Author Topic: Is it okay to put stickers on cymbals? (Read 4234 times)

cfbackbone™ · « **on:** September 10, 2007, 08:44:03 AM »

hi guys!

is it ok to put stickers on cymbals? umm, sa ilalim naman kung sakali. may nakita kasi ako one time na drummer na may sticker sya (decal) under his 16" crash. ganda lang tignan pag-swing nung crash after he hits it kasi yung ginamit nyang decal yung metallic silver.

tnx sa magrereply.peace!

marvinq · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2007, 08:53:47 AM »

well, actually, some session drummers i know do put masking tape on their cymbals to shorten the decay and increase stick definition. as long as you don't mind those things happening on your crash cymbals, i guess it's okay to put stickers on them. just take extra care to not mess too much with the balance of your cymbals. doing so might shorten their useful lives.

stiknstone · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2007, 08:56:46 AM »

its depends on the user sir..kc sa tingin ko sir magbabago ang tunog ng cymbals pag may stickers..just my opinion sir..peace out!

cfbackbone™ · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2007, 09:37:03 AM »

tnx!. naisip ko lang din to since once you bought a brand new cymbal, you will see bar codes or serial numbers attached underneath the cymbal.

kibohead · « **Reply #4 on:** September 11, 2007, 11:57:31 AM »

i sometimes use duct tapes to limit overtones. i usually use it on my ride.

cfbackbone™ · « **Reply #5 on:** September 11, 2007, 02:05:55 PM »

Quote from: kibohead on September 11, 2007, 11:57:31 AM

i sometimes use duct tapes to limit overtones. i usually use it on my ride.

ah pwede pala yun? hmm. permanent na ba yung duct tape nyo? di ba sya nagiiwan ng ugly marks sa cymbals na mahirap tanggalin?

marvinq · « **Reply #6 on:** September 11, 2007, 03:55:23 PM »

that's okay, if you want the muffling to be as permanent...

drumster · « **Reply #7 on:** September 11, 2007, 04:07:27 PM »

Personally, I would only do it if I need to muffle some overtones from a cymbal. Pero kung para lang sa porma, I won't put stickers or decals. I like my cymbals' natural appearance to speak for itself; clean and classy.

There are some commercially-made cymbal "mutes" available on the market.

cfbackbone™ · « **Reply #8 on:** September 11, 2007, 04:43:39 PM »

yah, maganda naman talaga original looks ng cymbals lalo na kung shiny and falwless pa. cguro natuwa lang ako sa nakita ko na my silver decal sa ilalim. hehe.

mejo OT question:
di po ba may nabibiling logos na nilalagay sa cymbals like logo nung sabian? parang for restoration purposes sya. san po gawa yun? sticker ba yun?

drumster · « **Reply #9 on:** September 12, 2007, 03:30:14 AM »

Quote from: cfbackbone™ on September 11, 2007, 04:43:39 PM

mejo OT question:
di po ba may nabibiling logos na nilalagay sa cymbals like logo nung sabian? parang for restoration purposes sya. san po gawa yun? sticker ba yun?

As far as I know, the logos and prints on cymbals are applied on cymbals by silkscreen process during its manufacturing stage.

The after-market logos for cymbals with worn-out or faded-out logos, I think those are decals. Correct me if I'm wrong.

sjon014 · « **Reply #10 on:** September 12, 2007, 08:10:38 AM »

I saw the Sabian Logo Renewal Kit for the first time yesterday. There were three sabian logo stencils of different sizes and a (gasp!) Felt-tip Marker to fill the stencils with!

drumster · « **Reply #11 on:** September 12, 2007, 08:14:29 AM »

Oh... So those are just simple stencils, and we just have to fill it out with simple ink?

How much does it cost?

cfbackbone™ · « **Reply #12 on:** September 12, 2007, 08:22:45 AM »

Quote from: sjon014 on September 12, 2007, 08:10:38 AM

I saw the Sabian Logo Renewal Kit for the first time yesterday. There were three sabian logo stencils of different sizes and a (gasp!) Felt-tip Marker to fill the stencils with!

stencils? hmm, so meaning, we can actually do it ourselves or pagawa sa mga gumagawa ng car decals? bigay ka lang ng corel file (corel kasi gamit nung nasa megamall sa basement malapit sa bio research). kung ink din lang madali lang cguro yun. if i were not mistaken, i think the logo renewal kit is around 3k. expensive for a stencil (kung stencil nga sya).

rasta_gopz · « **Reply #13 on:** September 12, 2007, 09:23:53 AM »

depende kasi yan sir
ako madalas nilalagay ko sa ride para mabawasan lang yung overtone i haven't tried it sa ibang cymbals ko,

peeves24 · « **Reply #14 on:** September 12, 2007, 09:57:54 AM »

Quote from: cfbackbone™ on September 11, 2007, 02:05:55 PM

ah pwede pala yun? hmm. permanent na ba yung duct tape nyo? di ba sya nagiiwan ng ugly marks sa cymbals na mahirap tanggalin?

bawasan mo yung adhesive nung duct tape muna, idikit mo sa pantalon mo several times at pag medyo di na madikit, saka mo ilagay sa cymbal para hindi mahirap tanggalin yung dumi

cfbackbone™ · « **Reply #15 on:** September 12, 2007, 01:15:45 PM »

Quote from: peeves24 on September 12, 2007, 09:57:54 AM

bawasan mo yung adhesive nung duct tape muna, idikit mo sa pantalon mo several times at pag medyo di na madikit, saka mo ilagay sa cymbal para hindi mahirap tanggalin yung dumi

ay oo nga. nababawasan dikit pag ilang beses sya nadikit sa surfaces like yung mga tela ng pantalon. gano karami ba (or gano kahaba) ang ideal na ilalagay na duct tape to lessen the overtone?

unnailed · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2009, 01:36:31 PM »

pag planet z pwede ba?
kasi balak ko pong bumili ng planetz n hihat top na my konting crack or wala crack.. tapos papa "CYMBAL CUTTING SERVICE" ko gagawin kong splash

reresize ko nang 12 and 10(dalawa bibilin k n hihat top) tapos pa pa "CYMBAL CLEANING SERVICE" ko taspos papa lagyan ko ng logo.. kung may "CYMBAL PAINTING SEVICE?

"

naisip ko lang po mga sir kc cant afford po ako...

alternatives lang po...

bginer lang po ako...

paeng16 · « **Reply #17 on:** September 10, 2009, 01:19:57 PM »

Quote from: unnailed on July 28, 2009, 01:36:31 PM

pag planet z pwede ba?
kasi balak ko pong bumili ng planetz n hihat top na my konting crack or wala crack.. tapos papa "CYMBAL CUTTING SERVICE" ko gagawin kong splash reresize ko nang 12 and 10(dalawa bibilin k n hihat top) tapos pa pa "CYMBAL CLEANING SERVICE" ko taspos papa lagyan ko ng logo.. kung may "CYMBAL PAINTING SEVICE?"

naisip ko lang po mga sir kc cant afford po ako... alternatives lang po... bginer lang po ako...

Pangit ata kalalabasan nun men... and the cost for all those works will eventually be near a new cymbal (splash). Mag wuhan kanalang men...

9_spiral · « **Reply #18 on:** September 10, 2009, 01:31:49 PM »

Quote from: unnailed on July 28, 2009, 01:36:31 PM

pag planet z pwede ba?
kasi balak ko pong bumili ng planetz n hihat top na my konting crack or wala crack.. tapos papa "CYMBAL CUTTING SERVICE" ko gagawin kong splash reresize ko nang 12 and 10(dalawa bibilin k n hihat top) tapos pa pa "CYMBAL CLEANING SERVICE" ko taspos papa lagyan ko ng logo.. kung may "CYMBAL PAINTING SEVICE?"

naisip ko lang po mga sir kc cant afford po ako... alternatives lang po... bginer lang po ako...

I strongly advise you bro na wag mo gawin yan hehe. Iba ung kapal ng hi-hat top sa splash, baka magsisi ka lang sa kinalabasan. Planet Z pa, brass yun. May kaibigan ako, parang ewan lang ginawang crash ung hats nya (top and bottom), sobrang olats. Haha. Masabi lang na may crash. Kung ako sa yo, bili ka na lang Stagg SH splashes sa TMS, Hi-fi lounge or sa stagepoint sa raon. Mura pa. Cast bronze na rin yun bro, same composition tulad ng mga A customs, AAX's, etc. At maganda nito, mura pa, hindi rin nasacrifice ang tunog kasi magaganda tumunog ang SH. I'm planning to buy 8" SH splash someday.

kimpoy19 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 10, 2009, 07:46:48 PM »

depende po sa dila mo.

paeng16 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 14, 2009, 01:55:50 PM »

Quote from: 9_spiral on September 10, 2009, 01:31:49 PM

I strongly advise you bro na wag mo gawin yan hehe. Iba ung kapal ng hi-hat top sa splash, baka magsisi ka lang sa kinalabasan. Planet Z pa, brass yun. May kaibigan ako, parang ewan lang ginawang crash ung hats nya (top and bottom), sobrang olats. Haha. Masabi lang na may crash. Kung ako sa yo, bili ka na lang Stagg SH splashes sa TMS, Hi-fi lounge or sa stagepoint sa raon. Mura pa. Cast bronze na rin yun bro, same composition tulad ng mga A customs, AAX's, etc. At maganda nito, mura pa, hindi rin nasacrifice ang tunog kasi magaganda tumunog ang SH. I'm planning to buy 8" SH splash someday.

Dude.. mukhang hindi ata SAME yung STAGG sa mga A Custom, AAX, etc.,

"maybe" near to same composition ang cast bronze pero there is MORE to it men...

There is also the issue na sound consistency, lathing, hammering, etc... (your post is misleading)...

9_spiral · « **Reply #21 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:11:04 PM »

ah..bro ang sinasabi ko pareho ang A customs and Stagg SH na cast bronze or B20 na compositon, pero tama ka may ibang factors pa rin like lathing, hammering etc. Wala naman ako sinabi na magkalapit sila ng tunog hehe

In my experience, warm and trashy ang SH crashes while A customs have a glassy and bright sound on it. I still recommend unnailed na magStagg SH na lang kesa ipa-cut ang top hats ng planet z para gawing splash, kasi SH splashes, composed of B20, have a more decent sound than brass (my preference)

peace

sjon014 · « **Reply #22 on:** September 14, 2009, 09:17:48 PM »

Quote from: 9_spiral on September 14, 2009, 09:11:04 PM

kasi SH splashes, composed of B20, have a more decent sound than brass (my preference) peace

Tama nga naman.

B8 vs B20 is debatable (Paistes come to mind) but brass vs B20? Kahit "chinese B20" pa ang SH, dun na ko.

mr. trigger · « **Reply #23 on:** September 17, 2009, 01:59:39 AM »

Quote from: sjon014 on September 14, 2009, 09:17:48 PM

Tama nga naman.

B8 vs B20 is debatable (Paistes come to mind) but brass vs B20? Kahit "chinese B20" pa ang SH, dun na ko.

panalong sagot!

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