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Title: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: badbach66 on October 11, 2009, 11:22:59 PM
I'll start with mine..

It was at a gig here in Bulacan, those typical "you're the 14th band to play so you have 10 minutes to setup you gear"  gigs. Basically, during setup, everything was ok, even though I was in a hurry,my board was functioning perfectly...Adjusted the volume levels/gain levels, etc..Nightmare comes during the intro of our first song. It was a cover of Black Sabbath's "War Pigs". I hit the first power chord, there was no sound coming at all from the amp.. :x my bandmates had to play a 5 minute version of the intro while I fiddled with my setup. It was pretty embarrasing..  :-D Turned out to be a faulty patch cable..I almost considered going back to multieffects after this..This isn't the only time I've experienced this..

How about our fellow forumites? Especially to those with an analog pedalboard setup. How do you guys deal with this type of situation?
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: digitalcyco on October 11, 2009, 11:30:37 PM

bank switch malfunction

a lot of our songs go from really raunchy metal to clean parts very very fast. if you lose the bank switch, you're good as dead playing clean parts with a distorted tone.

happened TWICE. I did not bother to have it fixed and I played the next gig the next day with still a faulty bank switch and you can imagine how horrible a Dm7 slap and pluck sounds like with all the distortions on.  :-(
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: donard on October 12, 2009, 07:23:48 AM
ganyan din ang nangyare kaso sound check palang ayaw ng gumana :-D

pitik pitik sa patch cables :-D

(ganto ginawa ko sa rig ng kabanda ko hehe) :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: arkeetar on October 12, 2009, 07:38:40 AM
a/b/c looper ko nag malfunction, lahat pa naman ng pedals ko dun naka connect,
tinanggal ko lang od at wah to amp ginawa ko  :lol:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: donard on October 12, 2009, 07:52:33 AM
a/b/c looper ko nag malfunction, lahat pa naman ng pedals ko dun naka connect,
tinanggal ko lang od at wah to amp ginawa ko  :lol:
ang daming nasayang sa pagdadala hehe :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: arkeetar on October 12, 2009, 08:19:10 AM
ang daming nasayang sa pagdadala hehe :-D

minsan lang naman nangyari haha binago ko ulit yung chain ko na pag may nag malfunction, gagana pa rin yung chain ko,
may dala akong backup patch/cables or isang extra dirt pedal :lol:

pero last resort mag rekta sa amp  :lol:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: donard on October 12, 2009, 09:00:25 AM
minsan lang naman nangyari haha binago ko ulit yung chain ko na pag may nag malfunction, gagana pa rin yung chain ko,
may dala akong backup patch/cables or isang extra dirt pedal :lol:

pero last resort mag rekta sa amp  :lol:

ayos pag sakin nangyare yun at di ko makita kung san nagmamalfunction wala na

baklasan na haha :-D

buti ka pa nakakapagdala ng extra dirt pag nagdala pa ko nun di na ko makakarating sa gig haha

wala akong tsekot hehe :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: arkeetar on October 12, 2009, 09:17:59 AM
ayos pag sakin nangyare yun at di ko makita kung san nagmamalfunction wala na
<br [pichapie] na haha :-D

buti ka pa nakakapagdala ng extra dirt pag nagdala pa ko nun di na ko makakarating sa gig haha

wala akong tsekot hehe :-D

hehe madalas naman malapit lang mga gig namin sa Bulacan, party party lang hehe kaya madali magdala ng gear  :lol:
basta dala ko...
amp
1/2 guitar - strat at singlecut

pedalboard at gig bag hehe

walang taxi s'min kaya minsan tricycle lang haha  :lol:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: charlz on October 12, 2009, 01:20:41 PM
one time dati battle yun eh..kasi setup ko dati mt2-noise gate tpos multi..the noise gate was a boston pedal..pininturahan ko siya b4 the gig at direcho balik..nagulat nalang ko during the gig  pag apak to mt2 wala na tunog na lumalabas..i played the all songs straight sa amp hinabol nalang sa kunting amp dist at pinapaty ko rin pag clean parts hehe..kakahiya nga eh nagdala pa ako gadget yun pala ganun rin mangyari.. i found out na mejo ng loose mga screws nun boston dahil binalik ko nang di pa mashadong tuyo..hehe yun pala yun.. :-D   
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: rednas on October 12, 2009, 02:06:49 PM
Naka encounter na ko na may problema yung power sa gig venue... ayaw talaga mag power up ng supply ko (Paguwi I tried it and ok naman).  Napilitan ako ng Guitar to amp, kulit panaman ng set (night to remember,  play that funky music, jackson 5 medley kalimutan ko na yung isa...).  Nabuhay ako ng gamit Fender Princeton lang, manual switch lang. Haha.  That was a fun gig, bday ng isang big time na politiko...
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: junkfazz on October 12, 2009, 02:11:45 PM
Ako din sa patch cable namroblema. Pipitik-pitikin ng paa mo yung cables para gumana tapos rinig na rinig yung garalgal pag inaayos yung cable.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: nineworkz on October 13, 2009, 12:45:52 AM
awa ng diyos, minsan lang nagka malfunction ang board ko (reg.pedals)
it was a gig in Baguio, ok na sa setup pero at times in the song napapansin ko
distorted ang cleans ko and humihina...konting adjust adjust sa cables
then ok na pero it was really uncomfortable to me... :cry:

checked the board the next morning...pedals/cables and all...culprit was not the
patch cables, it was the 2 old school flangers that ive been severely beating (literally!)
my fave DOD FX75B and a battered Jap BF-2! all their outputs were slightly loose!
and ayun paayus sa Subzero FX agad (thanks Neil!) agad! resolder and tightened
loose parts! problem solved! eversince hindi na nagloko...(knock on wood)  :-)
___

anyways i always have back up plans if ever may pedal or sumthin went
wrongs sa setup ko (im a big fan of extreme effects usage lalo na pag live)...
things like sending my guitar to just one multi then to amp, or a drive/delay/phase
to amp...that is kung worst case to worst na hindi ko maisolate ung probs...

kaya madalas (and way way back i started playing) hours and hours before the gig
i always check my rig and setup just to double check and make sure everythings
working fine!

rock on!
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: anoemous on October 13, 2009, 01:04:53 AM
Sa akin naman sa multieffects nangyari, it was 3 years ago nung 1st tym ko makagamit ng multieffects and Zoom 505 yung nabili ko (may very first purchase ko dito sa PM).

We were playing for a band competition then suddenly in the middle of the first song bigla na lang nagkukusang lumipat ng bank yung 505 ko, parang engot yung tunog nung gitara ko nun hehe, so on the second song hiniram ko na lang yung distortion ng vocalist namin tapos rumekta na lang siya sa amp. It turned out na sira na pala yung bank switch ng 505, so ayun kinabukasan pinaayos ko kagad.  :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: pings15 on October 22, 2009, 01:36:06 PM
PSU died...
   
unplug, and then rekta mode. then use the drive channel.
   
never sounded better in my life..
since then rekta mode na ako parati using my amp
haha!
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: melody_guitar on October 23, 2009, 03:31:04 AM
ako palagi ko baon ang century OD pedal ko (likely an SD1 clone).. so dirt and clean lang if worst scenario comes..di kasi talaga maiwasan yang mga ganyan kahit pa analog or multi ka,,

even professionals and pros eh nagkakaron din ng ganyan situation minsan eh...

the rule is that the more effects you have on the board, the more likely it will malfunction at sa dami nun, matatagalan ka matrace kund saan yung malfunction,,hehehe
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: turiguiliano on October 23, 2009, 04:42:47 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: cky on October 23, 2009, 08:45:21 AM
mostly PSU related problems and cable (board to amp or guitar to board) failures...hassle lang kasi pag nasa gitna na ng song then biglang mawawala...there was a time when I was using generic adaptor for my zoom multifx, loose yung DC in nya so pag may lumulundag nawawala tunog ko... :lol:
of course worst case, i plug my guitar directly to the amp, problema kung bano yung amp na gamit nyo...
or sometimes kung may spare battery yung distortion, yun nalang..


ngayon lagi nako nagdadala ng extra cables and i charge my batteries 2 days before a predicted gig.... :-)
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: kiiimpoiii on October 29, 2009, 12:55:02 AM
skin ngyari dati patch cable setup,

hahhah... gaya nung mga nauna... patch cable din ngging problem ko nung pure stomp pa ako...nka boss setup ako nun...

gmit ko ung mga diy na patch cables.....

kea pinalitan ko ung mga patch cables ko na fixed na kpag nasira tapon na...pra less hassle...

ska i change my rig na may multi na GT5

gt5/ echotron/ nova delay/ ts808/ proco rat/ zakk wylde wah / tu12/ a+b looper

hahaha.. pumalpak man xa may option b at c pa which is rekta sa amp....

sa church ngyayari skin yun dati sa gigs dpa nmn....

SUGGESTION: try using those patches like ung  sa surelock or ung nabibili sa lyric.... less contact sa outside yun dhil closed ska nka hinang na kea dikit na dikit xa
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: paolo_du on October 29, 2009, 12:19:52 PM
This one gig, I had to use the crappy in-house amp without effects because none of my pedals worked! Walang sound na lumalabas, pero may power naman. Yun pala after the set, I realized na baliktad pala saksak ko.

Guitar ko nakaconnect pala sa out ng effects, tapos yung amp, nakaconnect sa input. heheeheheh.  :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: badbach66 on October 29, 2009, 01:07:04 PM
Sa akin naman sa multieffects nangyari, it was 3 years ago nung 1st tym ko makagamit ng multieffects and Zoom 505 yung nabili ko (may very first purchase ko dito sa PM).

We were playing for a band competition then suddenly in the middle of the first song bigla na lang nagkukusang lumipat ng bank yung 505 ko, parang engot yung tunog nung gitara ko nun hehe, so on the second song hiniram ko na lang yung distortion ng vocalist namin tapos rumekta na lang siya sa amp. It turned out na sira na pala yung bank switch ng 505, so ayun kinabukasan pinaayos ko kagad.  :-D

I had a Zoom 505 before (around 1999 pa un), my very first multi-effects. I loved it to death, had a lot of good times with it, but I really had a problem with it's footswitches, & ung bank switch in particular.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: mjpartinez on October 29, 2009, 01:20:02 PM
solo ko nawalan ng volume

 turns out wala  palang power na naka daan sa wah ( although me true bypass) everytime na pag-apak ko sa wah na cucut off ako sa amp :-D

buti napansin ko kagad ( natanggal pa la yung isang cord ng psu)

mga 8 bars akong wala haha
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: rukero on October 29, 2009, 01:33:59 PM
I used to have a Boss PSA-120 to power my LS-2 daisy chained with my other Boss pedals.  Sobrang excited na makatugtog, I plugged the PSA direct without my step-up converter.  Yon, sunog si PSA.  No pedalboard...derecho na lang sa amp.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: ron21 on October 29, 2009, 05:45:16 PM
Pwede ba user malfunction??? hehehe

sa pedalboard wala naman ako nagiging problema (awa ng diyos). Pero one time sa sobrang kalasingan ako ang nagmalfunction  :lol: in the middle of the song, naapakan ko yung RC2. Ayun! tumugtog yung drum machine, buti na lang walang naka save sa patch. Sakto an lakas pa naman ng volume. nag TUG PAK TUG PAK siya ng walang humpay. hehehe!!!

Lesson learned, wag dalhin ang mga hindi kailangan (ang hirap naman kase mag tanggal-kabet ng pedal sa board). hahahaha!!!  :lol:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: jjgalvan on October 29, 2009, 05:52:44 PM
ako naman date kasi una sa chain ko BOSS DS2.. ok naman lahat ang katangahan ko lang ehh nasaksak ko yung input jack ko sa
REMOTE ng ds2.. hehehe..

pinagpawisan ako ng malamig nun :x mga 5mins ko panaman bago nadiscover hehehehe.. lesson learned..

wag papasukan ang maling butas :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: jjgalvan on October 29, 2009, 06:02:10 PM
tama. wag mo basta basta pasukan ang bawat butas. icheck mo muna :mrgreen:
hehe.. sige magsama ako ng butas checker :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: rockyteer on October 29, 2009, 06:03:28 PM
live telecast, PBB saturday show. sakto pag cue ng director, nawala tunog ng gitara ko. buti na lang nadaan sa drums and vocals kasi yung kanta "Doo Wah diddy" hehe.

Yun pala may nakatapak na studio guy dun sa power outlet. kung san nakasaksak yung amp.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: jjgalvan on October 29, 2009, 06:07:29 PM
live telecast, PBB saturday show. sakto pag cue ng director, nawala tunog ng gitara ko. buti na lang nadaan sa drums and vocals kasi yung kanta "Doo Wah diddy" hehe.

Yun pala may nakatapak na studio guy dun sa power outlet. kung san nakasaksak yung amp.
nainis ka? anu naramdaman mo sa nakatapak? kainis yun! :-D haha..
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: rockyteer on October 29, 2009, 06:11:10 PM
nainis ka? anu naramdaman mo sa nakatapak? kainis yun! :-D haha..


wala bro, hindi umamin eh, siguro baka natatakot mapagalitan ng director.

may nagsabi lang sa akin na witness. hehe

tanggap na lang, wala din naman mangyayari kung magalit ka pa :)
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: lenpopz on October 29, 2009, 06:17:57 PM
Sana may pedals na ako ng may maishare ako dito,hayz. :oops:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: jjgalvan on October 29, 2009, 06:19:23 PM

wala bro, hindi umamin eh, siguro baka natatakot mapagalitan ng director.

may nagsabi lang sa akin na witness. hehe

tanggap na lang, wala din naman mangyayari kung magalit ka pa :)

haha.. pero nakakinis yun diba.. agaw eksena.  :-D so ayus naman kinalabasan?
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: masterchoxter on October 29, 2009, 07:08:52 PM
not my own experience but nevertheless...

i once read someone's post here at GC that he had an issue with his board (well, he thought it was a pedalboard issue)... anyway, he said that his rig starting humming, hissing, and crackling when he turned it on...

he remembered that he organized his gear properly before the gig and that it never had any issues during that time... then his girlfriend/wife told him after his gig that she put nail polish on the contact area of the plugs of his cables because it looked good due to the veneer (it was shiny)... lolz...

just wanted to share...  :wink:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: kiiimpoiii on October 30, 2009, 11:54:55 PM
not my own experience but nevertheless...

i once read someone's post here at GC that he had an issue with his board (well, he thought it was a pedalboard issue)... anyway, he said that his rig starting humming, hissing, and crackling when he turned it on...

he remembered that he organized his gear properly before the gig and that it never had any issues during that time... then his girlfriend/wife told him after his gig that she put nail polish on the contact area of the plugs of his cables because it looked good due to the veneer (it was shiny)... lolz...

just wanted to share...  :wink:

panalo!!!!
sobrang dedicated ang gf mapansin lng hahah
nice masterchoxter!!!
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: zrehtiek on October 31, 2009, 12:54:13 AM
Pwede ba user malfunction??? hehehe

sa pedalboard wala naman ako nagiging problema (awa ng diyos). Pero one time sa sobrang kalasingan ako ang nagmalfunction  :lol: in the middle of the song, naapakan ko yung RC2. Ayun! tumugtog yung drum machine, buti na lang walang naka save sa patch. Sakto an lakas pa naman ng volume. nag TUG PAK TUG PAK siya ng walang humpay. hehehe!!!

Lesson learned, wag dalhin ang mga hindi kailangan (ang hirap naman kase mag tanggal-kabet ng pedal sa board). hahahaha!!!  :lol:

natawa ko dito hahaha
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: sinosimelo on December 13, 2009, 12:22:26 AM
 :-D
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: sixdayoldstring on December 13, 2009, 01:44:36 AM
had one unforgettable experience..

musiklaban semi's (can't remember kung '04 or '05) at lipa, batangas..dahil sa katamaran, instead of bringing my rack+foot controller with me, i just brought a marshall shredmaster and a zoom 505II, both borrowed from a friend (galing pa manila so hassle magbitbit)..though this friend had warned me na may topak yung 505 nya, i still insisted..the soundcheck went ok..

here comes the real performance..in the middle of our cover song, pag-apak ko nung 505 it started squeeling and buzzing loudly..i had no choice but to disconnect it from my setup, and it was the most embarrassing experience i had in my life..pinatawad naman ako ng mga kabanda ko pagkatapos..it was after the event na naisipan ko syang buksan at i-check, and the pcb mount input had a broken solder joint..naayos ko sya, kaso tapos na yung event..

from then on, i bring my complete battlegear each jam, or gig...kahit gano pa kabigat..
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: deadlifted on December 13, 2009, 03:32:44 AM
hindi naman talaga malufunction... pero last night sa gig, i was using my Danelectro TOD as a lead booster kaso madilim sa bar at hindi ko makita yung pedal kung san siya tatapakan. nakakaasar talaga yun sa Dano pedals kasi maliit lang yung area ng switch nila. buti pa yung boss pedals, malaki yung area ng aapakan. kahit san mo apakan yung mag-on or off yung pedal. yung Dano kelangan sakto dun sa switch.

now im planning to buy a glow in the dark sticker at lalagyan ko yung TOD ko. para next time alam ko na kung san mismo ako aapak hehe.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: bluefist on January 25, 2013, 06:24:20 PM
eto sa akin..one of our show sa town plaza sa amin, i brought my amp and my gfx5...set it up nicely so ok na..i went down the stage to have conversation sa mga kakilala..then went our set...opening song is narda...pag apak ko sa multi ko walang lumabas na tunog sa amp...pero sa speaker ng mobile meron....dont have a choice but to continue playing...after the song i checked on the amp and to my surprised the tech guy of the mobile connect the line out of the mixer to the send of my amp effects loop....f****** tech, he never told me...lesson, always talk to the tech guy of the sound system...
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: tonwins11 on January 25, 2013, 06:49:07 PM
Been using a zoom g2.1u during a wedding gig. When I was changing the patch na sana for a solo, since malaki yung leather shoes ko, I accidentally hit both the patch and the expression pedal which was acting as volume pedal. Walang tunog! Sablay! Habol na lang ako.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: tonwins11 on January 25, 2013, 06:52:34 PM
Naka encounter na ko na may problema yung power sa gig venue... ayaw talaga mag power up ng supply ko (Paguwi I tried it and ok naman).  Napilitan ako ng Guitar to amp, kulit panaman ng set (night to remember,  play that funky music, jackson 5 medley kalimutan ko na yung isa...).  Nabuhay ako ng gamit Fender Princeton lang, manual switch lang. Haha.  That was a fun gig, bday ng isang big time na politiko...

In this, mahirap pag sa middle ng kanta ito nangyari. To which din, in relation to me, as much as possible, true bypass yung mga pedals ko. Para pag nagloko yung PSU, eh dadaan parin yung signal ng guitar ko.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: IncX on January 25, 2013, 08:18:12 PM
my pedalboard malfunction was usually because of crappy cables ... then i got Lava ELC's, and my board malfunctioned more.

Lava ELC's are overpriced pieces of crap IMO - ok, the cable material is nice, but the learning curve and resulting headache is not worth the $$$ you are paying for. the only time my board functioned without problems was when i took out the Lava ELC's, and used those space-hogging planet waves.

the other time my pedal board malfunctioned was when i used those stupid Carl Martin pedals that require a 110v power socket. i ended up plugging it in a 220v line and voila! fried pedal... its just a good thing Carl Martin had the decency to make it true-bypass, so the pedal board still went on.

then finally, the last time my pedalboard malfunctioned was when i chained 2 Strymon pedals on my BBE power supply. for some reason, one of the pedals refused to turn on but maybe thats because i starved the unit by using 200mA instead of the 250mA the manual said it required.

those are my top 3, with Lava ELC's topping the list as "number 1 cause of malfunction in my pedal board" ... expensive does not usually mean, good.
Title: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: Poundcake on January 25, 2013, 09:49:22 PM
Last November, I played guitar for the CCF worship band at the largest retreat of the year (B1G 8). My power supply (a Gator G-BUS-8) kept on crapping out because it got dislodged from its mounting spot under my Pedaltrain 2. The pedals turned on and off erratically and I got fed up so I just plugged straight into the amp.

I then changed my power supply to a Decibel 11 Hot Stone Deluxe, which can be mounted under my pedalboard using the free brackets.
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: denden009 on January 26, 2013, 09:01:46 AM
This happened last January 10. Nung nasa bahay ako okay na okay pa yung Metal Muff ko pero nung mag set na kami sa gig, kahit naka engage ung pedal clean tone yung lumalabas, even itodo ko ung gain knob at volume knob clean tone na may malakas na his lang ung lumalabas. Napaka badtrip nung gabing yun, dagdag mo pang last band kami, and until now nasa nag rerepair parin ung pedal.  :eek:
Title: Re: Pedalboard malfunction during gigs, share your stories here!
Post by: titser_marco on January 12, 2018, 06:50:16 PM
Have always resorted to plugging straight to an amp if the issue happens within a song. Else, I try to troubleshoot between songs.