TALK @ PhilMusic.com - The Online Home of the Pinoy Musician
The Music Forums => Gospel and Praise => Topic started by: Hebron on October 13, 2009, 09:43:43 AM
Title: Appropriate Drumset/Cymbals for Church Set Up? *merged*
Post by: Hebron on October 13, 2009, 09:43:43 AM
Mga bro patulong naman.
Our church is planning to buy a new drumset kaya lang di namin alam kung acoustic ba o digital drumset ang bibilin. Alin ang mas maganda sa church setting? at bakit? Ano ang advantages and disadvantages ng dalawa? Meron ba kayong alam na church na digital drumset ang gamit?
Eto po pinagpipilian namin: Digital: http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=1039&category_id=16&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53 (http://www.yupangco.com/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage_catalogue.tpl&product_id=1039&category_id=16&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=53)
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
Post by: jefisipbata on October 13, 2009, 09:47:56 AM
can you give us a brief description of your church? list down ko para naman makapag bigay kame ng medyo magandang advice.
- size ng worship hall (dimension) - current sound system setup (lagay mo na din kung may drums na kayo dati) - ok lang ba sa drummer nyo yun?
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
Post by: Hebron on October 13, 2009, 09:54:53 AM
Mga 400 regular members ang laki ng church namin. Ang building ay 2 storeys high at madaming windows (hindi kulob). Meron na kaming (very old) pearl drum set 1993 pa binili kaya nag mamakaawa na palitan na sya 3 ang drummers ng church yung isa reserba (hehe ako yun) Yung isang drummer gusto digital yung isa acoustic ako ang tie breaker (hehehe hirap maging PK)
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
Post by: Darel on October 13, 2009, 10:10:37 AM
para sa akin sir, as long as wala naman nagrereklamo sa mga kapit bahay or katabing establishment eh ok lang gumamit ng acoustic drums(budget wise).. mas maganda kasi feel ng acoustic than digital/electric drums.. kung malaki rin naman yung church niyo bakit hindi acoustic drums na lang.. pero kung may nagrerklamo sa kapitbahay, eh no choice kung may budget lang din naman eh d bili nga ng digital..
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or digital?
Post by: jefisipbata on October 13, 2009, 10:11:23 AM
Mga 400 regular members ang laki ng church namin. Ang building ay 2 storeys high at madaming windows (hindi kulob). Meron na kaming (very old) pearl drum set 1993 pa binili kaya kaya nag mamakaawa na palitan na sya 3 ang drummers ng church yung isa reserba (hehe ako yun) Yung isang drummer gusto digital yung isa acoustic ako ang tie breaker (hehehe hirap maging PK)
parang samin din pala halos yung size. yun naman pala ikaw ang PK, ikaw na magdecide (PK din ako,hahahaha). sa ngayon ba may mga mics yung drums nyo or wala?
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: Hebron on October 13, 2009, 10:19:13 AM
Sa ngayon hindi naka mic kasi no need malalakas palo nila kaya ilang palit na ng drumheads (huhuhu).
para sa akin sir, as long as wala naman nagrereklamo sa mga kapit bahay or katabing establishment eh ok lang gumamit ng acoustic drums(budget wise).. mas maganda kasi feel ng acoustic than digital/electric drums.. kung malaki rin naman yung church niyo bakit hindi acoustic drums na lang.. pero kung may nagrerklamo sa kapitbahay, eh no choice kung may budget lang din naman eh d bili nga ng digital..
Noong una may nagrereklamo sa ingay ng tugtugan pero ngayon yung nagrereklamo na born-again na (hehehe). Sa ngayon wala pa namang nagrereklamo takot siguro ma-born again o kaya nasanay na sa ingay.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: sandythedrummer on October 13, 2009, 10:24:52 AM
Bro if you want a long term investment for the church, Choose the acoustic set.
Pros and cons of Electric Set
Pros -You can control the volume. -yun lang
Cons -Feel and sound is so unreal. At 1st you're excited with a Digital Kit but after few weeks of playing it, you'll still long for an acoustic kit. -Repair is pain in the ARSE!!! -After sales is so poor.You can't even buy extras for that.
Acoustic kit is the winner. You only need to adjust yourself of playing light depending on the situations. But hey.... It's all good!!!
If you're serious you can contact me at 0917-8388783/0922-4728783
Ciao!!!
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: jefisipbata on October 13, 2009, 10:47:19 AM
Bro if you want a long term investment for the church, Choose the acoustic set.
Pros and cons of Electric Set
Pros -You can control the volume. -yun lang
Cons -Feel and sound is so unreal. At 1st you're excited with a Digital Kit but after few weeks of playing it, you'll still long for an acoustic kit. -Repair is pain in the ARSE!!! -After sales is so poor.You can't even buy extras for that.
Acoustic kit is the winner. You only need to adjust yourself of playing light depending on the situations. But hey.... It's all good!!!
If you're serious you can contact me at 0917-8388783/0922-4728783
Ciao!!!
ayan, answered prayer na.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: Hebron on October 13, 2009, 10:36:19 PM
Mga bro salamat! Acoustic kit is the winner! Tipid pa sa kuryente! :-D GBU!
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: jefisipbata on October 14, 2009, 07:19:48 AM
Mga bro salamat! Acoustic kit is the winner! Tipid pa sa kuryente! :-D GBU!
ayus. post ka ng pics pag nakabili ka na.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: StickMan on October 14, 2009, 08:37:56 AM
Mga chong Good Am! pasali naman dito!:)
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: uglyguy on October 14, 2009, 09:27:21 AM
sir ... kami sa VCF Fort naka TD 21 ...... lahat ng drummers nag rereklamo ... iba kasi ang feel ...
sa akin .. at sa akin lang naman .. big NO ang electronic drums ..... not a good investment ... wala pang isang taon butas na yun bass drum skin nun TD 21 ... you will have to set up a very good monitor system sa stage ... para marinig ng lahat ng musician yun drums unlike sa acoustic kasi rinig naman na .... ang pinaka ayaw ko dyan eh yun height adjustment .... fixed na yun pag nag set up ka ... iba iba naman ang height preference ng bawat drummers ... so ang hirap ... and isang clip lang ng kuryente mag reset na yun module mo ... minsan error pa pag reset .. so reset ka ulit ... mga kasam amo tumutugtog na ikaw wala pang tunog .... at eto madalas na prob .. pinapaki alaman ng mga drummers ang setting ng module .. alam mo na problema dyan ....
tama si sir sandy .... gusto m ng good investment ... go for acoustic drums ...
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: paeng16 on October 14, 2009, 09:30:15 AM
Electric drums naman eh pang practice lang or if you're still stuck at the 80's bands!! hehehe...
Another pro's ng electric drum eh 1) Always naka TONO. 2) Madaling itransport 3) madaling i-setup at iligpit.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: StickMan on October 14, 2009, 09:34:23 AM
mas ma feel mo yng drums pag accoustic kc, natural yng tunog nya, para saken accoustic drums ako, kahit simpleng setup yng accoustic drums bsta maganda yng pag kakatono and magnada yng cymbals, oks na oks yng mga chongs... :-)
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: watcher on October 14, 2009, 11:02:00 AM
get the best of both worlds kuya... bumili k ng acoustic tapos set upan mo ng mics astig un...! panget kc sound ng electric kc puro kuryente... wala nang acoustics... hindi ko type ang electric kc pra kang ngddrums ng techno music hehehehehe...
buy ka na lng ng magandang drumset tpos setupan mo ng astig na mics! tska ang madalas kc na tugtugan sa church eh live... panget pati ang electric sa live music...
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: makinao on October 15, 2009, 09:21:39 PM
Teka, anong kondisyon ng Pearl set nyo? Baka naman heads at hardware lang ang kailangan. Heads (as in Ambassadors) for a 5 piece set should cost under 6k. If the shells are still in good shape, and depending on the condition of the hardware (lugs, tom arms, tension rods), replacement parts will cost about the same. So you could overhaul your existing drumset for a fraction of the price of a new one. And doing the overhaul yourselves will teach all of you a lot about how to maintain it.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: otepandrew on November 10, 2009, 05:36:14 AM
parang samin din pala halos yung size. yun naman pala ikaw ang PK, ikaw na magdecide (PK din ako,hahahaha). sa ngayon ba may mga mics yung drums nyo or wala?
ui mga pk oh hehe pk din ako eh la lng church din namin 400 ang capacity kaya lang kulob kaya pag medyo napasarap ang palo at medyo napalakas pinagsasabihan ako na hinaan ang palo hehehe
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: MYN11 on November 10, 2009, 11:29:33 AM
Kanya kanya tayo ng preferences. Pabor ako sa e-drums. I agree na medyo iba ang feel but it'll just take a little while para masanay ka. With your choice (TD9K), mesh na yung snare mo so halos pareho na ng feel ng real snare head yun. Ganyan ang first kit ko and wala naman problem sa akin yung rubber toms. I then upgraded to TD9KV na puro mesh na pati toms (and iba ang module).
Adjustable naman ang velocities ng e-drums. Cymbal chokes, snare buzzes etc. emulated naman. Napaka bilis iset-up. 2 channels lang kakainin sa mixer niyo. Nakamix na yung sound.
Regarding e-drums sounding too digital (unnatural, robotic whatever), Roland factory sounds are good naman. With the right tweaking sa main house mixer, lalabas ang natural drum sound (basta hindi bias ang sound engineer sa acoustic drums).
Nowadays, drum vsts are the main ingredient of e-drums and that's what I've been using. I paired my e-drum with Toontrack Superior Drummer and IMO, can blow any good sounding drum (with proper micing, eq etc sa mixer) away with its natural tone.
Check this out and see kung tunog peke pa ang e-drums ngayon:
Lahat nagawa, Rudiments, ghost notes, snare buzzes etc.
Eto factory sounds lang ng TD9K pero ang ganda na:
Depende talaga.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 10, 2009, 12:01:12 PM
depende sa lawak ng church.
Church kasi namin, almost 100 person lang yung capacity tapos acoustic drums gamit namin. Ayun, hirap pumalo. Parang bumubulong ako. hehe. So for me, mas ok kung electronic drums na lang. Para controlled yung tunog.
Title: Re: Para sa mga Christian drummers: Acoustic or electric (digital)?
Post by: kimpoy19 on November 10, 2009, 12:02:29 PM
MAs happy ako sa Acoustic Set. Hehe. Parang hindi ko kasi feel yung electronic drums eh.
Title: Appropriate Drumset/Cymbals for Church Set Up? *merged*
Post by: jericho55 on December 01, 2009, 09:13:52 PM
drummer po ako sa church bibili po kami ng bagung drum set wala naman akong idea kung anung bagay help po<><
mga worth 30k to 35k lang poh<>
tsaka po cymbals na hangang 10k<> meron po buh nun ganun?
Title: Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
Post by: pauldavid_7 on December 01, 2009, 09:39:53 PM
im now a fan of big cymbals
Paiste Signature Paiste 2002
Maganda yan
or my fave
Istanbul Samatya
Title: Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
Post by: jericho55 on December 01, 2009, 09:41:35 PM
maganda nga yun hehehe checheck ko yan hehehe
affortable naman po buh yan?mag kanu po yun
Title: Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
Post by: drumachine on December 01, 2009, 09:41:35 PM
lahat... unlimited ang choices mo bro. try to be more specific...
Title: Re: anu po suggest nyung bagay na cymbals sa sonor at sa gretsch???
Post by: Riff_6603 on December 02, 2009, 04:53:24 AM
actually bro, it's better to base it by genre.. that way mas matutulungan ka namin mahanap ung right sound sa tugtugan mo.. mahirap kasi mag-base depending sa set na gamit mo.. cheers! :wink:
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: paeng16 on December 02, 2009, 09:53:14 AM
drummer po ako sa church bibili po kami ng bagung drum set wala naman akong idea kung anung bagay help po<><
mga worth 30k to 35k lang poh<>
tsaka po cymbals na hangang 10k<> meron po buh nun ganun?
Pare Pearl Forum or Gretch SWAK sa budget mo!! 27K+ lang ata yun.. Kung medyo kinokonsensya ka ang you want to do more sa Church, dagdagan mo ng konti yung pondo para maka Gretch Catalina Maple ka men! hehehe..
There was a thread about this before.. It would really help you to view the posts there..
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: vdonati_fan on December 02, 2009, 10:19:29 AM
actually, since sa church po sya gagamitin...it doesn't matter whether you have the best cymbals, the best wood in your drumset. ang important po is playing and giving glory to God. (sorry, i don't mean to preach :-D)
anyways, since may budget po kayo, you could go to JB Music Store or other music stores and ask what model would fall on your budget. try nyo po yung Gretsch blackhawk or Sonor 507, ok na po ang wood nyan. sa cymbals po, Sabian B8 or Zildjian ZBT ata pasok na sa budget nyo. madami po dito sa forum na nagbibenta ng ganyang model. for me, mas maganda po ang B8. ganyan po gamit sa church samen.
hope this helps.
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: paeng16 on December 02, 2009, 10:28:45 AM
actually, since sa church po sya gagamitin...it doesn't matter whether you have the best cymbals, the best wood in your drumset. ang important po is playing and giving glory to God. (sorry, i don't mean to preach :-D)
anyways, since may budget po kayo, you could go to JB Music Store or other music stores and ask what model would fall on your budget. try nyo po yung Gretsch blackhawk or Sonor 507, ok na po ang wood nyan. sa cymbals po, Sabian B8 or Zildjian ZBT ata pasok na sa budget nyo. madami po dito sa forum na nagbibenta ng ganyang model. for me, mas maganda po ang B8. ganyan po gamit sa church samen.
hope this helps.
I clearly disagree with you bro.. Sasamba kanalang nagtitipid kapa... Baka mamaya tipidin ka ni bigboss.. sige ka :-D
If you have a volk wagen and a Mercedez.. What car would you "OFFER" to our big boss?? Benz? volks? both? (i hope you see the big picture)
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: chrism_rivera on December 02, 2009, 10:53:31 AM
I clearly disagree with you bro.. Sasamba kanalang nagtitipid kapa... Baka mamaya tipidin ka ni bigboss.. sige ka :-D
If you have a volk wagen and a Mercedez.. What car would you "OFFER" to our big boss?? Benz? volks? both? (i hope you see the big picture)
+1,000,000!!!!! :-D
Siguro it also depend sa capacity din ng church and yung faith mo sa magproprovide ng fund, yung best na kaya niyo or yung best na gusto niyong offer kay Bossing...
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: vdonati_fan on December 02, 2009, 11:20:37 AM
Siguro it also depend sa capacity din ng church and yung faith mo sa magproprovide ng fund, yung best na kaya niyo or yung best na gusto niyong offer kay Bossing...
sorry guys, i don't want to make any debate on this. what i'm just saying is above all the brands that we have in the market, the quality of the product and the price is has...again, the important thing is when we play, we play with our humble hearts for Him. you don't have to agree or disagree with me on this.
i just hope that our friend jericho finds a suitable drumset for their church with our help.
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: chrism_rivera on December 02, 2009, 11:48:03 AM
bro jericho55, ok ang gretsch... Ask ka na lang sa JB kung anong model yung kasya sa 35K na budget or if you can make it 45K mas ok... Alam ko may free na kasing cymbals yun eh... Pagtsagaan mo na lang muna yung free na cymbals don sa set na bibilihin mo... Check mo din yung Sonor... Alam ko May TAMA din ata na worth 40K to 50K, ok din yun... :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: watcher on December 02, 2009, 12:23:34 PM
sulitin at sagarin mo ang budget! God gave us all the authority and power over heaven and earth... I suggest mag pearl ka o TAMA... Ipakita mo kung gano kayaman ang God natin!!! Only the Best For our GOD!!!!
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: paeng16 on December 02, 2009, 12:29:55 PM
Buy Father(priest) a DemonDrive for Christmas men!! :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: peeves24 on December 02, 2009, 12:52:40 PM
OT na to. i will get flamed for this but...im ignorant about today's christian values.
what's the difference between the drums in church than the ones we use at bars?
the last time i went to church, i was taught that we have an almighty god who will understand - its the deed and performance that counts because you are giving yourself, He will understand right? (i cant believe i just said that). isnt buying "the best", even more than you can afford, being materialistic and impractical?
and what's special with being a church drummer against us regular drummers? do you get special discounts for being religious?
first of all, im not knocking down anyone (people or religion). curious lang ako...nagiging excuse na kasi dito sa forum yung "for church use e, baka naman pwede pa additional discount".
jericho dude, just go to the music stores. ask for prices, decide on at least 3 models that you can afford and then come back here to ask for opinions regarding "which one is best".
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: uglyguy on December 02, 2009, 01:06:40 PM
OT na to. i will get flamed for this but...im ignorant about today's christian values.
what's the difference between the drums in church than the ones we use at bars?
the last time i went to church, i was taught that we have an almighty god who will understand - its the deed and performance that counts because you are giving yourself, He will understand right? (i cant believe i just said that). isnt buying "the best", even more than you can afford, being materialistic and impractical?
and what's special with being a church drummer against us regular drummers? do you get special discounts for being religious?
first of all, im not knocking down anyone (people or religion). curious lang ako...nagiging excuse na kasi dito sa forum yung "for church use e, baka naman pwede pa additional discount".
jericho dude, just go to the music stores. ask for prices, decide on at least 3 models that you can afford and then come back here to ask for opinions regarding "which one is best".
peeves yun drums ata sa church eh dapat tatak TAMA ... kasi bawal ang mali dun hahahahaha ....
well guys tama si peeves ... why ask for kung ano magandang drums sa church .. ano ba pag kaka iba nun kung sa bars ka mag set up ... u have the same acoustics naman ... same sound systems .. have you seen a sit up drums na naka lagay eh "FOR CHURCH USE ONLY" or "INTENDED FOR CHURCH USE" ... wala naman ata .... kung ano bibilin nyo sa drums eh sagot dyan eh what God has given you ba ... if God has given you PhP 30,000 for a sit up drums .. then spend mo yan lahat para lang dun .... wala naman sigurong low end drums na worht PhP 30,000 .... you will get a good set of sit up drums nyan .... and God doesn't look at your drum's brand ..... He looks at the heart of the drummer ......
just my 2 cents lang po
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: peeves24 on December 02, 2009, 01:08:28 PM
peeves yun drums ata sa church eh dapat tatak TAMA ... kasi bawal ang mali dun hahahahaha ....
:evil: makes sense :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: boyutak101 on December 02, 2009, 01:16:54 PM
akin lang naman ito if your budget is around 45k for the whole thing meron naman packages sa JB na around that price eh! from gretsch to pearl to sonor with everything na yun! from the timba set (12,13,16,22 and a 14 snare) and a fusion kit (10,12,14,22 or 20 and a 14 snare) napaka rami kapatid does'nt matter what drums you get for church or not its the same thing! i advise you got to JB music/salonga in cubao look for amy and ask for a discount d naman sila swapang sa discount, don't be shy ask for a special discount accomodate naman nila kyo pag kaya eh!
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: chrism_rivera on December 02, 2009, 01:49:51 PM
peeves yun drums ata sa church eh dapat tatak TAMA ... kasi bawal ang mali dun hahahahaha ....
well guys tama si peeves ... why ask for kung ano magandang drums sa church .. ano ba pag kaka iba nun kung sa bars ka mag set up ... u have the same acoustics naman ... same sound systems .. have you seen a sit up drums na naka lagay eh "FOR CHURCH USE ONLY" or "INTENDED FOR CHURCH USE" ... wala naman ata .... kung ano bibilin nyo sa drums eh sagot dyan eh what God has given you ba ... if God has given you PhP 30,000 for a sit up drums .. then spend mo yan lahat para lang dun .... wala naman sigurong low end drums na worht PhP 30,000 .... you will get a good set of sit up drums nyan .... and God doesn't look at your drum's brand ..... He looks at the heart of the drummer ......
just my 2 cents lang po
I agree!!! Work on the budget... :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: DreamBig on December 02, 2009, 02:07:06 PM
IMHO. If 45K talaga ang allotted budget for the new drumset e might as well maximize it. For long term use naman yan kaya buy quality drumset na. I know you would agree that a good sounding drumset enhances the overall sound ng band (assuming na okay din yung drummer).
You can buy a Cheaper Fernnando set with planet Z cymbals for less than 20K pero I would ONLY buy that if yun lang talaga ang kaya ng budget. But if I have 45K e I would prefer to buy the best drum set in that price range.
Kaya if talagang afford ang 45K e use it. I think the fusion set of Gretsch Catalina maple fits your budget, may cymbals na kasama na yun. I suggest that you go to Salonga cubao or better if sa Salonga Quiapo dahil mas mura sila mag quote compared sa mga JB sa malls. Check it out bro! Compare prices sa iba’t ibang branch dahil based on my experience e magkakaiba sila ng ibibigay na price sa”yo for the same product. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: paeng16 on December 02, 2009, 04:33:27 PM
IMHO. If 45K talaga ang allotted budget for the new drumset e might as well maximize it. For long term use naman yan kaya buy quality drumset na. I know you would agree that a good sounding drumset enhances the overall sound ng band (assuming na okay din yung drummer).
You can buy a Cheaper Fernnando set with planet Z cymbals for less than 20K pero I would ONLY buy that if yun lang talaga ang kaya ng budget. But if I have 45K e I would prefer to buy the best drum set in that price range.
Kaya if talagang afford ang 45K e use it. I think the fusion set of Gretsch Catalina maple fits your budget, may cymbals na kasama na yun. I suggest that you go to Salonga cubao or better if sa Salonga Quiapo dahil mas mura sila mag quote compared sa mga JB sa malls. Check it out bro! Compare prices sa iba’t ibang branch dahil based on my experience e magkakaiba sila ng ibibigay na price sa”yo for the same product. Hope this helps!
This doesn't HELPS!!! hehehe..
Same Price lang ang JB malls sa JB Quiapo dude... FYI... :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: Gep on December 02, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
ddrum Diablo.
Loko lang. :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: paeng16 on December 02, 2009, 04:39:20 PM
bumenta na yan GEP... parang DEMON DRIVE for the church!!... :oops:
At saka Schecter C-1 Hellraiser sa gitarista. :lol:
Seriously, kahit ano'ng drumset naman na ok ang tunog, bagay sa simbahan. :)
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: killikillers on December 02, 2009, 05:02:26 PM
ddrum diablo pearl demon drive pati zildjian pitch black
pang church
tama si gep kahit ano, kahit generic nga lang eh tapos palitan mo nalang ng skins, nasa pumapalo at nag totono din yan, hindi mo na kailangan ng monster kit unless bibigyan ka ng 200k budget ng church niyo
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: DreamBig on December 02, 2009, 05:41:27 PM
Quote
This doesn't HELPS!!! hehehe..
Same Price lang ang JB malls sa JB Quiapo dude... FYI...
I just got a quote of catalina 6pc, 5pc from mega, salonga cubao and salonga Quiapo bro! Maybe you mean, same ang tag price. Pero as a smart buyer syempre you will ask for a discount. at dun sila nagkakatalo. Always ask for a discount even if may nakalagay nang tag price. Pero you can do that if cash buyer ka. Pag credit card gagamitin mo e same price lang talaga lahat ng branches because usually what is tagged on the product is the card price.
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: jericho55 on December 02, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
hmm pede pong palagay kung magkanu ang gretsch catalina maple bka mapagiponan ko hehe..
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: mahikawon666 on December 03, 2009, 10:09:21 AM
electronic drums ang bagay sa tingin ko like medeli
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drum set sa church?
Post by: in_the_tent on December 03, 2009, 07:33:30 PM
Pearl ala Pearly gates of heaven. Gretsch Catalina kung si Sta Catalina ang patron ninyo.
wala lang. just kidding.:)
Title: What are your Suggested Cymbals?
Post by: niroh on June 16, 2012, 07:15:41 AM
i'm looking forward bumili ng brand new cymbals for the church, pero hindi ko alam kung
ano ang maganda para sa simbahan, pwede nyo po ba akong tulungan para sa mga
ideas??
Title: Re: What are your Suggested Cymbals?
Post by: tipsyboy on June 16, 2012, 12:25:33 PM
Mga guide questions para sayo: Sino ba tutugtog? Ano ba tugtugan? Pano ba pumalo yung drummer? Anong mga tunog ang hinahanap mo? Gusto mo ba brand new cymbals mo or ok ka lang sa used?
Ultimately, you'll have to figure that one out for yourself. :-D
Title: Re: What are your Suggested Cymbals?
Post by: niroh on June 16, 2012, 12:40:46 PM
pref. po siguro new, to replace our old ones, lahat naman mo ng genre tinutugtog, though medjo mabigat ang
kamay ng ibang drummers namin. . . btw thanks for your reply :-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drumset/cymbals para sa church?
Post by: Drummeroo on June 18, 2012, 07:47:41 AM
bakit nyo titipirin si lord, kung may budget, go for DW's! :lol: :lol:
bumili ka ng kit na yung sasakto sa budget, hndi nmn lahat ng chruches e may kakayanan na bumili ng mahal, basta ang importante, may magamit para sa kapurihan ni lord. cheers!
:-D
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drumset/cymbals para sa church?
Post by: Mypranaproject on June 18, 2012, 09:27:21 AM
If sa church and you have the budget. I would choose yung mga drums na mas matibay ang hardware. (Yung mga nasa mid-range okay na) Kasi madalas gagamitin yan sa church so dapat yung mga hardware like tom holders, pedals and others na prone sa wear and tear if used regularly e yung tatagal.
Sa community namin, we use a low end Ashlon drums. Nadonate lang pero bago pa naman. Yun nga lang after 3 months e bumigay na yung mga tom holder lock na nakakabit sa rack toms. Kaya ayun hanap kami spare parts sa lazer.
It's true that God doesn't mind what drums you buy for the church but if He gave you that budget then maximize that to buy a decent drums.
It's also true na wala sa drums yan, nasa drummer yan. A good drummer can make a cheap drums sound expensive. Pero ang main objective kaya bibili ka ng magandang drums is for long term use with less wear and tear.
Title: anu po ang bagay na drumset/cymbals para sa church?
Post by: pejadanza on June 18, 2012, 05:54:25 PM
notice ko sa churches dito sa lugar namin, ung mga kapitbahay pumapalag. ung drums usually ung reklamo. TOO LOUD! hehe!
for me, kuha ka ng drums birch para mid (not too boomy) at madali mag project. at hindi maxado tuby sounding. ung fusion sizes na Pearl Vision or Hyperdrives ng Tama. they project but are not too loud. (mas ok ung Tama hayperdrive kasi thinner shells)
usually ung simbahan is made of concrete hollow blocks ang stage at walang acoustics so try to compensate with curtains (ung nilalagyan usually ng theme at verse. hehe) then use smaller sizes ng crash cymbals. 14-16 fast crash, dark crash, studio crash (thinner cymbals) . ung cymbals na darker so that mag bblend at hindi maxadong makalansing and noisy all over the place. dati when i play sa church i use AAX Dark Crash 15", AAXcelerator hats 13", Aged B8 Pro Ride (warm sounding), HHX Evo Splash 12". but way before nung kulang pa ako sa maturity sa pag tugtug, dala ko sa church AAXplosion 16" at AAX Metal Crash 18 may kasama pang AAXtreme Chinese 17" wahaha. nabibingi ung mga nag sisimba sa akin and it took me some time to realize na i only need smaller cymbals kasi i was all over the place. hehe.
then dapat ang drummer may control sa palo. ung tipong hulog lang para clear lahat. pag loud ung drummer sa church, xempre mag increase din volume ung pre amps ng guitar/keys/bassguitar pati vocalist sumisigaw na. hehe!
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drumset/cymbals para sa church?
Post by: Drummeroo on June 18, 2012, 06:10:49 PM
notice ko sa churches dito sa lugar namin, ung mga kapitbahay pumapalag. ung drums usually ung reklamo. TOO LOUD! hehe!
for me, kuha ka ng drums birch para mid (not too boomy) at madali mag project. at hindi maxado tuby sounding. ung fusion sizes na Pearl Vision or Hyperdrives ng Tama. they project but are not too loud. (mas ok ung Tama hayperdrive kasi thinner shells)
usually ung simbahan is made of concrete hollow blocks ang stage at walang acoustics so try to compensate with curtains (ung nilalagyan usually ng theme at verse. hehe) then use smaller sizes ng crash cymbals. 14-16 fast crash, dark crash, studio crash (thinner cymbals) . ung cymbals na darker so that mag bblend at hindi maxadong makalansing and noisy all over the place. dati when i play sa church i use AAX Dark Crash 15", AAXcelerator hats 13", Aged B8 Pro Ride (warm sounding), HHX Evo Splash 12". but way before nung kulang pa ako sa maturity sa pag tugtug, dala ko sa church AAXplosion 16" at AAX Metal Crash 18 may kasama pang AAXtreme Chinese 17" wahaha. nabibingi ung mga nag sisimba sa akin and it took me some time to realize na i only need smaller cymbals kasi i was all over the place. hehe.
then dapat ang drummer may control sa palo. ung tipong hulog lang para clear lahat. pag loud ung drummer sa church, xempre mag increase din volume ung pre amps ng guitar/keys/bassguitar pati vocalist sumisigaw na. hehe!
sana ma pin :-D this info is very helpful. thanks sir :)
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drumset/cymbals para sa church?
Post by: niroh on June 19, 2012, 12:42:42 AM
notice ko sa churches dito sa lugar namin, ung mga kapitbahay pumapalag. ung drums usually ung reklamo. TOO LOUD! hehe!
for me, kuha ka ng drums birch para mid (not too boomy) at madali mag project. at hindi maxado tuby sounding. ung fusion sizes na Pearl Vision or Hyperdrives ng Tama. they project but are not too loud. (mas ok ung Tama hayperdrive kasi thinner shells)
usually ung simbahan is made of concrete hollow blocks ang stage at walang acoustics so try to compensate with curtains (ung nilalagyan usually ng theme at verse. hehe) then use smaller sizes ng crash cymbals. 14-16 fast crash, dark crash, studio crash (thinner cymbals) . ung cymbals na darker so that mag bblend at hindi maxadong makalansing and noisy all over the place. dati when i play sa church i use AAX Dark Crash 15", AAXcelerator hats 13", Aged B8 Pro Ride (warm sounding), HHX Evo Splash 12". but way before nung kulang pa ako sa maturity sa pag tugtug, dala ko sa church AAXplosion 16" at AAX Metal Crash 18 may kasama pang AAXtreme Chinese 17" wahaha. nabibingi ung mga nag sisimba sa akin and it took me some time to realize na i only need smaller cymbals kasi i was all over the place. hehe.
then dapat ang drummer may control sa palo. ung tipong hulog lang para clear lahat. pag loud ung drummer sa church, xempre mag increase din volume ung pre amps ng guitar/keys/bassguitar pati vocalist sumisigaw na. hehe!
actualy samin wala na pong prob. 'cause cinema type kami, naglagay nalang po ako ng drumshield. . .
thank you so much po for the info! :-D :cute:
Title: Re: anu po ang bagay na drumset/cymbals para sa church?
Post by: otepandrew on June 19, 2012, 09:48:24 AM
ganito po ung ginawa ko sa drums namin sa church namin so far ok naman na siya ang ginawa namin naka in house na lahat ng instrument pati drums tapos ung palo ko saktong lakas saktong hina na lang kasi may mic na eh kaya di na masyadong maingay at pantay pantay na tunog ng electric guitar, lead guitar, bass, keyboard, at acoustic, at drums
Title: Re: Drumset/cymbals for church?
Post by: ken minneman on July 14, 2012, 08:36:33 AM
Sit this is out of budget but regarding cymbals.. Ito talaga designed for Gospel music.. at pinag-iipunan ko siya ngayon.. check this sir..
I agree with this cymbals set then match it with SONOR Beech DRUMSET (steve smith) signature series, yung jazz kit... shoot na yan... Wala sa drumset yan, nasa pumapalo yan... 8-)
Title: Appropriate Cymbals for Church Set Up
Post by: denxio14 on February 04, 2013, 12:29:00 PM
Hello po, hihingi po sana ako ng advice kung anong magandang cymbals puwedeng gamitin for church set up. Dark? Brilliant? Traditional? Yun po sanang sound na gusto ko ma-produce yung hindi masyadong bright at low sustain. Salamat po!
Title: Re: Appropriate Cymbals for Church Set Up
Post by: skunkyfunk on February 04, 2013, 02:45:27 PM
Hello po, hihingi po sana ako ng advice kung anong magandang cymbals puwedeng gamitin for church set up. Dark? Brilliant? Traditional? Yun po sanang sound na gusto ko ma-produce yung hindi masyadong bright at low sustain. Salamat po!
Meinl Classics are great. Not too bright, not too warm, durable and pogi.
Title: Magandang Drum setup for Church?
Post by: AkoSiOann on September 16, 2013, 11:53:12 AM
Any recommendations? kasama na yung brand/model ng drums saka cymbals pero yung hindi gano kalakas Medyo malaki church namin kasya siguro mga 300+ na tao.
Title: Re: Appropriate Drumset/Cymbals for Church Set Up? *merged*
Post by: CorinthianDrummer on November 19, 2013, 04:21:47 PM
I would recommend at least yung Pearl Forum Series and sa cymbals yung Zildjian Inspiration Pack (13 pocket hi-hats, 16 and 18 A custom fast crash, K custom Med.ride and A splash 12) Subok na.