Words of Wisdom from a Sound Tech.

[guitaricci]

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20640-last-call-from-front-of-house

"If you’re playing in a sticky-floored dump with six people in the audience, it’s your duty to play like you’re in a packed arena. Those six people deserve a killer show and that’s the only way to make these gigs fun. Kick their ass and your crowd will grow."

damn right 

[xelalien]

#7 and 9 - mismo 'to

[shoegaze geezer]

nice share ts. 

[simon_divitico]

very helpful. Sayang hindi nagbigay ng tips kung magigig outdoors. May gig pa naman kami on a beach this month! Pero maraming akong napulot still. Narealize ko bigla, ang noob ko pala sa pagtimpla! 

[royc]

Your personal tone is not as important as the overall sound.

[guitaricci]

very helpful. Sayang hindi nagbigay ng tips kung magigig outdoors. May gig pa naman kami on a beach this month! Pero maraming akong napulot still. Narealize ko bigla, ang noob ko pala sa pagtimpla! 

Sabi sa article...pag stadium or any closed space, wag na gumamit ng artificial reverb kasi may natural reverb na yung venue. Kung sa beach...you might want to add some kasi open space sya. hehe 

[simon_divitico]

Sabi sa article...pag stadium or any closed space, wag na gumamit ng artificial reverb kasi may natural reverb na yung venue. Kung sa beach...you might want to add some kasi open space sya. hehe 

Uu naisip ko rin yun kaya lang yung experience ko nung last time na nagig kami sa beach hindi ko matantya volume ng amp ko. Feeling ko lubog na luog (as in). So ang nagyari tinodo ko sa amp not knowing na ang ineexpect pala ng mga tech eh hindi full ang volume ng amp mo.

Pero sobrang hina talaga eh. As in hindi ko na namomonitor yung tunog ko nung sumabay na yung drums (considering the amp was Peavey VK212)

[royc]

Uu naisip ko rin yun kaya lang yung experience ko nung last time na nagig kami sa beach hindi ko matantya volume ng amp ko. Feeling ko lubog na luog (as in). So ang nagyari tinodo ko sa amp not knowing na ang ineexpect pala ng mga tech eh hindi full ang volume ng amp mo.

Pero sobrang hina talaga eh. As in hindi ko na namomonitor yung tunog ko nung sumabay na yung drums (considering the amp was Peavey VK212)

Wala kayong stage monitors? Make sure they are working sa sound check and dun ka tumayo sa tapat while playing.

[simon_divitico]

Wala kayong stage monitors? Make sure they are working sa sound check and dun ka tumayo sa tapat while playing.

Meron chief pero masprefer ko na yung guitar 2 tsaka vox lang yung lumalabas sa monitor ko eh. Yung amp ko na lang yung monitor for my signal para masmadistinguish ko which is which kasi magkahiwalay ng source... Sa beach lang ako nagkakaprob ng ganun. Kapag ibang outdoor gigs naman ok naman. Inisip ko kasi sobrang open tsaka yung noise ng dagat naooverpower yung tunog namin..

[arkeetar]

sa any situation, try ko lang yung sakto lang na nadidinig ko at nadidinig ng mga kasama ko yung s'kin, saka ko inform yung tech na sila ng bahala mag out s'kin sa house. tiwala lang ba, pero minsan nababadtrip din ako pag alam kong di kami mabalanse ng tech 

usual situation naman namin, sariling gear tapos mic in kami ng PA. kaya mas madaling mag control sa side namin.

[fretzburner]

Dapat talaga may good communication yung band members and soundtech. Experience ko dati nilkasan ng bass player amp in the middle of the song at overload labas ng track nya maski anu ginawa ko to turn down the gain.Kadalasan kasi di sila mag sa-soundcheck kaya mostly good sound comes around 2nd-3rd song na.Very important is Souncheck.

[royc]

You can't rely on your amp coz hindi yun ang nadidinig ng audience. Possible na mahina sa amp nyo pero malakas sa PA or vice versa. You can ask a friend to stay with the sound tech as an option.

Sound check with a non band member sa floor is strongly advised before the gig.

[arkeetar]

You don't say na can't rely sa amp, dun lumalabas yung tunog, para s'kin malaking factor na sarili kong amp ang gamit, small factor ang tone compare sa feel na comportable ako,
mas malaking factor yung balance na magkadinigan pare parehas sa stage kahit hindi ganun kaganda ang monitors or kahit wala.
Based on experience. May mga times na kung kelan akala namin na hindi maayos pero nababalanse ng tech sa house.
Agree with a person na nakikipag coordinate sa tech.

Depende sa tugtugan, pinaka iiwasan ko na sumobra ako ng lakas sa stage, yung tama lang sa lahat ng kasama ko.

[Kusanagi]

+1 for this thread. Informative 

[royc]

What I mean is you don't rely on the amp for the volume.

[guitaricci]

You can't rely on your amp coz hindi yun ang nadidinig ng audience. Possible na mahina sa amp nyo pero malakas sa PA or vice versa. You can ask a friend to stay with the sound tech as an option.

Sound check with a non band member sa floor is strongly advised before the gig.

This is important. There were some gigs na hindi na ako tumugtog at nanatili na lng kasama mga sound techs. Kinakausap ko sila habang tumutugtog yung band to increase the mids, bawasan treble, lakasan yung boses etc. Syempre I wanted to play...pero take one for the team.

Also...pag satisfied pala kayo sa overall sound, bigyan nyo rin ng "pang merienda" yung mga sound tech. 

[El Mariachi]

What I mean is you don't rely on the amp for the volume.

nakaka-relate ako dito, nung tumugtog kami sa Ultra [philSports arena] dati...ang hina na ng volume ng amp ko (thinking baka sobrang lakas), pero nung after namin mapanuod ung video, ang lakas pala sa mismong main.. kaya para sa akin, huwag masyado magrely sa 'volume' ng amp mo.. nasa kamay at tenga pa rin talaga ng sound-tech kung paano lalabas tunog mo sa main.. Have faith sa mga sound-techies, chosen profession nila yun eh.. kaya for me, stick to your own 'ear-wise-setup' and the soundtech will do the rest.. 

[El Mariachi]

share ko ung ginawa kong thread relating to this topic:

http://talk.philmusic.com/index.php?topic=277418.msg3789456;topicseen#msg3789456

super noob ako kung anu gagawin nung una, pero ang dami ko na-realize after.. tama halos ang mga payo.. salamat sa PhilMusic! 

[brandey]

http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20640-last-call-from-front-of-house

"If you’re playing in a sticky-floored dump with six people in the audience, it’s your duty to play like you’re in a packed arena. Those six people deserve a killer show and that’s the only way to make these gigs fun. Kick their ass and your crowd will grow."

damn right 

AGREE!!!

[omarpulse]

Your personal tone is not as important as the overall sound.

+1. because you play with the rest of the band.

and may I add, it's not just the volume, but also the parts. each part should complement the rest. otherwise, kahit leveled ang volume ng lahat kung yung parts naman talaga e di akma, "chopsuey" ang labas.

"Great mixes are filled with space, not notes. No one wants to hear 64 bars full of 32nd-notes except the douche-bag blowing them from the stage."

seeing the bigger picture, as what the article stated.

[royc]

+1. because you play with the rest of the band.

and may I add, it's not just the volume, but also the parts. each part should complement the rest. otherwise, kahit leveled ang volume ng lahat kung yung parts naman talaga e di akma, "chopsuey" ang labas.

"Great mixes are filled with space, not notes. No one wants to hear 64 bars full of 32nd-notes except the douche-bag blowing them from the stage."

seeing the bigger picture, as what the article stated.

Quite true. Lagi kong sinasabi sa tinuturuan ko ang songs dapat may feeling, may soft and loud parts. Palitan. Hindi dapat buong kanta iisa ang volume and attack.

[guitaricci]

"14. There is no money above the 5th Fret".

Ano interpretation nyo dyan? 

Mine is:
1. Rhythm guitar playing is important.
2. Yngwie, Vai and Satch are poor (income wise) compared to Taylor Swift, Garth Brooks and Bruce Springsteen. hehe 

[royc]

"14. There is no money above the 5th Fret".

Ano interpretation nyo dyan? 

Mine is:
1. Rhythm guitar playing is important.
2. Yngwie, Vai and Satch are poor (income wise) compared to Taylor Swift, Garth Brooks and Bruce Springsteen. hehe 

Probably means that songs without long lead parts sell more today.

[synapse1]

+1
and "we sleep when we're dead"