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Title: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: pelipeplips on April 30, 2007, 08:21:23 PM
Mga sirs! I'm planning to buy a wah pedal, patulong naman po mag decide between the ff wah pedals. :?

Ibanez Weeping Demon Wah
Dunlop Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/Dimebag)
Morley (Power Wah/Bad Horsie 2)
Hell Babe (modded)
Vox V847

Or do you have any suggestions of a wah pedal wherein you could control the wah tone,  also a durable and reasonable priced pedal.

Right now, Weeping Demon is on the top of my list, because of the versatility, manual/automatic on/off switching, and 'true bypass' (daw)... kaso I read reviews saying that it has a weak "wah" sound and could not get a vintage sounding wah..

Comments/suggestions po mga masters! Thanks! :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: changedmynametojimi on April 30, 2007, 08:34:55 PM
ewan ko pero ako id go for the crybaby pa rin...ehehehe sama mo na ang VOX!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: rainierito on April 30, 2007, 08:38:15 PM
yung behringer ako
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: guiatrist214 on April 30, 2007, 08:46:12 PM
uhm kung ako sayo mag dunlop crybaby wah ka..may "aww" effect kasi..kung shredder ka..get the bad horsie 2 or ung ibanez..hhaha :-D :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: trem3 on April 30, 2007, 09:53:57 PM
go for Bad Horsie or Bad Horsie 2 OR Mark Tremonti Wah, nice blend with distortion!

plus Morleys are switchless and potless (electro-optical design)... very convinient IMO
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: pelipeplips on April 30, 2007, 10:15:46 PM
Im more of a blues/rock guitarist and not much of a shredder.hehe  Oo nga cguro eh noh, iba pa din talaga ang  wah sound ng crybaby.hehe  Pero does Crybaby 535Q suck tone?
Is it possible din kaya to get a crybaby 'wah' sound gamit ang weeping demon (i-adjust ang Q controls etc..)?  May naka try na po ba ng weeping demon wah?  Mas mura din kc etong wah na to compared sa crybaby na 535q...kaya within budget pa. :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: edgarthewalrus on April 30, 2007, 11:51:03 PM
uy ako rin in the hunt of wahwah.. pero puro crybaby ang target ko..

@pelipeplips
add mo naman sa choices yung slash wah, zakk wah, at dime wah
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: Shekoski on April 30, 2007, 11:54:04 PM
I'd go Morley, Dime Wah or Weeping Demon. Hindi masyado ok crybaby for me, IMO. Lakas sa tone-suckage and medyo maliit yung sweep. :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: radiostationexp on May 01, 2007, 08:11:10 AM
Dito ako! Mura na plus easily moddable......

http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,43524.0.html (http://talk.philmusic.com/board/index.php/topic,43524.0.html)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: blue_raven on May 01, 2007, 09:42:08 AM
Im more of a blues/rock guitarist and not much of a shredder.hehe  Oo nga cguro eh noh, iba pa din talaga ang  wah sound ng crybaby.

i suggest you get a vox wah. they're good for blues rock.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: Rock_Fusion on May 02, 2007, 01:26:55 AM
speaking of work out, i used to have a dunlop 95q,
ang kapal ng spring, it made my leg muscles huge..parang nag gym.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: bloodshedd on May 02, 2007, 02:34:47 AM
I used to have (..technically its still mine but I have not asked for the borrower to return it for the last 5 years) and old Crybaby... It has gotten quite noisy that I just lost interest.. Good thing that JB (where I work!) have already acquired distributorship of MORLEY products...

My fave right now is the POWER WAH... with the Bad Horsie 1 running a close second...

you should try out these stuff!! ...No potentiometers means no parts to wear out and will eventually be noisy... NO MORE WAH-PHOBIA for me...
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs. Crybaby 535Q vs. Bad Horsie vs. Boss V-Wah
Post by: meashuggahr on May 02, 2007, 07:41:31 AM
weeping demon user here.
my first wah:)

tagal ko kinapa mga settings neto :?

nung una parang,.. wah? ok na ito.

eventually napansin ko

may mga ginagawang tunog ito may masyadong sharp na sound sa low at high's.
tapos yun nagsimula na ako mairita.
then tweak at experiment...

eureka!

sa proper settings this pedal will do:)

pero gusto ko paring magka 535q para sa start ng chain isa at end ng overdrive/distortion isa:)

yun ay kung may makikitang mura na 535q, hehe
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pings15 on May 02, 2007, 06:42:57 PM
weeping demon user din...

ok din xa...

na papalit mo kung manual mo gagamitin (i-oon mo pa)
or un automatic ( may spring)

may fine tuning knobs din..

tone lock para hindi maaksidente mawala sa settings mo..

overall ok sya.. layo din ng range
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on May 02, 2007, 09:50:42 PM
Added slash, zakk and dime, vox and hellbabe to the list. :-D

I see so mas ok pala if pot-less.  :-D 

@pings15 and meashuggahr
How long have you been using WD-7? Durable po ba? Maski madaganan sya hindi luluwag/loose tread ang pedal? (Yung expression pedal ng rp300 ko kc, nadaganan lang ng ilang gadgets, katagalan na loose tread na.)

Yung dimebag wah mukang ok din ah kc you can also tweak your wah sound daw... kaso mas mahal sya sa 535q. :cry:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: gjuanengo on May 02, 2007, 10:02:11 PM
Wylde Wah All The Way!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: mariachi on May 02, 2007, 10:12:30 PM
535Q! hassle kung artist pedals kunin mo lalo na kung hindi naman talaga ganon tugtugan mo. Had one before, sold it then bought one again. Just love the versatility of this wah!!!! :mrgreen:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Jayson77 on May 02, 2007, 10:30:12 PM
Crybaby over bad horsie
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: reed on May 03, 2007, 07:08:58 AM
535q!  :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on May 03, 2007, 09:27:47 AM
535Q! hassle kung artist pedals kunin mo lalo na kung hindi naman talaga ganon tugtugan mo. Had one before, sold it then bought one again. Just love the versatility of this wah!!!! :mrgreen:

Sabagay may point din si mariachi, hirap kc pag signature gear ang gagamitin lalo na sa gigs...may "responsibility na kasama" IMHO

Thanks for all the input mga masters! I appreciate it! :-D
Gusto ko 535q (pero d pa kaya ng budget) kaya I think I would go for Weeping demon sa ngayon. Hopefully mabibili ko ito this month!  :evil:


Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: cool_blues on May 03, 2007, 09:46:53 AM
535Q! hassle kung artist pedals kunin mo lalo na kung hindi naman talaga ganon tugtugan mo. Had one before, sold it then bought one again. Just love the versatility of this wah!!!! :mrgreen:

Sabagay may point din si mariachi, hirap kc pag signature gear ang gagamitin lalo na sa gigs...may "responsibility na kasama" IMHO

Thanks for all the input mga masters! I appreciate it! :-D
Gusto ko 535q (pero d pa kaya ng budget) kaya I think I would go for Weeping demon sa ngayon. Hopefully mabibili ko ito this month!  :evil:




535q ka na....konti lang naman ata diperensya sa presyo, bulky masyado ung Weeping Demon e....ako solb ako sa 535q ko, ikaw pa mananawa kaka tweak para mahanap ung tamang tunog na gusto mo sa wah, pero siguradong masasapul mo ung hinahanap mo.hehehe... :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pings15 on May 03, 2007, 02:23:32 PM
Added slash, zakk and dime, vox and hellbabe to the list. :-D

I see so mas ok pala if pot-less.  :-D 

@pings15 and meashuggahr
How long have you been using WD-7? Durable po ba? Maski madaganan sya hindi luluwag/loose tread ang pedal? (Yung expression pedal ng rp300 ko kc, nadaganan lang ng ilang gadgets, katagalan na loose tread na.)

Yung dimebag wah mukang ok din ah kc you can also tweak your wah sound daw... kaso mas mahal sya sa 535q. :cry:


WD-7 is very durable.. its made of some kind of metal.. bigat nga rin nun eh...

1st time ko nabili nalaglag ko agad...  no damage done.. not even a scratch..

matibay sya...

Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: chris005 on May 03, 2007, 07:57:45 PM
MBH2
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: ginblue on May 03, 2007, 09:06:15 PM
535Q! hassle kung artist pedals kunin mo lalo na kung hindi naman talaga ganon tugtugan mo. Had one before, sold it then bought one again. Just love the versatility of this wah!!!! :mrgreen:

Sabagay may point din si mariachi, hirap kc pag signature gear ang gagamitin lalo na sa gigs...may "responsibility na kasama" IMHO

Thanks for all the input mga masters! I appreciate it! :-D
Gusto ko 535q (pero d pa kaya ng budget) kaya I think I would go for Weeping demon sa ngayon. Hopefully mabibili ko ito this month!  :evil:




535q ka na....konti lang naman ata diperensya sa presyo, bulky masyado ung Weeping Demon e....ako solb ako sa 535q ko, ikaw pa mananawa kaka tweak para mahanap ung tamang tunog na gusto mo sa wah, pero siguradong masasapul mo ung hinahanap mo.hehehe... :-D


535 is the best dude!!!
Kung napansin mo yung mga feedback effect ni Satriani lalo na sa Flying in a blue dream.
Magagawa mo lang yun sa 535q ewan ko sa iba hehehhehe.




Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Jayson77 on May 04, 2007, 09:14:45 AM
I love my Crybaby Fuzzwah even Im not using the distortion part of my wah, I also never tried other wah. But I already heard a Morley bad horsie. Bitin ata sa pag buka ang sound nya. And the cry baby has a sweet spot. yung pwede mong iwanan ng halfway na nakatanggal ang paa sa pedal, Slayer do this most of the time sa ad-lib nila. :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on May 04, 2007, 11:15:57 AM
May nakita po kc ako sa RJ na "Crybaby Classic"..yung mga fasel ata yun 11k na, pano pa kaya kung Crybaby 535q with its tweakable knobs... so I'm thinking syempre mas mahal pa. And so far yung mga shops na natanungan ko walang stock ng 535q.
Yung Demon naman meron sa Audiophile tapos 7k plus lang yung price (based sa website nla).. eh  kating-kati na ang paa ko mag waaahh! :evil:

Based sa mga nabasa kong reviews kc, yung demon pwede daw maging auto switch(ala badhorsie) or manual switching (ala crybaby--pwedeng din maiwan halfway naka buka ang pedal) just by flipping the lever sa side.

@phoenix_rising
Curious lang po, yung bad hoursie po ba pwedeng maiwan halfway ang pedal?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: edgarthewalrus on May 04, 2007, 11:49:41 AM
Sad to say the bad horsie only goes up and down dahil sa spring. ang crybaby alam ko...may wah rin sila na walang pot, parang bad horsie rin, pero normal rocking motion and pwede maiwan halfway.

hmm.. how about if you still step on it halfway, will you still get that sound? parang nagagas ata ako dito ah haha.. pero i have to try 535q, 95, dime, zakk, morley classic and this bad horsie haaayyyyy  :lol:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Phil on May 04, 2007, 11:56:23 AM
I use a BH-2 and it rocks.

535qs are super nasal...... for me sobra ang pagka wah. ...di mo na marinig ang mga nota.

listen to my BH-2

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/songInfo.cfm?bandID=462734&songID=4048488
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on May 04, 2007, 12:27:40 PM
Quote
Sad to say the bad horsie only goes up and down dahil sa spring. ang crybaby alam ko...may wah rin sila na walang pot, parang bad horsie rin, pero normal rocking motion and pwede maiwan halfway.
meron palang crybaby na potless? wow! ma research nga! :-o

got this from google.hehe mas bulky nga ang weeping demon compared sa crybaby!  :-(
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/pelipeplips/demon-crybaby1.jpg)(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/pelipeplips/demon-crybaby2.jpg)




Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: blue_raven on May 04, 2007, 07:41:25 PM
535qs are super nasal...... for me sobra ang pagka wah. ...di mo na marinig ang mga nota.

i agree on this one. well, the 535q is great for modern sounds, but when you start playing hendrix and jimmy page...

i prefer my dunlop gcb-95 than my dunlop 535q...
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: shadowm00n on May 05, 2007, 09:03:46 AM
Hirap ah.. gaganda ng mga choices :-D.. well, to be honest w u, i guess ikaw lang ang makakapag sabi kung ano ang maganda sa tenga mo. we can give you a bit of ideas. pero matanong ko muna, ano ba ang mostly na tinutugtog mo at ano ang set up?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: nuno on May 05, 2007, 10:26:10 AM
i had a BH-2 before and it rocks coz:

1. It works great with dirt pedals.

2. I like the boost para sa mga accent notes.

3. Built like a tank.

4. Pot-less so no scratchy sound.

5. Auto by-pass, pakawalan mo lng and by-pass na. unlike dunlop/vox wah na kelangan mo pa apakan yung switch at minsan may poping sound pa.

6. you can almost get the sound of an envelope filter sa dali mag toe down.  :evil:

although i love this pedal meron din naman down side ito:

1.wala siyang mid sweep which is what im really looking for in a wah.

2. the contour knob doesnt make any significant contribution coz i can barely notice the changes in the sweep. (or maybe its just my untrained ears).

3. The casing itself is built like a tank, but once the pivotal point of the wah gets f***ed up... damay narin yung LDR (sensors). hindi naman sa masisira yung LDR but the alignment of the "flippers" (which serves as a gate of signals between 2 perfectly aligned LDR's). and pag nangyari yun mag bby-pass kagad yung BH kahit nakatoe down ka.

4. if yung LDR mo yung nasira. you have to get the parts shipped from us para lng maayos yan as compared to the convenience of getting a regular pot.

I hope my review can help you in some way or another... goodluck! :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Jayson77 on May 05, 2007, 06:10:47 PM
Bili na lang ng crybaby and Bad horsie para di masakit sa ulo. :-D(joke joke joke)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: knightburn on May 05, 2007, 07:09:26 PM
Ibanez WH10 for me. Very nice vocal wah... versatile and even have the toggle for Bass Guitar that can do really LOW wah sounds.

Other reviews:

http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Ibanez/WH10+Wah/10/2
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: BAMF on May 05, 2007, 07:51:13 PM


4. if yung LDR mo yung nasira. you have to get the parts shipped from us para lng maayos yan as compared to the convenience of getting a regular pot.

I hope my review can help you in some way or another... goodluck! :-)

Pa-chime in lang. Agree with all your other points except this one. The LDR is generic and can be bought at Deeco. Cheap. On the other hand, the long life pots of pot-based wahs, if you don't find them at audiophile, have to be shipped in from the US. And they're expensive, at about $20 a pop, plus shipping, duties and taxes :D . And those pots, even if they are long-lifed supposedly, will only serve you give or take, five years, tops, before you'll need to replace them again. Baka nga 2 years pa lang scratchy na naman yun.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: mariachi on May 05, 2007, 08:28:07 PM
May nakita po kc ako sa RJ na "Crybaby Classic"..yung mga fasel ata yun 11k na, pano pa kaya kung Crybaby 535q with its tweakable knobs... so I'm thinking syempre mas mahal pa. And so far yung mga shops na natanungan ko walang stock ng 535q.


11k na yung crybaby sa RJ?!?!!? last time i bought my 1st gen 535q, around 5k petot lang pero mid-90s pa  :-D yung crybaby 535q d2 sa singapore 9k, orig crybaby gcb95 around 5k lang...
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Jayson77 on May 06, 2007, 12:25:28 AM
I bought my Jim Dunlop FuzzWah for P4,800 nung 1994. :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on May 06, 2007, 01:29:34 AM
Salamat ng marami sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng kanilang comments, suggestions and reviews! :-D

@ shadowm00n
blues/rock po ang tugutan ko. Pero i'd like to do some experimentation.hehe Kaya gusto ko sana  a versatile wah (pwedeng pang blues,hardrock)
Yung sa setup ko naman, I'm still in the process of completing it pa  :evil:
(those with brackets are to be bought pa)... habang naghihintay, RP300 lang muna ginagamit ko.hehe
Guitar-->[Volume pedal]-->[WaWah]-->[EQ]-->[TS-9]-->Boss MD-2-->Boss TR-2-->Boss PH-3-->[Smart gate]-->[DigiDelay]-->[Verbzilla]

@nuno
Thanks po sir Nuno very helpful po yung review ninyo.  Actually yung pivotal point dn nung morley mejo kinakabahan din ako...iniisip ko din kc mukang madaling ma loose tread ata yung part na yun. Na experience nyo na po ba ito?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: nuno on May 06, 2007, 11:03:09 AM


4. if yung LDR mo yung nasira. you have to get the parts shipped from us para lng maayos yan as compared to the convenience of getting a regular pot.

I hope my review can help you in some way or another... goodluck! :-)

Pa-chime in lang. Agree with all your other points except this one. The LDR is generic and can be bought at Deeco. Cheap. On the other hand, the long life pots of pot-based wahs, if you don't find them at audiophile, have to be shipped in from the US. And they're expensive, at about $20 a pop, plus shipping, duties and taxes :D . And those pots, even if they are long-lifed supposedly, will only serve you give or take, five years, tops, before you'll need to replace them again. Baka nga 2 years pa lang scratchy na naman yun.

ganun ba sir jobet?  :-D

if i remember correctly, kasi meron din forumer na ganun yung problem and pina-ayos niya yung BH-2 niya sa isang nag momod ng pedals at di daw maayos kasi yung parts (LDR) daw eh wala dito sa pinas at ipapaship pa daw from the us at mahal daw. so mga 3 weeks daw naka upo yung BH-2 nya dun sa nag mmod... (so mukhang na memera lng yung nag aayos :?) so dun ko nakuha yun idea na yun. luckily nung na ayos nyo yung BH-2 ko sinabi ko rin sa kanya so nagkaron siya ng idea pano remediohan.  :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: nuno on May 06, 2007, 11:12:06 AM
Salamat ng marami sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng kanilang comments, suggestions and reviews! :-D

@ shadowm00n
blues/rock po ang tugutan ko. Pero i'd like to do some experimentation.hehe Kaya gusto ko sana  a versatile wah (pwedeng pang blues,hardrock)
Yung sa setup ko naman, I'm still in the process of completing it pa  :evil:
(those with brackets are to be bought pa)... habang naghihintay, RP300 lang muna ginagamit ko.hehe
Guitar-->[Volume pedal]-->[WaWah]-->[EQ]-->[TS-9]-->Boss MD-2-->Boss TR-2-->Boss PH-3-->[Smart gate]-->[DigiDelay]-->[Verbzilla]

@nuno
Thanks po sir Nuno very helpful po yung review ninyo.  Actually yung pivotal point dn nung morley mejo kinakabahan din ako...iniisip ko din kc mukang madaling ma loose tread ata yung part na yun. Na experience nyo na po ba ito?

hindi na loose tread yung bhorsie ko, mga 5 or 6 years abused na siya sa akin and it works perfectly, no scratchiness.  :lol:

that means maingat ka sa gamit mo mico at ako barubal hehehe!  :lol:

@pelipeplips
yah ganun yung naging problem ko. ganito analogy ko jan. lets say may tama yung tuhod mo so tendency is habang nag lalakad ka may lumalagutok.

ganun yung nangyaari sa bh-2 ko everytime i rock the wah. parang may nagshi-shift na hindi ko maintindihan tapos biglang nag bby-pass. but then i want to stress... yun yung naging experience ko sa BH-2... but for most of the forumers here who uses badhorsie wala silang issues na ganun. nasa gumagamit n lng siguro yun kung tatagal yung BH-2 or not. but over all ill give it a 9/10  :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: nuno on May 07, 2007, 06:57:07 AM
Salamat ng marami sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng kanilang comments, suggestions and reviews! :-D

@ shadowm00n
blues/rock po ang tugutan ko. Pero i'd like to do some experimentation.hehe Kaya gusto ko sana  a versatile wah (pwedeng pang blues,hardrock)
Yung sa setup ko naman, I'm still in the process of completing it pa  :evil:
(those with brackets are to be bought pa)... habang naghihintay, RP300 lang muna ginagamit ko.hehe
Guitar-->[Volume pedal]-->[WaWah]-->[EQ]-->[TS-9]-->Boss MD-2-->Boss TR-2-->Boss PH-3-->[Smart gate]-->[DigiDelay]-->[Verbzilla]

@nuno
Thanks po sir Nuno very helpful po yung review ninyo.  Actually yung pivotal point dn nung morley mejo kinakabahan din ako...iniisip ko din kc mukang madaling ma loose tread ata yung part na yun. Na experience nyo na po ba ito?

hindi na loose tread yung bhorsie ko, mga 5 or 6 years abused na siya sa akin and it works perfectly, no scratchiness.  :lol:

that means maingat ka sa gamit mo mico at ako barubal hehehe!  :lol:

)

Chonggo sira!!!! i didn't mean it that way. :-D :-D :-D barubal din ako sa gamit, matibay lang yung bad horsie, baka dennis...you got big feet??? :lol: :lol: :lol: joke joke joke.

yah i got a big pair! so that means malaki rin yung  TU TOOOT ko hehehe!  :lol:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: lovecore on May 10, 2007, 03:31:10 PM
wow this thread is very helpful!!!

used to own a dunlop hendrix fuzz wah, which i tried out side by side with a vox and the vox won hands down.

I play blues/classic rock rin pala btw, bro.

i found that it the vox has more um, "wah" into it. mas maganda ung Q nya. it's hard to explain since I'm not too much of a guitar player with the terms hehehe

I tried a weeping demon yesterday at a show and it's awesome. I even told myself I'd like to get one of those. I especially love the auto on function.

Though I have yet to hear bout the potless dunlops and i think they also have a model which has auto on.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: shadowm00n on May 11, 2007, 12:58:54 PM
Salamat ng marami sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng kanilang comments, suggestions and reviews! :-D

@ shadowm00n
blues/rock po ang tugutan ko. Pero i'd like to do some experimentation.hehe Kaya gusto ko sana  a versatile wah (pwedeng pang blues,hardrock)
Yung sa setup ko naman, I'm still in the process of completing it pa  :evil:
(those with brackets are to be bought pa)... habang naghihintay, RP300 lang muna ginagamit ko.hehe
Guitar-->[Volume pedal]-->[WaWah]-->[EQ]-->[TS-9]-->Boss MD-2-->Boss TR-2-->Boss PH-3-->[Smart gate]-->[DigiDelay]-->[Verbzilla]

@nuno
Thanks po sir Nuno very helpful po yung review ninyo.  Actually yung pivotal point dn nung morley mejo kinakabahan din ako...iniisip ko din kc mukang madaling ma loose tread ata yung part na yun. Na experience nyo na po ba ito?

sorry for the late reply.. hhmmm.. pwede kang mag 535q. medyo versatile yan. but dont take my word that much! remember, ikaw pa din ang makakapag sabi kung ano maganda sa tenga mo. 535q naman kc, marami kang magagawa so kung gus2 mo nga mag experiment, eh you wont be stucked on one sound. ayt? goodluck!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: edgarthewalrus on May 13, 2007, 11:34:36 PM
dapat pala isama na rin rito ang budwah.. ok ang mga soundclips ng budwah saka dime para sa akin.. konti lang ang price difference.. ano kaya ang ok? :evil: :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: edgarthewalrus on May 14, 2007, 01:32:12 PM
yung morley wahs "true tone" bypass then yung budwah hardwire bypass. what does this mean? crybaby wahs don't say anything about bypass.

mas ok ba yung hardwire kesa dun sa true tone? haaayyyyyy GAS nga naman
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: ayofish on May 14, 2007, 01:44:18 PM
just bought a behringer hellbabe. angas nito . been trying to do sir BAMF's mod on it angas ehehhehe i liked it better than the 535q  . ala lng there was something about the un clear sound of the 535q that i didn't like. plus kailangan mo pa i click para umandar ang 535q eh so un . hellababe all the way!!!!!!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: radiostationexp on May 14, 2007, 01:48:05 PM
just bought a behringer hellbabe. angas nito . been trying to do sir BAMF's mod on it angas ehehhehe i liked it better than the 535q  . ala lng there was something about the un clear sound of the 535q that i didn't like. plus kailangan mo pa i click para umandar ang 535q eh so un . hellababe all the way!!!!!!

Congrats! Did you buy a new one or did you get one second-hand?  :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: CARABAO on May 14, 2007, 01:51:52 PM
vox wah pa din ako. panalo ang sweep, malagkit, at pasok kahit sa distortion. i compared a vox v847 and a crybaby gcb 95, mas nagccut thru yung wah effect ng vox kesa sa crybaby. haven't tried a BH and a WD7 though. mukhang ok din siguro yung mga yun. gusto ko yung auto on/off feature.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: ayofish on May 14, 2007, 03:45:03 PM
just bought a behringer hellbabe. angas nito . been trying to do sir BAMF's mod on it angas ehehhehe i liked it better than the 535q  . ala lng there was something about the un clear sound of the 535q that i didn't like. plus kailangan mo pa i click para umandar ang 535q eh so un . hellababe all the way!!!!!!

Congrats! Did you buy a new one or did you get one second-hand?  :-D
new one kasi ayoko ng second hand na behringer na ganito kasi kakatakot hehehhehe
pag ibang pedals nila ok lng pero ito kasi palagi inaapakan
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: weeping_demon on May 14, 2007, 11:39:48 PM
wait, guys, has anyone tried the boss v-wah? ano comments nyo on that one as opposed to the choices you guys gave? :-D mukhang magandang alternative din kasi yun eh hehe

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u195/bsy_85/10795.jpg)

the specs to follow nalang hehe
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: weeping_demon on May 14, 2007, 11:46:30 PM
Boss V-Wah

A Modeling Wah Pedal
With the new V-Wah, BOSS has taken its considerable Digital modeling know-how and recreated some of the most popular wah pedal sounds of all time. These COSM models include "CBY-Wah" (the classic wah sound), "VO-Wah" (the British wah sound), "MO-Wah" (a popular new-school wah sound), and "Uni-V" (a vintage swirling rotary effect). Each of these is a stunning simulation of the original, quickly accessed with the turn of a knob.

Advanced New Features
Digital memories and infrared sensors aren't the first things that come to mind when you think about wah pedals, but that's exactly what sets the V-Wah apart. Thanks to its infrared sensors, this pedal offers smooth, noise-free operation, has no "click" sound when it's turned on. And it never needs to be cleaned or have parts replaced. Once you've tweaked your wah sound to perfection using the "Type," "Wah Range," and "Drive" knobs, simply save it to one of the PW-10's three digital memories for instant recall with the heel pedal switch.

Onboard Overdrive
Since many of the best wah sounds include a healthy dose of overdrive, the V-Wah includes eight different types of built-in overdrive. These include BOSS classics like the OD-1 OverDrive, OD-2 Turbo OverDrive, MT-2 Metal Zone, DS-1 distortion, BD-2 Blues OverDrive, as well as "Muff Fuzz," "Guv Dist" and "Booster" modes. Just dial in the amount you want with the "Drive" knob.

"Talking" Wah Sounds and More
The V-Wah's "Voice" mode can produce a wide variety of "talking" wah sounds. It just sweep the pedal through the different vowel sounds and make this pedal talk! Rounded out with an "Advanced" mode with a huge Filter range, and a "Bass" mode designed for the frequencies of bass guitar, there's never been a wah pedal quite like this.

New "Double Resonance" Mode
The PW-10 doesn't just do wah; it also creates Analog synth-like sounds via a newly developed "Double Resonance" mode. Simply use the pedal to sweep the filter and get fat synth sounds by adding the PW-10's onboard distortion or fuzz. You can also use Modulation Effects like Delay, chorus and Reverb for an even greater variety of cool synth sounds.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: Targa_midbass on May 15, 2007, 12:01:24 AM
vox wah pa din ako. panalo ang sweep, malagkit, at pasok kahit sa distortion. i compared a vox v847 and a crybaby gcb 95, mas nagccut thru yung wah effect ng vox kesa sa crybaby. haven't tried a BH and a WD7 though. mukhang ok din siguro yung mga yun. gusto ko yung auto on/off feature.
greg yung na-A/B mo ba na vox tsaka gcb-95 parehong stock un-modded?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: badongrodrigs on May 15, 2007, 12:06:39 AM
Vox wah rawks! :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: weeping_demon on May 15, 2007, 09:47:25 PM
wait, guys, has anyone tried the boss v-wah? ano comments nyo on that one as opposed to the choices you guys gave? :-D mukhang magandang alternative din kasi yun eh hehe

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u195/bsy_85/10795.jpg)

the specs to follow nalang hehe

Yup, i was able to try that wah pedal last week at guitar center, it sucks big time. all the different settings...bitin yung wah, emulate a vox, crybaby...not even close. don't waste your money on this, get the real thing instead.

Ah i see :-D thanks for the tip! i was seriously thinking of getting one as opposed to a weeping demon.. buti nalang... hehehe :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: nuno on May 22, 2007, 10:27:21 AM
Salamat ng marami sa lahat ng mga nagbigay ng kanilang comments, suggestions and reviews! :-D

@ shadowm00n
blues/rock po ang tugutan ko. Pero i'd like to do some experimentation.hehe Kaya gusto ko sana  a versatile wah (pwedeng pang blues,hardrock)
Yung sa setup ko naman, I'm still in the process of completing it pa  :evil:
(those with brackets are to be bought pa)... habang naghihintay, RP300 lang muna ginagamit ko.hehe
Guitar-->[Volume pedal]-->[WaWah]-->[EQ]-->[TS-9]-->Boss MD-2-->Boss TR-2-->Boss PH-3-->[Smart gate]-->[DigiDelay]-->[Verbzilla]

@nuno
Thanks po sir Nuno very helpful po yung review ninyo.  Actually yung pivotal point dn nung morley mejo kinakabahan din ako...iniisip ko din kc mukang madaling ma loose tread ata yung part na yun. Na experience nyo na po ba ito?

hindi na loose tread yung bhorsie ko, mga 5 or 6 years abused na siya sa akin and it works perfectly, no scratchiness.  :lol:

that means maingat ka sa gamit mo mico at ako barubal hehehe!  :lol:

)

Chonggo sira!!!! i didn't mean it that way. :-D :-D :-D barubal din ako sa gamit, matibay lang yung bad horsie, baka dennis...you got big feet??? :lol: :lol: :lol: joke joke joke.

yah i got a big pair! so that means malaki rin yung  TU TOOOT ko hehehe!  :lol:

hehehe. off topic, ano palit mo sa fulltone mo?

balik sa topic, have you guys tried the fulltone wah, snarlings dog wah (dami models)

I got a jt valveboy but dang! the FD2 and the vboy sounds good when cascaded!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: tejadster on May 22, 2007, 10:32:10 AM
bad horsie  :evil:


very very bad....... :evil:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: haey2 on May 22, 2007, 10:37:06 AM
anybody here tried the dunlop slash wah? sa mga gitarista sa US, baka na try nyo na...reviews naman po...thanks... 8-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: nuno on May 22, 2007, 11:39:40 AM
and also tech21's killer wail!!!  :evil:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: banned on May 29, 2007, 01:42:38 AM
meron n bang slash wah s jb music??

kung wla sn nmn pwd mkhnp?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: edgarthewalrus on May 29, 2007, 02:56:48 AM
meron n bang slash wah s jb music??

kung wla sn nmn pwd mkhnp?
ewan ko lang kung meron pang dunlop wahs sa jb kasi meron na silang morley. pumunta ako ng raon stagepoint, omg, almost complete ang dunlop wahs nila! dimebag, slash, zakk, 535q di ko tinignan yung iba kasi baka matukso ako. di ko na rin tinanong yung price dahil lalo akong matutukso haha

anyways, i got myself a bad horsie but the next day, i went back to the store and exchange it with power wah. mas masaya ako sa power wah hehe
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: banned on May 29, 2007, 06:16:05 PM
gs2 ko tlga ung wah sound nung kay slash kea hinahanap ko ung dunlop slash crybaby

anung wah model b ang pwdng gayahin ang sound n un??khit ndi gayang gaya bsta malapit lng

dun s sound...
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: lovecore on May 29, 2007, 06:53:35 PM
actually you can achieve that with most wah's as long as you can have it modded properly  :wink:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: banned on May 29, 2007, 07:54:52 PM
ah ok..

s mga nkkita n ng slash wah d2 s pinas can you tell me the price pls..
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: gjuanengo on May 29, 2007, 08:43:50 PM
Im surprised you people havent knocked on MGD inc. THEYRE ON SALE!

9500 for the slash
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on May 31, 2007, 08:15:14 AM
Im surprised you people havent knocked on MGD inc. THEYRE ON SALE!

9500 for the slash

ano po yang MGD inc? :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: enceladus19 on May 31, 2007, 08:48:47 AM
uhm.. singit lng.. have anyone here tried the snarling dog wahs?.. reviews naman po.. kc i thought na pwede sha maging alternative kc sa lazer lng nabibili..
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: haey2 on May 31, 2007, 10:24:20 AM
any body got a slash wah??? reviews naman... 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: mawts_gwaps on July 15, 2007, 04:55:24 PM
i've had several crybabies pero id choose the snarling dogs whine-o-wah over them.

sobrang ok ang sound quality tsaka diverse yung tones, i'd recommend it over a 535q anytime

yun nga lang, nasira yung gain knob nung sakin tapos walang kaya mag-ayos dito sa pinas (dun sa mga na-try ko na)

so now i've lost hope and babalik nako sa crybaby..

hassle lang talaga mehn..
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: redballs17 on July 16, 2007, 08:43:22 AM
and also tech21's killer wail!!!  :evil:

Uy ganda nito.... dba la nang ganito? meron b jan nakakaalam kung san pa meron? :-)

Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: trees on July 16, 2007, 08:47:43 AM

bro, puntahan mo yung link na ito. . .
http://www.musicplayer.com/lounge/guides/wah1.htm
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Filippo on August 12, 2007, 06:52:18 PM
any comments sa fulltone clyde wah (standard and deluxe) mga sirs? Ok rin daw ito... sooo confusing hehe  :?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: embot on August 12, 2007, 11:28:40 PM
any comments sa fulltone clyde wah (standard and deluxe) mga sirs? Ok rin daw ito... sooo confusing hehe  :?
I've been using a fulltone clyde deluxe for about 2 years now.  Bago yun Cry Baby.  The deluxe clyde is much more musical, very expressive.  Its also versatile.  You can adjust the wah to emphasize certain frequency ranges.  I think you can do the same frequency adjustment with the Cry Baby 535Q but the Fulltone is much more sweeter.  Here is picture of my set up.

(http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/mn26288/P1010445.jpg)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on August 13, 2007, 02:47:46 PM
Wow sir, mukang promising yang fulltone clyde ah! :-D available kaya yan dito sa pinas? mga magkano kaya ang prize nyan dito? :-D
wala kc akong makita sa musiciansfriend na site.

Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: lovecore on August 13, 2007, 03:41:03 PM
si stellar nagbebenta. 14k ung deluxe. 12 yata yung standard
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Filippo on August 14, 2007, 11:02:11 AM
is the difference between the two really worth the diff in price?

sana nasa states lang tayo.... 265 dollars clyde deluxe na.... mga 11,200 lang sana  :cry:

Anyone who can compare the fulltone clyde deluxe or standard to a budda wah? ok rin daw to ... confused again hahaha RMC i heard is great too but no one carries RMC here e.... too bad
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: fretburner on August 14, 2007, 12:49:02 PM
im very happy with my zakk wylde wah
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: embot on August 14, 2007, 01:00:48 PM
is the difference between the two really worth the diff in price?

Masyadong subjective yang question nayan.  After all lahat naman nang wahs na pinagu-usapan natin dito are good and proven products.  Isa pa whats nice and musical to me might be sterile and lacks character to you.  For some 14000 is a small price to pay if you love the tone.  Sa iba, especially if you're just experimenting and you don't know if this pedal is going to be a regular part of your music, then your better off buying another a cheaper wah.  

If this is your first wah you can't really go wrong with a wah from Crybaby, Morley or Vox.  Katakot-takot na hits ang na record using those wahs.  You too might decide that paying the extra cash for a Fulltone or a Budda is not worth the money.

Pero sa case ko I need all the help I can get, tonewise.  Kaya Fulltone sakin.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Filippo on August 14, 2007, 01:20:38 PM
is the difference between the two really worth the diff in price?

Masyadong subjective yang question nayan.  After all lahat naman nang wahs na pinagu-usapan natin dito are good and proven products.  

+1

sige ganito na lang.... sulit ba sa yo yung dinagdag na features for 2k more? :)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: Bart on August 14, 2007, 02:11:59 PM
Pareng Filippo,
Hindi pa ako nakakasubok ng FT Clyde, pero yung Teese wah (RMC2 at Wizard) subok ko na. Malaki talaga ang deprensya sa Crybaby. Kahit pa yung 535Q (dati kong wah) na supposedly eh 'the Swiss Army knife of wahs' (daw) eh ang layo sa tunog ng RMC wah. Very vocal ang Teese RMC. Kaya para sa akin eh 'justified' yung ibinayad ko.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Filippo on August 14, 2007, 02:37:31 PM
Bartocomus Prime!!! Long time no hear parekoy!!!  oo nga e, heard a lot of good things na about that RMC wah... affordable pa.... sayang lang talaga na wala niyan dito sa atin dre! How's the sweep on your dre? true bypass rin ba ito? Chaka pag nakaengage na siya how significantly does the voice of your tone change pagnakababa yung wah, sobrang matreble na ba o megyo malapit pa rin sa original mong tone?

Thanks meng, ingat ka diyan! bisitahin mo naman kami dito!  :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: Bart on August 14, 2007, 02:52:12 PM
Mabuti naman, Pre.

Dati in-advertised ko sa Buy and Sell jan yung Teese Wizard wah ko. $165 shipped to your contact here in the States. Kaso nabili na locally.
Anywho, Yung Wizard eh mahaba ang sweep. Medyo may pagka modern yung voicing nito. Hindi ma-treble. For a wah that excells in heavy rock, this one is well balanced. Even without the fuzz friendly retrofit it could easily cut through high gain.
Sabi nga sa website ni G. Teese eh, 'the WIZARD WAH sounds like nothing else on the planet'. Pero kahit na sa clean eh OK talaga yung tunog. Parang hinahalukay yung tunog dahil sa haba ng sweep.

Yung RMC2 naman eh mas vintage yung tunog. Hindi gaanong kahabaan ang sweep pero napaka versatile naman. Para ring 535Q na may external 11 position selector, Q control at volume control. Pero mas versatile yung RMC3, it could cover the ground of RMC1 up to the Wizard. Si Poundcake may RMC3.

Pag dumating yung pang record ko padadalhan kita ng sample ng RMC2. Ibinalik ko kasi yung dati kong pang record eh para sa isang GAS na hindi ako patulugin hanggang hindi maging akin.  :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Filippo on August 14, 2007, 03:07:21 PM
Salamat meng!! very very helpful insights... wah hunting rin ako ngayon e. The ones on my list are the Budda, the Fulltone and the RMC.   :-D hirap  :?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: Bart on August 14, 2007, 03:12:13 PM
Alam mo na ang Budda Budwah eh under Dunlop din, right?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Filippo on August 14, 2007, 03:43:11 PM
Talaga? hmmmmm  :roll:
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on October 24, 2007, 11:36:58 PM
mga sirs, question lang. Ang Vox 847 po ba ok ang vocal sweep kapag heavy gain na? sa thrash metal na tugtugan po kc gagamitin.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: haey2 on October 25, 2007, 02:22:38 AM
mga sirs, question lang. Ang Vox 847 po ba ok ang vocal sweep kapag heavy gain na? sa thrash metal na tugtugan po kc gagamitin.


hmmm...parang di ata babagay sa tone ng vox ang sobrang gain...pero try mo rin bro... 8-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on October 25, 2007, 09:31:44 AM
@sir haey2
ano pong wah ang gamit nyo? baka may ma suggest kayo for thrash metal na tugtugan?   :-D

sa mga Vox V847 users jan. na try nyo na po ba gamitin ang wah na to for heavy gain? mga tipong sa metal talaga? :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: m1k3 on October 25, 2007, 09:41:07 AM
mga sirs, question lang. Ang Vox 847 po ba ok ang vocal sweep kapag heavy gain na? sa thrash metal na tugtugan po kc gagamitin.


dime wah siguro ang para sayo :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on October 29, 2007, 06:20:37 PM
@sir m1k3.
nakita ko po sa sig ninyo na morley powerwah user pala kayo.hehe
i'cant afford kc ng dimewah sa ngayon and yang powerwah ang next in line sa GAS list ko. :-D
ok din ba yan pang heavy gain?  :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: damageplan on October 29, 2007, 08:55:40 PM
got dime wah here syempre the best sya sakin kahit sa iba pang wah...  :-D :-D
sarap paglaruan,,,great toy...  :lol:

got it 10k brandnew sulit......  :lol: :lol: :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: pelipeplips on October 29, 2007, 09:42:25 PM
@damageplan
wow! ayos ah! san kayo nkabili ng dimewah sir na 10k lang? :-o
post naman po ng soundclips jan. :-D hehe
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: m1k3 on October 30, 2007, 10:05:39 AM
@sir m1k3.
nakita ko po sa sig ninyo na morley powerwah user pala kayo.hehe
i'cant afford kc ng dimewah sa ngayon and yang powerwah ang next in line sa GAS list ko. :-D
ok din ba yan pang heavy gain?  :-D

hindi ko pa nasubukan sa heavy gain tong wah ko... more on classic wah ang tunog ng power wah.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: pelipeplips on October 30, 2007, 10:16:02 AM
hindi ko pa nasubukan sa heavy gain tong wah ko... more on classic wah ang tunog ng power wah.

ah ganon ba sir? cge itatry ko nalang.  plano ko na kc bumili mamaya or bukas. thnx! :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: damageplan on October 30, 2007, 11:17:58 AM
@damageplan
wow! ayos ah! san kayo nkabili ng dimewah sir na 10k lang? :-o
post naman po ng soundclips jan. :-D hehe

got it here nakalimutan ko nalang kanino drummer sya eh kaya un binenta nya ng mura at sulit....yung wah brandnew condish parin ganda kahit lagi ako gig maingat ako hehe....lapa soundclips eh  :oops: pero wala ako masasabi,,i tried morley at 535q kakainin nya ng buo yun mga un....opinion kolang to mga guys peace lang po....dipends parin naman sa 2g2gan mo yan...ako techno metal kaya mas swak sya sa taste ko.....basta you know how to use the entire wah bro maganda ang tunog mo cgurado.....khit ano pa yan....  :-D :-D :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: kelmykesph on October 31, 2007, 10:26:18 AM
Very helpful mga suggestions and opinions nyo mga sir. Actually I've been using 535Q for quite some time now and for me ok na ok sya except for the annoying "clicking" sound everytime na engage ko yung wah. Pero over all ok naman.

Ask ko na din how about wah pedals combining with a boss MT-2? Metal zone is a hi-gain pedal right? Ano kaya wah ang fit na kasabay ng MT-2?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: pelipeplips on October 31, 2007, 11:12:37 AM
got it here nakalimutan ko nalang kanino drummer sya eh kaya un binenta nya ng mura at sulit....yung wah brandnew condish parin ganda kahit lagi ako gig maingat ako hehe....lapa soundclips eh  :oops: pero wala ako masasabi,,i tried morley at 535q kakainin nya ng buo yun mga un....opinion kolang to mga guys peace lang po....dipends parin naman sa 2g2gan mo yan...ako techno metal kaya mas swak sya sa taste ko.....basta you know how to use the entire wah bro maganda ang tunog mo cgurado.....khit ano pa yan....  :-D :-D :-D
swerte nyo sir ah. 12k pala yang Dimewah sa PJC.hehe

salamat sa lahat ng mga feedbacks nyo! :-D At long last naka bili na din ako ng wah!hehe  kakabili ko lang last night. d ko pa sya mashado napapaglaruan pero trip ko yung deep vocal sound nya. iba nga ang sound nya compared sa crybaby na 'waaaah', eto parang 'waaaohb'. mala envelop filter ang dating when clean and may kakaiba din syang sound pag distorted na parang 'tiger roar'.hehe this pretty much reminds me of cliff burton's 'pulling teeth'.  :-D
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/pelipeplips/38ac36ec907ff99200734e5aae2c7dc4.jpg)
i tried combining it with my high gain pedals pero parang mejo bitin ang sweep. i'm not sure yet baka sa settings yun ng dist pedal or just my amp crapping out again (low end amp lang kc gamit ko). sa weekend ko nalng to pag experimentuhan ng husto.hehe

tnx! :-D


Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: damageplan on October 31, 2007, 11:43:45 AM
congrats ayos yan.....
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: BlackDiamond on December 13, 2007, 09:48:28 PM
Up ko lang!  :-D

Question sa Ibanez WD-7 owners, I opened up my Weeping Demon, out of curiosity to check the trimpots but I was surprised...

WALANG TRIMPOTS!!!  :x

Brand new ko nabili sa Audiophile to. Nacheck nyo ba ung loob ng unit kung may trimpots?

II don't know kung ganito na talaga mga bagong units ng WD-7... haaaaaaaay!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: haey2 on December 13, 2007, 10:00:13 PM
@sir haey2
ano pong wah ang gamit nyo? baka may ma suggest kayo for thrash metal na tugtugan?   :-D

sa mga Vox V847 users jan. na try nyo na po ba gamitin ang wah na to for heavy gain? mga tipong sa metal talaga? :-)

i used to have a dunlop crybaby(old version, yun nakalagay sa logo - "original crybaby"...the newer one's sound thin for me)...then i switched to vox v847 w true bypass mod...ok to for classic/blues rock tones...ala ledzep or razorback...now im using a dunlop slash wah....so far so good naman, mganda yun feature na dist & vol, though the dist is not as good as any dist pedal...

for metal...try mo wylde wah...heard some good reviews bout that.... 8-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: BAMF on December 14, 2007, 01:04:35 PM
Sa Xmas party! Dalhin nyo favorite wah peds nyo, dalhin ko Modified hellbaberz ko :D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Crybaby (535Q/slash/zakk/dime) vs Bad Horsie vs Vox vs Hell
Post by: hjcals on December 24, 2007, 08:20:16 AM
Pre,

Anong shop sa Singapore ka bumili (pahingi na rin ng address)? May officemate akong pupunta dun this Jan08. Baka papabili na lang ako.

Oks na ako dun sa crybaby gcb95...

Thanks,

11k na yung crybaby sa RJ?!?!!? last time i bought my 1st gen 535q, around 5k petot lang pero mid-90s pa  :-D yung crybaby 535q d2 sa singapore 9k, orig crybaby gcb95 around 5k lang...
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: BlackDiamond on December 24, 2007, 11:59:33 AM
Up ko lang!  :-D

Question sa Ibanez WD-7 owners, I opened up my Weeping Demon, out of curiosity to check the trimpots but I was surprised...

WALANG TRIMPOTS!!!  :x

Brand new ko nabili sa Audiophile to. Nacheck nyo ba ung loob ng unit kung may trimpots?

II don't know kung ganito na talaga mga bagong units ng WD-7... haaaaaaaay!

Binuksan ko ulit ung WD_7 ko, may trimpots nga. Iba lang ung hitsura! heheheheheh
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: hjcals on January 14, 2008, 10:25:56 PM
Pre, kamusta yung Morley Power Wah mo?

Naka-sale sa JB Music ngayon...


swerte nyo sir ah. 12k pala yang Dimewah sa PJC.hehe

salamat sa lahat ng mga feedbacks nyo! :-D At long last naka bili na din ako ng wah!hehe  kakabili ko lang last night. d ko pa sya mashado napapaglaruan pero trip ko yung deep vocal sound nya. iba nga ang sound nya compared sa crybaby na 'waaaah', eto parang 'waaaohb'. mala envelop filter ang dating when clean and may kakaiba din syang sound pag distorted na parang 'tiger roar'.hehe this pretty much reminds me of cliff burton's 'pulling teeth'.  :-D
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/pelipeplips/38ac36ec907ff99200734e5aae2c7dc4.jpg)
i tried combining it with my high gain pedals pero parang mejo bitin ang sweep. i'm not sure yet baka sa settings yun ng dist pedal or just my amp crapping out again (low end amp lang kc gamit ko). sa weekend ko nalng to pag experimentuhan ng husto.hehe

tnx! :-D



Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: hjcals on January 14, 2008, 10:28:02 PM
Pre, kamusta na yung Morley Power Wah mo?

Naka-sale sa JB Music (until Jan 15, 2008 [hanggang bukas na lang]). Tempting to buy...



salamat sa lahat ng mga feedbacks nyo! :-D At long last naka bili na din ako ng wah!hehe  kakabili ko lang last night. d ko pa sya mashado napapaglaruan pero trip ko yung deep vocal sound nya. iba nga ang sound nya compared sa crybaby na 'waaaah', eto parang 'waaaohb'. mala envelop filter ang dating when clean and may kakaiba din syang sound pag distorted na parang 'tiger roar'.hehe this pretty much reminds me of cliff burton's 'pulling teeth'.  :-D
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/pelipeplips/38ac36ec907ff99200734e5aae2c7dc4.jpg)
i tried combining it with my high gain pedals pero parang mejo bitin ang sweep. i'm not sure yet baka sa settings yun ng dist pedal or just my amp crapping out again (low end amp lang kc gamit ko). sa weekend ko nalng to pag experimentuhan ng husto.hehe

tnx! :-D



Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: pelipeplips on January 15, 2008, 11:46:59 AM
@hjcals
sorry sir ngayon ko lang nabasa.

Mejo nakukulangan ako sa vocal sweep ng power wah on heavy gain settings. PERO it seems na ang amp ko lang ang lousy, hindi nya ma-output ng maayos. (rage bass amp lang kc gamit ko).
PERO this doesn't mean na panget ang wah, gustong2x ko pa din sya lalo na in terms of clean to light gain. gusto ko din yung 'waaaohb' vocal sound nya.hehe  Also, maganda din tong wah kc naririnig ko yung notes ko habang nag play specially sa leads. Try ko mag post ng soundclip kung hindi na ko bc.  :-D

Mas ok sir if you try it out for yourself dun sa jb, this wah might be the one you're looking for. chaka kung may crybaby sila dun try mo din A/B yung dalawang wah bago nyo bilhin.   :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: hjcals on January 22, 2008, 06:19:41 PM
Was able to buy the VOX 847A wah pedal at Audiophile (Festival Mall) for P4,800+. Marami pa daw stocks available. Hurry, bili na...

I'm quite satisfied with it, sounds better to me than the Morley Power Wah I tried out at JB music. I'm just a novice guitarist, so don't treat this as expert advice...  :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: pelipeplips on February 08, 2008, 10:48:32 AM
@hjcals
mukang nakaka-GAS yang vox ah. hehe
sir na try nyo na po yang VOX 847A nyo with heavy gain pedals (MT-2, MD-2, etc..)? kumusta naman po? Hindi lang bitin ang vocal sweep? :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: White Falcon on August 25, 2008, 10:43:32 PM
Hi mga sir. I was thinking of buying a wah pedal in the near future, and then I saw a Morley na combo. Wah and Volume Pedal siya which I saw sa JBMusic Website. Ok po ba ang morley? I've read the thread and parang maganda ata ang morley. Nakita ko kasi na combo siya (Wah/Vol) which I both needed. Ok po ba siya?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Opay21 on August 26, 2008, 04:42:42 PM
Hi mga sir. I was thinking of buying a wah pedal in the near future, and then I saw a Morley na combo. Wah and Volume Pedal siya which I saw sa JBMusic Website. Ok po ba ang morley? I've read the thread and parang maganda ata ang morley. Nakita ko kasi na combo siya (Wah/Vol) which I both needed. Ok po ba siya?

I  suggest you get a vox and just have it modded to true bypass, da best yan.!!
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: lovecore on August 28, 2008, 02:16:43 AM
Hi mga sir. I was thinking of buying a wah pedal in the near future, and then I saw a Morley na combo. Wah and Volume Pedal siya which I saw sa JBMusic Website. Ok po ba ang morley? I've read the thread and parang maganda ata ang morley. Nakita ko kasi na combo siya (Wah/Vol) which I both needed. Ok po ba siya?

+1 sa vox but i also tried a morley and i liked it din. i guess the best (if you can get something together) is to A/B it against different brands... or get and RMC hehehe
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: boncram on September 21, 2008, 05:50:18 PM
I also suggest the Vox847. Na try ko yun kanina lang walang sinabi yung GCB95 crybaby. Throaty yung 847 kesa sa GCB95 saka hindi bitin yung sweep. Mas umiiyak kumbaga. Mas maganda talaga tunog. Mas maganda pa itsura =). Sa high gain sinubukan ko ok naman din pero di ko masyado na test eh kaya bahala na kayo dun hehe.
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: raphy137 on October 30, 2009, 04:06:03 PM
ano po ba pinagkaiba ng Dunlop crybaby sa iba ? d ko po maintindhan un po lague suggest nila .... why kaya ?
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: zakk21 on October 30, 2009, 05:14:23 PM
uhmmm...mas magagnda xmpre ang Zakk Wylde Wah...atig talaga un... kaso maganda lng xa kapag may pambili ka...hehehehe....mhal din kasi un eh... pero ok din sakin ung HB01 na hellbabe..un ang gamit ko na wah ngaun eh...heheheh....less expensive kasi ung hell babe...pero nasa gumagamit lng yan... :evil: :-D
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: raphy137 on October 30, 2009, 05:16:46 PM
ah ok . thanks bro !
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: Mindovermatter on October 30, 2009, 06:26:15 PM
I'm using Morley wah. I'm contented with the sound.  :-D Ala "Voodoo Child" ni Jimi Hendrix eh.  :-)
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: red_hot on October 30, 2009, 06:37:58 PM
I also suggest the Vox847. Na try ko yun kanina lang walang sinabi yung GCB95 crybaby. Throaty yung 847 kesa sa GCB95 saka hindi bitin yung sweep. Mas umiiyak kumbaga. Mas maganda talaga tunog. Mas maganda pa itsura =). Sa high gain sinubukan ko ok naman din pero di ko masyado na test eh kaya bahala na kayo dun hehe.

yup Made in USA ayus na ayus hahahaha panalo dami ko na natry na wah eto best tlga
kinakaWAHWAH na nya lahat hahahaha
Title: Re: Weeping Demon vs Dunlop Crybaby vs Morley Wah vs Vox vs Hellbabe
Post by: simon_divitico on November 03, 2009, 06:39:11 AM
ano po ba pinagkaiba ng Dunlop crybaby sa iba ? d ko po maintindhan un po lague suggest nila .... why kaya ?

Di pa ako nakagamit ng ibang wah, crybaby, ibanez and morley pa lang. I'd say mas warm ang sound ng crybaby than the two, mas responsive at di nawawala yung dynamism. Gusto ko nga rin itry yung vox847, pero satisfied pa ako sa gcb95F ko, tsaka na ko magttry kapag may pera