? about recording

[Jazz_thunderbird]

what kind of mic can you guys recommend for good vox recording..?

also, what kind of software? i have audition, sound forge and cubase.... would u guys recommend others?

[LouieAzcona]

sonar. yun palang nagagamit ko buong buhay ko. hehe. since first year high school ako. ngayon, graduating na ako sa college. dati wala pang sonar, cakewalk lang.

chka balita ko, sonar daw yata ang gamit ng walt disney sa mga animations nila. tama ba? may nabasa akong ganon eh.

sa mic, madami kang options.
first na decent mic ko ay SAMSON CO1u.
Large diaphragm condenser mic siya.
USB powered. so hindi mo na kailangan ng mixer or pre-amp para kumuha ng phantom power. dahil sa PC kumukuha ng power.

sa madaling salita: walang arte!

P4500.00 sa audiophile

of course, madami pang iba diyan na maganda, ito lang ang napili ko kasi tight ang budget ko. pero sobrang sulit. nakakatuwa.

goodluck

[bassman88]

You're definitely looking for a large diaphram condenser microphone if pang vocals lang yan kaso may kamahalan nga lang... pero ang mura ng bili ni sir louie, 4,500! haha! san mo nascore yan? Mga podcast mics ngayon, large condenser na mura, Im curious about the diff in performance, nakakapagtaka ung presyo e. Although, if you're thinking of using the mic for instruments too, i suggest you get the ever reliable shure SM57, haha! everything sounds good in it, plus it's affordable, ang alam ko meron jan sa classifieds nagbebenta nun or if gusto mo brand new, sa  audiophile. i hope nakatulong ako. haha!

[Jazz_thunderbird]

salamat sir.. i'll try sonar too. balita ko rin nga madami gumagamit ehh... medyo baguahan ako sa experimentation when it comes to mics ehh.. mas ok ang large diaph. na mic tama ba? and dapat condenser siya?:/

iniisip ko kasi, baka pwede na rin sana yung gagamitin ko sa vox, gagamitin ko rin pang overhead sa drums... haha. pwede ba yun? may nabasa kasi akong gumagawa nun sa states ehh...

san ko pa ba kelangan padaanin para maganda tlga tunog niya? besides my mixer/interface and perhaps a compressor?

[KitC]

what kind of mic can you guys recommend for good vox recording..?

This is a bit hard to recommend because certain mics tend to fit certain vocals. While condensers are somewhat the de facto standard, you are by no means required to get one immediately because they can be either expensive (for a good quality mic), or just plain crap if you end up buying the really cheap ones made in some OEM factory that produces capsules for several cheap brands. If you want a good all rounder startup mic, it's usually hard to go wrong with a Shure SM-58. For condensers, there are inexpensive models from Behringer, Samson, MXL, Audio Technica and many others, but I suggest doing a little research on the particular model you have in mind.

also, what kind of software? i have audition, sound forge and cubase.... would u guys recommend others?

You have a good set of software already. I suggest getting to know what you already have instead of acquiring other software, especially if you are already used to Audition and/or Cubase. Others have suggested Sonar... I have both Cubase and Sonar and I can attest that either one will do well for recording. I am proficient with both, but I have gravitated more towards Sonar because it fits the way I do midi.

[jv21]

for ease of use, pwedeng Sony Vegas ka muna although this is more of a video editing software pero pwede rin naman to sa recording..

pero if for professional use, go for sonar 6/cubase/or pro tools. depende na dn cgruro sa gamet mo na audio/midi interface. some audio/midi interface are compatible with a particular recording software.. and if more on midi ka, go for sonar 6. hehe

regarding mic, if dual purpose ka (mic for vox and drums), go for a condenser mic.  tas bili ka na rin ng dynamic mics since hndi lahat ng part ng drums eh pwede gamitan ng dynamic mic.

 

[bassman88]

someone's selling an AT2020 microphone sa ads sir, it might be what you're looking for.

[LouieAzcona]

You're definitely looking for a large diaphram condenser microphone if pang vocals lang yan kaso may kamahalan nga lang... pero ang mura ng bili ni sir louie, 4,500! haha! san mo nascore yan? Mga podcast mics ngayon, large condenser na mura, Im curious about the diff in performance, nakakapagtaka ung presyo e. Although, if you're thinking of using the mic for instruments too, i suggest you get the ever reliable shure SM57, haha! everything sounds good in it, plus it's affordable, ang alam ko meron jan sa classifieds nagbebenta nun or if gusto mo brand new, sa  audiophile. i hope nakatulong ako. haha!

sa audiophile ko nakuha yung mic.

hindi ko maalala kung 4500 ba talaga o 4400.
basta hindi bababa ng 4, hindi tataas ng 5.
mura no? haha

[Jazz_thunderbird]

salamat sa mga info mga sir! much appreciated... super noob pa kasi ako sa recording...

to put it clearer, heres the plan sir.

For the drums, i'm planning to get a package... it'll be incredible if i can get a shure or a sen. package. but if not, i'll settle for the NADY or CAD... halos pareho lang naman yung contents nun sets nila. 3 for toms. one for the kick. one for the snare and two condensers for the cymbals. ok na ba yun?

I'm also planning to get a SM57 to replace the snare mic... i'm open to experimentation so i might use the snare mic for the Hi hats... para lang mas defined? ok ba yun? pwede kaya yun?

bsta gusto ko clear sound without bleeding.

as for the guitars, our effects have interfaces naman. and mukang kaya na namin makuha yung gustong tunog dun. if not, the SM 57 would again be really handy and we can use it to mic amps. tama ba? haha.

now for the vox, I'm considering all that were said and suggested by you very helpful people:) plus these... MXL 990 Condenser Microphone, Shure KSM27 Studio Condenser Microphone, Shure 55SH Series II Mic (ito pwede din pang live), MXL MXL 992 Large-Diaphragm Condenser Microphone, Behringer B-1 Large-Diaphragm Cardioid Condenser Mic...

Since most of them are condensers save for the shure 55sh, I'm also planning to use them as overhead mics for my drums. pero the main focus will still be on the vocal recording end.

ayaw ko sana tipirin for the quality of both the recording and the equipment. medyo invesment na rin yan considering na medyo bata pa kami. hahaha. pero wag naman yung super mahal na di na ako makakauwi!

I'm also getting a Compressor (ano ba ang maganda?) and perhaps a Alesis Fire Wire mixer. Gusto ko kasi, Pag nagrecord ng drums sa multi track, separated each input/mic so i can tweak em if needed to. and may phantom power din.

as of now, it seems that i'll be the one handling the Drums and Vox? and the string parts will be recorded sa guitarist namin. pwede rin sa kanya na kami mag record ng vox. dalhin ko nalang yung gamit. hehe. astig mac nya eh! hahaha! BLOODYVAI!

anyway, ano pa ba mga kelangan namin mga sir?

PAra pala sa vox namin, ito yung boses niya. www.purevolume.com/verbacoma may vox na yung song na VOICEBOX IN PERIL. btw, we love to do voicings/blending nun vocals kasi vocalist din yung isang gitarista namin. hahaha. so lumalabas isang mataas na boses at isang mababa pag nag bleblend sila. may marerefer ba kayo na mic?

sobrang saya na namin sa ganyang recording. so i guess that's the sound we want to produce. sana AT LEAST ganyan if not better. thanks to Yosef and Beef studio 4 the recording btw=)

super thanks tlga 4 the help everyone and hope to hear more:D

raaaaaak! \m/

[LouieAzcona]

ano ibig sabihin nung sa guitarist nalang irerecord yung guitar tracks?
ibang lugar ba yun?

i suggest na pag-isahin nalang ninyo ung lugar.
as we all know, recording a song can consume one whole day. another story pa ung mixing and mastering
baka makabagal kapag palipat lipat kayo. nakakapagod.

pero kung ako ung gitarista mo, hindi ko iiwan sa ibang lugar ung MAC eh! hahaha
pero suggestion lang naman, nakakatamad kasi magrecord kapag may mga delay.

kung open ka naman pala sa experimentation, mukang good to go ka na, maganda naman plano mo eh. pwede ka naman magupgrade kapag hindi ka masaya sa mga equipments eh. benta mo. at least hindi na ganon kalaki ang gagastusin mo sa pag-upgrade.

kung mabibili mo lahat ng nasa listahan mo, ayos ka na. actually, delekado pa kapag sobrang mahal ang mga first gears mo, considering na sinabi mo na noob ka sa recording. mas madami kang matututuhan kapag magsimula sa basic.

hindi naman sa nagseself pity ako ah, kasi nagse-self study lang din ako sa recording, maswerte ka nga at ganyan na ang navivisualize mo. ako, mukang months pa ang bibilangin para makakuha ng sm57 nang hindi nasasacrifice ang ibang gastusin.

goodluck sayo bro! its nice to hear na may taong kaparehas ko ng pinagdadaanan! haha
para akong may classmate!

kaya goodluck sayo at goodluck satin!

[Jazz_thunderbird]

ayun sir, buti may kadamay ako!:)

maganda nga sana sir kung pagiisahin nalang. kaso nga lang yung prob namin yung drumset and yung insulation din=/ kaya medyo kinoconsider tlga namin yung interface nalang... hehe.

kung dito yung vox at yung geetars, that means ako yung mag mimix... eh bano pa naman ako dun. hahahaha! so sa kanya nalang kasi mas bihasa siya. though when we recorded our song naman, we recorded the drum tracks from a diff studio than the one where we recorded the guitars/bass and vox. so yun yung inspiration. chaka trip din naman ng mga kabanda ko mag roadtrip. hahaha!

[bloodshedd]

(anu ba yan! magtatrabaho nanaman ako!)

Elo! Mukang wala ka pang interface...

Tell ko lang sayo yung mga stuff na available here sa pinas...

Check the M-AUDIO DELTA 1010 or FIREWIRE 1814...

[LouieAzcona]

uu nga noh!
interface!

ay teka? wala pa ba ang MAC non?

sorry wala akong alam sa MAC. kung meron man, may means parin dapat kung pano marerecord seperately ung pieces ng drumset

[Jazz_thunderbird]

hmmm... di pa ba pwede yung Alesis 2.0 or yung fire wire version nun?=/

yung fx ko b2.1 u may usb connector na din=/ chaka yung pod nun guitars....

pero naisip ko lang.... may latency kaya yun?=/

[ailes]

uu nga noh!
interface!

ay teka? wala pa ba ang MAC non?

sorry wala akong alam sa MAC. kung meron man, may means parin dapat kung pano marerecord seperately ung pieces ng drumset

MAC??? 

[j3yps]

MAC??? 

aileen!! hehehe pagtungkol sa mac bakamakatulong ako mac user din kasi ako eh, pero yang si aileen ang expert hehehe

[moogerfooger]

depende po sir kung ano gamit nyo ( PC, MaC or HACKintosh) kung mac, i recommend using PROTOOLS though ok din sya s PC. sa MiCs.. chek nyo NEUMANNs or AKGs.

sa ngyon po kasi mejo mura na ang quad core PC at mejo malakas na din yon. Nga lang iba ang requirement ng quad core pagdating sa memory. dpat mga 2gig man lng cguro and ang protools naman wala gaanong issue sa memory.

[LouieAzcona]

teka nga. hindi kasi ako mahilig magresearch. ano ba talaga meron sa MAC? alam ko lang mas mahal siya eh. haha.

[moogerfooger]

 :-)Don't think that a vocal mic has to be a large diaphragm condenser.  There are many fantastic sounding dynamic vocal mics.

The more dynamic (louder) the vocalist, the less sensitive the mic needs to be.  Some condenser mics will distort like madness if the vocalist is too close when they scream and it is an awful sound, especially if you are wearing headphones. 

There is nothing you can do to fix that audio either. Because the distortion happened before the signal hits the compressor, all the compression in the world cannot help. 

  If there is a -10 or -20 pad on the mic, use it with untrained wild vocalists.  Otherwise, use a dynamic mic which is less susceptible to break up under high sound pressure levels (SPL).  Or you can  have them take a step back before they commit their bellow from their personal living hell.

[ailes]

teka nga. hindi kasi ako mahilig magresearch. ano ba talaga meron sa MAC? alam ko lang mas mahal siya eh. haha.

Mac or Apple to others is more stable when it comes to recording.. based on my experience, gumamit na din ako ng pc for that pero mas reliable ang Mac..

[jamming_papu]

for vocal mics i think a good large condenser is good and a standard like the people are saying. may mga ambient sounds and frequencies kasi na di kayang makuha ng dynamic mic. eto suggestion ko, Samson CO1. Large condenser mic yun. Pwede sa vox, drums and ac. instruments. Maganda ratings nya sa zzounds.com. Im buying one next-next week. Saka 3k lang yun sa audiophile. kaya lang kelangan mo ng mixer with a phantom power. By the way, im using Ableton live 6 as a software. Madaling gamitin. Package sya with an Audiophile 2496 soundcard. Medyo mahal yun compared to other pc based recording system pero may ilang pros din.