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Title: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Philmusicus Addictuz on March 24, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
Survey lang mga sir! Sino yung mga aral sa music at hindi aral sa music sa atin? i mean yung mga may formal training at wala. ako walang formal training. pagita-gitara lang tapos sulat kanta.  :-D :-D

Edit: as per others request, edited na po ang title...  :-D
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: Mindovermatter on March 24, 2010, 09:44:08 PM
Ako, self taught. Didn't study music.


@ TS: Ayusin mo naman yung thread title mo, parang mali eh.

Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: sireus on March 24, 2010, 09:56:30 PM
magandang title: no formal music lessons thread hehe

ako naman nung nagkagitara ko di ako matuto magchords, yung tinitignan na pattern sa mga song hits,..
nagagalit na nga ate ko dahil binili yung gitara tapos di ako nagtyatyaga mag aral,, ginagawa ko lang nun makikinig ako ng radio tapos naglelead lead kuno ako na start from 1 string lang ginagamit ko hagod hagod,, hanggang naging tatlong string na hehe,, nagtataka lang sila na napapakanta ko daw yung gitara,, nung grade six nako dun palang ako natuto mag chords.. till now naman may mga nagagawa ako sa gitara na hindi ko alam kung 13th ba o augmented or what.. ayun :-D
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: Mindovermatter on March 24, 2010, 10:14:38 PM
magandang title: no formal music lessons thread hehe

ako naman nung nagkagitara ko di ako matuto magchords, yung tinitignan na pattern sa mga song hits,..
nagagalit na nga ate ko dahil binili yung gitara tapos di ako nagtyatyaga mag aral,, ginagawa ko lang nun makikinig ako ng radio tapos naglelead lead kuno ako na start from 1 string lang ginagamit ko hagod hagod,, hanggang naging tatlong string na hehe,, nagtataka lang sila na napapakanta ko daw yung gitara,, nung grade six nako dun palang ako natuto mag chords.. till now naman may mga nagagawa ako sa gitara na hindi ko alam kung 13th ba o augmented or what.. ayun :-D


Possible. I bet when you first hit those few chords, your fingers hurt.  :lol:
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: jamming_papu on March 24, 2010, 10:19:11 PM
magandang title: no formal music lessons thread hehe



i second the motion.  :-)
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: sireus on March 24, 2010, 10:33:04 PM
yup napakatigas pa nun nung ginagamit ko hehehe pero ngayon .009 na
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: Mindovermatter on March 24, 2010, 10:44:20 PM
yup napakatigas pa nun nung ginagamit ko hehehe pero ngayon .009 na


Sanayan lang. We all undergo those stages.  :-D
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: jon ni jeny on March 24, 2010, 10:57:20 PM
i would like to enroll to any guitar clinic myself pero walang time :-( pero i have alot of guitar lesson dvd's at home... :-P ok na rin pero walang note reading un lang ang kulang .... anyone here that could read notes??? panu po????
Title: Re: Sinong mga walang pinag-aralan??
Post by: Erzon on March 25, 2010, 11:56:01 AM
Ako, self taught. Didn't study music.


@ TS: Ayusin mo naman yung thread title mo, parang mali eh.



@TS: yep,yep..,paki-ayus po next time...masyadong sugod(offensive) ang title...
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: kelen on March 25, 2010, 01:44:23 PM
nagenroll ako dati sa center for performing arts malapit samin. naka 24 sessions ako dun. basic lessons ang tinuro sakin. after nun, I'm on my own na
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: BassCog on March 25, 2010, 09:30:14 PM
No formal lessons.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Psychodestroyer-justin on March 26, 2010, 12:03:35 AM
no formal lessons whatsoever.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: brutalgod_project on March 26, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
wala din eh
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: noc22285 on March 29, 2010, 04:03:56 PM
no formal lessons.

i triend pero parang ang bagl ng galaw kaya ayun :-)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: REMNANT OF GOD on March 29, 2010, 04:14:16 PM



aral, sa sariling paraan! di na din ako masyadong o di na talaga ako nagcocover ngayon. masginugugol ko na kasi oras ko sa paggawa ng sariling kanta at pyesa. di ako magaling pero masaya ako sa ginagawa ko ngayon!   

\m/  :evil: \m/
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: etezorus on May 02, 2010, 07:09:03 AM
self-study ako... wala pera pang-enroll ehh..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Moon on May 05, 2010, 06:37:32 PM
I never had any formal lessons.  :roll:

Many years ago, ang saya saya ko nung una kong sali sa forum na pang mga guitar players pero nung nabasa ko na yung ibang mga topic wala akong maintindihan, parang foreign language na.  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: triple 6 on May 06, 2010, 05:29:43 AM
self turo.. ask for theories tsaka nood mga dvd instructional vids.. try mag note read ng drums.. lagi akong pinagagalitan ng MRS. ko (music teacher) kasi minsan pag na kukuha ko na yung nota tsaka yung groove nag tetenga na ako.. hehehe..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: 24242009 on May 08, 2010, 12:02:27 AM
pag hilig mo talaga kahit walang formal lessons..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: etezorus on May 08, 2010, 12:14:47 AM
wala pang-aral eh..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: popoy_goodboy on May 11, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
nor formal training dn....songhits nagsimula..songhits din matatapos. :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: eros00 on May 12, 2010, 10:52:05 PM
self study here...and still going at it...

magandang statement shirt to ah....

"I didn't have formal music lessons when I was a kid."

Hahaha!  :lol:
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: mahikawon666 on June 26, 2010, 09:24:08 AM
SELF STUDY KASI MADAMI AVAILable na books about notations at NANJAN PA INTERNET
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: cholok3 on June 27, 2010, 11:04:41 AM
hindi ko pinasukan yung music na subject ko nung high school. :evil: tinutulugan ko yung math subject ko.. :-D


pero nag sisi ako. T____T
magagamit ko pla sana sa future yun.. wahaha!

in short hinde ako aral sa music. disiplinado lng. hehe
pero buti nalang madami ng lesson ngaun. \m/
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Endshiftresign! on June 29, 2010, 10:24:56 PM
100% self taught sa drums.   :-D

and after 16 years of playing, wala pa rin akong alam sa music theory at yung ibang mga music jargon...at wala pang drums sa bahay...
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: 24242009 on June 29, 2010, 11:05:04 PM


aral, sa sariling paraan! di na din ako masyadong o di na talaga ako nagcocover ngayon. masginugugol ko na kasi oras ko sa paggawa ng sariling kanta at pyesa. di ako magaling pero masaya ako sa ginagawa ko ngayon!   

\m/  :evil: \m/

amen  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: 24242009 on June 29, 2010, 11:06:55 PM
ako nagaaral magisa, bumili ako ng libro. walang pangbayad sa tutor  :-D books, online videos ok na
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: finch. on December 04, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
self study
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: pedaldeaf3 on December 04, 2011, 08:37:50 PM
Self study din, did a lot of covers, tried writing original material (not that easy), didn't buy books but borrowed, copied & downloaded materials & tutorials, on & off on drumming so I'm on a slow (very slow) progress... Would enroll to formal lessons if I had the time and especially cash...
 :-P
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: vitek on December 05, 2011, 10:02:08 AM

 >:D
No Formal Lessons...
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: tiyowoy on December 08, 2011, 08:58:12 PM
I see a trend here. Majority ng mga tao dito ay self-taught. Including me.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: ibanezprestige24 on December 09, 2011, 12:41:16 PM
me 2., no formal lessons., experience lang nagpapa improve sten at tsaga magaral magisa., pero iba parin pagnagaral or maggguide sayo., mas mabilis ang progress., or depende din sa student.,
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: mollenejosh on December 21, 2011, 11:10:22 AM
No, ouido only.
I used book+tape guitar lessons, though. Really helped me a lot.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: sonikyut on December 21, 2011, 11:20:34 AM
neither  :nosebleed:
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
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Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: electronictokwa on December 30, 2011, 10:08:23 PM
No formal lesson. Self study lang talaga. Mahirap lang discipline, kasi iba talaga pag may teacher ka., ma push ka talaga tumapos ng piece  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: mark10_castilleja on December 31, 2011, 08:11:16 PM
self taught lang  :)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: renkid2233 on January 01, 2012, 02:03:33 AM
hmm .. ako discover ko lang .. I never thought I have a talent like this. . guitar, vocal, and writing a songs .. In our family I'm only the son that playing a guitar and do writing a songs .. hehe. .
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: rockywatnow on January 03, 2012, 04:28:40 PM
No formal lessons/study,  puro non formal  :-P :-P
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: silverbolt1097 on January 03, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
Nope. Wala akong formal training/classes or lesson. Self-study pero hanggang ngayon hindi ko pa rin kabisado ang mga scales and modes simply because hirap talaga ako memorization. Wala nga akong matutunan sa mga instructional videos ni John Petrucci and other artists eh.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Mr.Yos0 on January 03, 2012, 10:24:33 PM
wala din. self-taught.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: the_godfather on July 18, 2013, 09:38:33 PM
sa jingle beatles songbook natuto, chord chart lang. nagtry magpaturo sa kaibigan kong lead guitarist, binigyan ako ng mga scales at kung ano-ano pa. kaso nakakatamad magpractice, kaya ayun. strum strum at sa feel na lang humuhugot.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: gnarly on July 18, 2013, 10:07:56 PM
i was educated by jingle magazine's chord chart.  :)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Autoplay2009 on July 18, 2013, 10:56:42 PM
Aral, yes. Fomally, no.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iceblink-luck on July 18, 2013, 10:59:53 PM
During 90's rock and rhythm mag now youtube university nako nagaaral .. :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: gnarly on July 18, 2013, 11:14:17 PM
salamat din sa guitarworld magazines  :)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: DiMarzSiao™ on July 19, 2013, 01:27:31 AM
salamat din sa guitarworld magazines  :)

at sa photo-copier machines.  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: gnarly on July 19, 2013, 01:28:36 AM
at sa photo-copier machines.  :-D

tama!  :)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: red lights on July 19, 2013, 08:44:41 AM


sa jingle magazine, natutong mag-gitara
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: CeL1916 on July 19, 2013, 09:05:22 AM
Nag training ako kay guthrie govan.. Di nga lang niya alam
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: rickbig41 on July 19, 2013, 09:19:57 AM
Nag training ako kay guthrie govan.. Di nga lang niya alam

Hahaha..ako din,nagtraining kay andy james,di nya din alam...hahaha...
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: fretboard on July 19, 2013, 02:16:49 PM
Nag training ako kay guthrie govan.. Di nga lang niya alam

sample naman ng guitar slap  :-D

Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: CeL1916 on July 20, 2013, 12:30:12 AM
sample naman ng guitar slap  :-D

Di pa niya naturo.. Nung last session namin tumalon yung cd.. :lol:
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Big_Guy on September 22, 2013, 06:26:41 PM
Survey lang mga sir! Sino yung mga aral sa music at hindi aral sa music sa atin? i mean yung mga may formal training at wala. ako walang formal training. pagita-gitara lang tapos sulat kanta.  :-D :-D

Edit: as per others request, edited na po ang title...  :-D

Hindi aral. Mahilig lang talaga kumanta. I have a feeling na ako yung parang william hung and all those people sa AI na minotivate ng family and friends na magaling sila kumanta, and it turns out na hindi naman. But, I wanted to prove something... prove as in I wanna discover it myself  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: synapse1 on March 11, 2014, 05:23:27 PM
talent na cguru.  :cool: haha joke lng. self-taught lng bro, basa dami libro
dyahe lng dahil minsan nasustuck ako dahil hindi ko alam kung ano pang dapat kong matutunan.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: nicoyow on June 12, 2014, 12:00:19 AM
i was educated by jingle magazine's chord chart.  :)
+1

me too!

actually bloodline nmin music, but ako lang ang hnd ngtraining or pumasok sa music school. i can read notes a little bit, pero more on OIDO ako. (salamat kay sir fretboard sa pagcorrect nung term) :)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: brighteyesbayside on June 12, 2014, 12:08:02 AM
never had formal training/studies.

"had" this big theory book at home for a while, scanned it for some time, until i could finally turn the pages without passing out. learned a quite a lot from that book. now i can't find the damn thing.

there are also teachers in youtube. which i think is great.
if you can search for their channel's, look for justinguitar and creativeguitarstudios.

they have like weekly to semi monthly uploads
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: j.nikko3123 on June 12, 2014, 12:12:46 AM
Not formally but, my grand father was musically trained when he was in the army,he taught me some theory and that somehow kick started everything.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 12, 2014, 01:34:43 AM
Aral.. Masarap rin.. Malaking bagay rin talaga lalo na pag sume-session at may sharing.. Laking tulong at ginhawa.. Yet, nakakainggit pa rin minsan yung mga hindi aral pero mas mahusay pa kesa sa mga aral.. Talas kasi ng tenga eh, magaling sumabay, ultimo melody at rhythm, lalo na harmony!
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: chazkidlat on June 16, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
Hahaha..ako din,nagtraining kay andy james,di nya din alam...hahaha...


ako nag training sa mga mata ni georgina wilson, sa labi ni solenn heusaff di lang nila alam.   YET. haha
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: j.nikko3123 on June 16, 2014, 07:24:27 PM

ako nag training sa mga mata ni georgina wilson, sa labi ni solenn heusaff di lang nila alam.   YET. haha


you're a makeup artist?
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: chazkidlat on June 16, 2014, 07:34:52 PM
blues player ako eh i need girls. kaw naman.. metalhead ka no?
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: j.nikko3123 on June 16, 2014, 07:48:14 PM
Just kidding dude,I was just confused with how you learn something from eyes and lips aside from doing makeups.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: blazed014 on June 16, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
Ako self study/taught lang din, nagstart sa songhits (I remember may kantang "otso-otso" dun sa songhits :lol: ) then may binigay pinsan ko mga scale, finger exercises etc. ung may nakalagay na watermark na "Fade to Black Music" tapos inestafa ng klasmeyt ko dati.  :-(
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: ablat on June 16, 2014, 08:35:46 PM
Yung mga self taught magaling kumapa ng song just by ear. Agree?
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: chazkidlat on June 17, 2014, 05:25:19 PM
Just kidding dude,I'm was just confused with how you learn something from eyes and lips aside from doing makeups.

hehehe  :-)
lahat naman tayo dito ginaganahan mag solo and mag rock out for the chicks.

hehehe  :wave:

or for the love ones.

parang di na uso yung Guitar Gods ngayun.

nung napanood ko yung podcast interview ni georgina wilson. :cute: :drool: nadurog puso ko so nag slow blues ako sa dilim.

sayang di ko narecord. haaaaaayyy.. di ko na maulit.
 :cry:

nanood nalang ako nung 60seconds ni heart evangelista with ella fitzgerald na sounds..

ang landi nung sustain ko..basta kakaiba. dun ko na conclude.. dun ko nanakukuha yung drive ko. wala sa lalakeng guitar god weheheee...

feeling ko lang ha..lahat tayo may ganung side..chicks and guitars parang mashed potatoes and gravy sila. :) Rainy Season and Spicy Seafood Mami. etc.  (well point of view ko lang yun)

Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: nicoyow on June 17, 2014, 10:19:50 PM
Yung mga self taught magaling kumapa ng song just by ear. Agree?

exactly. ung mga aral they need music scores ng particular song.

ung natugtog sa singing Bee, SOP, ASAP, etc. yon mga nka music score sila. mga nag aral. kaya khit ano ilatag mo na kanta saglit lang sa knila, pero tayo we need hours to get the chord patterns and riffs ng song by listening.

opinion lang din. not sure about it. pero when i see my uncle reading notes nung nsa orchestra pa sya, minutes lang buo nya na ung part nya
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 18, 2014, 10:22:49 AM
self taught musician here as well.

AS much as I am proud of being a self taught musician, I still feel na yung mga formally trained ang may advantage. :| i wish i took lessons... </3
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: tipipeski on June 18, 2014, 05:33:17 PM
exactly. ung mga aral they need music scores ng particular song.

ung natugtog sa singing Bee, SOP, ASAP, etc. yon mga nka music score sila. mga nag aral. kaya khit ano ilatag mo na kanta saglit lang sa knila, pero tayo we need hours to get the chord patterns and riffs ng song by listening.

opinion lang din. not sure about it. pero when i see my uncle reading notes nung nsa orchestra pa sya, minutes lang buo nya na ung part nya

practice is the key to everything.
No one taught me to use chords, and now im verse at it. especially sa pag iimprovise.

madali lang mabasa ng scores, bigyan mo ng 3hrs per day.. wala pang 1 year, karne na sau yan..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: nicoyow on June 18, 2014, 05:50:06 PM
practice is the key to everything.
No one taught me to use chords, and now im verse at it. especially sa pag iimprovise.

madali lang mabasa ng scores, bigyan mo ng 3hrs per day.. wala pang 1 year, karne na sau yan..
yes practice is the key. pero syempre dahil nkamulatan natin ung traditional process natin na mga self taught, minsan disregarded na ung matutunan mo bumasa ng notes which is wrong. pag musician dapat flexible.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 18, 2014, 07:50:19 PM
exactly. ung mga aral they need music scores ng particular song.

ung natugtog sa singing Bee, SOP, ASAP, etc. yon mga nka music score sila. mga nag aral. kaya khit ano ilatag mo na kanta saglit lang sa knila, pero tayo we need hours to get the chord patterns and riffs ng song by listening.

opinion lang din. not sure about it. pero when i see my uncle reading notes nung nsa orchestra pa sya, minutes lang buo nya na ung part nya

Not necessarily yung mga "aral" kailangan na agad dapat ng music scores. As much as possible lang naman sana meron, to maximize the time being used sa rehearsals.

self taught musician here as well.

AS much as I am proud of being a self taught musician, I still feel na yung mga formally trained ang may advantage. :| i wish i took lessons... </3

Anong sinabi naten sa katatapos lang na EB? "It's never too late to learn everything." Sobrang hanga ako kay sir Reggie nun nung nagpunta sa EB, nagpaka-totoo siya at talagang willing at eager matuto.. Well may advantage din ang self taught.. May iba sa kanila na mas mahusay pa kesa sa "aral" talaga.

practice is the key to everything.
No one taught me to use chords, and now im verse at it. especially sa pag iimprovise.

madali lang mabasa ng scores, bigyan mo ng 3hrs per day.. wala pang 1 year, karne na sau yan..

Practice and dedication is the key.. Dadali na rin naman yung mga mahihirap sa simula in the long run basta may willingness eh..

yes practice is the key. pero syempre dahil nkamulatan natin ung traditional process natin na mga self taught, minsan disregarded na ung matutunan mo bumasa ng notes which is wrong. pag musician dapat flexible.

Tama, dapat flexible sa mga ensayo at gigs at lalo na pag sumesession. Minsan pa naman mahirap makasundo ang nagbigay ng pyesa, sabay last minute babaguhin.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: j.nikko3123 on June 18, 2014, 08:20:15 PM
Common misconception lang siguro sa notation eh yung sinasabi nila yung mga aral nang notation bigyan mo nang music sheet at on the spot matutugtog nya yun, honestly hindi pa ko nakarinig nang sight-reader na naperfect yung sheet on the spot, despite the fact that you can clearly see the flow of notes on the sheet nakakaduling pa rin specially if the score was well ruled out(mas nadadalian ako sa handwritten scores) which is a really a pain if you have to do it live. A good foundation on theory and a highly trained ear is really essential to make sight reading a breeze, even the most well-versed musicians still need ample time to fully get hold of a piece out from the sheets. Practicing before the performance is still really a key in perfecting a piece,sheets are merely guides to those who have it,and its always a matter of expanding your repertoire that makes you look like an "on-the-spot" player(yung kunwari di alam para astig). IMO the only difference here is the credibility of the player, a lot will be more aligned to a conservatory geek over a pub scene guitar virtouso, but from a fellow musician's view we'd rather exchange chops and learn stuff from seasoned pub players because we know they are battle hardened and time tested. Learning music really is a matter of eagerness and dedication.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: nicoyow on June 18, 2014, 08:31:44 PM
Learning music really is a matter of eagerness and dedication.

yan talaga yon! DAPAT MAY PUSO!

+99999
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: harugrugrug on June 18, 2014, 08:39:24 PM
Well the advantage of sight readers is how they manage to fake it without messing it up.hehe
That's one thing I've noticed except lang if they are reading a piece of a classical music which is specific. One thing I've noticed sa mga informally trained fellows is they have a good ear but when communicating with other peeps like the formally trained one,they don't know the terms.

I know people who can really sight read on the spot, but it took a lot of practice as well.
It depends on the instrument also.
I salute the senyor of the scene formally or informally trained,for me it's about experience and making the music feel good,make it swing or whatever it is. You should have heart for this as well,not just reading or playing music technically. Like blues it takes a big deal of feel to it,it's not inborn,hehe.It's not about where did you study or who taught you or you a have a long line of experience.

Anyway aral ako,one advantage is studying books on my own but experience still brings a big factor on your playing.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: fretboard on June 19, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
self taught  --> aral pa rin yan diba?
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: j.nikko3123 on June 19, 2014, 05:08:25 PM
^- mismo, It's like the " tunay na blusero..blah..blah..blah" thread all over again.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: fretboard on June 19, 2014, 05:09:03 PM
^- mismo, It's like the " tunay na blusero..blah..blah..blah" thread all over again.

hahahaha
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Ralph_Petrucci on June 20, 2014, 10:28:40 AM
yan nanaman tayo teptep! =)))
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: fretboard on June 20, 2014, 10:37:11 AM
pero nakukuha nyo point ko diba?  :wave:

wala ako formal education sa music, pero self taught ako <-- nagbasa ako ng mga books, nag photocopy ng mga tabs nung highschool, mga songhits na hitik sa chord chart, mga scale na dot diagram lang, inaral ko mga scales.

though hindi ako kasing bangis mag solo ng mga shredder, soloists nakaka pag improv ako pag impromptu jam.


pero aral pa rin yun diba? kasi inaral ko.  :wink:
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 20, 2014, 01:38:36 PM
May punto si fretboard! :-D Dameng ganyan na self taught.

Baka kailangan iba yung pag construct ng tanong.. Let's say, "Formally trained ka ba to play music o Self taught?" :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Raven_0313 on June 20, 2014, 02:21:56 PM
Hindi aral..paturo lang sa tropa hehe at sa sikat na instructor "youtube" :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Raven_0313 on June 20, 2014, 02:24:16 PM
Well the advantage of sight readers is how they manage to fake it without messing it up.hehe
That's one thing I've noticed except lang if they are reading a piece of a classical music which is specific. One thing I've noticed sa mga informally trained fellows is they have a good ear but when communicating with other peeps like the formally trained one,they don't know the terms.

tol ganyan ako haha i can do it kase tinuro ng friends during tambay pero the terms? i really dont know 
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: samuelfianza on June 20, 2014, 03:22:23 PM
Had a few basic piano lessons when I was a kid. When I switched to guitar, everything was self learned; applying what I've learned in piano.

Ngayon balik piano ulit (after 12 years) ako nag se-self learn, applying what I've mastered in guitar (theory and etc.)
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Raven_0313 on June 21, 2014, 03:39:07 PM
Had a few basic piano lessons when I was a kid. When I switched to guitar, everything was self learned; applying what I've learned in piano.

Ngayon balik piano ulit (after 12 years) ako nag se-self learn, applying what I've mastered in guitar (theory and etc.)

Is it true that if you first learn piano it would be easier to learn other instruments?
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: samuelreyes on June 21, 2014, 04:04:19 PM
Is it true that if you first learn piano it would be easier to learn other instruments?

not necessarily, pero masmadali intindihin ang music theory sa piano compared sa ibang instruments...
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: mbsunga on June 21, 2014, 07:47:51 PM
Self taight ako.
Mabilis ako natuto kase medyo marunong ako mag piano. Inaapply ko lang yung mga alam ko sa piano sa gitara. Hindi rin ako nag aral ng formal lessons sa piano.

I wish nagaral ako dati kaso walang pera dati

Ngayon naman i feel old to take up formal lessons and mahirap na baguhin ang nakasanayan kong method of playing
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: samuelfianza on June 21, 2014, 09:02:23 PM
Is it true that if you first learn piano it would be easier to learn other instruments?

For me YES kasi andun na lahat yung Bass, Rhythm, and Lead.

It has a huge impact (kahit basic lang pinag-aralan ko) on my playing and composition.

Pero depende parin sa tao yan.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Raven_0313 on June 22, 2014, 03:08:40 PM
not necessarily, pero masmadali intindihin ang music theory sa piano compared sa ibang instruments...

sabagay to learn piano you must have formal ed. so you'll know the theories easily
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Raven_0313 on June 22, 2014, 03:10:54 PM
For me YES kasi andun na lahat yung Bass, Rhythm, and Lead.

It has a huge impact (kahit basic lang pinag-aralan ko) on my playing and composition.

Pero depende parin sa tao yan.

ah i see...
so dyan na pumapasok ung talent part ng tao
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 23, 2014, 12:39:55 AM
Is it true that if you first learn piano it would be easier to learn other instruments?

Yes it's true. Pinaka-basic bukod pa sa Acoustic guitar. Maganda lang sa Acoustic, you can practice or learn anywhere. Kahit sa loob ka pa ng kwarto mo o kahit saan talaga. Then apply na lang sa iba pang tuned instruments.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Raven_0313 on June 23, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
Yes it's true. Pinaka-basic bukod pa sa Acoustic guitar. Maganda lang sa Acoustic, you can practice or learn anywhere. Kahit sa loob ka pa ng kwarto mo o kahit saan talaga. Then apply na lang sa iba pang tuned instruments.

Yup very handy and marami tutorial sa youtube about guitars compared to pianos..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: tipipeski on June 23, 2014, 08:56:00 AM
gusto ko ma master ang blues.. para maging tunay na bluesero. wahahhaha


kidding aside, gusto ko talaga maging mahasa sa foundation ng blues, kasi ang sarap isingit sa lahat ng mga improvisations..
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on June 23, 2014, 12:53:12 PM
gusto ko ma master ang blues.. para maging tunay na bluesero. wahahhaha


kidding aside, gusto ko talaga maging mahasa sa foundation ng blues, kasi ang sarap isingit sa lahat ng mga improvisations..

OT:
Same thoughts here sir! Tara aral tayo ng blues.. Gusto ko rin mahasa drumming skills ko sa Blues eh.. Sabay takbo muna before or after blues lessons.. Hahaha!
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: fretboard on June 23, 2014, 05:14:08 PM
actually magandang foundation talaga blues, lalo na kung leaning toward ka sa Heavier genre laking tulong.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: vinceparil on January 10, 2015, 01:32:27 AM
Dominantly self taught. :-D

I first learned guitar from my young uncle, he taught me Chords A and G. Then I found a chord book at my house, studied the basics of it. Then I learned to read tablature from websites learning to do the solos note by note. After that, I learned basics of music theory from another uncle of mine, he taught me Major and Minor Pentatonic scales. After that, since we only get to see 5-10 times a year I studied on my own, watching videos on youtube, practicing my ears, and reading some music eBooks that I have!
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: RecklezlyEdward on February 17, 2015, 09:07:28 PM
Self-Taught
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Igor on June 23, 2015, 02:19:52 AM

     Sariling Sikap  :wave:
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: cowboyfromhell on August 04, 2016, 10:08:16 PM
blues player ako eh i need girls. kaw naman.. metalhead ka no?

iba ka talaga idol! miss ko na tele-blues mo!

ako natuto sa jingle magazine at iba pang song hits
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: vinceparil on August 09, 2016, 12:49:27 PM


I didn't study music formally, but I took lessons on music theory from my uncle. Only the basics tho, Major and Minor scale, Pentatonic, constructing a guitar solo, and some techniques! hehe  :-D

Currently, I've been reading books, right now I'm reading Modal Magic by Frank Gambale. hehe

Other lessons I just looked up on the net, watched videos on youtube, and downloaded some instructionional videos on the net hehe  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: red lights on August 09, 2016, 01:05:34 PM
para sakin wala ng tatalo sa Play - Stop - Rewind hangang sa magasgas na yung tape at kainin na ng player.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on September 30, 2016, 11:23:34 PM
Self taught na ngayon sa pag aaral ng gitara. Buti bago nag shut down yung mga torrent sites nakadownload na ng mga e-books. Buti rin nandyan si Youtube. Laking ginhawa rin talaga ni Youtube eh.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on April 03, 2017, 08:00:37 AM
mas ok padin sakin both.

pero pinaka the best is ung my oras ka talaga sa pag eensayo at pag aaral sa sarili at mag aral ng bago. lagi mong iisipin na mas may magaling pa sayo kahit super galing mo na sa tingin mo.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Drummeroo on April 03, 2017, 08:32:11 PM
Sa dating church ko noon naalala ko may isang UST music major nagpapasikat siya ng mga kakaibang time signatures niya. Astig talaga as in. Nung nagpapaturo kami sabi niya: bro kailangang mag aral ka muna ng nota tsaka pumasok ng Conservatory.

Amputa ngayon? Kaya ko makapagbilang ng 9/8, 13/16 7/8 atbp. Sa Youtube at metronome ko lang natutunan. Pero siyempre kung mabibigyan ako ng chance to enhance this skill go ako. Minsan nakakainggit mga estudyante ng Berkley. Ang babata pero pucha.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on April 04, 2017, 07:13:05 AM
Sa dating church ko noon naalala ko may isang UST music major nagpapasikat siya ng mga kakaibang time signatures niya. Astig talaga as in. Nung nagpapaturo kami sabi niya: bro kailangang mag aral ka muna ng nota tsaka pumasok ng Conservatory.

Amputa ngayon? Kaya ko makapagbilang ng 9/8, 13/16 7/8 atbp. Sa Youtube at metronome ko lang natutunan. Pero siyempre kung mabibigyan ako ng chance to enhance this skill go ako. Minsan nakakainggit mga estudyante ng Berkley. Ang babata pero pucha.


tama ka dun. mahirap kasi wala tlagang mag tuturo sayo. pero pag naaral mo ng maayos magugulat sila na widow type player ka lang pala. ^_^at mas humble pa sa mga nakapag aral
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: musicianurse28 on April 05, 2017, 02:25:14 AM

tama ka dun. mahirap kasi wala tlagang mag tuturo sayo. pero pag naaral mo ng maayos magugulat sila na widow type player ka lang pala. ^_^at mas humble pa sa mga nakapag aral

OT:
Paps nakakatakot naman yung "widow". Hehe parang nabyudo agad eh. Hehe. "Oido" :wave:

BTT:
Drumeroo sino yan taga UST Conservatory na yan? Baka kilala ko.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on April 05, 2017, 05:53:35 AM
OT:
Paps nakakatakot naman yung "widow". Hehe parang nabyudo agad eh. Hehe. "Oido" :wave:


hahaha. oo nga noh.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: nicoyow on April 05, 2017, 08:22:59 PM
OT:
Paps nakakatakot naman yung "widow". Hehe parang nabyudo agad eh. Hehe. "Oido" :wave:

HAHAHA. napagalitan pa ako ni fretboard noon jan e. Sabi ko din widow. Oido pala.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Drummeroo on April 06, 2017, 12:53:44 PM
OT:
Paps nakakatakot naman yung "widow". Hehe parang nabyudo agad eh. Hehe. "Oido" :wave:

BTT:
Drumeroo sino yan taga UST Conservatory na yan? Baka kilala ko.

JIL days paps chakky. Pm ko ba?  :-D
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on April 13, 2017, 06:25:06 AM
oido pala ang pinaka magandang term. ^_^
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: marzi on April 28, 2017, 08:33:20 AM
sila CJV di nag aaral ng music yun. pagkapanganak nun, magaling na sila.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on May 02, 2017, 07:33:04 AM
sila CJV di nag aaral ng music yun. pagkapanganak nun, magaling na sila.

hahaha. kasama nung mga alagad nya, mga wisdom gods sila.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Drummeroo on May 02, 2017, 09:40:10 PM
sila CJV di nag aaral ng music yun. pagkapanganak nun, magaling na sila.
pati pagku-Customize ng gitara innate na sa kanya yon. Pagkapanganak niya marunong na mag mix ng kulay para sa gitara.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on May 03, 2017, 04:27:30 AM
pati pagku-Customize ng gitara innate na sa kanya yon. Pagkapanganak niya marunong na mag mix ng kulay para sa gitara.


ganda kaya ng pag banga nya kay sir jon nun. hahaha. akala naman nya makakaya nya ang isang maestro na luthier.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Drummeroo on May 03, 2017, 12:08:35 PM

ganda kaya ng pag banga nya kay sir jon nun. hahaha. akala naman nya makakaya nya ang isang maestro na luthier.
Nabasa ko yon. Kumulo dugo ko eh at napatanong, sino ba 'tong ungas na ito?
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on May 03, 2017, 12:11:12 PM
dun ko lang napatunayan na kups tlga sya.
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Drummeroo on May 03, 2017, 12:36:19 PM
Marami talagang feeling magaling dito sa atin. Fame kasi labanan eh. Pero pag pinatugtog mo king ina magaling pa yung tinuruan mo kesa kanya. Payabangan at Pakupalan
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: iamppej on May 03, 2017, 12:39:40 PM
tama ka dun.

*ako pinakamagaling dito kaya ako ang sikat*

pag dating sa pinaka actual pambihira nga ang galing. (sabihin na natin na may alam) pero pambihira naman ung tunog. mas masakit pa sa tunog lata
Title: Re: Aral ka ba o hindi aral sa music??
Post by: Sardonyx on January 02, 2018, 06:50:57 AM
Nagpapaturo ako sa nanay ko nun kasi nakikita ko sila ng mga kapatid nya natugtog ng guitar... Inabutan lang ako ng songhits na may chordchart.. Buti na lang nagets ko kung pano gamitin.

Tapos natuto din sa ibang mga nakakakilala along the way..Iba talaga pag sumasabit sabit ka sa magagaling..may mapipick up ka...

Tapos nagtake ako ng lessons dun extension program ng UP... pero mejo nadisappoint ako kasi pinagstart kami sa basic, Magbabasa ka ng notes... may idea naman ako ng konti kung papano, so akala ko magsisimula yung lesson sa kung saan alam mo na. Pero start talaga sa simula. Ang tanging valuable na natutunan ko dun is yung value ng practice... Hindi ka talaga gagaling kung hindi mo paglalaanan ng time...

Tapos nahinto...hayun..di ko na tanda kung paano...another lesson... kung hindi mo praktisin, mawawala.....