Home Recording (Bedroom Players)

[JunIbasco]

I have a question tho, paano bubuhayin ang final mix?

i compared my mixdown to a friends version. this friend of mine works in a real studio talaga. we both used Logic to mix it, pero yung sa kanya "buhay na buhay." meaning, litaw lahat ng instruments at voice, pero di nagpepeak


teach me masterzzz </3

Sa bandang huli siguro ipapakita dito kung paano:

Di ko pa natatapos pero so far, very informative, lalo na sakin na wala masyadong experience.

[sonicassault]

I have a question tho, paano bubuhayin ang final mix?

i compared my mixdown to a friends version. this friend of mine works in a real studio talaga. we both used Logic to mix it, pero yung sa kanya "buhay na buhay." meaning, litaw lahat ng instruments at voice, pero di nagpepeak


teach me masterzzz </3

Ito yung part na may "magic" eh  Ang sabi naman sakin compressor/limiter pero di naman ako marunong gumamit nung mga multi-band stuff (pano nga ba?). Pag yung straightforward compressor limiter nagpupump na yung track 

[j.nikko3123]

There's this little adage between engineers,"what comes in the record goes out the record".

I guess it has something to do with the recording process itself, some quality hardware will definitely make a ton of difference. I know its the dawn of the DIY recordings but still there is this air of magic inside a real studio that breaths life to records.

Here's some vid from Pete Thorn(I'm a sucker for his tone) with some recording tips for guitarist.

[Ralph_Petrucci]

There's this little adage between engineers,"what comes in the record goes out the record".

I guess it has something to do with the recording process itself, some quality hardware will definitely make a ton of difference. I know its the dawn of the DIY recordings but still there is this air of magic inside a real studio that breaths life to records.

Here's some vid from Pete Thorn(I'm a sucker for his tone) with some recording tips for guitarist.

hindi din sa equipment paps eh. yung studio na pinagrerecordan namin, same lang halos ng gamit ko. pero iba talaga pag sa kanila minix </3

[j.nikko3123]

hindi din sa equipment paps eh. yung studio na pinagrerecordan namin, same lang halos ng gamit ko. pero iba talaga pag sa kanila minix </3

Oh, Now I guess ninja moves lang talaga sila pag dating sa mixing,trade secrets.

[sonicassault]

hindi din sa equipment paps eh. yung studio na pinagrerecordan namin, same lang halos ng gamit ko. pero iba talaga pag sa kanila minix </3

Oh, Now I guess ninja moves lang talaga sila pag dating sa mixing,trade secrets.

mala-Angee Rozul trade "secret" na siguro yun. Yun na yung sound nung engineer. Tingin ka sa ilalim ng desk baka yung buong signal path dumadaan sa BBE Sonic Maximizer 
BTW dinaan ko yung mga records nya sa Grado, ang ganda ng tunog. Yung mga mix nya namimili ng speakers.

[Boxedking]

Naisip ko lang, baka pag sila na lang yun nasa studio biglang bumubukas yun sahig tapos lalabas yun talagang recording/mixing consoles nila. 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

mala-Angee Rozul trade "secret" na siguro yun. Yun na yung sound nung engineer. Tingin ka sa ilalim ng desk baka yung buong signal path dumadaan sa BBE Sonic Maximizer 
BTW dinaan ko yung mga records nya sa Grado, ang ganda ng tunog. Yung mga mix nya namimili ng speakers.

IMHOAP, hindi pristine mag mix si angee rozul. siya yung gumawa ng the apparition na album ng dub, sobrang dein ko gusto yung tunog.


trade secret talaga tancha ko kasi parehas kaming naka AT2020 eh. mas maganda pa reverb VST ko (TC Electronic) pero mas solid parin siya mag mix sakin

@BoxedKing

nangttrip lang eh no =)) para kunwari tone is in the engineer, pero nasa equipment pala =))

[sonicassault]

IMHOAP, hindi pristine mag mix si angee rozul. siya yung gumawa ng the apparition na album ng dub, sobrang dein ko gusto yung tunog.


trade secret talaga tancha ko kasi parehas kaming naka AT2020 eh. mas maganda pa reverb VST ko (TC Electronic) pero mas solid parin siya mag mix sakin

@BoxedKing

nangttrip lang eh no =)) para kunwari tone is in the engineer, pero nasa equipment pala =))

hindi nga, and it took a 4k worth pair of cans to bring out the nuances of the record, at feeling ko kung idaan mo sa monitors mo papangit din

Baka yung housing AT2020 tapos naka Neumann pala 

magkano yung VST mo? Nalilimit ako dun sa built-in convolution reverb sa REAPER. Masyado na colored yung impulses para sa guitar. Pero sobrang swak sa drums!

Kung sino man yung nagsuggest ng Hydrogen, idaan nyo sa small room impulse reverb, tapos sa ibang reverb, mas tunog studio kaysa drum machine. 

[Ralph_Petrucci]

hindi nga, and it took a 4k worth pair of cans to bring out the nuances of the record, at feeling ko kung idaan mo sa monitors mo papangit din

Baka yung housing AT2020 tapos naka Neumann pala 

magkano yung VST mo? Nalilimit ako dun sa built-in convolution reverb sa REAPER. Masyado na colored yung impulses para sa guitar. Pero sobrang swak sa drums!

Kung sino man yung nagsuggest ng Hydrogen, idaan nyo sa small room impulse reverb, tapos sa ibang reverb, mas tunog studio kaysa drum machine. 

supposedly $20.00  pero i got it free hahahaha promo ni tc nung time na yun.

yun pa, yung demo tracks ng banda namin, naka neumann na mic, mas maganda parin mix nung studio na naka at2020 zzzzzzzz. siguro time spent and techniques with the proper gear. or kabisado lang talga nung studio na yung si at2020. hahaha

[sonicassault]

supposedly $20.00  pero i got it free hahahaha promo ni tc nung time na yun.

yun pa, yung demo tracks ng banda namin, naka neumann na mic, mas maganda parin mix nung studio na naka at2020 zzzzzzzz. siguro time spent and techniques with the proper gear. or kabisado lang talga nung studio na yung si at2020. hahaha

mura na for a nice reverb! anong studio ba yan, baka magpa mix ako )

[Ralph_Petrucci]

mura na for a nice reverb! anong studio ba yan, baka magpa mix ako )

Sonicstate Audio Studio, mandaluyong

[sonicassault]

BTT: iso cabs, yay or nay?

[Ralph_Petrucci]

BTT: iso cabs, yay or nay?

yay. especially after I heard the cab clone and the torpedo cab.

[hevymet]

BTT: iso cabs, yay or nay?

i would want to try a proper one...gumawa ako ng DIY iso cab dati...di ko nagustuhan. 

[sonicassault]

i would want to try a proper one...gumawa ako ng DIY iso cab dati...di ko nagustuhan. 

I guess it has its place, especially for home recording, but I imagine di ba parang kulang sa "air"?

[Ralph_Petrucci]

I guess it has its place, especially for home recording, but I imagine di ba parang kulang sa "air"?

no not really. yun nga yung point ng iso cab eh. kasi you want the natural sounding speaker at low volumes.

[Stoop]

Questions lang regarding sa recording.

Gusto ko kasi sana magtry na gamitin both channels ng 2i4 at the same time to record a mic'ed amp. Isang dynamic upfront at isang condenser as a room mic.

Knowing na kelangan ng phantom power nun condenser, pwede ko padin ba isabay yun dynamic mic na nakasaksak ng hindi nagaalala na baka mamaya magshort yun circuit ng dynamic or nun interface unit?

Pasensya na diko kasi alam paano gagawin dun, at ayoko subukan ng walang assurance kasi pinaghatihatian namin yun ng mga bandmates ko at sayang naman kung masisira lang.

Thanks in advance guys!!

[r_chino18]

Questions lang regarding sa recording.

Gusto ko kasi sana magtry na gamitin both channels ng 2i4 at the same time to record a mic'ed amp. Isang dynamic upfront at isang condenser as a room mic.

Knowing na kelangan ng phantom power nun condenser, pwede ko padin ba isabay yun dynamic mic na nakasaksak ng hindi nagaalala na baka mamaya magshort yun circuit ng dynamic or nun interface unit?

Pasensya na diko kasi alam paano gagawin dun, at ayoko subukan ng walang assurance kasi pinaghatihatian namin yun ng mga bandmates ko at sayang naman kung masisira lang.

Thanks in advance guys!!

Yes! Pwede.

Kung same lang ang platform ng Scarlett 2i4 at 2i2 (I have the 2i2), ganito pwede mong gawin.. Use an XLR cable for your condenser mic, then yuse a 1/4" PL cable for your dynamic mic. The Scarlett only sends the phantom power via XLR, not via 1/4"..

Natry ko na yan dati eh.. Nagtataka ako bakit laging may kakaibang noise pag nagrerecord ako ng sabay yung dynamic at condenser. Every few seconds merong noise na parang ginugusot na papel. Later on, I found out na dahil pala yung dynamic mic ko ay connected sa 2i2 via XLR cable.. Hehe.. Dapat pala 1/4" lang sa kanya kung gagamitin ko yung phantom power.

[Stoop]

Okay na pala mga sir.
Tumingin ako ng mga articles online, at ang common consensus eh okay lang daw magsaksak ng dynamic kahit naka-on yun phantom power so good to go pala kami.

Excited na ako uli magrecord!
Mixing sa tingin ko ang kakain ng oras kung sakali.
Naiisip namin yun mga demos namin gagawin namin sa bahay tapos yun mismong EP kung kaya this year eh sana sa decent recording studio. Tatanong ko yun Sonicstate Audio Studio dahil yun ang pinakamalapit sa amin.

[Stoop]

Yes! Pwede.

Kung same lang ang platform ng Scarlett 2i4 at 2i2 (I have the 2i2), ganito pwede mong gawin.. Use an XLR cable for your condenser mic, then yuse a 1/4" PL cable for your dynamic mic. The Scarlett only sends the phantom power via XLR, not via 1/4"..

Natry ko na yan dati eh.. Nagtataka ako bakit laging may kakaibang noise pag nagrerecord ako ng sabay yung dynamic at condenser. Every few seconds merong noise na parang ginugusot na papel. Later on, I found out na dahil pala yung dynamic mic ko ay connected sa 2i2 via XLR cable.. Hehe.. Dapat pala 1/4" lang sa kanya kung gagamitin ko yung phantom power.

Salamat sir!

Ayus!! Yun pala ang diko naresearch. Yun 1/4" TRS cable. Pahabol nalang ulit sir, yun 1/4" cable na yan pwede din ba sya gamitin connector sa monitor?
Kasi parang sa back panel nun 2i4 meron balanced at unbalanced type of output channels, diko lang alam kung anong klaseng cable gagamitin para sa both balanced and unbalanced.
Parang yun sa unbalanced, yun ginagamit na cable namin para sa stero system na luma at mga dvd players or pang-connect dati sa mga Playstation 1s.

[KennyKen]

Here's my Orig. Composition, in the veins of Vinnie Moore, George Lynch, Satriani  Ek Ek  ....Any tips kung paano pagandahin ang recording? Appreciate your critiques guys, sensya na galing ako sa ''unmelodic'' background, lumaki kasi ako kakatugtog ng Cannibal Corpse at Slayer haha...I'm very new to this genre, appreciate your tips mga masters THANKS

Guitar Rig 5
Presonus Studio One
Lexicon Alpha


''Direct-Listen'' MEDIAFIRE LINK : http://www.mediafire.com/listen/aczzyq6ox9tzltz/Mixdown_1.mp3

[r_chino18]

Salamat sir!

Ayus!! Yun pala ang diko naresearch. Yun 1/4" TRS cable. Pahabol nalang ulit sir, yun 1/4" cable na yan pwede din ba sya gamitin connector sa monitor?
Kasi parang sa back panel nun 2i4 meron balanced at unbalanced type of output channels, diko lang alam kung anong klaseng cable gagamitin para sa both balanced and unbalanced.
Parang yun sa unbalanced, yun ginagamit na cable namin para sa stero system na luma at mga dvd players or pang-connect dati sa mga Playstation 1s.

For mic cable, 1/4" na mono will do. Kahit hindi TRS. Kalimitan naman mono ang mga mic cable for dynamic mics eh.

Regarding monitors, nagbasa rin ako tungkol jan dati.. Ok lang yung balanced (XLR) kasi di siya affected kahit mahaba ang cable mo.. On my end, di naman sobrang layo ng monitors ko from the Scarlett 2i2 kaya ang gamit ko ay instrument cable with 1/4" mono jacks lang din.
Bumili lang ako ng 20ft Samson Audio Tourtek cable tapos hinati ko sa gitna at sinolderan ng plugs yung magkabilang dulo. Kaya merona kong dalawang tig 10ft na cable from my 2i2 papunta sa monitors.

[KennyKen]

My other Composition, Inspired by Gary Moore and Vitto Bratta...Total impromptu 

Recorded using my Samsung Phone (Dinig pa kalansing ng strings)
EZ Drummer
Guitar Rig 5

''Direct-Listen'' MEDIAFIRE LINK : http://www.mediafire.com/watch/r171rvomjj2znqr/Voice_009_002.m4a

[Boxedking]

Here's my Orig. Composition, in the veins of Vinnie Moore, George Lynch, Satriani  Ek Ek  ....Any tips kung paano pagandahin ang recording? Appreciate your critiques guys, sensya na galing ako sa ''unmelodic'' background, lumaki kasi ako kakatugtog ng Cannibal Corpse at Slayer haha...I'm very new to this genre, appreciate your tips mga masters THANKS

Guitar Rig 5
Presonus Studio One
Lexicon Alpha


''Direct-Listen'' MEDIAFIRE LINK : http://www.mediafire.com/listen/aczzyq6ox9tzltz/Mixdown_1.mp3

Try panning your rhythm tracks, one to the left and the other to the right. Track them separately. That way, you'll have space for your lead guitars. It'll also add depth and dimension to your mix.