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Title: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on March 30, 2007, 04:53:52 AM: Brass, Copper, or Steel snare? Which material would you choose between the 3 and why? :? (just the 3..no aluminum, no wood)

Assuming specs is 14x5..

Pearl brand..

Please advice.. :wink:
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Diadem on March 30, 2007, 05:23:55 AM: havent used copper yet...

but between brass and steel?

bras is more sensitive i think...

and steel is less sensitive
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: drumster on March 30, 2007, 05:35:48 AM: Brass is a very musical material for instruments (hence, used on brass instruments such as trumpets, trombones, etc.). It is also versatile sound-wise, and is often the most bright-sounding.

I haven't tried or heard a copper shell snare drum yet. But I have the impression that copper snares are slightly warmer and more mellow, compared to other metal snares.

When I want some added projection and more metallic presence sound-wise, I would go for a steel-shell snare.

But then again, not all snare drums are the same. Many factors are involved - shell construction, shell size, shell thickness, bearing edges, drumhead selection, snare wires, hardware, tuning, etc etc...

If I have to choose one, I'll most likely go for a brass-shelled metal snare drum.
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: peeves24 on March 30, 2007, 07:41:00 AM: black brass

(http://www.pearleurope.com/mediafiles/images/product/010_scb-1450b_large.jpg)

yummy

tingnan mo na lang specs dito:

http://www.pearleurope.com/pearleurope.asp?contentpage=%2Fcontent%2Fproducts%2Fdefault%2Easp?classmainid=2^classsubid=125^classsubsubid=^productid=24
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jacobus on March 30, 2007, 08:29:53 AM: i duno what material is used for the snare pearl ultracast but those i like... i duno what material though..
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jpmb on March 30, 2007, 11:05:11 AM: Quote from: jacobus on March 30, 2007, 08:29:53 AM
i duno what material is used for the snare pearl ultracast but those i like... i duno what material though..

3mm cast aluminum bro :wink:
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jacobus on March 30, 2007, 02:25:07 PM: yeah.. and those are great sounding... thats why i bought mine
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Gep on March 30, 2007, 03:02:43 PM: TAMA BELL BRASS FTW

Pero sa tingin ko ok din ang copper, kasi nako-combine din niya ang good qualities ng wood at steel. Warmth, projection, cut, sensitivity rolled into one.

Sayang wala nang Pearl copper piccolo sa Perfect Pitch *hint* *hint*. :-D
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on March 30, 2007, 04:08:54 PM: Quote from: peeves24 on March 30, 2007, 07:41:00 AM
black brass

(http://www.pearleurope.com/mediafiles/images/product/010_scb-1450b_large.jpg)

yummy

tingnan mo na lang specs dito:

http://www.pearleurope.com/pearleurope.asp?contentpage=%2Fcontent%2Fproducts%2Fdefault%2Easp?classmainid=2^classsubid=125^classsubsubid=^productid=24

That's one of my options exactly sir Peeves..kaso discontinued na sa US yang model na yan and I'm really having a hard time finding one.. :|

That's why Im expanding my options nalang to other brass..copper..steel :oops:
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jpmb on March 30, 2007, 04:11:05 PM: Quote from: jacobus on March 30, 2007, 02:25:07 PM
yeah.. and those are great sounding... thats why i bought mine

thats nice..enjoy that snare and always treasure it..thats a drummers dream snare and there is only a few of you who has that snare here :wink:
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jpmb on March 30, 2007, 04:13:13 PM: Quote from: Gep on March 30, 2007, 03:02:43 PM
TAMA BELL BRASS FTW

Pero sa tingin ko ok din ang copper, kasi nako-combine din niya ang good qualities ng wood at steel. Warmth, projection, cut, sensitivity rolled into one.

Sayang wala nang Pearl copper piccolo sa Perfect Pitch *hint* *hint*. :-D

dude we never had a copper picolo in our perfect pitch stores.. :wink:

maple, steel at brass lang pinasok namin...fyi :wink:
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on March 30, 2007, 04:19:56 PM: Bro JP kayos sir any comments on the three metals? Please do :-D
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Gep on March 30, 2007, 04:43:29 PM: Quote from: jpmb on March 30, 2007, 04:13:13 PM
dude we never had a copper picolo in our perfect pitch stores.. :wink:

maple, steel at brass lang pinasok namin...fyi :wink:

Arghness. Ok! Baka yung brass yun.
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: intake on March 30, 2007, 09:28:21 PM: natry ko na picolo snare ng fernando both brass and steel...between the two, mas pabor ako sa brass :-)
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jeva on March 30, 2007, 09:45:54 PM: I have tama brass snare, and I love it... ung nga lang e, that is just for me, coz im just a newbie, and so far, ung stock n pearl export steel snare at itong Tama brass ko lang ang na try ko...

by the way, its a 14x5.5. ito pics nya sa website ng tama

(http://www.tamadrum.co.jp/japan/products/snaredrums/regular/brass/images/PBS355AN.gif)

I could say i got it for a very good price, considering its condition.
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on March 31, 2007, 04:50:13 AM: Quote from: jeva on March 30, 2007, 09:45:54 PM
I have tama brass snare, and I love it... ung nga lang e, that is just for me, coz im just a newbie, and so far, ung stock n pearl export steel snare..

Meron export stock na steel snare? :? Really?
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jeva on March 31, 2007, 10:17:56 AM: Quote from: Akira JUMBO on March 31, 2007, 04:50:13 AM
Meron export stock na steel snare? :? Really?

Hindi ba steel snare yung stock na snare na kasama ng Pearl Export? Mali ba? Gnun kasi kasama ng export n nabili ko. 90's model pa yun.
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: intake on April 01, 2007, 03:35:26 PM: yung lumang export naka steel snare eh, yung bago ang naka wood AFAIK :-)
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jeva on April 01, 2007, 03:37:42 PM: Quote from: intake on April 01, 2007, 03:35:26 PM
yung lumang export naka steel snare eh, yung bago ang naka wood AFAIK :-)

Yup! That could be the reason. Pareho pala tyo ng kit.
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: intake on April 01, 2007, 03:42:31 PM: teka OT:

yung 90's na pearl export yung may mahabang lug no?
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jeva on April 01, 2007, 03:51:07 PM: Quote from: intake on April 01, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
teka OT:

yung 90's na pearl export yung may mahabang lug no?
Yes, yung mahaba na may kanto, kasi ung isa n sumunod, mahaba, pero rounded.

OT: Wla ka bang i didispose na toms? Kaw ba first owner? Someone was selling that before sa ebay, kaya lang 20+K e.
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: Akira JUMBO on April 02, 2007, 01:49:17 AM: Quote from: intake on April 01, 2007, 03:35:26 PM
yung lumang export naka steel snare eh, yung bago ang naka wood AFAIK :-)

oic :lol: nice to know..I was not aware eh :-D
Title: Re: Brass, Copper, or Steel?
Post by: jpmb on April 02, 2007, 09:55:02 AM: hey man..yes the new export lines now comes with a poplar wood snare...the model during the 90's comes with steel snare.. :wink: