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Re: 1960's Rock Roots
« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2010, 03:41:38 AM »
Mga sir, can i join you..love the 60's.. love all the bands that were enumerated... :-)
can i add/share:
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the Velvet Underground  

Can (my fav band :-))
                                   
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Pink floyd w/ syd barrett  
Jefferson Airplane
Buffalo Springfield
Janis Joplin
Roy Orbison(cant help it.,i like his songs)

the Who
the Kinks

Greatful Dead
JethroTull
Zappa

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re: Can I tried checking out the vid. Man... They are way ahead of their time. Though I was watching Iggy Pop. hehe

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« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2010, 03:25:30 PM »
Salamuch bro sale ko dyan hehehe talked to bro Edwin (i think that's his name, told him peers kayo ni Jun Villamayor) last Dec 11 when he's all excited looking forward to the jam then, sayang wala kami naging follow up talk . . btw sana me slot pa . . .

In the spirit of the Beatles thread
http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,130073.875.html

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« Reply #27 on: December 27, 2010, 03:26:27 PM »
Mammas and Pappas, Chuck Berry, Ritchie Valens, Santo & Johnny, THE DOORS!!! haha
 i like the 50's to 60's sound really, though i really don't know much about it. (just starting to explore em)  :-)


Who could ever forget California dreaming! :-) great vocal band

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« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2010, 12:10:10 AM »
re: Can I tried checking out the vid. Man... They are way ahead of their time. Though I was watching Iggy Pop. hehe

up to now, very far out :-)

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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2010, 01:03:29 AM »
up to now, very far out :-)

actually, halos magkasabay ang velvet underground & iggy and the stooges.  add to the fact that lou reed and iggy pop have very similar singing voices when they're singing...ibang usapan na when iggy pop is screaming, which he did quite a lot with the stooges...   :lol:

neither band sold a lot of records (both aforementioned frontmen would have much more successful solo careers in terms of sales) but need to be given credit for influencing a lot of today's music. 

EDIT - good to know that the stooges are still active, even almost a year after ron asheton's passing.  si james williamson (guitarist on the "raw power" album) ang pumalit, after a decades-long hiatus from playing music...
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« Reply #30 on: December 28, 2010, 05:45:03 AM »
No love for Motown?  :|

I love 60s music in general (not just rock) - Motown, Brill Building stuff, Phil Spector pop, Dusty Springfield, any music na pinakialaman ni Curt Boettcher, Serge Gainsbourg, John Barry etc, etc.

lots of love for motown records here, and their original roster of artists in the '60s...as well as their southern US counterpart, stax records.   :-D  panalo din ang '60s soul/R&B!
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« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2010, 12:39:51 AM »
some good reading material here...you may never have heard of these guys (unless you're familiar with the "nuggets" series me and bryan mentioned in page 1) but they were one of the great unsung heroes of the '60s garage rock scene...even if a couple of their "original" songs were workarounds on blues classics "milk cow blues" and "dust my broom". 

http://www.thechocolatewatchband.com/history1.html

goes up to history10.html, so just read on.   :-D
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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2010, 12:09:36 AM »
...as i was rushing to work tonight several minutes late, my earphones accidentally disconnected from my phone, and before i knew it, my phone was blaring out stuff from my "secret playlist"...not really secret per se, but music that not too many people are aware i like.

and for 30 glorious seconds, manong guard and a few officemates were treated to the chocolate watchband's (see above post) garage rock cover of wilson pickett's soul classic "in the midnight hour".   :-D

just wanted to share this "close encounter" with '60s rock.   :-)
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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2011, 10:17:42 AM »

Anyone here who's a Del Shannon fan? Ranaway, Needles and pins :wink:

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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2011, 02:27:33 PM »
Anyone here who's a Del Shannon fan? Ranaway, Needles and pins :wink:

I never knew that Del Shannon did Needles and Pins! What I know was the original artist of this song was Jackie DeShannon. The Searchers did a cover which was a bigger hit (the Searchers' recordings are 90% cover tunes).

I am a fan of Charles Westover a.k.a. Del Shannon. Runaway will always be a firm favorite plus Hats Of To Larry and Keep Searchin'.

His covers of the Outsider's "Time Won't Let Me" and Brian Hyland's "The Joker Went Wild" is also good.

Incidentally, Del was the original artist (he wrote it) of "I Go To Pieces" in which the Peter & Gordon cover is the more popular cover.
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2011, 10:52:32 PM »
I never knew that Del Shannon did Needles and Pins! What I know was the original artist of this song was Jackie DeShannon. The Searchers did a cover which was a bigger hit (the Searchers' recordings are 90% cover tunes).

I am a fan of Charles Westover a.k.a. Del Shannon. Runaway will always be a firm favorite plus Hats Of To Larry and Keep Searchin'.

His covers of the Outsider's "Time Won't Let Me" and Brian Hyland's "The Joker Went Wild" is also good.

Incidentally, Del was the original artist (he wrote it) of "I Go To Pieces" in which the Peter & Gordon cover is the more popular cover.

Yes Del Shannon did bro.. But I like the version of Smokie too.


I go to pieces.. another great song from the era

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« Reply #37 on: January 03, 2011, 07:42:30 AM »
 :-)

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« Reply #38 on: January 03, 2011, 08:28:32 AM »
If people ask me what are my musical roots, I say that the music of the '50s, '60s, '70s and classic rock and soul. You could never go wrong with that for me. I grew up in the '80s were Punk, New Wave were all the rage in my side of town they were my "coming of age" music.

That being said, the music of the '60s still affects my outlook as a professional musician. With all the Justin Biebers, Lady Gagas, Bruno Marz, Rihanna dominating the charts, you start to wonder - the records of today sounds so processed, with only chords less than the blues, all artificial sounds. Synthesizers were still in its infancy in the '60s and are very very unreliable, sequencers were alien to them so the music you hear on those '60s records are done by real musicians.

The '60s was an era that the artists demand that they themselves write and record their own original compositions. That was unheard of in the '50s (until a certain Paul Anka came with "Diana") were all the singers were branded as "vocal stylists" or "interpreters" only. The '60s changed that, with brilliant composers like Bob Dylan, Lennon-McCartney, Jagger-Richards, everything demands a high standard of musicianship, musicality, arrangement. Besides of course you have to be excellent live performers.

Here are the artists of the '60s that shaped my musical roots:
1. The Beatles
2. Herman's Hermits
3. John Smith And The New Sound
4. Petula Clark (I finally got her autograph on one of her albums in 2008!)
5. The Zombies
6. The Ventures
7. The Shadows
8. The Jimi Hendrix Experience
9. Gary Puckett and the Union Gap ('60s white soul like the Righteous Brothers)
10.The Temptations
11.The Monkees
12.The Dave Clark Five (but lately, I've been getting bad news about them especially Dave Clark being a douchebag for refusing to release the recordings)
13.The Bee Gees (before those malaria falsettos, hehehehehe, they wrote some very melodic pop music mixed with baroque influenced strings)
14.The Outsiders
15.The Turtles
16.The Hollies
17.Peter And Gordon
18.The Association
19.The Beach Boys
20.The Wonders (! Ha! para lang mapuno yung 20! Hehehehehe)

I hope we can stage a sequel to the Beatles event last Sunday. This would take things to a higher level, slowly but surely more musical dreams will be fulfilled.

Did Gary Pucket only hit the charts once? with the timeless Young Girl?

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« Reply #39 on: January 03, 2011, 01:23:01 PM »
Have you heard the band "Fanny"? Stumbled upon it on the iTunes store a few years ago. Did a little web search, apparently sila yung all first female rock group. Ang dalawang founding members ay sisters who were from the (drumroll...) Philippines! The family emigrated to the US, i guess in the 50's, but they were born here. Bilib daw si George Harrison sa kanila :-o

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« Reply #40 on: January 03, 2011, 05:44:50 PM »
Have you heard the band "Fanny"? Stumbled upon it on the iTunes store a few years ago. Did a little web search, apparently sila yung all first female rock group. Ang dalawang founding members ay sisters who were from the (drumroll...) Philippines! The family emigrated to the US, i guess in the 50's, but they were born here. Bilib daw si George Harrison sa kanila :-o

You're talking about June and Jean Millington (bassist and guitarist respectively). They were the second all-female rock group to sign to a major label next to Goldie and the Gingerbreads. Fanny signed to Reprise records in 1970.

I guess it would be loads better if we feature the Gingerbreads instead because they were from the 60s.

AND! Can someone post something about another all-female sisters band The Shaggs. Tagged as the worst band ever to release a record but became highly influential in the grunge era. Their only album released in 1969 was reissued in the 90s. Their sound was so bad they made the Velvet Underground sound like Dream Theater!
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« Reply #41 on: January 03, 2011, 08:17:05 PM »
yeah! 60's music is really good..

nakikinig din ako ng from 70's.. di ko nga lang trip yung mga 80's new wave! ewan ko baket! hehe..
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« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2011, 01:19:25 AM »
we're not worthy!  we're not worthy!   :-D

at akala ko "expert"  na ako sa obscure '60s stuff.  kudos to bryan/burnsbhm for sharing this valuable info!  ngayon ko lang nalaman yung ibang mga facts na pinost mo. 

haven't heard goldie and the gingerbreads yet, pero alam ko eto yung banda ng manager ng dead boys.  the shaggs?  mas lalo na yan.  am currently reading their wikipedia entry...and if kurt cobain and frank zappa think highly of them, i'd probably do good to check 'em out for curiosity's sake.   :-D

speaking of "so bad they're good" bands, you may also want to check out the mops, a '60s garage band from japan.  they're best known for "i'm just a mops", a track from the second "nuggets" box set, which featured garage bands from outside the US, mostly from the UK and the rest of europe but including a few from south america, and this one from japan.  undoubtedly one of the "best" bands when it came to mangling the english language.  even downloaded an album of theirs from 1967 or 1968, and had quite a laugh listening to their covers of "the letter", "light my fire" (which sounded like "kamanbebe right my fa-yarrrr"), "san franciscan nights" (complete with short "speech" in barok english about why they like eric burdon and the animals) and several others.  half of the album has original songs written in japanese, which are pretty good in a good way, including one with the unfortunate english title and chorus line "please kill me", which they naturally pronounced as "pris kirr me"...  :D

search for "psychedelic sounds of the mops" on torrent and you'll see what i mean...
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« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2011, 02:54:34 AM »
You're talking about June and Jean Millington (bassist and guitarist respectively).

I seem to remember the local music trade magazine during that time (Jingle) writing an article about them.

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« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2011, 09:12:07 AM »
we're not worthy!  we're not worthy!   :-D

at akala ko "expert"  na ako sa obscure '60s stuff.  kudos to bryan/burnsbhm for sharing this valuable info!  ngayon ko lang nalaman yung ibang mga facts na pinost mo. 

haven't heard goldie and the gingerbreads yet, pero alam ko eto yung banda ng manager ng dead boys.  the shaggs?  mas lalo na yan.  am currently reading their wikipedia entry...and if kurt cobain and frank zappa think highly of them, i'd probably do good to check 'em out for curiosity's sake.   :-D

speaking of "so bad they're good" bands, you may also want to check out the mops, a '60s garage band from japan.  they're best known for "i'm just a mops", a track from the second "nuggets" box set, which featured garage bands from outside the US, mostly from the UK and the rest of europe but including a few from south america, and this one from japan.  undoubtedly one of the "best" bands when it came to mangling the english language.  even downloaded an album of theirs from 1967 or 1968, and had quite a laugh listening to their covers of "the letter", "light my fire" (which sounded like "kamanbebe right my fa-yarrrr"), "san franciscan nights" (complete with short "speech" in barok english about why they like eric burdon and the animals) and several others.  half of the album has original songs written in japanese, which are pretty good in a good way, including one with the unfortunate english title and chorus line "please kill me", which they naturally pronounced as "pris kirr me"...  :D

search for "psychedelic sounds of the mops" on torrent and you'll see what i mean...


Laugh trip, I'm actually singing it, haha. A few years ago I was singing a chorus line again & again, "Hello, I love you won't you tell me your name". I thought I stumbled upon an original song of mine (I actually started writing song lyrics back then albeit crappy). And then I stumbled upon The Doors,  :-D it was childhood memory lang pala yung bumalik sa akin.

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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2011, 11:27:10 PM »
just listened to the shaggs earlier today, and boy, do they sound awful.   :lol:  accurate nga yung "lobotomized von trapp singers" na description sa kanila...i believe that was from a rolling stone review.  but there's a certain quirkiness to their lyrics and delivery that gives them value somehow. 

their original stuff is mostly disharmonious (though not noisy) stuff about parents, halloween, the "philosophy of the world" (title of their first album) and a missing pet, but they have an interesting, albeit off-key version of the carpenters' "yesterday once more" from the second album, which was recorded sometime in the '70s but only released in the '80s...

the shaggs were composed of the wiggin sisters -  dorothy (vocals/guitar), betty (vocals/guitar), rachel (bass - only in the 2nd album) and helen (drums).  helen passed away a few years ago and declined to attend their 1999 reunion gig as she was suffering from depression.  the drummer of NRBQ (aka former simpsons writer/producer mike scully's favorite band) took over for that gig.  apparently their dad was the one calling the shots and the one who forced them to learn how to play instruments and make an album.  when he died in 1975, that effectively ended the shaggs' career.  based on what i read, he wasn't too all together up there...supposedly had a prophetic vision as a young man that he'd marry a strawberry blonde and that he'd make a hit record with his daughters.  first prediction came true, the second apparently didn't.
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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2011, 11:37:44 PM »
just listened to the shaggs earlier today, and boy, do they sound awful.   :lol:  accurate nga yung "lobotomized von trapp singers" na description sa kanila...i believe that was from a rolling stone review.  but there's a certain quirkiness to their lyrics and delivery that gives them value somehow. 

their original stuff is mostly disharmonious (though not noisy) stuff about parents, halloween, the "philosophy of the world" (title of their first album) and a missing pet, but they have an interesting, albeit off-key version of the carpenters' "yesterday once more" from the second album, which was recorded sometime in the '70s but only released in the '80s...

the shaggs were composed of the wiggin sisters -  dorothy (vocals/guitar), betty (vocals/guitar), rachel (bass - only in the 2nd album) and helen (drums).  helen passed away a few years ago and declined to attend their 1999 reunion gig as she was suffering from depression.  the drummer of NRBQ (aka former simpsons writer/producer mike scully's favorite band) took over for that gig.  apparently their dad was the one calling the shots and the one who forced them to learn how to play instruments and make an album.  when he died in 1975, that effectively ended the shaggs' career.  based on what i read, he wasn't too all together up there...supposedly had a prophetic vision as a young man that he'd marry a strawberry blonde and that he'd make a hit record with his daughters.  first prediction came true, the second apparently didn't.

Ang tawag sa ganiyang genre is OUTSIDER MUSIC - music that is not meant to be understood let alone achieve commercial attention. Probably the best proponent of outsider music is Captain Beefheart. The best advocate is Frank Zappa. But then I would not call Zappa's music outsider because there is a lot of conventional things in his music.

I would like to believe - IMVHO - the pioneer of outsider music is Avante Garde composer John Cage. His most OUTSIDE composition is 4:30 written for the piano (well it can be easily arranged for any instrument without the need for rewriting the score). Once you were able to listen to this tune, please tell me your impressions about it!

I told you, yung The Shaggs are EXTREMELY terrible! But they have a following! If people think the musicianship of the Eraserheads is terrible, give the Shaggs a spin!
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« Reply #47 on: January 05, 2011, 12:27:03 AM »
I once played John Cage's 4:33 on the las pinas bamboo organ! Effortlessly!

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« Reply #48 on: January 05, 2011, 01:03:00 AM »
I once played John Cage's 4:33 on the las pinas bamboo organ! Effortlessly!

See, told you! Just from a single score, any instrument can play 4:33 ( I was off 3 seconds hehehehehe).

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« Reply #49 on: January 06, 2011, 10:58:11 AM »
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