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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2014, 11:28:05 AM »
yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako


Agreed :( sana nakapaglessons ako nung totoy pa :(
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2014, 11:31:24 AM »
yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako

ngayon ba? pikpik na?  :-D

jk bro!



Agreed :( sana nakapaglessons ako nung totoy pa :(

ngayon ba NENE ka na brad? I mean sis? I mean bro?  :lol:
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2014, 11:37:04 AM »
^ahhahaha.

may classes ba na ganyan? for "not really beginners but not an expert" hahha

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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2014, 11:42:46 AM »
ngayon ba? pikpik na?  :-D

jk bro!


ngayon ba NENE ka na brad? I mean sis? I mean bro?  :lol:

bwahahahahahaha!  :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2014, 11:47:17 AM »
ngayon ba? pikpik na?  :-D

jk bro!
hahaha yeah.

Back to blues, wala na akong alam i cover na blues song, dahil puro experiment licks nalang, sa totoo lang, wala naman talagang perfect bluesero, dahil puro improvise lang ang mga ito, look at hendrix, hindi niya na masyado inuulit mga ibang licks niya, dahil iniimprovise niya ang mga ito, favorite and iconic lick niya ay yung paulit-ulit na nasa key of Em. Maraming klase ng blues, hindi lang naman Traditional blues, meron ding Texas Blues, Modern Chicago Blues, Blues Rock etc, pero lahat ng yan nabuo lang ng imahinasyon at inspirasyon noong panahon. Ang Blues sa karamihan ng tao ngayon ay kinikilalang, Genre pang matanda  :-\ nakakainis na nakakatawa isipin pero totoo. Every true guitarist must know any of the blues.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2014, 11:52:11 AM »
^ panoorin mo si sir DELTA SLIM (taga philmusic din sya)
 mga blues licks nya orgasmic, but the music is really really sad!
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2014, 12:19:20 PM »
sa province namin may nakausap ako (1st and last time na nameet ko siya, a friend of a friend of a friend), casual kwentuhan lang habang may hawak na gitara. sabi ba naman "sino ba naman tang@ ang hindi marunong magblues?".

arrrggghhhh!

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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2014, 02:57:17 PM »
yeah, me want too, pero huli na, dapat noong patotoy pa ako

There is no such thing as huli na,May mga nAging students ako na lola at loll na,it's just the budget issues,if you want to take school formally I suggest look for a good teacher, research and save up to take couple of lessons,maybe around a dozen then your good to goal,just tell him your goal.
They Are no modules modules to take and levels,if you got your teachers concept and philosophy and polishing up the technique,then you are good to go.
Just to give a you a little background,I invested a dozen of lessons with one of the drum greats senior mar,god he gave a lesson of lifetime,still studying it right now,how to zero in when playing,breathing, practical chops that could sound different but it's just coming from one concept.still learning from that till today,there are no such thing as late paps,

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Batt na. :eek:
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From that experience I just learned that the standard blues progression is twelve bars in tonic,sub dominant,dominant and tonic form.hehe,I guess it's not just inborn.haha
Not just any guitarist, any instrumentalist must learn blues,I'm a drummer,and it's good to hear the progression of the guitar or piano,not just counting bars.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2014, 03:08:40 PM »


feeling Blue na yata si TS, di na nakasagot eh  :lol:
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« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2014, 03:21:18 PM »

feeling Blue na yata si TS, di na nakasagot eh  :lol:

Maybe he is conducting a scientific research to back up his statement. :idea:
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2014, 03:22:54 PM »
eric Clapton science
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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2014, 05:33:04 PM »
freakish blues.. sabi nga ni Jimi. (ayon sa pagkakarinig ko sa BBC sessions) ahaha

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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2014, 01:56:57 AM »
tama ka dyan!

pag gamit nga ng kutsara nung bata pa tayo tinuro satin at inaral natin
BLUES PA KAYA!

re: ERIC CLAPTON
pinagaralan nya po yung mga ginagawa nya ngayon!

pano yung?
1 day naglalakad si eric Clapton sa kanto TINIO then EUREKA! I will play blues!!!
then nag perfom na sya sa mga bars, nag record ng mga best selling LPs ng walang kahirap hirap!
INBORN E! di pinagaaralan!

wag mo i-literal, uu hindi ka naman matututong mag music nang hindi mo pag aaralan, ang point ko si Sir Clapton hindi pumasok sa kahit anong school para pag aralan ang blues, pinakinggan nya lang, tenga at kamay ang ginamit, hindi libro at lecture, hindi sya sa kanto TINIO nag punta para kumuha nang kaalaman, sa chicago pre, konting source din bago mambasag.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2014, 02:00:52 AM »
Lahat naman pwede matuto ng kahit anong form of music nang hindi nag-music school, baka mas mahirap lang compared sa mas more melodic forms of music like blues.

Actually, interesting na marami na akong nakausap at nabasa na gusto nila i-point out na hindi na kailangan mag-music school para maging [genre] musician. Dahil ba gusto niyo ng validation sa hindi niyo pagpasok sa music school? Or nadadayaan kayo sa eskwelahan? Or nasasayangan ka ba sa tuition fee?

Hindi ako nag-music school, pero naiinggit ako sa mga dumaan sa school - mas marami silang alam, mapa-blues man, rock, jazz, or pop. Mas practical rin sa music scene, lalo na kapag marunong mag-arrange at magsulat para sa mga kasama sa banda. At nung nag-aral rin ako magbasa ng notation, mas marami akong nakukuha ngayon na ideas sa net dahil dito, at mas mabilis pa akong natututo. Para sa akin lang naman, baka naman minsan mas nalilito nga yung iba sa tamang pag-aaral na nakakasira na sa musika.

Also, lahat naman may exceptions - hindi naman lahat ay kasing galing ni Clapton or BB King or Robert Johnson nung bata sila.

ano bang tingin mo kay clapton? magaling agad nung bata pa lang? madami syang pinagdaanan bro bago sya gumaling, actually sumama pa sa sya sa mga black people nung panahon pa nang slavery para lang matuto kahit alam nyang delekado, pero the rest ok na, at least alam kong nag kaintindihan na tayo.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2014, 02:40:22 AM »
ano bang tingin mo kay clapton? magaling agad nung bata pa lang? madami syang pinagdaanan bro bago sya gumaling, actually sumama pa sa sya sa mga black people nung panahon pa nang slavery para lang matuto kahit alam nyang delekado, pero the rest ok na, at least alam kong nag kaintindihan na tayo.

Citation please. Slaves ha. Hindi discrimination. But slavery.


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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2014, 03:21:07 AM »
wag mo i-literal, uu hindi ka naman matututong mag music nang hindi mo pag aaralan, ang point ko si Sir Clapton hindi pumasok sa kahit anong school para pag aralan ang blues, pinakinggan nya lang, tenga at kamay ang ginamit, hindi libro at lecture, hindi sya sa kanto TINIO nag punta para kumuha nang kaalaman, sa chicago pre, konting source din bago mambasag.

Chicago? Oh It seems you forgot that he already established a name in England among the emerging R&B musicians around '63,there he first earned the moniker "Slowhands". I don't seem to recall him going to Chicago first to acquire knowledge of the blues.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2014, 04:13:27 AM »
Chicago? Oh It seems you forgot that he already established a name in England among the emerging R&B musicians around '63,there he first earned the moniker "Slowhands". I don't seem to recall him going to Chicago first to acquire knowledge of the blues.

uu nag punta syang chicago at the age of 14 para kumuha at maghalungkat nang mga chords, dahil na din sa lack of sources nung panahong yon. sinabe nya un sa isang interview before a tribute concert na hindi ko na maalala.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2014, 04:21:25 AM »
Citation please. Slaves ha. Hindi discrimination. But slavery.

??? - be open minded lang sana Sir, even the african american people aware dto, hindi to discrimination, pnapaliwanag ko na even nung years of slavery nagawang sumama ni Clapton sa mga black people para mag aral nang blues, kahit delekado. sinasabe ko ung Times nang earlier 19th century not to offend someone under discrimination.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2014, 08:08:17 AM »
ano bang tingin mo kay clapton? magaling agad nung bata pa lang? madami syang pinagdaanan bro bago sya gumaling, actually sumama pa sa sya sa mga black people nung panahon pa nang slavery para lang matuto kahit alam nyang delekado, pero the rest ok na, at least alam kong nag kaintindihan na tayo.


Check your statement bro, the ts above said its inborn,what we are all pointing out it's not inborn,you have to learn by widow or formal school,we are NOT taking literally the statement but to who started the topic said its inborn. You see we added some HUMOR to it, but the fact that we have some idea how to be a good or great musician contradicts to the statement of ts above. You have the point as well,it's our point as well. You said it yourself,it's from experience etc. it's also what we said we just added some humor called sarcasm,if you can't detect it. Just to make it clear bro.
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2014, 09:34:09 AM »
ngayon ba? pikpik na?  :-D

jk bro!


ngayon ba NENE ka na brad? I mean sis? I mean bro?  :lol:


Opo 'teh. HAHAHAHAHA

hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2014, 09:50:59 AM »
wag mo i-literal, uu hindi ka naman matututong mag music nang hindi mo pag aaralan, ang point ko si Sir Clapton hindi pumasok sa kahit anong school para pag aralan ang blues, pinakinggan nya lang, tenga at kamay ang ginamit, hindi libro at lecture, hindi sya sa kanto TINIO nag punta para kumuha nang kaalaman, sa chicago pre, konting source din bago mambasag.
CHICAGO BA? hahaha sino LITERAL NGAYON?
diba nasa RICHMOND and Kingston sya? nung teen years nya? busker nya sya dun e diba?

uu nag punta syang chicago at the age of 14 para kumuha at maghalungkat nang mga chords, dahil na din sa lack of sources nung panahong yon. sinabe nya un sa isang interview before a tribute concert na hindi ko na maalala.

best selling naba mga records nya sa edad na katorse?


ayan o statement mo na yan! naghalungkat ng chords, bakit? pambalot ng tinapa? hindi!!! PARA PAGARALAN!

pano natin ihahandle tong discussion --> Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...

backread ka

self taught, self study  ---> kahit walang formal education sa music

ang point e nag aral parin.


kahit ikaw STATEMENT mo e, magaaral parin diba?

e ano ba kasi pinupunto mo?
malinaw naman ang point ko na PAGAARALAN PARIN, not necessarily formal education.

ilang percent ba ng mga kilalang musikero ang may formal education sa music?

natuto lang ako mag compose, mag improve etc dahil sa aid ng chord chart, scale table,songhits and magazines at sa mga jam mates ko. PERO WALA KO FORMAL EDUCATION sa music.

paanong WAG I-LITERAL? paano ba dapat? and linaw ng thread title


ERIC CLAPTON? totoong bluesero, inborn, hindi nya pinagaralan ang ginagawa nya ngayon?   <--- ganyan dapat?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton
http://www.ericclapton.com/eric-clapton-biography?page=0%2C0
http://www.preceden.com/timelines/477-clapton
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-clapton-9249026#musical-start&awesm=~oDrxrGmFLQgQNm
http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/biography/biography-eric-clapton


  <---  wala ako binabasag!


experience is the best teacher
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« Last Edit: May 06, 2014, 10:03:39 AM by fretboard »
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #71 on: May 06, 2014, 10:01:14 AM »
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2014, 11:18:00 AM »
CHICAGO BA? hahaha sino LITERAL NGAYON?
diba nasa RICHMOND and Kingston sya? nung teen years nya? busker nya sya dun e diba?

best selling naba mga records nya sa edad na katorse?


ayan o statement mo na yan! naghalungkat ng chords, bakit? pambalot ng tinapa? hindi!!! PARA PAGARALAN!

pano natin ihahandle tong discussion --> Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...

backread ka


kahit ikaw STATEMENT mo e, magaaral parin diba?

e ano ba kasi pinupunto mo?
malinaw naman ang point ko na PAGAARALAN PARIN, not necessarily formal education.

ilang percent ba ng mga kilalang musikero ang may formal education sa music?

natuto lang ako mag compose, mag improve etc dahil sa aid ng chord chart, scale table,songhits and magazines at sa mga jam mates ko. PERO WALA KO FORMAL EDUCATION sa music.

paanong WAG I-LITERAL? paano ba dapat? and linaw ng thread title


ERIC CLAPTON? totoong bluesero, inborn, hindi nya pinagaralan ang ginagawa nya ngayon?   <--- ganyan dapat?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Clapton
http://www.ericclapton.com/eric-clapton-biography?page=0%2C0
http://www.preceden.com/timelines/477-clapton
http://www.biography.com/people/eric-clapton-9249026#musical-start&awesm=~oDrxrGmFLQgQNm
http://www.lifetimetv.co.uk/biography/biography-eric-clapton


  <---  wala ako binabasag!


experience is the best teacher
  <-- inaral parin kaya nagka experience! anube!

hahaha ako binibiyak ko muna yung wetpaks para makita kung may yellow thingy hahahaha

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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2014, 12:11:20 PM »
yung pagiging Multi-Instrumentalist nyo, Inborn din ba? or pinag aralan?
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Re: ANG TOTOONG BLUESERO inborn... hindi pinag aaralan...
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2014, 02:05:13 PM »
Sino ba ang nakakaalam ng 10 greatest bluesero of all time? kung mas marami ang walang formal education eh panalo si ts. :)