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Title: They're to blame!...
Post by: toybitz on January 19, 2008, 02:28:18 AM
...MYMP!

I know covers and remakes have long been born in the local music scene..side A and other bands..they make great covers and promote em as a carrier single. well at least, 10% or less of the time.  They launched onto the scene with original songs like hold on...etc.

MYMP, is the most popular, biggest selling duo/band to promote other artists songs...mostly from foreign acts.

a lot have followed their footsteps..Bamboo, Spongecola, Martin Nievera, Christian Bautista....

whatever happened to Pinoy creativity? and friggin' hard work??
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Post by: jakobspiral on January 19, 2008, 05:08:27 AM
Eh...

That sells eh...sadly. :-|

At least Mishka Adams, Sino Sikat, UpDharmaDown, etc.'s still doing great. :-)
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Post by: chromeknive on January 21, 2008, 12:06:15 AM
the only reason "it sells" is coz its the only thing rammed down people's throats so much that people have no choice but to like 'em... not just covers but backwards pop music in general.

if all the labels took risks and tried to elevate the minds of the masses, we could end up like japan or someday, the US, where diversity and open-mindedness cultivated markets for all kinds of art and music.

but no, the labels can't risk that. its still a business and they have families to feed. reality check for the idealistic.
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Post by: jakobspiral on January 26, 2008, 12:56:58 AM
"My biggest mistake was deciding to work for a record company. I'm a musician, but the bottom line in recording companies is to make money."
- Chito Ilagan

(I'm not sure if it's him. read this quote from pulp magazine years ago.)
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Post by: tackielarla on January 26, 2008, 01:05:16 AM
It's all about the money. It's all about the dum-dum -dede-dum-dum. :roll:
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Post by: higad on February 09, 2008, 03:35:43 PM
dati anti din ako sa mga nagco-cover na yan. pero narealize ko na... kung magiging katulad din nila tayo. edi mas lalong mababaon sa paghihirap ang mga bandang may original songs. isipin mo, kung lahat ng banda dito sa pilipinas, puro cover lang yung nire-record.. tapos banda lang namin yung gumagawa ng original songs, tapos machupets pa.. edi sisikat kagad kami. hahaha! kidding aside

ok lang naman e.. kaso sana, yung kanta na gagawin nila e galangin nila, hindi yung mas lalo pang pumapangit (dipende rin naman to sa nakikinig). at isa pa, wala ka namang magagawa kung hindi talaga sila marunong gumawa ng sariling kanta, pero maganda boses at magaling magperform diba? at kung hindi rin sa kanila, hindi ko malalaman yung mga magagandang kanta na pinanggalingan nila kasi hindi na rin naman yun pinapatugtog sa radyo. example, 10 years from now halos bihira mo na maririnig ang mga kanta ng eraserheads sa radyo. tapos may nagrevive ng toyang, nagandahan ako.. sinearch ko yung toyang tapos nalaman ko na eraserheads pala yun.. paano ko malalaman na meron palang bandang eraserheads kung hindi ko man lang sila narinig? parang yung kay mishka adams, kung di ko pa maririnig yung album nya.. di ko pa matutuklasang merong palang  billie holiday :D gets ba? :lol:
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Post by: IncX on February 09, 2008, 03:55:52 PM

i like MYMP... "come on and get me get me get me, baby im yours cmon and get meeee!"

*lol* but seriously ... if i was given front row tickets to their show, i would watch and then talk to juris and chin afterwards.

-*-

if you really hate pop that much you wouldnt watch TV, read pulp or listen to the radio... those who do that, and then complain how much they hate pop are either hypocrites or just ppl who need to get out the house and play gigs.
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Post by: BAMF on February 09, 2008, 08:49:55 PM
Ika nga ni Ely

"Well I knew I couldn't take all that dog food that they make I'd just as sooner put myself on a stake and burn...I saw it coming around...I saw it coming around yehehehehe..."

If we don't like it, then don't buy it. As my friend in the recording industry confided in me "wala kang kikitain ni singkong duling sa CD's". It goes for them, as it goes for us.

So I guess the solution for our happiness is just to ignore what we don't like and do what we do like. If it means going Indie Underground for the rest of our musical careers...then SO BE IT :D

Peace :D
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Post by: insultedgamer on February 10, 2008, 01:00:07 PM
Di'ba parang malaki din ang contribution nung sa "E-heads Anthology"?  :? :-)
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Post by: p2ltronilogd on February 10, 2008, 01:03:51 PM
It's all about the money. It's all about the dum-dum -dede-dum-dum. :roll:
+1

it's all about making money guys!
thats why they call it the MUSIC BUSINESS!
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Post by: urdownfaaal on February 15, 2008, 12:44:17 PM
ganyan talaga eh :-D
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Post by: nO RLY on February 24, 2008, 11:05:36 PM
i just hope it's not an act of desperation.. :| opm still lives. come on!
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Post by: insultedgamer on February 25, 2008, 12:18:04 AM
Di rin siguro natin sila masisisi.  :-)

Talaga namang magaganda ang mga lumang kanta.  :-)
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Post by: urdownfaaal on February 27, 2008, 09:27:22 AM
Di rin siguro natin sila masisisi.  :-)

Talaga namang magaganda ang mga lumang kanta.  :-)
oo nga may katwiran ka pero, c'mon did they want to leave a mark that yung banda nila pang remake lang :-P
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Post by: insultedgamer on February 28, 2008, 05:06:32 PM
oo nga may katwiran ka pero, c'mon did they want to leave a mark that yung banda nila pang remake lang :-P

Siguro di pa nila iniisip yan, baka di pa naman kasi sila aalis.  :-)

Hmmm...Ewan....Maiintindihan ko rin siguro kapag ganap na akong musikero.  :-)
Title: Re: They're to blame!...
Post by: toybitz on March 16, 2008, 02:43:21 AM
Di rin siguro natin sila masisisi.  :-)

Talaga namang magaganda ang mga lumang kanta.  :-)

pop oriented pa rin ang masang pinoy...imo...

tignan mo, sa mga 2 year ago nag guest pa sina James Ingram at Stephen Bishop sa Myx...
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Post by: obelix on March 16, 2008, 03:14:39 AM
pop oriented pa rin ang masang pinoy...imo...


laging pop ang masa... kaya nga pop dahil popular kung ang RHCP nag-click sa masa eh di pop din sila :)
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Post by: toybitz on March 17, 2008, 01:53:09 AM
laging pop ang masa... kaya nga pop dahil popular kung ang RHCP nag-click sa masa eh di pop din sila :)

imo, ang Red Hot, whether click sila or not..hindi sila pop.
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Post by: chromeknive on March 17, 2008, 02:09:52 AM
RHCP = Acoustic OPM
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Post by: slaphappy on March 20, 2008, 02:41:45 AM
people need to make money, less risk yan para sa band at label. narinig nyo na ba yung boys do fall in love ng parokya? hehe

maganda naman yung ibang revival e, kung di ko trip, i just change the station. :-)

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Post by: toybitz on March 22, 2008, 03:49:22 AM
RHCP = Acoustic OPM

bwaahahahahaaa!
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Post by: Kipling241 on March 22, 2008, 11:32:02 AM
haha if you really want to change the economic landscape of the local music industry, buy 1,000,000 copies of every local album that you like and create a demand for the artists that you think should be tha shizz. maybe that'll make them record labels keep up with your vision
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Post by: moogerfooger on March 23, 2008, 01:10:56 AM
Eh...

That sells eh...sadly. :-|

At least Mishka Adams, Sino Sikat, UpDharmaDown, etc.'s still doing great. :-)

right... kakalungkots nga :cry:
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Post by: Kipling241 on March 23, 2008, 11:23:44 AM
right... kakalungkots nga :cry:

actually, hindi masyado
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Post by: uninvit3d on March 24, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
actually, hindi masyado

Baket?  :?
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Post by: moogerfooger on March 25, 2008, 11:51:09 AM
actually, hindi masyado


ayos yan..d masyado apektado :-D
Title: Re: They're to blame!...
Post by: toybitz on March 26, 2008, 04:33:31 AM
Baket?  :?

kanya kanyang taste...

naaappreciate niya siguro..

haha if you really want to change the economic landscape of the local music industry, buy 1,000,000 copies of every local album that you like and create a demand for the artists that you think should be tha shizz. maybe that'll make them record labels keep up with your vision

that's hard even for a billionaire, affordable but crazy.  and i'm hardly a thousandaire..

my vision? its x-ray.  :-D
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Post by: maxi_musikero on March 26, 2008, 07:42:48 AM
music has been, first and foremost, a business.  sad reality.  but you have to pay the bills.  it's really risky business going for originals since you may expend more than you will probably earn.

ironic, but as i remember, MYMP got famous with A Little Bit, an original.  :-(
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Post by: Helmet on March 27, 2008, 03:11:14 PM
If it's about the money...then they should've enrolled in nursing and went abroad  :roll:

But if it's their own music that they want to promote...then happyland is just around the corner...pssst....huuuy!
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Post by: uninvit3d on March 27, 2008, 10:11:00 PM
If it's about the money...then they should've enrolled in nursing and went abroad  :roll:

Dapat nag call center na lang sila..  :mrgreen:
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Post by: SCREWER on March 28, 2008, 06:28:15 AM
THE BEST WAY IS TO LET THESE POPPISH ARTISTS LOG IN TO PHILMUSIC SO
THEY CAN READ ALL THESE PAINFUL AND ENCOURAGING WORDS FROM OUR
NASTY MINDS...WITH THAT, I THINK THEY CAN FEEL LIKE CHANGING SOMETHING IF THEY'RE SENSITIVE.... I HOPE.. :-D
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Post by: uninvit3d on March 28, 2008, 07:04:12 AM
THE BEST WAY IS TO LET THESE POPPISH ARTISTS LOG IN TO PHILMUSIC SO
THEY CAN READ ALL THESE PAINFUL AND ENCOURAGING WORDS FROM OUR
NASTY MINDS...WITH THAT, I THINK THEY CAN FEEL LIKE CHANGING SOMETHING IF THEY'RE SENSITIVE.... I HOPE.. :-D

Some of them are here..  8-)
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Post by: SCREWER on March 28, 2008, 10:02:16 PM
WELL, IF THEY'RE HERE...LET THEM SAY SOMETHING...JUST ANYTHING..
I WANNA LEARN SOMETHING IF I NEED TO :-D
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Post by: powerchord41 on March 29, 2008, 05:13:30 AM
nakakainis talga na puro cover songs nalang lagi noh? tapos napansin ko pa is they tend to over sing the songs.. which ruins the original... haaay... sana maging creative lalo ang mga artists natin para hindi rubbish ang napapakinggan ng mga tao...

-though may few exceptions jan... i think kyla's really good...
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Post by: SCREWER on March 29, 2008, 05:33:39 AM
IT'S EITHER LAZINESS, LACK OF CREATIVITY, OR THEY JUST DON'T CARE WHAT'S GOING ON AT ALL...

IF THEY HAVE FANS, THEY HAVE HATERS TOO..

AND WE HAVE IMPORTANT REASONS TO HATE.. :-)
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Post by: moogerfooger on March 29, 2008, 01:55:45 PM
...MYMP!

I know covers and remakes have long been born in the local music scene..side A and other bands..they make great covers and promote em as a carrier single. well at least, 10% or less of the time.  They launched onto the scene with original songs like hold on...etc.

MYMP, is the most popular, biggest selling duo/band to promote other artists songs...mostly from foreign acts.

a lot have followed their footsteps..Bamboo, Spongecola, Martin Nievera, Christian Bautista....

whatever happened to Pinoy creativity? and friggin' hard work??


gaya ng sabi ko ser..mga producers nila ang nagdedecide ng mga songs na isasama sa album nila at hindi yon basta banda gusto ng banda.

kung gusto ng producer mo na i-remake ang buong album ng APRIL BOYS,, wla ka magagawa ron kundi kantahin mo or quit.

sa ngayon, ang BENTA at ang appeal ng album sa masa ang mahalaga at hindi yung kung anong meron ang banda.

wag nyo muna sisihin ang mga artists natin..dahil hindi sila 100% ang pumipili ng repertoire :-D
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Post by: SCREWER on March 29, 2008, 07:10:24 PM
OK THEN LET'S MOVE ON....SCREW THE PRODUCERS!! :-D...GAMITAN TALAGA!!GRRRR!! walang mga tenga!! si gretchen baretto nasa sm bicutan kanina..mall tour!!hwaaaa!! i'd rather just watch her like a barbie pose than hear her sing!! :-D

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Post by: xavier on March 29, 2008, 08:39:24 PM



kung gusto ng producer mo na i-remake ang buong album ng APRIL BOYS,, wla ka magagawa ron kundi kantahin mo or quit.



i'd be really happy to do this! i lab de epril boys

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Post by: markv on March 29, 2008, 08:49:30 PM
"Nilamon ng sistema"


:(
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Post by: insultedgamer on March 31, 2008, 12:16:33 PM
"Nilamon ng sistema"


:(

"Ng bulok na sistema"


:-(
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Post by: uninvit3d on March 31, 2008, 01:43:59 PM

Underground is much better..  :mrgreen:
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Post by: Helmet on April 01, 2008, 05:07:43 AM
Producers weigh money more than talent...hmmm...di na yata wine-weigh eh...100% na yata ng gusto nila pera...
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Post by: SCREWER on April 01, 2008, 07:01:53 AM
PLAK!! pera lang ang katapat!! :-D...dapat naman talaga balanse lang..
  nag audition kami once sa isang producer, manager din ng isang sikat na showband,,he needed a rock band..he liked our music,pero badtrip kasi sabi ba naman..magdagdag daw kami ng babae na vocalist at gumawa pa ng maraming tagalog...F**K!!! imagine, grunge yung genre nyo at kumpleto na kayo tapos hahanap kapa ng babae na vocalist!!? alam naman nya ndi freestyle yung tunog namin!grrrrr!! understood naman na showband hawak nya pero ndi naman sana siya ganun ka stupid [pineapple]!! :x...ndi naman lahat ng banda desperado gawin lahat para magka pera!! :x
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Post by: Santo Muerte on April 04, 2008, 07:36:58 AM
Some of them are here..  8-)
Hahaha sana nga nababasa nila ang thread na ito. Mga tsong, wag naman sana kayo masasaktan kung marami ang tumitira sa inyo dito, tutal marami naman kayong mga fans na jologs at squatter eh.
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Post by: moogerfooger on April 06, 2008, 07:13:32 PM
OK THEN LET'S MOVE ON....SCREW THE PRODUCERS!! :-D...GAMITAN TALAGA!!GRRRR!! walang mga tenga!! si gretchen baretto nasa sm bicutan kanina..mall tour!!hwaaaa!! i'd rather just watch her like a barbie pose than hear her sing!! :-D



o db, gaya ni ms gretchen b, nadinig na ba natin sya nagbanda or naging vocalist sa isang banda? hinde.  ayon sa circle, sold-out na daw ang CDs nya. :-)

ok lang yan.khit paano may sumusuporta pa rin sa industriya natin. :-)

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Post by: toybitz on April 07, 2008, 12:51:38 AM

gaya ng sabi ko ser..mga producers nila ang nagdedecide ng mga songs na isasama sa album nila at hindi yon basta banda gusto ng banda.



totoo yan. pero the band started it even before the producers took notice.
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Post by: toybitz on April 07, 2008, 12:53:11 AM
Underground is much better..  :mrgreen:

apir

we appreciate the music more..yun lang, tag-gutom ang artist.  :-(
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Post by: moogerfooger on April 07, 2008, 01:08:03 AM
totoo yan. pero the band started it even before the producers took notice.

syempre ser andun n yong tunog at style ng banda :-)

pero ang last say e laging producer :-D
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Post by: toybitz on April 08, 2008, 01:48:35 AM
syempre ser andun n yong tunog at style ng banda :-)

pero ang last say e laging producer :-D

ano ba nauna?

yun gigs nila na puro cover o yun producer nilang nagproduce sa album? hehehe

eh bakit lahat ba ng hawak ng producer ng banda eh nabubuhay sa singles na puro cover songs? hehehehe hehehehe

kumbaga Ser eh...

nauna ba kape barako sa tindahan ng kape o sa klase ng halaman hehehe hehehe hehehe  ititimpla ba natin ng madaming gatas ang kape barako tulad ng mga nescafe at blend 45 kun ang kape ay kape barako? hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe
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Post by: SCREWER on April 08, 2008, 02:45:38 AM
o db, gaya ni ms gretchen b, nadinig na ba natin sya nagbanda or naging vocalist sa isang banda? hinde.  ayon sa circle, sold-out na daw ang CDs nya. :-)

ok lang yan.khit paano may sumusuporta pa rin sa industriya natin. :-)


sold out?..waaaaahhhhh!!!! hindeeeeeee!! ayoko na!! :cry:
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Post by: Helmet on April 08, 2008, 04:19:14 AM
Wag kayo mawalan ng gana...

Treat it as your purpose in life, just don't be blinded by money
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Post by: SCREWER on April 08, 2008, 04:40:53 AM
iba dito mga kamag anak siguro artista.. :-D
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Post by: Santo Muerte on April 17, 2008, 01:06:35 AM
o db, gaya ni ms gretchen b, nadinig na ba natin sya nagbanda or naging vocalist sa isang banda? hinde.  ayon sa circle, sold-out na daw ang CDs nya. :-)

ok lang yan.khit paano may sumusuporta pa rin sa industriya natin. :-)


Pati yung mga CD ni Kris Aquino naging Platinum na yata, at take note hindi siya kumanta ni isang nota sa CD na yun. Nag-compile lang ng collection ng mga love songs at nilagay sa CD, tapos pinaskilan lang ng mukha niya yung cover...ayun, sold out! GOD, I LOVE THE LOCAL RECORDING INDUSTRY!!!!
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Post by: SCREWER on April 17, 2008, 04:28:18 AM
napapamura ako topic na to.....@#$%^&&**@#@$#&$$&$^$^$^* :x
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Post by: toybitz on April 18, 2008, 02:01:50 AM
Pati yung mga CD ni Kris Aquino naging Platinum na yata, at take note hindi siya kumanta ni isang nota sa CD na yun. Nag-compile lang ng collection ng mga love songs at nilagay sa CD, tapos pinaskilan lang ng mukha niya yung cover...ayun, sold out! GOD, I LOVE THE LOCAL RECORDING INDUSTRY!!!!

tagadush!
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Post by: SCREWER on April 18, 2008, 06:34:11 AM
tagadush!
AAARRGGGHHH!!!...
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Post by: uninvit3d on April 21, 2008, 03:39:33 PM
AAARRGGGHHH!!!...

Yun lang...  :-o :-o
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Post by: moogerfooger on April 21, 2008, 08:30:35 PM
ano ba nauna?

yun gigs nila na puro cover o yun producer nilang nagproduce sa album? hehehe

eh bakit lahat ba ng hawak ng producer ng banda eh nabubuhay sa singles na puro cover songs? hehehehe hehehehe

kumbaga Ser eh...

nauna ba kape barako sa tindahan ng kape o sa klase ng halaman hehehe hehehe hehehe  ititimpla ba natin ng madaming gatas ang kape barako tulad ng mga nescafe at blend 45 kun ang kape ay kape barako? hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe


tama naman sabi mo ser,... ang sinasabi ko  e kaya may mga bandang gumagawa ng mga remake o revivals e dahil yon ay  gusto ng mga producers nila for marketing purposes o kya ay gusto ng label nila na iremake nila yung song.

wla ako argument sa style at tunog ng banda kahit pa noong panahon ng mga dinosaurs ay yon na ang tugtugan nila.

marami tyong banda sa ngayon na ang sumusulat ng songs ay mismong mga managers at producer  pa nila.


kung halimbawa nagkaron ka at nag-sign up ka sa isang recording company or label at pinakanta ka ng april boy ,,kakantahin mo ba?

yung iba jan ay wlang choice ser,,pumirma sila ng kontrata. :-D
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Post by: drummerboy827 on April 27, 2008, 10:04:34 AM
the only reason "it sells" is coz its the only thing rammed down people's throats so much that people have no choice but to like 'em... not just covers but backwards pop music in general.

if all the labels took risks and tried to elevate the minds of the masses, we could end up like japan or someday, the US, where diversity and open-mindedness cultivated markets for all kinds of art and music.

but no, the labels can't risk that. its still a business and they have families to feed. reality check for the idealistic.

Pinoy's cant think for themselves.
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Post by: moogerfooger on April 27, 2008, 02:34:45 PM
reality check... ganun n yta tlaga dito s atin.

kung anong umuso doon,,magiging ganon din dito

kung anong tunog doon gagawin din dito

kung may umuso cgurong music doon na tinawag nilang "kulangot"

sarap pakinggan dito:  "pre, kulangot ang tugtugan ng banda nmin " :-)
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Post by: obelix on May 05, 2008, 04:08:08 PM
Pinoy's cant think for themselves.

sir drummerboy... hindi ka ba Pilipino? just because ganun ka hindi ibig sabihin niyan eh lahat na ng Pilipino walang sariling pagiisip
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Post by: maxi_musikero on May 06, 2008, 07:50:33 PM
Pinoy's cant think for themselves.

what even prompted you to post this statement bro?
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Post by: gamelan on May 07, 2008, 10:35:14 PM
Pinoy's cant think for themselves.

personally, i hate generalizations..
there are millions of filipinos..
kilala mo cla lahat? :-)

no harm intended. :-D
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Post by: mOkz on May 07, 2008, 11:14:45 PM
personally, i hate generalizations..
there are millions of filipinos..
kilala mo cla lahat? :-)

no harm intended. :-D

ako kilala ko LAHAT haha jowk, alex kulet!  :-D
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Post by: aria on July 31, 2008, 10:26:12 PM
sina nina, kyla, rachel etc
hay
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Post by: Endshiftresign! on August 04, 2008, 09:46:26 AM
Di rin siguro natin sila masisisi.  :-)

Talaga namang magaganda ang mga lumang kanta.  :-)

totoo nga't mas magaganda ang mga kanta dati, IMHO, may it be from my parents' time or from my high school and college days. 

but that's why we've been stuck on revival mode ever since the mid-'90s.  because we pinoys are a nostalgic and romantic people, though kadalasan ay over naman sa pagiging nostalgic/romantic...

Pinoy's cant think for themselves.

a bit uncalled for coming from a fellow noypi (same with 99% or so of PM), medyo generalization nga yung pinost mo, IMHO.  but kudos for calling things as you see 'em. 

a better way of putting it would be that we pinoys need to be more proactive as music lovers and/or musicians - show more initiative to create your own rather than tap the audience's nostalgic nerve by doing yet another revival.
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Post by: aya_yuson on August 04, 2008, 09:54:40 AM
It's better to light a candle than curse the darkness, as the old saying goes.

Naysaying benefits no one.

We all know MYMP kinda, well... sucks. And most of us can do a better job. So let's all just do a better job.

Sayang ang bandwidth, eh.  :-)
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Post by: reycantong on August 06, 2008, 09:55:49 PM
sana, if a certain musician or artist will be releasing an album, original sana ang gawing carrier single. 
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Post by: qroon on September 02, 2008, 04:43:27 AM
Hindi lang dito sa Pilipinas may crappy songs/albums na nabebenta :) Hindi lang dito sa Pilipinas merong nagsasamantala sa hype/uso. Hindi lang dito sa Pilipinas may nagre-revive (or tribute).

Ang talagang nakaiinis ay yung 'Only in the Philippines' attitude ng marami kapag may pangit na bagay na nakita/narinig/nabasa tungkol sa Pilipinas :) Wala tayong monopoly ng tinatawag ng ilan greedy producers at easily swayed masses.

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I remember noong 90's nang naging masigla ang band scene. Andaming naging alternative/{insert genre here} artist. Yun ang mga naging mainstream. Maraming mga 'magagaling' ang lalong 'lumalim' ang taste just to differentiate themselves from the masses. Inakusahang baduy at sell-out ang mga sumikat na dating nasa 'underground'.

Minsan ko na ring inisip na walang choice ang masa kaya sumisikat ang tinawag ng ilan na baduy. Ngunit may pagpipilian ang masa, hindi lang minsan o makalawa na may mga artist na naglabas ng 'intellectual' na album. Ngunit mas gusto ng masa ang tinatawag na baduy ng ilan.

Bakit nga ba? Hindi kaya nakasasawa rin ang preachy/whiny style ng topics ng 'intellectual' artists? Hindi kaya ang purpose ng masa ay mag-enjoy at tumawa kaysa maging politically correct at intellectual? Sinubukan ng Eraserheads na iahon ang masa :)

pinilit kong iahon ka
ngunit ayaw mo namang sumama


Hindi [chewbacca] ang masa. Sa dami ng mga iniisip at problema, wala na sigurong panahon para sa malalim/makabuluhan/orihinal na kanta.

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And if we think that our preferences/music is better than what the masses/jologs/squatters enjoy, then show it! Why not organize free concerts/gigs for the masses and show 'em what you think is better :)

Peace!
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Post by: qroon on September 04, 2008, 04:26:49 AM
Posting from Google Chrome (OT).

Anyway, it seems that my reply is not reflected on the index. Bug on SMF?
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Post by: paulo_gee on September 05, 2008, 08:59:04 PM
covers are done everywhere..but originals should be the centerfold of every musician..you need to have a song that has YOU written all over it..but we should respect what other musicians bring to the table...peace and love :mrgreen:  rock and roll lang mga tsong :-D
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Post by: Musikerochan on September 11, 2008, 08:46:25 AM
i heard MYMP's newest single, Now. ok naman, catchy. for sure magiging hit to sa masa. though i dont dig revivals too much. for me it should be an original song should always be what you must write. personality/identity yun ng artist eh.
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Post by: Bel Sayson on November 06, 2008, 05:31:24 PM
covers are done everywhere..but originals should be the centerfold of every musician..you need to have a song that has YOU written all over it..  rock and roll lang mga tsong :-D

that is one of the reasons why 6Underground was created, to bring original works front and center. Let's support our "own troops".
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Post by: bakit? on November 07, 2008, 07:05:26 AM
that is one of the reasons why 6Underground was created, to bring original works front and center. Let's support our "own troops".

amen.
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Post by: mambo on December 07, 2008, 02:37:37 AM
same thing sa mga concert ng mga local singers natin, sila Sarah Geronimo, Pops, Rachel Ann. kapag nakapanood ka ng concert nila andaming revival at covers...

hindi ako boto dun...prove what is a real talent.
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Post by: Helmet on December 11, 2008, 04:48:31 PM
Probably, we also lacked the support that our fellow artists need. Kaya western songs ang kinakanta nila everytime they appear on a noon time show eh kasi western songs ang gusto nating marining.
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Post by: gamelan on January 30, 2009, 10:39:58 PM
magaling daw kasi mangaya ang mga pinoy...  :x

 :-(
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Post by: drumgear_tech on April 16, 2009, 09:26:01 PM
matagal na may mga nagreremake ng old songs di lang ngayon
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Post by: Calixtrus on April 18, 2009, 08:36:08 AM
as far as this thread goes...

i think it is unfair that the blame goes to MYMP. hehehe.
In fairness to them... way before they were able to grace the airwaves of your local music video channels,they were really known because of their cover songs / own rendition of some 80's songs,which evidently zoomed them up the charts...

my point? there are many factors. and i am sure we all know those things and again, it is not a sin to cover songs. it's been there and will be there until we count to the 11th hour of mankind.

Children of Bodom covers Oops i did it again by Britney Spears.  :lol:

although i do understand that it does suck that most of the songs you hear on local mainstream media are cover songs... thing is that there are many original songs that it is waiting to sweep the musical sense out of you. It does not need to be mainstream to be good. right?  :evil:

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Post by: bugoy on May 27, 2009, 10:47:38 PM
gusto lang nila siguro mabuhay  :)
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Post by: aya_yuson on May 28, 2009, 09:10:29 PM
Personally, what I object to are the flaws in MYMP's musicianship. The girl singer's intonation is often flawed. I remember hearing one of their songs over the radio and thinking to myself that 3 out of every 5 of her sung notes were either sharp or flat.

Andon na tayo na marami talagang pinoy na musiko ay tumutugtog ng covers.

The big difference is that most cover bands/showbands play covers well. They respect music enough to play/sing well.

I wish I could say the same for MYMP.
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Post by: jamming_papu on May 30, 2009, 03:28:26 AM
i like MYMP's first album. at that time, for me it sounds like a simple revolution. just plain acoustics instruments. at maraming ok na OrIgiNals  :-D :-D :-D

i personally bought a copy which di ko na alam kung nasan na ngayon. their next albums ... well, i kind to like it to at the beginning but i realize na
that was the time were they did a point na 'doing covers sells'. being the bussiness nature of the music industry, many tried to followed and the formula also works. it's so popular bands playing at bars copied that too in their setlist. and their it was. i don't have the specific term to describe it  :|

buti na lang dumating si Kitchie Nadal. :lol:
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Post by: killerbutete on May 31, 2009, 10:36:42 PM
crush ko si kitchie nadal  :-D
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Post by: drumgear_tech on June 01, 2009, 08:18:04 AM
...MYMP!

I know covers and remakes have long been born in the local music scene..side A and other bands..they make great covers and promote em as a carrier single. well at least, 10% or less of the time.  They launched onto the scene with original songs like hold on...etc.

MYMP, is the most popular, biggest selling duo/band to promote other artists songs...mostly from foreign acts.

a lot have followed their footsteps..Bamboo, Spongecola, Martin Nievera, Christian Bautista....

whatever happened to Pinoy creativity? and friggin' hard work??

sir toybitz ask ko lang... why do we need to blame others?
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Post by: killerbutete on July 07, 2009, 10:39:28 AM
maganda sa tenga eh.....la tayong magagawa kung trip ng pinoy  :mrgreen:
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Post by: kawal on August 24, 2009, 08:49:29 PM
knock-knock
who's there
"kamuning"
"kamuning" who?

kamuning get me... get me... get me... baby im yours... kamuning get me...
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Post by: toybitz on October 07, 2009, 03:56:19 PM
sir toybitz ask ko lang... why do we need to blame others?

there is no "need".

I just happen to blame because at the time I made this thread..all I hear are covers, covers, covers.  Some songs aren't even laos yet, pero may cover na.

Anyways.  I moved on, and accepted that this is also a part of our culture.
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Post by: unnailed on October 07, 2009, 04:10:51 PM
mas maganda yung original, para mag grow naman ang music industries dito s phil. :-)
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Post by: rakenrol on April 18, 2010, 01:27:32 PM
music isn't just their passion, but it is their way of living. it is easier to cover a song than to make originals. if you want to be famous and gain profit in an instant, do some covers. if you want to be famous, gain profit and be remembered, make an original. medyo sugal nga lang..  :mrgreen:
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Post by: kawal on April 18, 2010, 03:28:04 PM
apparently, people came up with this thing called "music business", out of music.  :-D
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Post by: durianjuice on April 19, 2010, 07:46:09 AM
its better than making a tagalog version of "umbrella" and getting famous over it....  :lol:
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Post by: jem_adriano on April 20, 2010, 06:24:59 PM
obviously from what ive read in this thread

tinanggap na talaga natin ang revivals as a culture... others are like..."so what yun ang gusto ng masa ehh"

if these keeps up,the industry will surely sink...

well, korea seems to be doing a much better job kahit corny ang tingin ng iba sa music nila...
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Post by: charlesdavidlim on May 07, 2010, 12:01:40 PM
...MYMP!

I know covers and remakes have long been born in the local music scene..side A and other bands..they make great covers and promote em as a carrier single. well at least, 10% or less of the time.  They launched onto the scene with original songs like hold on...etc.

MYMP, is the most popular, biggest selling duo/band to promote other artists songs...mostly from foreign acts.

a lot have followed their footsteps..Bamboo, Spongecola, Martin Nievera, Christian Bautista....

whatever happened to Pinoy creativity? and friggin' hard work??

haay. kailangan kasi ng pera eh.  :cry:
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Post by: neicon27 on July 09, 2010, 06:01:11 PM
Probably, we also lacked the support that our fellow artists need. Kaya western songs ang kinakanta nila everytime they appear on a noon time show eh kasi western songs ang gusto nating marining.

either that or talagang wala na yung magagaling na composer ngayon. di tulad ng dati.
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Post by: aya_yuson on July 10, 2010, 10:37:43 AM
either that or talagang wala na yung magagaling na composer ngayon. di tulad ng dati.

Totally, unarguably, indubitably, absolutely untrue!

Jay Durias, Gary Granada, Joey Ayala, Cynthia Ayala Alexander, Noel Mendez, Freestyle, Totop Suzara...

Need I continue?
 
Napakaraming Pinoy na musiko't kompositor ang nagsusulat ng napakaraming mga kantang magaganda. Bumobobo lang ang mga bossing at dumarami ang mga walang tiwala sa Musika't nananalig lang sa salapi.
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Post by: trojanvundo on July 12, 2010, 06:57:06 AM
kung pipiratahin lang naman e sayang sa pawis at dugo
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Post by: william251082 on July 13, 2010, 05:13:22 PM
the only reason "it sells" is coz its the only thing rammed down people's throats so much that people have no choice but to like 'em... not just covers but backwards pop music in general.

if all the labels took risks and tried to elevate the minds of the masses, we could end up like japan or someday, the US, where diversity and open-mindedness cultivated markets for all kinds of art and music.

but no, the labels can't risk that. its still a business and they have families to feed. reality check for the idealistic.
Ang say ko lang dyan sa mga labels ay kung gusto may paraan, kung ayaw may dahilan. In other words, hindi sila interested sa creativity.
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Post by: markezekiel on July 26, 2010, 11:25:21 PM
pera pera lang yan
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Post by: chiqgarcia on July 27, 2010, 12:43:50 AM
there is a song where the male member sang... I cant stand it.. the notes are flying all over.. I just hoped this chance was given to more talented artists..

LIVE ba ito? kase meron ako narinig na either nakalimutan yung lyrics or mispronunciation (supposedly 'inside out' pero ang nabigkas 'insoud out'). parang unforgivable kung pwedeng mag-take-2 (studio) pero parang unforgivable pa rin kung LIVE kase trabaho mo yun.
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Post by: dreamhaus09 on August 20, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
Kung sinusuportahan natin yung magagaling na banda edi sana hindi nangyayari yung ganito ngayon. daming magagaling jan lalo na sa indie scene. suporta lang kailangan.  :|
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Post by: trxter41 on November 18, 2010, 02:26:24 AM
i blame it on the crabs. because we are crabs. little brown crabs.
kahit dito sa forum nagkalat ang mga crabs.
k-pop and justin bieber is an evidence that we dont love ourselves.
ang hilig ng mga tao dito sa forum basagin yung mga banda tulad ng cueshe, spongecola, 6cyclemind.
why not just give positive feedback? reach out to the band and ask them to create better music.
let them know what you think. kahit nga dito na lang eh. siguro nandito rin sa philmusic mga members ng cueshe.
imagine nasa NBA game ka: miami heat vs boston celtics. sumisigaw ka ng "Go Celtics!" pero yung suot mo bagong jersey ni lebron.
fail yun diba?
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Post by: trxter41 on November 18, 2010, 02:30:33 AM
hay... kakain na lang nga ako ng butter coconut. sarap!
tingnan niyo picture ko o.. pusa na ko. yehey! hindi na ko si kurt cobain.
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Post by: xelalien on January 03, 2011, 06:46:05 PM
covers?

on the other hand, namamayagpag naman yung mga kanta ni Willie sa masa.... :D
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Post by: Legolas on July 15, 2011, 05:07:23 PM

M - making
Y - yucky
M - music
P - professionally

 :-D
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Post by: IncX on July 15, 2011, 05:35:38 PM
it's a sad fact that most of our "original compositions" suck.

i have listened to countless radio programs over the years where they featured "originals" and "homegrown talent" and yep, the songs are so bad or devoid of hook you wonder why they devote an hour or two to them.

the only time i noticed a band's songs was like 2001 and there was this group called "spongecola" playing college alternative sounding stuff... and well, i guess everyone knows them now.

and oh, PGT Finalists Skeights also have some interesting songs. i think X2M (yes, its matanglawin's band) has good pop stuff that i can dig too.

majority of the originals though, are just meh. give me MYMP over them.
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Post by: samuelfianza on July 15, 2011, 11:06:51 PM
buti yung album ni kris aquino hindi sumisikat :lol:

(di ko alam kung si kris talaga yun)
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Post by: markezekiel on December 31, 2011, 01:09:20 PM
...MYMP!

I know covers and remakes have long been born in the local music scene..side A and other bands..they make great covers and promote em as a carrier single. well at least, 10% or less of the time.  They launched onto the scene with original songs like hold on...etc.

MYMP, is the most popular, biggest selling duo/band to promote other artists songs...mostly from foreign acts.

a lot have followed their footsteps..Bamboo, Spongecola, Martin Nievera, Christian Bautista....

whatever happened to Pinoy creativity? and friggin' hard work??
so true. Haaay.

Yosha pa din ako.
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Post by: sonikyut on December 31, 2011, 03:12:01 PM
buti yung album ni kris aquino hindi sumisikat :lol:

(di ko alam kung si kris talaga yun)

parang nagka-award pa ata yun sa ASAP noon e  :lol:..nagka-album pala yun
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Post by: Mr.Yos0 on January 03, 2012, 12:54:59 AM
at least anjan pa rin si lito camo.  :-D
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Post by: gandydancer123 on January 03, 2012, 01:14:58 AM
GUYS DID YOU KNOW NA MAY WORLD TOUR THIS YEAR SI...


ANNE CURTIS!!!!!


WAAAAAHHHH!!!!!

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Post by: poprox on January 31, 2012, 01:58:29 PM
While driving, wife turned on the radio, anne curtis's song was played.

I had to endure listening to it.
Hindi ba bad word ang putris?

Putris talaga. Pero original niya yata yung kanta.

Dahil ba si anne curtis siya kaya they let her get away with it.
Pano kung rock band ang may putris sa kanta nila, malamang bleep na iyon.

Naalala ko pa nung kasikatan ng pu3ska, hirap na hirap ang mga dj ipronounce on air ang pangalan nila.
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Post by: trxter41 on February 01, 2012, 07:19:04 AM
If me and anne curtis are alone in a room, i will make her say putris will doing "it"   :drool:
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Post by: poprox on February 01, 2012, 12:21:32 PM
Hehehe!

Iba naman yun. Dirty talk. I like.
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Post by: matanglawin on February 02, 2012, 07:32:49 AM
I'll wear earplugs if I have to.  I just wanna look at Anne.

(http://www.chikkadora.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/anne-curtis-450x300.JPG)
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Post by: lowtuneduser on February 29, 2012, 06:18:52 PM
yan ang panget sa bansa naten,ang importante na lang talaga ay PERA. kahit nadudungisan na industriya naten. Meron pa artista hindi naman kilala sa pagiging singer magugulat ka may album na. Manuod ka lang ng Myx eh sobrang nakakapanindig balahibo. Wala na yung mga quality ng kanta hindi tulad kahit man lang sa 90's. mga artist ngayon puro gimik para mapansin. sad to say kahit gano ka pa kagaling o kalalim etc pag dating sa musika talo ka pa din ni Anne Curtis. yan ang Pilipinas.
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Post by: mikki_blinkme on March 08, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
bakit ba naghahanap tayo ng lalim/tino sa pop scene/mainstream music?  :-D ganyan naman talaga dyan noon pa a. maghanap ng alternatibo. kung ayaw natin sa isang performer/entertainer/artist kuno e bakit big deal satin kung magcoconcert ng bongga? ayaw nga natin pupunahin pa  :lol:  wala naman silang ginagawang masama. ang sisihin natin yung mga executive producers. alam naman nating business lahat yan e paapekto naman tayo. mga parekoy 2012 na at internet era na may alternatibong media na tayo.  :-P blame game my @$$!!!

wag makinig/manood kung alam nating maiinis lang tayo.  orayt mga kapatid?!  :razz:
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Post by: samuelfianza on March 09, 2012, 03:05:24 PM
Tama kung hindi natin trip pwedeng mag hanap ng iba.

pero sa tingin ko nakakaapekto sa pagiisip ng tao ang mainstream music kaya hindi maiiwasang magreklamo sa mga crap entertainers na yan hehe.

at parang napansin ko wala nang singing/music competition sa tv. (meron pa ba?)