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Title: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: keithX on May 05, 2013, 10:05:44 PM
Napadaan kasi ako sa JB Audio Solutions kanina at nakita ko yung mga Music Man nila, around 210k ang isa.  :?
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: gunlak on May 05, 2013, 10:20:06 PM
american labor and quality.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: siopao69 on May 05, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
Plus marketing hype
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: blueberry on May 05, 2013, 10:24:34 PM
Napadaan kasi ako sa JB Audio Solutions kanina at nakita ko yung mga Music Man nila, around 210k ang isa.  :?

actually hindi naman ganyan kataas ang price ng EB/MM guitars. mataas lang ang markup :)
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: constipation on May 05, 2013, 10:25:40 PM
plus yung mga artist model matinde and the artist itself, STEVE LUKATHER( TOTO) etc.. :-D
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: IncX on May 05, 2013, 10:37:47 PM
made in the USA ... pero dito sa pinas, ang taas ng markup, parang boutique price range na sya
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: free2rock on May 05, 2013, 11:03:46 PM
Hindi siya mahal. Poor lang talaga tayo. :oops: :lol:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: emg on May 05, 2013, 11:33:46 PM
Sobrang taas ang mark up... Kahit sale mataas pa rin... Dito nga sa tom lee 133,000 yun STEVE LUKATHER BFR...
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: constipation on May 05, 2013, 11:52:28 PM
Hindi siya mahal. Poor lang talaga tayo. :oops: :lol:

brad, muntik akong mabilaukan sa post mo heheheheh :-D :-D

nakakalungkot lang na katotohanan talaga sa pinas, TRUE INDEED. :-(
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: keithX on May 06, 2013, 12:05:41 AM
Hindi siya mahal. Poor lang talaga tayo. :oops: :lol:

ETO TALAGA E.  :lol:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: jesper2g on May 06, 2013, 12:16:58 AM
Hindi siya mahal. Poor lang talaga tayo. :oops: :lol:

Tapos ang usapan!
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: IncX on May 06, 2013, 12:36:34 AM
only a rich noob would spend $5K or 210K php on a musicman guitar considering the wealth of options available.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: rowley75 on May 06, 2013, 12:54:52 AM
only a rich noob would spend $5K or 210K php on a musicman guitar considering the wealth of options available.

Korak.. Punta ka nalang hk. Tapos bili ka dun. Nakabakasyon ka na, may gitara ka pa.. :lol: kaysa magbayad ng 100k+ worth of patong.. :eek:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: dudeofdude on May 06, 2013, 12:57:38 AM
kaya di ko maintindihan ang mga bumibili ng mamahaling gamit sa JB Music eh (PRS, Music Man, Mesa, etc. ). not trying to bash them or anything, parang 1000000000% kasi yung markup.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: analog.matt on May 06, 2013, 12:58:57 AM
only a rich noob would spend $5K or 210K php on a musicman guitar considering the wealth of options available.

Korak.. Punta ka nalang hk. Tapos bili ka dun. Nakabakasyon ka na, may gitara ka pa.. :lol: kaysa magbayad ng 100k+ worth of patong.. :eek:

may sukli ka pa!  :-D
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: blueberry on May 06, 2013, 01:05:48 AM
kaya di ko maintindihan ang mga bumibili ng mamahaling gamit sa JB Music eh (PRS, Music Man, Mesa, etc. ). not trying to bash them or anything, parang 1000000000% kasi yung markup.

korek! nagtanong ako ng EBMM Axis nasa 150K plus. samantalang ang price sa mga music store outside Philippines eh nasa Less than 100k
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: MYN11 on May 06, 2013, 01:11:23 AM
Bumili ako sa JB ng Mesa at MusicMan. Fair naman yung discount. Mas mura ng konti sa HK. Pero kung ikokonsider yung tax na sadyang mataas dito sa Pinas, fair na yung bigay sa akin. Nakakagulat lang naman kasi tag price nila. Pero pag nakausap naman ng maayos, ok naman.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: Poundcake on May 06, 2013, 02:06:27 AM
The thread title is incomplete. Dapat may "sa JB Music" sa dulo. Haha.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: dudeofdude on May 06, 2013, 02:22:23 AM
Bumili ako sa JB ng Mesa at MusicMan. Fair naman yung discount. Mas mura ng konti sa HK. Pero kung ikokonsider yung tax na sadyang mataas dito sa Pinas, fair na yung bigay sa akin. Nakakagulat lang naman kasi tag price nila. Pero pag nakausap naman ng maayos, ok naman.
good to know na makakausap pa sila.  :) naalala ko sa mesa boogie thread ata yun, when JB started selling mesas nagulat lahat sa prices tapos may nag-compute compute pa na kahit may tax, shipping and other fees mataas parin ang markup nila. either way, i can't afford mesa's, high end music men and PRS'  :lol: :cry:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: Tieria on May 06, 2013, 02:44:00 AM
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good to know na makakausap pa sila.

Case to case basis in my opinion, I perused a Mark V from them a year ago and the best they could give me was slashing a couple few hundred dollars off. At the very least if you buy it from them you get a warranty and its rated at 220V already.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: siopao69 on May 06, 2013, 01:36:49 PM
Anyone who can afford that guitar can afford to travel like hk and buy from shops there.
JB: never fails to amaze.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: gandydancer123 on May 06, 2013, 03:01:38 PM
only a rich noob would spend $5K or 210K php on a musicman guitar considering the wealth of options available.

Korak.. Punta ka nalang hk. Tapos bili ka dun. Nakabakasyon ka na, may gitara ka pa.. :lol: kaysa magbayad ng 100k+ worth of patong.. :eek:

^MISMO!

Learned about JB prices din dahil sa PM...well I think, its about shipping taxes, and other expenses sa pag dala ng JB dito..anyway nowadays sobrang dami ng options...kaya ok lang...

sabi nga nila..tuwing bagsak presyo sale ka lang mamili ng stuff sa JB kasi yun yung "actual fair price" ng item..

pero super mahal nga talaga sila lalo pedals...mga MXR..etc..kaya avoided them since I learned hwo they priced their wares....kahit nung 90's nakarami kami ng bili sa kanila..haha
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: stgmd on May 06, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
Bumili ako sa JB ng Mesa at MusicMan. Fair naman yung discount. Mas mura ng konti sa HK. Pero kung ikokonsider yung tax na sadyang mataas dito sa Pinas, fair na yung bigay sa akin. Nakakagulat lang naman kasi tag price nila. Pero pag nakausap naman ng maayos, ok naman.

Same experience. Humingi ako ng gusto kong discount at binigay naman nila. Mahal lang konti sa internet price.

Ok na din considering wala pang shipping price un nasa internet.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: harusameku on May 06, 2013, 04:11:08 PM
Hindi siya mahal. Poor lang talaga tayo. :oops: :lol:

magandang kasagutan  8-)
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: keithX on May 06, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
The thread title is incomplete. Dapat may "sa JB Music" sa dulo. Haha.

Nahiya lang ako sir. :lol:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: keithX on May 06, 2013, 09:05:34 PM
Dapat ata "bakit sobrang mahal ng equipment sa JB Music?" ang pangalan ng thread na to.  :lol:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: free2rock on May 06, 2013, 09:24:19 PM
Dapat ata "bakit sobrang mahal ng equipment sa JB Music?" ang pangalan ng thread na to.  :lol:

May thread na ata yun. Hehe
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: MYN11 on May 06, 2013, 09:49:15 PM
Bumili ako sa JB ng Mesa at MusicMan. Fair naman yung discount. Mas mura ng konti sa HK. Pero kung ikokonsider yung tax na sadyang mataas dito sa Pinas, fair na yung bigay sa akin. Nakakagulat lang naman kasi tag price nila. Pero pag nakausap naman ng maayos, ok naman.

Same experience. Humingi ako ng gusto kong discount at binigay naman nila. Mahal lang konti sa internet price.

Ok na din considering wala pang shipping price un nasa internet.
 

Tama. Mas mahal lang ng konti sa internet price. Ako yung taong hindi makapaghintay. Kaya satisfied na ako sa deal.

Don't get me wrong ha. I'm not from JB. Alam kong taga yung ibang items nila at wala nang discount. Yung isang EBMM ko inorder ko sa labas. Pero medyo mataas din yung tax pagdating dito. Pero mas mura pa din kesa sa JB.

With the case of Mesa, panalo talaga ang deal with JB. 220v with warranty. Pag kumuha ka sa labas 110v lang makukuha mo tapos walang warranty.

Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: VikingMetal on May 07, 2013, 12:43:38 AM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: dirtybluesplayer on May 07, 2013, 01:02:41 AM
Does anyone here notice that JB Music's Dunlop DC Brick is too Overpriced? 10k php? I got my dc brick @musiciansfriend for almost 5k php brand new. The thread title should entitled 'The JB Music' thread, para open sa lahat hehe
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: dudeofdude on May 07, 2013, 01:06:12 AM
Does anyone here notice that JB Music's Dunlop DC Brick is too Overpriced? 10k php? I got my dc brick @musiciansfriend for almost 5k php brand new. The thread title should entitled 'The JB Music' thread, para open sa lahat hehe
flashback delay nga nila eh 14,600php :lol: samantalang ako... 6k lang benta ko... :lol: :lol: :lol:  >:D
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: keithX on May 07, 2013, 01:10:21 AM
Kahit yung EHX Metal Muff nila mas mahal ata ng 1.5k kesa sa Lazer. Considering na pareho naman silang brand new. :))
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: thunder_shadow(raikage) on May 07, 2013, 01:36:51 AM
i like the hong kong option lalo na para saming mga seaman.. laki talaga ng difference sa Tom Lee kaysa Jay Bee..
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: treblinkalovescene on May 07, 2013, 02:03:10 AM
i like the hong kong option lalo na para saming mga seaman.. laki talaga ng difference sa Tom Lee kaysa Jay Bee..

(http://definitelyfilipino.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/jollibee.jpg)
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: rowley75 on May 07, 2013, 02:47:18 AM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.

Bakit audiophile? Mas mura pa sa msrp ng ibanez prices nila.. :lol:
Bili malang sa hk tapos tadtarin ng sticker yung hardcase para magmukhang used hahaha!
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: blueberry on May 07, 2013, 04:54:39 AM
i like the hong kong option lalo na para saming mga seaman.. laki talaga ng difference sa Tom Lee kaysa Jay Bee..

uy pareho tayong seaman. Malaki talaga ang difference ng mga prices sa TomLee tsaka sa JB. Meron pang ayos na music store na pwede mong puntahan,, yung sa Singapore. nalimutan ko lang name!!
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: firemodel55 on May 07, 2013, 07:57:12 AM
Napadaan kasi ako sa JB Audio Solutions kanina at nakita ko yung mga Music Man nila, around 210k ang isa.  :?

Conversely, I could say bakit cheap ang budget mo... Heh heh.  But seriously maganda workmanship ng Music Man if I could find one that has hiyaw.  Still searching though.  I would still say 95% of Musicman Guitars just don't meet my requirement in terms of hiyaw.  Just tested a JP6 sa JB Megamall.  Ang ganda pero patay ang tunog.

With regards to pricing, we all know the FCKED UP pricing policy of JB Music.  But to truly benchmark the correct street price in the U.S., always check the themusiczoo.com.  They have an extensive selection and are priced fairly AND most importantly, they will honestly tell you if a specific guitar is NOT responsive if you ask.  But the most important thing I like about the music zoo is wala silang staff na Pinoy na bolero.

Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: randymarsh on May 07, 2013, 08:40:50 AM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.

and also the peso to dollar conversion when they import items. most people do not know that you will have to pay more to buy US currency

1 USD -> 41 PHP
43 PHP -> 1 USD
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: firemodel55 on May 07, 2013, 08:55:18 AM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.

Let me correct you there, duty on electric guitars is 10% (AHTN Code 9202.90.00).  VAT is 12%.  Whatever is charged to the importer in terms of VAT is deductible from their OUTPUT VAT.  So it is NOT 35%.    Other standard duties are documentary stamps and processing which is less than 1%. Please PHILMUSIC check your facts before you post.  Ito nga ang ayaw ko sa Pinoy, hindi thorough bago magsalita.
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: j-sonic on May 07, 2013, 09:02:55 AM
Scandinavian yata ser,di pinoy. Viking daw eh :lol:
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: gandydancer123 on May 07, 2013, 09:50:30 AM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.

Let me correct you there, duty on electric guitars is 10% (AHTN Code 9202.90.00).  VAT is 12%.  Whatever is charged to the importer in terms of VAT is deductible from their OUTPUT VAT.  So it is NOT 35%.    Other standard duties are documentary stamps and processing which is less than 1%. Please PHILMUSIC check your facts before you post.  Ito nga ang ayaw ko sa Pinoy, hindi thorough bago magsalita.

nice share!
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: keithX on May 07, 2013, 09:05:31 PM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.

Let me correct you there, duty on electric guitars is 10% (AHTN Code 9202.90.00).  VAT is 12%.  Whatever is charged to the importer in terms of VAT is deductible from their OUTPUT VAT.  So it is NOT 35%.    Other standard duties are documentary stamps and processing which is less than 1%. Please PHILMUSIC check your facts before you post.  Ito nga ang ayaw ko sa Pinoy, hindi thorough bago magsalita.

reminds me of my Business Taxation lessons back in college.  :lol: Good share!  :)
Title: Re: Curious lang ako...bakit sobrang mahal ng Music Man guitars?
Post by: free2rock on May 07, 2013, 09:14:05 PM
When talking about local prices on music instruments, most people seems to forget that the Philippines has a 35% customs duty on imports of everything music instruments. If you add other standard duties and taxes you get to about 60% on top of the import price.

Let me correct you there, duty on electric guitars is 10% (AHTN Code 9202.90.00).  VAT is 12%.  Whatever is charged to the importer in terms of VAT is deductible from their OUTPUT VAT.  So it is NOT 35%.    Other standard duties are documentary stamps and processing which is less than 1%. Please PHILMUSIC check your facts before you post.  Ito nga ang ayaw ko sa Pinoy, hindi thorough bago magsalita.

Hindi lang naman pinoy ang ganyan...