Author Topic: Cymbal Care and Maintenance thread (Read 152599 times)

redvillain · « **Reply #425 on:** December 31, 2009, 09:48:00 PM »

habang tumatagal lalong gumaganda ung tunog? alam ko sir sa skin ng drums un eh, ang alam ko sa mga cymbals natin eh na mmaintain ung sound nila pagka inaalagaan mo sila, pero gumaganda habang tumatagal? hmmm... i suggest that you clean your cymbals regularly para kahit papano eh hindi na masakop ng todo ng green stain ung cymbals natin. and ive read a book about using metal polish sa mga cymbals and it says na hindi daw tama un. whether ur cymbal is a brilliant finish one or not it will affect ur cymbal one way or another, i dont know, visually or maybe even sa sound mismo. ingatan niyo mga sir ung investment natin ang mahal kaya ng mga cymbals hehehe.

autoexec · « **Reply #426 on:** January 02, 2010, 03:11:52 AM »

Many believes that B20s specially Ks develop it's own character when you let it by itself without cleaning it.. Yung iba pa nga daw binabaon sa lupa para mapabilis yung aging? Hindi ako makakapag comment jan dahil wala naman akong mga Ks..

omnicloud7 · « **Reply #427 on:** January 02, 2010, 04:54:53 AM »

sa pagkakaalam ko. (opinion ko a, not sure

)

habang tumatagal, yung:
Sheet Bronze -> papanget ng papanget
Cast Bronze -> paganda ng paganda

for me anyway.

redvillain · « **Reply #428 on:** January 04, 2010, 10:41:53 PM »

Quote from: autoexec on January 02, 2010, 03:11:52 AM

Many believes that B20s specially Ks develop it's own character when you let it by itself without cleaning it.. Yung iba pa nga daw binabaon sa lupa para mapabilis yung aging? Hindi ako makakapag comment jan dahil wala naman akong mga Ks..

yes yes i think this is similar to benny greb's signature cymbal the "sand ride," they sand blast the cymbal to give it its unique look and sound, the cymbal looks old but sounds like almost like a K zildjian ride or maybe even better. sa youtube sir andun sya. i personally think dry cymbals sounds great. hindi sila maingay masyado.

autoexec · « **Reply #429 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:53:43 AM »

Yep, pero nasa music pa din, siyempre hindi mawawala yung mga tugtugan na kailangan ng cymbal na "maingay masyado". Hehehe.. Ewan ko, biased ako, hindi kasi ako talaga masyadong fan ng mga dry sounding cymbals, maliban na lang sa hats..

autoexec · « **Reply #430 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:55:12 AM »

Quote from: g0d5_g1ft on December 29, 2009, 06:01:47 PM

@ rizen no hindi naman delikado basta alam mong ginagawa mo hehehe.. safer kung ung buffing pad ang ilalagay sa drill, un nga lang may chance na magkaron ng swirls ung cymbal hehehe

Kaso di ba aksaya sa buffing pad tol? Parang ang hirap ata linisin nun pag dumumi.. hehe.

peeves24 · « **Reply #431 on:** January 06, 2010, 01:18:07 PM »

nasabi ko na to noon: i dont think accumulated dirt is enough hehehe. a crappy sounding cymbal today will still sound like crap after 50 years...only dirtier.

some will argue: play your cymbals para "gumanda" yung tunog same as old, well-played guitars having mojo.

but then again i dont think gumaganda ang tunog ng cymbal, nagbabago lang ang tunog nung mga bagong labas na cymbal because they dont make them like they used to example:

parang avedis nung 90's magaganda yun compared dun sa mga lumabas ng 2000 onwards. it doesnt mean na sobrang gumanda yung tunog nung 90's version dahil sa dumi at pagpalo, zildjian just changed the way the newer models were made and the new models sucked compared to the older ones.

did you think the Ks of today were made the same way as the older 50's and 60's Ks? i dont think so.

autoexec · « **Reply #432 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:11:40 PM »

tumpak! Dapat talaga gumamit ng magandang klaseng mic, tapos yung cymbal mismo ang ikumpara sa sarili nya after 20 years of being dirty.

peeves24 · « **Reply #433 on:** January 06, 2010, 04:59:31 PM »

mahirap yun pre, has to be the same mic, same position, same hand, same force hehehe.

we can all agree that all cymbals sound unique...so just pick the best sounding cymbal among the bunch. whether its clean or dirty, it will sound good because IT IS GOOD. only the good things endure because they become sought-after classics. i've heard vintage cymbals and they arent all that impressive, just old.

cheezemonster08 · « **Reply #434 on:** January 06, 2010, 09:02:42 PM »

ok ba pang linis yun WD-40?

galing tanggal yung kalawang yung rim ng toms ko ehh
hindi naman kaya maapektuhan?

redvillain · « **Reply #435 on:** January 09, 2010, 10:08:28 PM »

hmm im not sure about wd-40, meron akong napanood na video sir tungkol sa paggamit ng wd-40 sa pedals ang sabi nung mga gumamit ng wd-40 parang nasira ung pedals nila... hindi ko lng alam sa cymbals pre. pero ako ill just buy that groove juice cymbal cleaner.

cheezemonster08 · « **Reply #436 on:** January 09, 2010, 11:11:07 PM »

groove juice can be used on any cymbal brand right?
yun na lang din gagamitin ko para sure

redvillain · « **Reply #437 on:** January 10, 2010, 12:11:27 PM »

uu sir kahit anong brand ng cymbal mo pwede, im not just sure if you can use it on a zildjian titanium cymbal. iba yata ung pang linis dun eh. but the rest i know it works. sa audiophil yata pre merong groove juice.

wilpredo · « **Reply #438 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:49:13 AM »

I just bought this Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish at JB music

the cleaner is recommended for: K Custom, K, A Custom, Avedis, Z Custom, FX, ZXT, ZBT

instruction said: Apply polish sparingly to a cloth
apply to cymbal from cloth using light pressure.
black residue will appear on the surface of the cymbal
remove residue and polish with a clean soft cloth

Ginamit ko sya sa K Custom cymbal ko, and ganito yung nangyari

yung left side ng cymbal na nilagyan ko ng cleaner, instead na mawala yung black residue, pag pinupunasan ko lalong umiitim.

help naman mga bro, tnx!

:: paging sir autoexec, baka kaya mo linisin cymbal ko hehe

waya_drum · « **Reply #439 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:52:35 AM »

Sir,

Try mo palitan basahan na gamit mo. Natural na mgaka- black film yan. Magastos lang talaga sa basahan ang zildjian cleaner

wilpredo · « **Reply #440 on:** January 21, 2010, 03:56:55 AM »

bro, pinapalitan ko yung basahan na ginagamit ko sobrang gastos na nga e hehe malinis na cloth yung pinupunas ko dun sa black residue, bawat punas palit ng side ng cloth. kaso ganyan parin

waya_drum · « **Reply #441 on:** January 21, 2010, 04:45:18 AM »

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drummaniac · « **Reply #442 on:** January 21, 2010, 09:18:55 AM »

Quote from: wilpredo on January 21, 2010, 03:49:13 AM

I just bought this Zildjian Cymbal Cleaning Polish at JB music

the cleaner is recommended for: K Custom, K, A Custom, Avedis, Z Custom, FX, ZXT, ZBT

instruction said: Apply polish sparingly to a cloth
apply to cymbal from cloth using light pressure.
black residue will appear on the surface of the cymbal
remove residue and polish with a clean soft cloth

Ginamit ko sya sa K Custom cymbal ko, and ganito yung nangyari

yung left side ng cymbal na nilagyan ko ng cleaner, instead na mawala yung black residue, pag pinupunasan ko lalong umiitim.

help naman mga bro, tnx!

:: paging sir autoexec, baka kaya mo linisin cymbal ko hehe

Wahh....anubayan..parang nag ka-pimples.

. Ganyan din nagyari sakin sa A custom ko

wilpredo · « **Reply #443 on:** January 25, 2010, 01:45:17 AM »

bro sa picture lang yang mga pimples, ang problema ko talaga is yung nasa left side ng cymbal. kung mapapansin mo mejo nagiba yung kulay nya

numberfortyone · « **Reply #444 on:** January 25, 2010, 11:44:54 AM »

hey bro.

ginamitan ko din yan sa traditional hats ko.
sablay.
ang hirap pati tanggalin yung black residue sa surface.
kung pagtiya-tiyagaan mo talaga punasan yung black residue, magiiba yung color niya and magiging mejo shiny.

imo, recommended lang siya for brilliant finished cymbals. not so much for traditional.

pero meron ako nakita dito sa forums ginamitan ni paeng16 yung zildjian cymbal cleaner sa avedis crash na traditional. he was able to make it clean and shiny. sana makakuha tayo ng tips sa kanya. paging paeng!

wireme · « **Reply #445 on:** January 25, 2010, 01:18:34 PM »

ganyan din nangyari sa mga k's ko before i think effective lang yan sa mga brilliant na cymbals(not sure though). kaya hindi nako naglilinis ng cymbals ngayon, puro punas na lang. subukan ko groove juice.

autoexec · « **Reply #446 on:** January 26, 2010, 01:05:11 AM »

naku po!

Try mo banlawan bro, tapos gawin mo yung nilagang cymbals ni kuya peeves.

Pag ayaw pa rin palinis mo na sakin yan..

waya_drum · « **Reply #447 on:** January 26, 2010, 03:46:01 AM »

sales talk? peace!

straightedgejep · « **Reply #448 on:** January 26, 2010, 07:48:59 AM »

sir sa tingin ko pag umiitim po siya gamit ka pa ng isang basahan na basa, una muna yung cleaner with dry tapos yun nga mangingitim, tapos punasan mo ng wet cloth. . ganyan din yung sa paiste cleaner ko pero pag ang aaply ako ng wet cloth nawawala na yung black, pero napakadaming basahan ang nauubos ko, hehe kaya pag tinatamad ako ang gamit ko yung groove juice, sobrang bilis!! takpan mo lang yung logo mo ng electrical tape, tapos pag spray mo toothbrushin mo lang tanggal kaagad wala pa 5 mins. .wala lang sir share ko lang

wilpredo · « **Reply #449 on:** January 26, 2010, 01:47:20 PM »

@straightedgejep: bro ang problema kasi habang pinupunas ko pa lang yung cleaner nangingitim na so humahalo yung itimk dun sa natitirang cleaner. pag kinakalat ko na yung cleaner kulay itim na. try ko yung wet cloth, baka gumana hehe salamat bro

@autexec: di ako marunong nung nilagang cymbals e natatakot ako gawin haha pag di ko na siguro matiis papalinis ko na lang sayo, sigurado pa haha

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