ng lahat ang point ni TS :-D
ang medyo sumabit lang e yung word na " hindi pinag aaralan"
kaya dun umikot ang discussion instead na sa PASSION SA BLUES!
kung babasahin din natin mga posts ni toshi_joovshin , same POV parin naman satin , na technical lang sya dahil sa eric Clapton comment nya,
which I think went out of bounds dahil kahit sa mga statements nya
nakalagay dun na nagaral parin si mr.clapton, hanap ng chords, went to different places to LEARN some more! so nagaral parin diba?
Mejo mahilig lang talaga siya sa numbers na hindi mo alam kung san niya nakuha. pero i get the point though. hahahaha
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^ 80%? di ko parin alam saan galing yun
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He's first Guitar is an acoustic hoyer Guitar, he received it as a birth day gift for his thirteenth birth day. pero nag simula sya mag blues at the age of 15. after a year (16) dun na sya nag travel kung saan saan para maexplore ang mundo nang blues, busking around along Richmond, London, Chicago, Kingston, West End, etc., and when he reached 17, he joined his first band The Roosters pero na disband din un nung taong un, after eight months, dun na pumasok sila Keith Relf and Paul Smith na nabuo as Yardbirds, then tuloy tuloy na ang pagkaadik nya sa blues hanggang kay George Harrison at hanggang ngayon.
So what happened with his journey to chicago when he was 14??? :x
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So what happened with his journey to chicago when he was 14??? :x
not 14, 16. puro black american ang nag guide sa knya dun. that's what happen.
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^,ipunin mo ung lahat nang blues player or marunong magblues na kilala mo, tas himayin mo kung sino ung mga hindi pumasok sa school para matuto mag blues, makakabuo ka nang 80% o higit pa.
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not 14, 16. puro black american ang nag guide sa knya dun. that's what happen.
Should I believe you? You seem to say that with conviction...but then again you've also said this:
uu nag punta syang chicago at the age of 14 para kumuha at maghalungkat nang mga chords, dahil na din sa lack of sources nung panahong yon. sinabe nya un sa isang interview before a tribute concert na hindi ko na maalala.
oh spare my small brain,that's too much history.
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Should I believe you? You seem to say that with conviction...but then again you've also said this:
oh spare my small brain,that's too much history.
not 14, 16, my bad typo lang, pero 16 years old sya nag simulang gumala hindi 14, yan ang totoong alam at sagot ko. tsaka ang side ko lang naman lahat nang tao pwedeng mag blues, like Clapton na sinabe ko nga at humaba na nang ganto ung usapan na hindi ko alam kung baket kelangan kong magpaliwanag nang todo, well, hindi sya gifted, matyaga lang tlga sya.
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satan: hindi totoo yan.chenes lang yang inborn chorva na yan. si robert johnson nakiapag-eb sa akin noon sa crossroads at may dalang gitara. ang siste, sa akin pa ipina-tono yung guitur. itinono ko naman at made sure na tama ang bawat nota. i played him some tasty licks tapos nakipag-bargain na in exchange for his soul magiging magaling siyang bluesero. bago siya madami na ding nakipag-meetup sa akin sa crossroads. kaya tigilan niyo ako sa mga inborn-inborn na yan ha.
>:D
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^,ipunin mo ung lahat nang blues player or marunong magblues na kilala mo, tas himayin mo kung sino ung mga hindi pumasok sa school para matuto mag blues, makakabuo ka nang 80% o higit pa.
san mo nakuha yung 80%?
tsaka kanino ba galing yung 80% bakit kailangan ako magipon? ikaw yung nagbibigay ng FIGURES and PERSONA kung sino ang totoong blusero e,
back up your statements! dun palang sa eric Clapton story mo sablay na, andami kong link na napost for your reference.
so conclusion mo pag di pumasok sa music school hindi na nagaral ng blues?
satan: hindi totoo yan.chenes lang yang inborn chorva na yan. si robert johnson nakiapag-eb sa akin noon sa crossroads at may dalang gitara. ang siste, sa akin pa ipina-tono yung guitur. itinono ko naman at made sure na tama ang bawat nota. i played him some tasty licks tapos nakipag-bargain na in exchange for his soul magiging magaling siyang bluesero. bago siya madami na ding nakipag-meetup sa akin sa crossroads. kaya tigilan niyo ako sa mga inborn-inborn na yan ha.
>:D
hahaha yan ang sa simula palang e pinupunto ng mga tao, meron lang di makaintindi. :-D
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hahaha yan ang sa simula palang e pinupunto ng mga tao, meron lang di makaintindi. :-D
Tomoooooooo.... Anyway bahala na Siya,magpraktis na lang ako,hehe
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satan: hindi totoo yan.chenes lang yang inborn chorva na yan. si robert johnson nakiapag-eb sa akin noon sa crossroads at may dalang gitara. ang siste, sa akin pa ipina-tono yung guitur. itinono ko naman at made sure na tama ang bawat nota. i played him some tasty licks tapos nakipag-bargain na in exchange for his soul magiging magaling siyang bluesero. bago siya madami na ding nakipag-meetup sa akin sa crossroads. kaya tigilan niyo ako sa mga inborn-inborn na yan ha.
>:D
hahaha buti nalang at i'm not into fame and magaling, kundi i don't have my soul already.
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actually kuha naman ng lahat ang point ni TS :-D
ang medyo sumabit lang e yung word na " hindi pinag aaralan"
kung babasahin din natin mga posts ni toshi_joovshin , same POV parin naman satin , na technical lang sya dahil sa eric Clapton comment nya
o ayan ayusss na pala ang lahat...bluesero ka man since birth o doctor of blues...tugtugan na. :-D
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o ayan ayusss na pala ang lahat...bluesero ka man since birth o doctor of blues...tugtugan na. :-D
hahaha after ng comment kong yan, may HIRIT parin si maestro e, mukhang kailangan ko bawiin ang statement ko :-D
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hahaha after ng comment kong yan, may HIRIT parin si maestro e, mukhang kailangan ko bawiin ang statement ko :-D
Kaya nga e,nakapagpraktis nako at lahat,haynakoooo.
Makikinig na lang ako SRV,hehe
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san mo nakuha yung 80%?
tsaka kanino ba galing yung 80% bakit kailangan ako magipon? ikaw yung nagbibigay ng FIGURES and PERSONA kung sino ang totoong blusero e,
back up your statements! dun palang sa eric Clapton story mo sablay na, andami kong link na napost for your reference.
so conclusion mo pag di pumasok sa music school hindi na nagaral ng blues?
hahaha yan ang sa simula palang e pinupunto ng mga tao, meron lang di makaintindi. :-D
80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.
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80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.
:eek: this thread seriously went way overboard
-Music is not rocket science, I think we don't have to overly justify our positions whether we went to music school or not and prove which side is better.
-Isn't it highly arrogant to say that you've learned to play the blues with just yourself,not unless you're a freaking genius,because you can't even tell you're playing the blues without someone pointing it out to you. We, as aspirants of musical knowledge are not worthy to say that we've learned on our "OWN", you can never deny the fact that you had listened,watched,and read about something that is the same material as what the folks inside the conservatory have. If you think knowledge is spoon-fed inside music schools why don't you audition for one? It's a mean world inside,you'll hate music somehow in the process.It seems that the argument of "It is not necessary to go to music school to play and be a great blues player" is just a childish affirmation to justify their skills and to separate them from the ones they think are mediocre players,that they could have an excuse for not knowing some technical things about it.
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:eek: this thread seriously went way overboard
-Music is not rocket science, I think we don't have to overly justify our positions whether we went to music school or not and prove which side is better.
-Isn't it highly arrogant to say that you've learned to play the blues with just yourself,not unless you're a freaking genius,because you can't even tell you're playing the blues without someone pointing it out to you. We, as aspirants of musical knowledge are not worthy to say that we've learned on our "OWN", you can never deny the fact that you had listened,watched,and read about something that is the same material as what the folks inside the conservatory have. If you think knowledge is spoon-fed inside music schools why don't you audition for one? It's a mean world inside,you'll hate music somehow in the process.It seems that the argument of "It is not necessary to go to music school to play and be a great blues player" is just a childish affirmation to justify their skills and to separate them from the ones they think are mediocre players,that they could have an excuse for not knowing some technical things about it.
umasa ako sa mp3 at sa tenga ko, un ang totoo, walang nagturo saken o kahit na sino, ang gusto ko lang sabihin sa post na to, hindi naman laging kelangan pumasok sa school kung gusto mong matutong mag blues, paano ung walang pera, kung meron e di good for you. -- you don't have to bash me for saying such a thing, may kanya knya tayong process kung paano matutunan ang sarili nateng music, kahit basahin mo ung unang unang reply ko sa post na to. --
rikkyricamara Quoted:
Dapat bago mag blues isang tao dumaan muna classical kasi jan nag simula ang lahat at may tamang pag play ng lick na alam nyo at riff in a way of dissonance and consonance note hehehe
eto reply ko:
pre wag mo iasa sa theory ang blues, 80% nang sikat na blues player hindi nag aral nang onance onance mo na yan. infact kung sino pa ung hindi nag aral nang mga yan sila pa ung legends at nagiging influences nang karamihang musicians.
at ngayon kahit ako nagtataka kung baket umabot na sa ganto kahaba. at tama ka pre, musician ako, hindi bluesician. sinabe ko yan para walang boundery pag dating sa music. sana Sir sinimulan mong basahin sa 1st page bago ka nagsalita nang ganyan para hindi ka din nalublob sa mantika. at sana matapos na to.
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:x I humbly apologize for every logical things I've said.
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80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.
wow EB jam :wave:
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tamang tama yan DYS Blues jam :lol:
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TS, so, may nagsabi na kailangan ng music theory, then butt-hurt ka dahil hindi ka nag-theory to learn blues. Then igegeneralize mo na hindi na kakailanganing aralin? Then iba-bash mo na yung mga nagmu-music theory?
If that is the case, you are not welcome here. Yes you can quote me on that.
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TS, so, may nagsabi na kailangan ng music theory, then butt-hurt ka dahil hindi ka nag-theory to learn blues. Then igegeneralize mo na hindi na kakailanganing aralin? Then iba-bash mo na yung mga nagmu-music theory?
If that is the case, you are not welcome here. Yes you can quote me on that.
hehe bro qroon --->juanito name ni TS :)
80% - sarili kong figures. isama mo na ko sa mga hindi pumasok sa music school pero natutong mag blues nang sarili ko lang - yan ang pinupunto ko, kung marami kang kilalang marunong mag blues pero hindi nag aral music education makakabuo ka din nyan, o mas mataas pa nga diba? - kay Mr. Clapton, kung tatanggapin mo lang yung sinabe ko okay na, kaso bubutasan mo pa e tlgang hindi tayo magkakaintindihan, at hindi tayo matatapos. diba niyayaya nga kitang mag jam? o cge kahit sa lugar mo pre, dadalhin ko lahat nang gusto kong ipaintindi sayo matpos lang to hahaha, parang dito kasi hindi tayo magkakaintindihan e.
magbibigay ka ng figure ng walang basehan? 80% asan ang stats?
eric Clapton? e binigay ko na sayo yung mga links para mabasa mo biography nya, wala ako binubutas! sadyang butas lang ang claims mo.
ano ang purpose ng jam? bakit moko niyayayang mag jam?
MY POINT!
self taught, self study ---> kahit walang formal education sa music
ang point e nag aral parin.
mag backread Karin.
ang music or blues hindi yan inborn na parang HININGA lang, na pagka panganak mo e pag binigyan ka gitara e bluesero kana na parang hininga lang.
kahit nga pagsasalita iminumulat sa mga infant to toddlers e para matuto sila sa pagsasalita. even simple tools like spoon and fork tinuturo yan at inaaral.
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di kaya si vai itech?
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ahaha walang katapusan ito!
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ahaha walang katapusan ito!
totoo yan...para matapos, na sino kayang blusero dito ang makakagawa ng classic blues ending rift, ah riff pala. :lol:
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umasa ako sa mp3 at sa tenga ko, un ang totoo, walang nagturo saken o kahit na sino, ang gusto ko lang sabihin sa post na to, hindi naman laging kelangan pumasok sa school kung gusto mong matutong mag blues, paano ung walang pera, kung meron e di good for you. -- you don't have to bash me for saying such a thing, may kanya knya tayong process kung paano matutunan ang sarili nateng music, kahit basahin mo ung unang unang reply ko sa post na to. --
rikkyricamara Quoted:
eto reply ko:
at ngayon kahit ako nagtataka kung baket umabot na sa ganto kahaba. at tama ka pre, musician ako, hindi bluesician. sinabe ko yan para walang boundery pag dating sa music. sana Sir sinimulan mong basahin sa 1st page bago ka nagsalita nang ganyan para hindi ka din nalublob sa mantika. at sana matapos na to.
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paano ung walang pera,
eto nanaman tayo eh.
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di kaya si vai itech?
:cool: hindi siguro, hindi pwedeng maging tunay na bluesero si Vai kasi tinuruan sya ni satch,tapos nagtuturo pa sya sa Berklee, Eh di ba ang tunay na bluesero inborn, hindi pinagaaralan. :idea:
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hehe bro qroon --->juanito name ni TS :)
magbibigay ka ng figure ng walang basehan? 80% asan ang stats?
eric Clapton? e binigay ko na sayo yung mga links para mabasa mo biography nya, wala ako binubutas! sadyang butas lang ang claims mo.
ano ang purpose ng jam? bakit moko niyayayang mag jam?
MY POINT!
mag backread Karin.
ang music or blues hindi yan inborn na parang HININGA lang, na pagka panganak mo e pag binigyan ka gitara e bluesero kana na parang hininga lang.
kahit nga pagsasalita iminumulat sa mga infant to toddlers e para matuto sila sa pagsasalita. even simple tools like spoon and fork tinuturo yan at inaaral.
e pinag popost mo ko nang video e, eh di jam nalang? papagurin mo pa ko e.
ung sinasabe mo sinabe ko na yan e, naniniwala naman ako sa process, pero dapat nag abugado ka nalang kung ayaw mo nang katapusang argumento. musician ka pala pero mas pinipili mong hingan ako nang video na pagpapaguran ko pa kesa sa mag jam nalang tayo mapapanis ka pa, hahaha settled na to, sabihin mo na gusto mong sabihin, bahala ka na sa buhay mo hahaha. eto po attorney -- lol
may kanya knya tayong process kung paano matutunan ang sarili nateng music
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:drool: di mo alam kung musicians ba tlga e hahaha
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TS, so, may nagsabi na kailangan ng music theory, then butt-hurt ka dahil hindi ka nag-theory to learn blues. Then igegeneralize mo na hindi na kakailanganing aralin? Then iba-bash mo na yung mga nagmu-music theory?
If that is the case, you are not welcome here. Yes you can quote me on that.
why not? presidente ka nang pilipinas para tanggalan ako nang freedom to speak or magbigay nang comments/opinion? sinabe ko "hindi lage" hindi ko sinabe "hindi" lang, nilagyan nya nang boundery ang blues nung sinabe nyang "dapat" ganto "dapat" ganyan ang pag-play, so basically mali ung gnagawa nila/namin na pag play kasi hindi namin gnagawa ung sinasabe nyang "dapat" ganto "dapat" ganyan?, kung theory lang walang problema, pero wag mong lahatin, gets? :cool:
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Eric Clapton, Make sense? tsaka FYI - Fictional Character si August Rush pre hindi Blues Player.
ang napansin ko lang, may mali sa subject kaya kagulo tong thread na to e, ang ibig ko sabihin, hindi mo kelangan pumasok sa music school at matutong magbasa nang music sheet at magaral nang bars and notes para matuto mag blues, pag aaralan mo pa rin, pero kaya mong mag isa, like Clapton, records of current years lang ang pnapakinggan nya, tenga lang, pero ano sya ngaun? again, make sense?
FRETBOARD ung sinabe mo sinabe ko na non. kaya tumigil ka na tahan na ha? hahaha :idea:
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You're fighting for freedom in stating your opinion yet you dissed someone's opinion. Oh the irony. :nosebleed:
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Jimmy Hendrix is the man!! :mrgreen:
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Anak ng! :nosebleed:
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I'm just watching. :nosebleed:
:nosebleed: :nosebleed:
Grabe na itoooo!
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toshi_joovshin
humihingi ako video dun sa kabilang thread hindi ditto OFF TOPIC KA!
pano ako makikijam sayo e malay ko kung imbento mo lang din na multi instrumentalist ka! EDI PINAGOD MO PAKO!
we're trying to educate you and yet you keep on imposing your faux claims! you haven't nearly scratch the surface!
BACK UP YOUR CLAIMS! you arrogant ultracrepidarian
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to our beloved inborn bluesero string-bending-comarde-in-arms
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you gentlemen hatin' the wrong persons, as musicians we should be lovin' each other. i've read the whole conversation and may point naman kayong lahat, give way nalang po sana sa isa't isa Sirs, let each other sides speak their thoughts freely para walang away, ayaw naman siguro natin na umabot don. My advise is if someone noticed any mistake of another just let them be, bcause eventually they'll learn from it for sure.
Tosh - I think you already said well enough, and I understand what you'r trying to fill in our heads, but before things get worst, unnotify this thread now.
Peace Love People.
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ang totoong troll inborn. kaya di nya alam troll sya.
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you gentlemen hatin' the wrong persons, as musicians we should be lovin' each other. i've read the whole conversation and may point naman kayong lahat, give way nalang po sana sa isa't isa Sirs, let each other sides speak their thoughts freely para walang away, ayaw naman siguro natin na umabot don. My advise is if someone noticed any mistake of another just let them be, bcause eventually they'll learn from it for sure.
Tosh - I think you already said well enough, and I understand what you'r trying to fill in our heads, but before things get worst, unnotify this thread now.
Peace Love People.
bagong gawang account? Just to defend yourself?
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ang totoong troll inborn. kaya di nya alam troll sya.
Nice! Anyway, both points are taken,ni respect na nag ang points,pero ayaw pa din Nung Isa,hay.
Kaka stress
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^ nagkaubusan ng popcorn ng walang lumabas na kandado :-D
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^ nagkaubusan ng popcorn ng walang lumabas na kandado :-D
Naumay ako sa popcorn,hehe,nagpipizza ako ngayon,hehe.
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blues is not inborn it is your heart's hidden feelings that suddenly you as a guitar player like blues hihi .
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blues is not inborn it is your heart's hidden feelings that suddenly you as a guitar player like blues hihi .
yeah right
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blues is not inborn it is your heart's hidden feelings that suddenly you as a guitar player like blues hihi .
This is too psychedelic to describe blues. >:D
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This is too psychedelic to describe blues. >:D
Hihihihi :wave:
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"Dare what it takes to be. Then we shall so because it is. To do or not, now or what else to be without." - Sen. Lito Lapid
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Nakakabilib ang fighting spirit niya! :D
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Play right, wag mong ibuga agad.
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Time for an off-tangent picture post. #mema
(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8qp6iG0RO1rdikr0o1_1280.jpg)
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even the word "bluesero" gives me awkward goosebumps.
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(http://www.quotesdonkey.com/quote-images/21589-arrogance-and-ignorance-go-hand-quote.png)
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bagong gawang account? Just to defend yourself?
yeah, :mrgreen: peace brother. :lol:
Peace Love People